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chris365: mr man drop this your stup1d question. even the world could not get an accurate combat kills after the war cos it's not always easy to get such figures from especially from a civil war of that magnitude.

casualties will have to be military and civlian combined. of course you should know that yourself since you claim to be knowledgeable in military matters. dumbo

now show proof that white british commanded Nigerian army during the war since you feel like asking questions.

The proof is the fact that nigeria was a colnial army and colnial armies where led by britsh officers. This is a fact live with it.

chris365: cool the hot fumes boy

so in other word, you just called your president a liar, deceitful and ignorant. keep up the good work.

By defonstion that is what poltstions are. You don't get that much power by not back stabing, liaying and only focusing on geting the power (ignorance).

agaugust: 50 nigerian air force Alpha jets, MBB-339 jets, L-29 Jets, and F-7 jets are flying overhead to carpet bomb and sink a south african navy Valour frigate warship with 250 cluster bombs while the 50 jets fly at 13km above sea level. the south african valour frigates fires 16 Umkhonto anti-aircraft missiles that have range of 15km but the missiles were NOT able to harm any of the nigerian jets when fired...why ?

thats a challenge above, solve the riddle now

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Because it is a figmant of your imgnastion.

And cluster bombs? Ok sure if you want a soft kill they could maybe do the trick.

chris365: where's proof of your above claim please

http://m.voanews.com/a/159154.html

Confirm you west africa

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/01/28/the-economics-of-extinction-africa-s-elephants-and-rhinos-in-danger.html

" Although Nigeria has only 100 wild elephants of its own, it has become the continent’s largest center for retail ivory, according to field studies by the Kenya-based wildlife-trade authority Esmond Bradley Martin, who estimates that 98 percent of the buyers are Chinese. In the past decade the number of Chinese living and working in Nigeria’s largest city, Lagos, has soared—and in the city’s Lekki market, he found a vast assortment of carved ivory goods at only a fraction of the prices they would fetch in China. Chopsticks that would cost $455 in Guangzhou were a steal in Lagos at $63. An ivory necklace that might go for nearly $600 in China was priced at $57.

The toll from such baubles and trinkets adds up to a bloodbath. During his study of the Lekki market, Bradley Martin counted a total of 14,000 ivory items, all from elephants freshly killed in neighboring Benin, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Democratic Republic of the Congo, and as far away as Kenya and Tanzania."

agaugust: the bullets that killed thousands of Japanese soldiers were fired from the rifles in the hands of nigerian soldiers in the Burma jungle....or you mean 100 british officers were personally pulling rifle triggers by holding the hands and fingers of 50,000 nigerian soldiers in the battlefield ? fool

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They lead the nigerian solders and provided the planes and thuse they helped you. You asked the qustion I gave the anserw. Will you anserw the qustion I asked.

chris365: o common .. don't tell me you didn't read the article. hate the game, not the player.. i didn't write the article, am only using it as my proof that those special forces where brought in to help your dead brain army fight ordinary poachers.

They never even met one another mr fool. The army is not on privat game parks nor are san park rangers.

agaugust: please tell me where was the british help for nigerian army's about 50,000 soldiers who killed thousands of Japanese army men in Burma jungle battles of world war II

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Your officers were britsh, your gear was supplied by the britsh, they provided air support and there where a number of brith juggel war fare units causing mayem and destrucstion.

Now anserw my qustion.

agaugust: same way Nigerian F-7 jet is better than the air forces of 40 other african countries

can we also begin to compare Nigeria with Togo republic and praise ourselves too ?

Let's put it this way. If any country looses 600 rhinos that would ruin there rhino populastion. 600 did not even creat a poplastion decrease. There are still more rhinos in 2013 than there was in 2012.

agaugust: nigeria is not a natural Rhino habitat and never was, we hardly ever had them live in our hot climate....average temprature 35 degrees annually.

nigeria has more of two horned mammals, not single horned animals, dude !

please dont join nigeria's name with your south african failure....we rank above your bald heads

This is factualy wrong both rhino and elphant where abadant in nigeria. Has of now there are no rhinos and about 100 elphants.

Kruger gets far hotb than 35 degres by the way. Even cape town can hit the 40 degre mark.

agaugust: ....in world war II, 70 years ago ancient sea combat, and with american/british help too

please talk modern war of jets flying...at least a MiG-15 up to MiG-29 Jets.

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Please tell, where was the amrican and britsh help in the simking of u boats by SAN

agaugust: [size=16pt]thank you for confirming today that south africa has never won any war in its history [/size]

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I don't think any body said we did. We won the milltary side of things but polticaly it ended in a draw. And poltice trumps miltary. Same for america in vetnam where miltarly america was winning but polticaly they lost.

agaugust: NO submarine war has ever been fought in all African history...fool, real fool

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This is incorrect. SAN condacted a number of covert missions accross africa launched from submariens.

chris365: fact still remains that the G6 didn't help you win the war. so you can stop posting this info unless it's about how you won a war with it.

The war ended with a peace treaty in witch both SA and Cuba would withdraw. By the end of the war there wher 140 000 SADF solders in nambia to force home the point. In a sence it ended in a draw for cuba and SA since both sides agreed to leave.

Though when it comes to battel, sa never lost a battel in angola.

agaugust: [size=16pt]dont repeat that your useless post again, Cuba defeated South africa in battle. Fact [/size]

Should I post the vidoe showing the results. Any case the whole point of the SA oprastion was not to capture the city. But to stope a cuban angolan attack. Somthing that was so succfully achieved that the enemy was forced right back to there staging area.

agaugust: your side shelled Goma city and killed innocent people. goes into history. i know south african soldiers will not be able to shoot straight at a target except in @THIZA's nice photos.

was it your 70km long range G6 artillery you used to kill innocent peoples's children sleeping in their bedrooms ?

rainbow nation has exported civilian murder to Congo DRC, new addition to the civilian R.ape they exported there before

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We never shelled goma. Goma is were the SADC Arty is located. We shelled from goma. And it tanzian arty and SA mortas the first report got it confused. Probaly because SA solder are on the fron line and probaly called it in.

collynzo2: Some facts about South Africa:

South Africa is the drug capital of the world.
South Africa is the rapè capital of the world.
South Africa is the armed robbery capital of the world.
South Africa is the murder capital of the world.
South Africa is the HIV/AIDS capital of the world.
South Africa is the burglary capital of the world.

Can you post proof of all of those facts please.

Drug capital? I don't think we ever held that tital

Rape captal? For a country at peace. But most african countries are far higher.

Armend robbery capital? Proof please

Murder capital? In the mid 1990s maybe but percapita central and south american countries top SA.

There are a few countries with a far higher percapita prevlance rate

Robbery cappital? Proof please

agaugust: this is your post on page 326 at 5:38am June 12, 2013.



i said south africa has no satellite as at this year 2013, you were twisting the story and lying, why did you not say yes Augustine you are right ? where is your moral uprightness, honesty, and integrity ? you threw away all that just because you want to win an argument on nairaland ?

why were you deliberately mis-informing people when you know the truth ? why ?

i will never trust any south african again in my life....white, black, or coloured !

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Because that link clearly showed SA was still taking pics. Did I say our satlight was not damged? No I just point out we still have the abliety to take pics.

agaugust: you say me i dont think ? you must be c.raaaaazy, see your foolishness below, nigerian army has modern APR -40 shown on SIPRI, and you tell me its not on SIPRI, you are a big time liar...



Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


Italy
R: Nigeria 13 Palmaria 155mm Self-propelled gun 1990 1992-1994 13
(11) Palmaria 155mm Self-propelled gun (1999) 2001-2007 11 $31 m deal (part of $67 m deal); delivery delayed for financial reasons
(18) Model-56 105mm Towed gun (2002) 2003 18

Romania
R: Nigeria (11) APR-40 122mm Self-propelled MRL (1991) 1991-1992 (11)
(4) M-82 130mm Towed gun 1991 1992 4 Ex-Romanian


source : http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php

you see it in bold fonts above, now you see why i always call you the master of mis-information deceiving innocent people on this forum ?

i keep hanging your south african navy uniform on my mango tree, even after i quit this forum. fact !

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I stand corrected SIRP does say APR40. Yet nigeria does not have them. Beagel blog has a nice right up and list of nigerian arty.

agaugust: you are the one who failed comprehension in school, read the BBC news report below...

"UN troops in the Democratic Republic of Congo have launched an offensive, shelling positions held by rebels near the eastern city of Goma."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23816186

it was your south african army/UN multinational force that shelled Goma city and killed innocent people you fool !

now lets see how south african army will fight war in a city against rebels and innocent civilians will not die in the war zone, you south african mofos have been blaming nigerian army for civilian deaths in boko haram war zones of bama and baga, now its your turn to shell civilians with artillery guns....foolish people of a foolish south african sh..i..t hole !

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You with out a doubt you faild comprension.

M23 shelled goma and killed civlians, so the FIB return fire on knowen M23 locastion. No FIB shelling hit populated areas.

agaugust: south african army is now part of a UN force that kills innocent civilians.

i am waiting for the south africans to post more about nigerian army anti-boko haram operations and civilain deaths in baga and bama towns.

now we are seeing the south african army's sh..i..t hole

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Did you fail comprension or somthing? The UN did not kill civlians. M23 shelled goma so the FIB responded and knoncked out a tank and som other stuff. Aka we killed the guys that just killed the civlians.

agaugust: SIPRI has zero record of APR-21 for nigeria, open your eyes when you read, only APR-40 is posted on SIPRI, but wikipedia reported both nigerian APR-21 and APR-40, i have proved my point that SIPRI is not master of all military information. fact !

copy and paste the IISS and JANES sources if you have seen it, stop posting things with no source prove your claims, i have complained about that enough. dont feed our minds with false stories.

Nigeria does not have APR 40 and nore does SRIP menstion them. Wikpead menstion them but there is no source. Even beagel blog does not mension APR40s.

Both are better than wikepdia. Hell most of the info in the nigerian milltary wikpeadia page uses the 2007 ISS info very much out dated don't you think.

agaugust: dont mind that @saengine buffoon, maybe his grandmother has witchcraft powers to wipe off the memory of other countries' military men so that they will forget how to fire their weapons when fighting south africa.

anyway, that soweto grandma's witchcraft failed to work on Seleka rebels, their AK-47 did not miss target..juju pass juju

https://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Everyone%20Else/images-17/central-african-republic-seleka-rebels-advance.jpg

15 deaths. Over 200 did not get hit. Or the body armour stoped the built.

agaugust: even the poorest countries of the world pay other rich countries to use their satellites, that does not make it their own and that does not make them put 100 military officers into a foreign country's satellite station in time of war the way nigeria is doing.

you are just a big bag of Afrikaner fraudulence and dishonesty.

i hope you dont graduate from lying to stealing in future.

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They pay to get picters. Somthing I caan do these days with a laptop. SA has the abliety to recive the data dircect.

agaugust: SIPRI does not show all nigerian weapons in detail and even miss out many completely.

it shows Otomat was deleivered in two batches, one batch after Mk 1 was in market, and second batch after MK 2 was in market.

APR-21 mobile rocket launchers of nigerian army are missing on SIPRI and its on wikipedia and army recognition websites.

almost 300 nigerian navy modern in-shore fast attack and assault vessels of years 2008 to 2012 are missing on SIPRI database.

SBAT-70 towed rocket artillery of nigerian army is also missing on SIPRI.

25 of the 49 nigerian army palmaria mobile artillery armoured vehicles are missing on SIPRI, both beegeagle and myself told them to correct it they did not do so.

Type 90 anti-aircraft artillery of nigerian army is totally missing on SIPRI arms sales log....and many other weapons missing.

SIPRI org is not master of all knowlegde, they miss out things you find on Wikipedia.

go sit down men !

It shows 2 batches both mk1 so unless there was a 3rd batch I don't see it.

Niether sight is a source mearly a relay for a source. And I have seen many mistakes in army reconisnstion. By the way ISS showed the APR21 and SIRP does show the APR21 purches just incorect numbers.

Those boats will not end up on SIRP or ISS or any data base, maybe janes fighting ships has them. They small gun boats.

The numbers are corrected on ISS.

Type 90 are on ISS. Though just has 35mm towed AA. The fact is the firs 2 batches of otmat are reported so why would the 3rd be secriet.

agaugust: dont think we are fools here that you can dribble like babies. i told you then that even Ghana takes satellite photos using nigerian satellite paid for as a service. you knew south africa was paying some country for those photos using other nations satellite services.

i showed you source of 100 nigerian military officers with MSc and Phd degrees working everyday in nigerian satellite stations for military spy use by nigeria.

south africa has no military use satellite, and you knew it but denied the fact, because you know it means great military superiority of nigeria over south african blind bat military forces that cannot see enemy coming against them from long distance.

you are a big time liar @andrewza, you lost yout credibility on this forum because you tell lies too much.

you lied, and said south africa has a satellite and that photos where taken by it. the whole of this forum knows you told a big lie deliberately despite all sources posted to prove you were lying...until @msauza mistakenly posted the true comment that south africa has NO satellite

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Again does it matter where tey came from. SA has access to satlights a control stastion and every thing and takes regulaer pics. Now you want to brag about nigeria useing satlights built in other countries and act like nigeria build satlights. Please.

SA uses satlights builds satlights and I gave muiltpil sources.

agaugust: Nigerian navy has Otomat Mk 2 Block I, and its range is 180km, while NNS ARADU fire control radar range is 120km which is the point up to which Otomat missile does NOT need datalink guidance.

i hate repeating posts, i proved that already, dont let me insult you again, fool !





QUOTES :

"Otomat Mk 2 Block I : first model with data-link, 180 km range"

"Nigerian Navy MEKO 360H1 class frigate : Otomat Mk2 "

"Finally, over 120 km is where the need for a long range weapon, external targeting platforms and data-linked updates come into play"

"All in all, this missile was and is a very powerful weapon. Without helicopter provided mid-course guidance (especially in presence of enemy fighters), this weapon is still capable of striking well over the horizon"

"In terms of technology and operability, this missile presents a very powerful anti-ship weapon and perhaps the most powerful of all modern western anti-ship missiles"

SOURCE :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otomat

nigerian navy NNS ARADU Otomat missiles will sink the whole south african navy. FACT !



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Your trust of wikpedia is wonderfull. SIPRI shows them to be block one.


And even if the the most modern version they still just a missil somthing that can be target and shot down. Not to menstion the valour is stealth. If countries like germany strugel to locat them how will NNS fare. Does not matter if the have a 1000000km range if you only locat them after you are all ready under fire.

agaugust: every other Frican country's weapon is not a threat to south africa only according to you.

it took almost 500 pages of this thread to make you agree that Egypt is the strongest military in africa and NOT South Africa.

main reason i joined this forum is to stop you south africans from mis-informing innocent people about military stuff.

is is not you that told lies here consistently for many days fraudulently claiming that south africa has a satellite despite clear sources posted to prove that south africa has no satellite....you are an unrepentant serial liar.

sharaaap !!!!

You need to go to the shara before I start to worry. T72s, come talk when you show me a T90. And in the air force those SU27s will not die with out a fight the gripen may be there better but they not bad air craft.


I have said that from my first posts. I all so then said I would not talk about them again. Any country that get that much milltary aid would be that good.


Yet you your self use miss infomastion, post rumors has facts and post what ever wikpedia says has truth with out checking how there trust wothy and revlance of there citastions.


I point out SA uses satlights, showed a source to back it up. Does it matter where it was made. Non of nigerias satlights were made in nigeria. At least we built home grown satlights. So no I did not lie.

NaijaPikinGidi: You finally accept the reality of Otomats in our arsenal? The last time you were talking and arguing crap about the range now you are talking of sailors? NNS Thunder must be auto-sailing to Australia? You keep showing your stupidity! We have more than enough manpower for every hardware and fighting craft in our inventory. What we have ... we use ... no cold storage!!

There is a difrence between sailing and operating a SSM. And techncaly a modern ship does have auto pilot. Though most navies shy away from the use of it.


Has for the ottomat. It is old and of no threat not to menstion the version nigeria purchsed was with out the data link so no the rang is about the same of a exocetMK40 blok 2 of SA. Only it is bigger thuse easy to pick up on radar and easyer to hit.


All so NNS thunder is the ex USCG boat where NNSardu is a german Meko boat

souldust: i was thinking that maybe what went through your mind when you saw it was "oh! Is this the ship some people said will sink our ship in war?" lol. But what is the ship doing in SA?

O in that terms. It is rather big but only has one 76mm gun. In a war vs a navy it is a easy target. How ever I would not want to be a pirat being shot at.

Refueling. It is sailing to austraila.

I took a few rather poor pics with my black berry. Non up close so they are bad. I will put them up latter.

Henry120: @Andrewza, you are just the person I want to talk/type to. NNS thunder is in your town, please bring us photos of the vessel.

Did you get to enter the ship?

i will try to get a few pics.

Tried but read the above post. Will try again if i have time. The crew is very friendly are unlike most not paranoid.