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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:22pm On Jul 17, 2013
scipher: Nice achievement.. buh, dude we both know nigeria's list is endless grin
you mean at a bottom of a endless pit?:
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:11pm On Jul 17, 2013
agaugust: what year was that ? grin

try get a satellite first okay ? grin

try to walk before you try to run grin
We had satellites in orbit long before you, and in truth nigeria has no satellites in orbits since they were built in china and UK
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:52am On Jul 17, 2013
agaugust: @everybody, please help me beg the south africans to respond to my algerian army vs south african army infantry challenge for the past 3 days.

@THIZA replied me but he posted an old video of some weak south african army special forces who did nothing than to climb different ladders like julius berger construction company. are this the soldiers that will fight algerian army !

is south african army infantry/foot soldiers as weak as a city police force ?


video courtesy of @THIZA re-posted for you all to laugh grin grin grin i know DENEL produces powerful weapons but does it not also produce powerful men that will operate them in war ? urban city hand to hand, close contact warfare cannot be avoided, CAR battle has proved that to us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM1vnA_yxA0

next video is algerian army special forces...please compare the two videos...one country manufactures weapons the other country buys weapons, but who will win the real war ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDJzYESlwWE
lets see one was your standard martial arts routine the other a demonstration for the public
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:48am On Jul 17, 2013
agaugust: then every house/family should have a rocket by now...the world has billions of fools on the streets, able to make rockets grin



if its that easy, seleka would have made 1,000 rockets. grin
Rockets need money, time and a secure area somthing fools don't have and why would seleka have needed them they had 120mmm mortas.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:46am On Jul 17, 2013
agaugust: south africa is actually close to bottom of that list of 20, you rank 17th. only ahead of dunmbo countries like uzbekistan grin grin

1. USA
2. Russia
3. Germany
4. France
5. China
6. United Kingdom
7. Spain
8. Italy
9. Ukraine
10. Israel
11. Netherlands
12. Sweden
13. Switzerland
14. Canada
15. Norway
16. South Korea
17. South Africa
18. Uzbekistan
19. Belgium
20. Belarus

Japan is not on the above list, does it mean south africa can defeat japan in war using technology today ?

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but we are on the list, and no Japan is a very rich island with a powerful navy
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:42am On Jul 17, 2013
agaugust: stop telling bedtime stories. show us how south african army can defeat algerian army in infantry man to man combat.

south african army is 100% weak and cowards, show us how your army will do battle in hard fire fight close in combat, hand to hand, fix bayonets, kick and k.ill ! show us...urban city type of warfare in close contact man to man.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCLVVj-7nqI
circus acts don't frighten me
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:40am On Jul 17, 2013
agaugust: i forced you to realise that both nigeria and south africa imported engines...we both africa level, get it ? grin grin

so dont brag about that your half french Rooivalk helicopter here again. okay ? grin grin
SA all so makes engines.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:38am On Jul 17, 2013
sambos994:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT04AyF895U

Look at the comments:

Frans van der merwe 3 years ago

Not "killers" as you would expect recruits who choose to join the armed forces - rather a bunch of wanna be travelers. Luckily there was one young man that mentioned "serve & protect" almost as an afterthought !! More like a work creation excersise than creating a force to protect our nation.
This clip didnt instill an grain of confidence in the armed forces in me - comeon pull your finger and show us the dicipline and a compitent force !!



Christopher Monti 2 years ago

My God... And I thought my country's military had gone to shit...
rest in peace, South Africa

Roman Benedik 2 years ago

What is this?Scout camp?
writen by people who know nothing, i was there and a number of people get hospitalized every year.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:36am On Jul 17, 2013
agaugust: the engine of the south african rooivalk helicopter you posted in photo above is made 100% in france by a french company then purchased fully built and imported into south africa, without it the helicopter is a piece of metal junk that sits on the floor in a farm like fat turkey !

south african rooivalk helicopter has never been tested in any battle. no country has ever purchased it except south africa. only 11 pieces of it exist in the whole world. its a waste of money project and monumental world market failure.

the most advanced attack helicopter in africa is Egyptian air force Apache, no contest.
And the gun on the M1 is germain and the stryker is made in canada, extra extra.

The Apache is good but egypt uses the D block minus the long bow radar. They far from has good has the rooifalk
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:15am On Jul 17, 2013
patriot4: Judging by the trajectory of that object everybody with intelligence must admit it was a guided missile.
What amazes you in this ?
Nigerians are among the most intelligent people on earth !
Not necessarily. for both points. confirm BH is nigerian
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:38pm On Jul 16, 2013
agaugust: old topic treated fully on page 342 of this forum, please dont drag us back and waste our time here...sharaaap !
And this does not mean AGM, anybody can make a rocket.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:33pm On Jul 16, 2013
patriot4: adress your question to augaugust.
And stop saying rubbish to me.
I quoted you, can you not back up what you said
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:31pm On Jul 16, 2013
patriot4: Stop using the word fact. I think you don't know what it means.
And I can verry easilly say that south africa doesn't produce any missiles as well.
Nigeria produces missiles and yes it is a secret technology given that we obtained its new version from north korea (and we risked sanctions for that), and we also don't want our neighbours or other African countries to feel threatened. I remember Kenya crying foul when Nigeria was buying technology from North Korea
you know how few countries make AGMs, and north korea. Please they so poor they still got T34s in active serves. Nigeria dose not make AGMs
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:23pm On Jul 16, 2013
patriot4: Nigeria already had missile capabilities in the 1970's and Nigeria bought missile technologie from north korea. so you are totally wrong.
You guys are full of sh**. You always want to claim to be the only ones doing something.
Irrelevant trolls.
You mean nigeria wanted to but never manged to build a SLBM

a SLBM was first used in WW2, ATGMs are a different ball game. Any fool can make a rocket.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:49pm On Jul 16, 2013
scipher: it's not 500 anymore it's 800 huh
Numbers changed probly death due to the fact all the doctors ran away. A minor injury can kill due to infection.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:34pm On Jul 16, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: Latecomer!! You missed this same debate long ago. It's not worth going through with you again!! All we see is more of the same pictures as usual yet, the planes were in the freezer when SANDF took to their heels in defeat.
You were unable to proof SA fled or anything like that, on the other hand we provided proof that SA stood their ground and killed up to 800 rebels for 15 dead.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:32pm On Jul 16, 2013
patriot4: Yah, like this would be the first time you are wrong.
It seems to me that you base all your reasonning on the fact that you think that if south africa doesn't have it then Nigeria doesn't have it. You also think that anything south african is superior to anything Nigerian.
You don't give any arguments, you just keep saying your personal feelings.
It suits you well.
When have i been wrong on anything of this subject matter.

Actually SA makes a number of AGMs

SA is superior live with it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:31pm On Jul 16, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: And again I am educating you that the bill has been passed and now awaits Jacob Zuma's rubber stamp! Is that too hard to understand? Once that is stamped by your president, it becomes THE LAW!! Except Zuma returns it for amendment it is safely law by all intents and purpose!! Your university law degree is suspect ... so why not sit down while I teach you parliamentary/constitutional processes applied in your own country!!!!!

Be humble!!
The bill was changed a number of times so it could be passed.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:26pm On Jul 16, 2013
patriot4: Nigeria can actually boast of having done the fastest deployment of men and material in African history and one of the fastest in human history: we did that in Liberia and Sierra Leone.
Nigeria wanted the rest of West Africa to take a little bit of responsability in mali.
We already have soldiers in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea, and Sudan. And each time anything happens in West Africa, we are expected to act alone and bear all the spendings, so we said no, everybody has to contribute.
Say thanks to america and NATO who provided all the air lift. You should do actual research on it a number of nigerian generals and officers have written reports on it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:24pm On Jul 16, 2013
patriot4: Read my post again, and this time pull your head out of your a**.
And what makes you think Nigeria doesn't make those missiles or doesn't make an equivalent one. It seems to me that "the supplies" of these kind of weapons need to be made locally or else it would be difficult.
You think nigeria is making Swing fires or any other AGMs?
You correct and nigeria does not make them.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:20pm On Jul 16, 2013
agaugust: nigerian army has BTR-3U IFV and is a modular amoured vehicle that can perform all land combat roles listed below and that includes anti-tank guided missile firing against enemy Tanks or IFV/APC


The BTR-3U is fitted with the one-person KBA-105 "Shkval" unified fighting module which can accommodate 30mm gun, 7.62mm coaxial machine gun, 30mm automatic grenade launcher and anti-tank guided weapons. This module was developed by the State Scientific Technical Centre of Artillery & Rifle Arms of Ukraine. The Shkval fighting module design is very flexible, which makes it possible to easily replace an existing weapon with another one.


The 30 mm dual-feed cannon has 350 rounds of ready-use ammunition.

A total of 2,500 rounds are carried for the 7.62mm coaxial machine gun.

The 30 mm grenade launcher is mounted on the left side of the turret, having 29 rounds of ready-use ammunition, with additional 87 rounds being carried in reserve (three magazines, each containing 29 rounds).

Six 81 mm electrically operated smoke/aerosol grenade launchers are mounted three either side of the turret rear and firing forwards.

The sighting systems include a commander’s 1PZ-3 observation periscope and a TKN-4S Agat stabilised sight which is integrated with the missile fire control system.


as i told you guys, you have your own...we have our own. go show your photos to M23 rebels in congo DRC
you have 47 and they in a different league. The badger is proved vs 30mm for one thing and has advance passive and active defense.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:15pm On Jul 16, 2013
patriot4: He posted that photo because Nigeria has that weapon. Moreover, the US haven't fired its nuclear missiles since 1945, so shall we assume the US is also incompetent in using them ?
And why should we be firing our missiles ? on who ?
We fire them in trainings and that is enough for now.
The US conduct Nuke drills very so often and conduct inspection on warheads, A nuke is just a war head.

To train and at targets, yes but the swing fire stockpile would be running low now nigeria bought 100 in the mid 1980s.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:06pm On Jul 15, 2013
chris365: are you purposely trying to be ignorant or it's your S.TUPIDITY at play?

nigeria supported Gbagbo be deposed cos we never had good relationship with Gbagbo, just like the case of ghaddafi.
So you admit nigeria supported france in installing their leader?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:50pm On Jul 15, 2013
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:38pm On Jul 15, 2013
Donian007: I can see you realy don't deserve to be spared, after I protested the insults you still had the guts to showcase your ignorance and stupidi*ty. Nigeria has no strong relationship with France and so puppeteering have no place. @Andrewza grow up and resign your classic foolishness.
lets see, in ivory coast who did nigeria back, Sa who wanted there to be a diplomatic outcome or france who used force to install a government of their choosing.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:16pm On Jul 15, 2013
agaugust: [size=14pt]C-803 anti-ship missile is the standard missile for all Type 056 warships.[/size] so sharaaap !!!

QUOTE :

PLA (CHINESE) NAVY Type 056 Corvette

Class overview
Builders: Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard
Huangpu Shipyard
Wuchang Shipyard
Liaonan Shipyard
Operators: People's Liberation Army Navy China
Bangladesh Navy (future)

Preceded by: Type 037 patrol craft
Building: 8-9
Planned: 40 for 1st batch[1]
Completed: 10
Active: 6
General characteristics
Type: Corvette
Displacement: 1,300 tonnes (Standard Load)
1,440 tons (Full Load)
Length: 89m
Beam: 11.6m
Draft: 4.4m
Propulsion: 2 diesel
Speed: 28 kn
Range: 2000 nmi (3704 km) at 18 knots
Complement: 60
Sensors and
processing systems: SR64 air/surface-search radar
TR47 gun fire-control radar
Armament:
• 2× 2-cell YJ-83 (C-803) anti-ship missiles, amidships

• 1× HQ-10 8-round SAM launcher, aft
• 1× H/PJ-26 76 mm main gun, forward
• 2× H/PJ-17 30mm RWSs, amidships
• 2× triple torpedo tubes
Aviation facilities: Helipad

SOURCE : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_056_corvette

i said your nightmare will soon include daytime-mare

QUOTE :


"The C-803/YJ-83 program began in the early months of 1994. From November 1995 through November 1996, a total of five flight tests were conducted. Three were failures, including a test conducted on 15 November 1995, during which the test missile immediately plunged into the water as soon as it left the launcher. Analysis of the event later revealed that all failures were caused by the missile's propulsion systems. As a result of the failures, a suggestion was made to abandon the project altogether and instead adopt imported Russian systems. after numerous attempts and trials the domestic development and upgrade of the indigenous propulsion systems of these missiles was finally completed."

In June 1998, a test flight was conducted after the new quality policy was implemented, and was successful. Four months later, two missiles scored direct hits on their targets at the maximum range in test flights. Immediately following these two successes, another three tests were conducted, two of which were completely successful, while the other was considered partially successful. After many more tests, the C-803 missile was finally accepted into service"
.

SOURCE :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-803

i said envy will skyrocket your blood pressure all you liar south africans. the above proves that C-803 anti-ship missile is in full service since 1998 and functions perfectly and about 1,000 have been produced and in use today.... its video below is from year 2004


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2LmLaZmvJQ


dont try to select one sentence out of one hundred and cut off the rest of the story to tell a lie and confuse people. most weapons have failures during development and testing stages like your south african Gripen jets in sweden was a technical failure for 10 years from 1982 to 1992, does that mean no air force flies Gripen jet today ? educate your self below...fool :


QUOTE

"Sweden first ordered the JAS 39 in 1982; this first order was named Batch One and consisted of 30 JAS 39A single-seaters. The first Gripen was rolled out on 26 April 1987, marking Saab's 50th anniversary. Originally planned to fly in 1987, the first prototype (serial number 39-1) took its maiden flight on 9 December 1988 with pilot Stig Holmström at the controls. During the test programme, concern surfaced about the aircraft's avionics, specifically the fly-by-wire flight control system (FCS), and the relaxed stability design configuration. On 2 February 1989, this issue was dramatically highlighted with the crash of the prototype during an attempted landing at Linköping; test pilot Lars Rådeström was able to walk away with only a broken arm. The cause of the crash was identified as pilot-induced oscillation (PIO), caused by problems to the FCS's pitch-control routine.

To rectify the first and earlier problem, Saab and US firm Calspan introduced major software improvements to the aircraft. A modified Lockheed NT-33A was used in testing; flight testing resumed within 15 months following the accident. The programme was again hindered when, on 8 August 1993, production aircraft 39102 was destroyed in an accident during an aerial display in Stockholm.
Test pilot Rådeström lost control of the aircraft during a roll at low altitude, and the aircraft rapidly stalled, forcing him to eject. Saab later found the problem to be high amplification of the pilot's quick and significant stick command inputs. The ensuing investigations and rectification of the flaws delayed test flying by several months, resuming in December 1993. "

watch video of 1989 Gripen jet crash during its 10 years failure in testing of 1982 to 1992.

SOURCE :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6yVU_yYtEc

SOURCE : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen


all you south africans will have full high blood pressure from nigerian navy next year 2104, your sickness just started today

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it is not known if nigeria will buy any ASM for there new OPVs, nor does matter the missiel will only be has good has it's launch platforms radar.


And the fact a gripen prototype crashed means what, it production model safety record is very high.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:04pm On Jul 15, 2013
scipher: calling nigeria a french puppet is a big insult, if care is not taken, I'll find him and I'll break his leg angry he dare not say it in public ...
truth hurts
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:35am On Jul 15, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: Bloody, bloody liers! You think we are in the stoneage? Keep telling that to yourselves ... it will help erase the memory of the CAR trouncing by Seleka!
The links were posted a long time ago.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:34am On Jul 15, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: Stop your damn lies and excuses!! You must be such a freaking lying freak!
The French could not have said NO. Show proof or STOP your lies my friend! SANDF's arrogance is so contemptous and detrimental to the current state of your national security interests! Why is it always South Africa against France?

Why did France say YES to Nigeria's Airforce landing and use of Airports in Mali and Cote d'ivoire?

It's either your SANDF generals are not advising Jacob Zuma or Jacob Zuma's wives are the real commanders in charge of giving "fiddling" Zuma commands on when to give your generals orders! Either way, you guys are a big joke! CAR will forever haunt the SANDF until you learn from your Nigerian masters of the African terrain!
How could the french not say no?

French said yes to nigeria because you a french pupet following there orders. The french wanted seleka to take over.


You real are a fool.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:21am On Jul 15, 2013
agaugust: go to nigerian navy website and google the manufactures name of each of those warships and see the standard armament.

nigerian navy exocet, sea cat, ottomat missiles, what are they for ? fishing boats ? fool !

QUOTE "The Shagari regime delivered three French-made Combattante III and three German-made Lurssen Fast Attack Craft, all armed with Exocet or Otomat missiles and measuring 58m in length"

SOURCE

http://beegeagle./2013/03/08/world-exclusive-nns-siri-p181-a-58-metre-combattante-iii-fast-attack-craft-of-the-nigerian-navyprops-chairman-maz/

thats just one of them, i wont answer you again. all i need is to prove my point to my fellow nigerians...not to you a fool and liar
Off the top of my head. NNS thunder. A ex USCG cutter. No missiels.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:16am On Jul 15, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: Mr. AndrewZA, I'm not the id.iot here! You are!!

It's apparent that this basic TRUTH precisely hit you at the core of your fraudlent pride!

So if you had to bring a strong force to Bangui who stopped you? Your President Zuma or or the French? Did SANDF request to use the airport for deployment and the French refused? Stop your silly tantrums! The truth really hurt you this time. But no apologies!
Zuma stopped the deployment due 2 those resoans.

Yes the french siad no.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 11:14am On Jul 15, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: You never lost in Angola neither did you win in Angola. You ran away in CAR while your SANDF men molested and stole from prostitutes in DRC.
We won every battel we fought in angola. And were able to defend our bases in CAR. Only 15 people from the start of our DRC deployment. My word.

Nigeria murderd unarmend civlians in serri leone.

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