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whitelotus:
Everyone is born a pure agnostic.


The denial of a belief does not equal a belief on the opposite.

For instance, if you say you have a car, I wouldn't believe until you show me your car papers as evidence.

I am an atheist because there is no evidence for god. I remain skeptic in the face of no evidence

You cannot be a skeptic and an atheist at the same time. And as I earlier said man is born "Tabula rasa". Let me put your car analogy into a syllogism so that we can weigh it.
*To have a car is to have car papers
*My father does not have car papers
*Therefore, my father does not have a car
Does that make sense? That aside, you say there's no evidence for God, which means you have made yourself an authority on what we can use as a standard for identifying God's existence, so how can we get to know about God's existence, where lies the burden of proof?

whitelotus:
Everyone is born a pure agnostic.


The denial of a belief does not equal a belief on the opposite.

For instance, if you say you have a car, I wouldn't believe until you show me your car papers as evidence.

I am an atheist because there is no evidence for god. I remain skeptic in the face of no evidence

Is atheism a belief system or not?

fieryy:
Me: I don't believe atheism is a belief system

You : If atheism isn't a belief then what is it?

I think my post was very clear, therefore this is going to be my last post on this topic. There's nothing systematic about atheism. There are no set of principles and concepts or whatsoever we follow.

The following has nothing to do with my initial post because I had belief systems in mind, but now thinking about your argument of "To deny a particular thing is the very creation of another.".

The only reason I have to deny a belief is because it was created in the first place. Everyone is born an atheist and without those beliefs, atheism would have been a normal thing, not a lack of sth created or a lack of belief in sth. my family worships etc.

Saying everyone is born an atheist is false. Everyone is born "tabula rasa", no belief, no knowledge.
Your answer is quite different from the question I asked, I never used the term belief system but just belief. If you understand what a belief is, then it would be easier to understand how atheism has generated into a system. Belief is the foundation to knowledge, and that which can be known has to be true but at the end of the day, belief doesn't amount to knowledge. But to hold a belief is to take a position as against not holding one at all which is in itself another position and that's why I said the denial of a thing is the creation of another even if it might not have been held before. The idea of God's existence necessarily creates room for the denial of that same existence thus an existing belief system necessarily creates an alternate belief system questioning and taking a different position from that very one. Atheists hold the following beliefs:
*God does not exist
*He cannot be seen
*There is no force acting on humans, its just us and us alone etc
If I walk up to 1990 atheists, they will repeat same thing over and again, if such belief isn't systematic, then what's it?

fieryy:
I don't believe atheism is a belief system. I mean, yes there might be some atheistic religions out there, but atheism is not just the lack of belief in God or gods. It is also a lack of belief in concepts like karma, the lotus flower, the dharma wheel etc (known e.g in an atheistic religion like Buddhism).

And to be fair, I don't think I've ever deliberately tried to convince others. To be honest, I just don't care if someone is a Christian, Buddhist, Muslim or even worships the spaghetti monster, which is why I rarely participate in those kind of debates.

As long as you're not hurting anyone, trying to preach to me or coming up with myths and claiming they are facts, we're good.

Unfortunately, some won't just let you be. I mean, look at this one

A lack of belief is in itself a belief. To deny a particular thing is the very creation of another. If atheism isn't a belief then what is it?

The love of money is the root of all unhappiness. They only got what they bargained for, it was all about the money. Marriage is not a poverty alleviation scheme because you will be treated like like a pauper

mrMeen:
how you see am na

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mrMeen:
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alimaa:
Please I need a piece of advice on how to handle this situation. I have a very close friend and his wife has asked for financial assistance severally and I obliged. The problem I have here is what will my friend think if he should be seeing a bank alert from me on his wife's phone? The woman has been calling my line since the beginning of this month which I have continued to ignore. She would later send text asking for financial help and this kind of situation is very confusing because you might report to her husband and they will both turn the whole thing against you. Please what should I do?

You have no sense of boundaries. There's no reason why your friends gf talk more of wife should be asking you for money, moreover, Your friend might be in on the whole sham. You put yourself in this situation, Because there's no way you can prove to anyone that you are not sleeping with that woman which I'm suspecting you are doing even if you might not be

If any girl tells you one prophet from somewhere said something, my brother japa. She's incapable of deciding for herself and doesn't seem interested in settling down with you, fish full river just cast your net somewhere else

Frezhkid10:
Good afternoon house..I have an issue bothering me of late about having a girl as my own. I am in my early twenties and it seems converting a girl to a girlfriend seems like a herculean task.
Each time I get attracted to a girl, I tend to shower her with care and listen to her,chat and talk most of the time and along the line when I ask for dating it ends with rejection...am confused and don't know what to do again...I need advise on these issue cause am about losing my mind
Please ignore all errors.

Change your approach, you are putting the cart before the horse. You meet a girl you like, tell her your intentions before any commitment

Hope she didn't go to her grandparents house and forgot to tell her fiancee

I'm here to read stories

Lekside442:
Good evening nairalanders...I just need a little advice from you all..no insults please..and don’t mind my English....so we planned to meet today again..though we’ve being meeting before..she comes all the way from ondo to akure..so when she gets there..she called and I told her..she just have to wait for me..cuz it’s very hard to see motorcycle at this time of Christmas...she was then patient..so when I finally get there she said she has being waiting in the sun since..I then explained to her it’s very rare to get a bike this time....she then said okay..immediately we get there I get Something for her,a cold stone..after sometimes..she was then going through my phone....she saw one of my pictures and she asked when I snapped it I showed her the info which was Thursday...and her mood just changed..and she ask me to get my phone away from her...asked her what’s wrongshe didn’t respond..She then said she’s going back to ondo...I said I wanna give the bike man the TFare she said if I do she’s gonna tear it..saying all sort of things...I then just have to leave her to go..embarrassed me there and saying abusing words...and that’s how I leave her to go...please nairalanders what do you think I can do about this shit...I’m fed up of her unnecessary angers all the time.we've being dating and it’s almost 4months now...genuine advice please..I’d be very grateful...Thanks.

She's possessed. People don't just pick offense over any little thing without probable cause. She will frustrate your life, just look for someone else to date

Jeweltz:
Good afternoon my fellow women,

This is going to be a long Post

Kindly be reminded that I don't need insultive commentaries as I'm already hurt by the narratives I'm about to share . I only need an advise. Google search lead me to this website few hours ago.

I have been into many relationship in the past with guys that their behaviour and way of life are nothing to write home about. The last straw that had the camel's back was the one that made me gave up on men to focus solely on my career. I was disvirgined at the age of 22 by a guy who I gave 100% love to.

It happened;

Sometimes around last year, a friend of mine was having her birthday. She was a colleague from work. I work in an audit firm in Lagos, VI( identity witheld). I didn't plan to spend the night there, but as it happened to be on a Saturday, I didn't have any objection when she asked me to spend the night in her place.

About 7pm in the evening, we decided to go out and chill which will be funded by her boyfriend. It was there I met this guy, which was a friend of the said boyfriend. Talks run into talks, he seemed like a perfect match for me and I was already getting used to him. I liked him.

Few days after,he asked me out which I found nice and cool.

Later, I got to know he has no job and has been into some side hustling all the while. I had no problem with this.

Months later , he started requesting money from me which he claimed went into settling some debts. There was a time I collected salary, said he needed 130k, it was so hard but I had to give him. All that I wanted is his happiness as he claimed he needed money for some hustles.

To cut the story short;

He told me his Love for Virgin girl and how he can Never marry a girl that's not a virgin. I asked him what if I'm not a virgin, he responded in the negative and I started getting nervous about us. I knew I'm not a virgin but ..........

He has been pestering me for sex, which I understand it's not a big deal. But the conversation we had about virginity has been making me scared of losing him. What if he dump after sex Just because I'm not a virgin. My mistake was that I had lied that I am Virgin. Didn't know why I had to .

I have resist all his attempts to have sex with me. Few days ago, I saw his chat with a girl which he's been going out. He had sex with her. I confronted him and he denied. This has make him to be ignoring me. He's not picking my calls, barely reply my text and if he ever, it's only one word and boring. But anytime he needs money from me, he call me.

Last week, he told me he needed money but I refused him. He started cursing me on the phone and vow to call it quit with me. he's still yet to respond to all my pleas.

Ladies in the house, what have I done wrong??

You are being played really hard, if he was so interested in marrying a virgin, he wouldn't be asking you for sex. You accused him of being unfaithful, if he was so interested in you as you had made yourself believe, he would be doing anything to change that impression but instead he starts snubbing you. He's just using you as you are beginning to realise and very soon, he will blame you for him being a cheat since you did not give in to his demands.

Secondly, you lying to him about being a virgin is terrible and I believe the sole reason is that time is no longer your friend or pressure to bring a man home. There are better men out there, when the time is right he will meet you.

On a serious note, I don't know if I can apply for a boyfriend position so that I can share from the largesse, head burn this Christmas

I wanted to state the obvious when everyone was throwing sympathy around but was not in any mood to act like a DICK which was the only thing she's had for the past days

robertmugabe:
Well, you may call them low life in your own narrow way of reasoning but in far broad societal expectations, they are far from what you call them until the time of consequences of their actions, if at all there will be. Baba it is not in my nature to compare my self but at some point of protracted hopelessness, you spontaneously find your self in d habit of putting your life in retrospective assessment and measure against the societal expectations and those things you see all arround...

LOL.... Societal expectations you say, NOBODY CARES . The same society would be the ones to put a tyre on your neck and set you ablaze when the going gets tough. This path you are aiming for, it will not end well for you. There are people sleeping under the bridge, people selling on the streets, doing every menial job possible so as to be able to provide for their upkeep or you think they don't know where they can get guns to Rob or do ritual? There is no quick money anywhere, you should be willing to sacrifice something if you choose to follow that path, your so called friends will not tell you until its too late to turn around. Be smart!

robertmugabe:
Pls permit me to post this piece here as it seems not to be compatible with all the sessions available...

I will be brief as much as possible...

I am typing in disdain and gross depression. I am 32 years old. I finished from a university in the year 2012. As it is always of any person living in the glory and self-simulated value of finishing with good grade and from one of the leading universities in Nigeria, one would, of course, erroneously expected to retire from the academic environment, to a cushy labour market environment. Far from what I confidently pictured while in school, it is 6 years now and still counting, of active service in the labor market in search of deserving job. From the beginning of post-university time, many of my friends picked up YAHOO instead of wasting their time in d tensed labor market while some newly opted for it along the line of their hopelessness in the labor market. I was invited but I took my uncompromising stance. So far, I have tried to upgrade my self sha with professional exams but yet not materialising.

Behold, my friends are now juicily successful in their fraudline path. Even if I get good work today, it may take me 15 years of conservative savings before matching their lofty height of success. Almost all of them are now married, have an obviously paying businesses and of course, possess what it takes to earn Daddy status in their respective environment. While me no even get an apartment of my own... Ah still they live with my brother who is already married.

I am aware of how they make their money through compromising gmail, but I was hellbent even though the cross breeds of alerts on their respective phones is always intimidating. Even, sometimes, they did engage my service of writing an official and professionally worded statements meant to be furnished to their clients.

Funniest thing and not unexpected anyway, some of them are now stylishly cutting me off. Because I am presently far below their current social status and probably because I seems to them not to be a serious type or seems to them to be a coward.

For days now, I have been contemplating compromise and it's appearing to me that it is getting too late to be an upright man.

Dear Nairalanders, pls have you ever been in this situation and how did you overcome the thought of such compromise ?

Ewu! Hope you go follow them die their die when the time reach. Just imagine the low lives you are using to compare yourself, instead of you to focus and build your life, you are moving around with nonentities. You call them friends but they won't help you unless you join them, what a pity that at 32 you are still useless. This life is a race, run your own, do not allow greed for unsustainable wealth to blind you and Rob you of your peace and happiness. 2020 is the year, work hard and be content, when the time is right God will provide beyond your expectations.

Paige001:
you just crossed a boundary by checking her messages, there's a privacy line that shouldn't be cossed in relationships or even marriages

my advice is you should have a heart to heart talk with her, i can assure you not every lady out there is a saint everybody has there own demons, who knows after leaving her you might meet someone who's worse

Privacy my black fvcking ass! Even if every girl ain't a Saint, they are equally not all prostitutes. Hoes defending Hoes(HDH) association president, weldone

You are not happy with your own life, how you expect others when dey struggle with their own to be happy for you? Everyone with his own clock, hope say you go follow those people when you dey use as standard die their die when e reach?

Focus on your own life, no be everybody go build house, buy motor or live extravagant, it's the reality of life. The choice to be happy is free and it costs nothing, make all of us pray for enlightenment to be able to see what really matters

Na rice and chicken, when dem go shit that evening be some people problem. Let your focus be on Jesus and how to be a better person

JustMe407:
Dear nairalanders, I need you honest advice on what to do. I am still a young man and any mistake now will have a grave effect on my future. So please, help a brother.

Be objective and consise please. It is a long narrative.

I have a girlfriend whom I have been dating for up to 10 months now. She has all the qualities of wife, friend and a partner. I mean, she prays for me, supports me and do many things that places her above average.

I've two issues that are bugging me;

First is, I just graduated from the University and started to follow the road map I designed for my life. I am hardworking, so I started doing business immediately after my defense. Interstate exports of perishables. While I was in school, I made a lot of money doing designs for students; I am a UI/UX designer. The problem here is that I can't account for all those monies I made. A lot of expenses especially for my girlfriend. Even till now, I am supposed to send her some money but will I continue like this? I need stability in my business and need to save more and need capital for the last mile logistics company I want to set up next year.

Second issue is; I recently returned from an event I attended in Lagos some days ago, I came back very late and was grossly tired. While we were chatting, she asked me some questions which I told her I was very tired and eventually, I slept off. My phone beside me till the next morning. Fast forward to yesterday, I told her of my intentions to concentrate more in building for the future - it doesn't mean our relationship would be off. She started asking questions like "do you need some space?" "Am I bugging you?" She also said I don't "speak her language enough" language here is bonding, intimacy and closure. I was surprised at her response.

I noticed she'd be online for a long time and won't reply me on time, so I asked her who she was chatting with and she replied someone. I ignored her. This morning she called, while we got talking I asked her about the person she was chatting with. She told me the guys name. And asked if I will forgive her of anything, I said yes. She now said, she was introduced to the guy and they got flirting from the day I came back from my journey and told her I was tired and needed to rest. Her excuse was that, I pushed her to and she just wanted someone to speak/talk to.

Now, my question is, Should I move on with my business and focus, or, should I continue with the relationship? I don't want to be with someone that gives up on me easily.

P.S I love her so much. And she does too. We've through a lot together.

Please moderators, help move this to front page for more contributions.

Be like say your brain dey pain you, until you ready for marriage, focus on your life and build yourself, she just made you understand that you are dispensable. Dey there dey do good face, because na you be that brother when get Ecobank but they pay GT staff salary, wise up

Really impressed by the thought flow. Women should begin taking responsibility for themselves, sex is cheap to get, the era of housewife is over, No ring for lazy bitches

He should be thankful that it happened this early into the marriage, it would have been a living nightmare for him

Fredlongs:
Fake pastors, fake churches and plenty of foolish followers doing stupid and unimaginable things mostly just for earthly things ( cars, houses and money)... We all should be very careful with who we call pastor and what we call church nowadays

They are con men not pastors, God knows those who are for him and that's why scripture tells us to test every spirit and even Christ said on the last day many will come claiming to have worked wonders in my name but I will tell them, go away for I do not know you. Most of our people want miracles instead of focusing on the word which brings even more than they are going around looking for.

ThisisIkemefuna:
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She might not be cheating but seems like someone that can be convinced to do so easily by a man. If I were you, would act as though I'm not bothered, give her money to go see her parents for Christmas, call her when she's there to return when you ask her to

Dbullofficial:
I haven't been very lucky with women this year. I became really lonely and unhappy due to my nature as a conc introvert. In this moment I remembered the only girl that seemed to love me. So I resorted to traveling and visiting her. Actually she lives with my aunt so I visited them both. I got there and I met a really huge and unpleasant suprise. It was during this period that it occurred to me that the only reason she liked me then was because I was the only available option. But now she has gained admission and has met lots of other younger guys and all she did was to make me her ATM card a girl that seemed to love me when I had nothing. I was sternly rejected by her and the whole experience turned out to be opposite of what I expected. Now I found myself wallowing in deeper emotional loneliness.

I'm an introvert just like you but have come to realise one thing, just express yourself no matter what, if one girl says no or even 10, there will be one person who would say yes. Rejection is normal, everybody no fit like you

Desiree47:
Hello nairalander, good evening everyone.Have made things so complicated don't know what to do right now and I'm deeply troubled.
Last year, I was here asking for business suggestions for my boyfriend, thanks to everyone who gave me good business plans and some were saying he was going to change as soon as he starts making money, he is financially stable now and he takes care of me.
The problem I'm having with him is that he is still communicate and send his with his exs money although they are married, he always tells me he can't do anything with them because they are married, what about other way round? He told me his ex was was blaming him for making her getting married to her husband, apart from his exs so many other issues I'm scared of not now but in the future, that he might get married to another woman or have other children.
Six months ago we had some issues because of his exs Who is not married,I stopped talking to him but he called my mum and explain things to her, my mum settled us, but he still communicate with her. Whenever I complain about them, he always tells me all his exs and female friends knows I'm his girlfriend and that he his ready to get married but he his waiting for me which is true, because I'm still in school.
Two months ago, he said giving me attitude,he doesn't even have my time, we don't talk like we used to even if I call he always tell me he is busy and whenever I call at night he is on another call, that's the time we usually talk at night. I couldn't busy so I told him how I feeling, his response was " the reason I call you most time is because that's my responsibility as a boyfriend not because I missed you" I was angry and I ended the call, although he was trying to apologize, he called back I didn't pick his call, although. After two days I spent him a breakup msg in the morning, he didn't reply or called. Later that evening, I regretted sending him that msg, so sent him apology messages he didn't returned, although my mom settled the two of us again.
He traveled to our hometown for a friend's wedding and also because of his house project too. He told me is mom and my mom asked him when we are getting married. His mum like me so much and she has given advice on how to cope with his son.
We have been dating for almost three years now I have never cheated on him..
The problem now is that during the period that he was giving me attitude, I sent my ex apology msg last week which he accepted after three years breakup,I'm currently dating my ex though it's just a week,My exs love me more than I love but I love my boyfriend more than he love me.
My exs is very caring and he haven't changed a bit though he is broke, I don't know if he is going to cheat on me when he starts making money.
My boyfriend isn't really give me attention but he gives me money, I found out he is cheating on me with other girls, though he always tells me even if he wants to cheat he won't do it to my face. My boyfriend might propose anytime soon, I don't want to hurt my ex again.Im worried of getting getting married to my boyfriend because he might become someone else after marriage. Now my boyfriend seems to be more caring.
Should I stick to my boyfriend or my ex who loves me?
How do I handle the issue at hand now?

People would go around and deliberately create problems for themselves, come online and start telling stories. You have two options, marry your cheating boyfriend *IF* he proposes and live with that reality or wait for your broke ex to gather himself, get some cash and start cheating on you