₦airaland Forum

Blessed200016:
solely because the man at executive helm of affairs did allow without interference.

Who does that to OBJ

I do not really understand what you wrote above. How are you sure Buhari did not interfere? How and why did the case suddenly come up soon after Saraki became SP?

Has it occurred to you that the case must be just too watery so that no interference was viable?

Talking about interference, perhaps if GEJ went to court to challenge all the kids vote in Kano & Northern Nigeria, with all the FG money at his disposal, maybe Buhari would not even be at the helm of affair today. Worse come to worst lots of blood will be shed like Al-Bashir has been doing in Syria.

Think of that first. That GEJ was a decent man. I know in 9ja decency is called foolishness. Reason we have got got no where with all our human and natural resources.

Aufbauh:
Threaten ko, Theatre ni.
Lamido's explanation is vague and senile, only meant to appease the PDP gullible supporters.

How can a man who has survived the so-called threat for more 3 years in the opposition carve in to submission when he has less than a year to battle through.
After all according to them PMB is not coming back.

The only difference this time is that with the wave of defections from APC to PDP, APC is desperate to score at least some points against PDP by any means.
Until recently they had majority in parliament and no real need to pressure Akpabio. However corruption allegation files are potent weapons in the hands of FG to use anytime they are desperate. Akpabio knows how the file could dent his image and seriously damage his political ambitions even if found innocent years later.

Hopebringer:
Are you indirectly comparing Nigerian citizens to Chinese or Spanish citizens?

This is a joke right ? Or maybe you made an honest mustake either way don't do that.

China and Spain can be denied visas for simple immigration reasons but Nigeria has a myrad or resonsss that justify sanction and visa denial from corrupt government to human rights abuses and no government will to stop genocide, the list could go on and on .

You need to update yourself of what s called international policies on abusive governments, a UN backed policy

And mind you the USA foreign office released statements to say visa would be restricted in certain counties to emergency of critical.needs but Nigeria wasn't on that list meaning closing this office in Nigeria is for an entirely yet to be announced reason . Is it a coincidence that there was a leak recently on foreign governments telling buhati not to run again?

Who knows

Abeg do not argue American matter with Afam o. Afam is an "American" that just happens to have found himself in 9ja by accident of birth.
Afam feels very emotional hearing American national anthem, he said this last line about 5 years ago himself.

He probably follows every new development in American politics.

On the other hand the way America perceives a country's leadership clearly plays a big role in how they relate with that country. For example if Iran was to get a non-religious democratic leadership, Al-Bashir leaves and a new American trained dude takes over and such, America will certainly change their relationship with those countries including travel restriction for citizens of Iran & Syria.

lathrowinger:
I was told that Trump wanted adding Nigerian among their visa free countries...

At least she represents more African & black women than the anorexic-grade skinny ones we usually see crowned.

Nice one.

Blessed200016:
But in a sane country, was Saraki appointed SP legally ? Let's start from there

Did APC win in court to remove Saraki if his appointment as SP was illegal?
At least Saraki won CCT and other legal stuff he fought.

tintingz:
This is the reason I said ancient beliefs a.k.a myths, juju, voodoo, God/s, spirits are USELESS in terms of reality!

Didn't you understand my premises?

If something doesn't provide something effective, what should we call it, what purpose does it serve or what exactly is your argument? Aren't you contradicting and countering your own argument?

Would you also tell Jews, Muslims and Christians to forget their type of God? Give a simple answer unambiguous answer.

I disagree. Shrines, temples, and native beliefs are considered part of extraordinary human heritage with UNESCO doing its best to protect them worldwide.

tintingz:
With your epistle, the conclusion is juju is still useless.

Using juju for blulletproof in wars is a good thing, using juju as a form of weapons is good for self defense, we read and hear how our forefathers used juju in wars.

So why is it not adopted in the military force?

So Jews use the star of David, Christians use the cross or Muslims use their crescent to develop nuclear reactors, bullet proof or fighter jets we have today? Does it make those believes useless?

Japanese have largely kept their Shinto faith and until 1860s had no modern science or tech of the time, and considered rather backward people by Westerners. Did Japan use ancient Shinto belief to develop their science and tech?

How can you equate ancient religious beliefs with mathematical, pure & applied sciences of today?

Did you not see the banners of Kings of France and England bearing the cross in the crusade in the holy land in 1291 and other crusades, did it save them from losing the city of Acre to the Muslim Mamluks? Did they all not believe they were fighting God's war?

Anyway someone who knows history that deep won't make very shallow comments as you do. So I am expecting way too much.

tintingz:
No one said there's no evil or wicked people, you're pulling strawman.

What is said is juju is impotent and useless, if juju works why are we not developed and be among the G7 using juju as nuclear weapons and bulletproof for our military forces, why?

First of all we generally have a warped idea of "juju". The word juju is even a derogatory word by the French to describe African belief system.So called juju was never about doing evil. Foreign religions had to demonise our traditional belief to get a foothold and eventually dominate.

Secondly most using juju these days are actually Christians/Muslims who approach traditional priests for evil stuff like money ritual.

Thirdly, many modern babalawos have commercialised their skills in response to what people are requesting: money ritual, tying down a friend or family member's progress in life, illness, etc.

When you begin to think in that manner bolded, you will get the whole idea wrong. It is an ancient art that was never meant to be hi-tech or do evil. Science didn't develop from Western paganism or occultism. Occult are still very much active in the West.

We ascribe too much power to traditional arts may because of Nollywood (Susu, K. O Kanayo, and the dude killing his brothers to take their land, etc) which in reality is not that clear-cult.

Traditional worship was developed largely based on nature (rivers, thunder, mountain, moon, stars, rain, sun, whirlwind, seasons) and the philosophy of how they work and how certain chosen people (who in death may also become deities) can communicate with these and other forces beyond our reach, and the role they play in the affairs of mankind, good or bad. furthermore these forces manifest the power of the superior God (Eledumare, Osanobua, Chukwu, etc) as intermediaries.
This is my conclusion based on interacting with people who were around 90 to 105 years old by the end of 1980s. People who lived their entire lives as pagans, while watching how the world changed drastically in religious terms.

Killing people, hindering people's progress or money ritual were never relevant themes in their worship. It was about protecting oneself and family from evil, praying for progress and good health.

On the contrary, there were rules and taboos that were important in inter-personal relationships. People were never to do evil to each other in the community including infidelity, doing evil diabolic stuff against others. In fact certain deities (Alale, Oro, Erimwin-Idu, Erimwin-otor, Orele) are examples) were dedicated to cleansing the land of abominable acts or taboo deliberately or inadvertently broken, yearly or every few years. People maybe required to swear to do no evil or those who did may be required to confess. You may hear of Oro festival in Ikorodu sometimes. There equivalent ones across many parts of Southern Nigeria.

The error we make is to assume it's about a witch in Edo or Ijebu flying to kill one successful son or daughter of theirs in Abuja or Kano.

If we fix our roads, provide an excellent healthcare/emergency care system, a booming economy, higher quality of life, people will live better & longer and village people wont have to take the blame for everything.

As for the man with juju at doorstep, we have no evidence it was meant to kill or impoverish his tenants. It could have been for protection fro bad tenants or to get good tenants and drive bad ones out of his house, at least in his own belief.

Considering how much I have lost to bad tenants (lost rent & legal fees), an older landlord brought up with traditional beliefs could easily have resorted to planting juju in his house to avoid bad tenants.

rman:
1962 guys looks fit

Tell you. How many will fit between those openings in windows of 1962 today?

Much of Nigeria's problem began in Western Nigeria. With Awo-Akintola problem the major one.

wilcox:
So Adams oshiomole did not make the list, I thought he is famous man.

This is not noise makers, short charcoal, bride importers or Sarakophobic list my brother. That is why he didn't make it.

mojibbz:
Lol please are you using Nigeria gtb or what? I abandoned gtb 2 years ago and I've not seen anyone outside of Nigeria using gtb till this day

Dude, I nor just wan vex this morning for that dude you quoted. That at how they hyped GTB sotey I went to them. Na story. I abandoned the account because of their blunders. Don't even get me started on Skye Bank.

Banking in Nigeria still has a VERY long way to go. Funny enough banks were better in the 1980s and earlier before banks mushroomed all over the place. Despite recapitalization, they are still very far behind.

To begin with, why save money with pitiable interest rate and inflation that will eat away both capital and interest?

elChapo1:
How Saraki Got to Control Buhari’s Kinsman, Lawal Daura



I know a lot of you don’t know the Senate President, Bukola Saraki, beyond the media. He seems like a normal person, but if you’ve watched him closely, you would’ve noticed that he closes one eye too often. Why? Saraki is an Illuminati agent, and only a few people knew about this.

Those of us who knew Saraki’s Illuminati background are hardly shocked by how he outsmarted every politician from his father to President Buhari. Of course it’s not ordinary. You don’t need any proof. You only need to study how he has maneuvered his ways to power over the years, and managed to resist any gang-up.

After the 2015 elections, the CPC and ACN blocs of APC invited Saraki to a meeting. “We don’t want you as Senate President,” they said. Saraki paused as though to reflect, stood up gently, and chanted, “Novus Ordo Seclorum.” They froze. “What did you say?” Saraki asked.

“N-nothing, nothing,” they stammered. He nodded, and smiled.

These CPC and ACN errand boys who met Saraki became his supporters from that night. Everyone in APC was shocked. Our journalists who had interviewed those men in the past couldn’t connect the dots. It didn’t make sense to them, that sudden support from his erstwhile political foes.

What Saraki did from that point was the move of an Illuminati master. He visited his senator friends one after the other to appeal to them to support him. All the ones he got to look at with one eye closed while chanting “Novus Ordo Seclorum,” ended up supporting him.

Saraki was always smooth. Once he identified a threat, he cast his Illuminati spell to neutralize it. It’s how he got his fellow senators to be submissive. However many of his colleagues know about his spiritual powers, and so they avoid his gaze. Guess who told them. Tinubu!

Tinubu too is an Illuminati agent, that’s why the war was tough for Saraki. Tinubu was always quick to reveal Saraki’s secret. It’s the reason Fashola and others didn’t look Saraki straight in the eyes when they were being screened as Ministers. They knew about his powers.

Why do you think Hamid Ali was avoiding the Senate? Why do you think the Inspector-General of Police was also afraid? Because they got scared when Tinubu told them about it. That’s also how Danladi Umar of CCT trial was neutralized. He was forming gangster until Saraki got him.

Supreme Court justices were the easiest for Saraki. He invited them for tea, one after the other, a day to the judgement in his asset declaration trial. He got to look into their eyes, and took possession of their mind. The next day, they unanimously acquitted him of wrong-doing.

Now you also understand why Saraki often stared at Buhari, especially when they’re seated in the same row, either at an event or in the mosque. If he could get to our IGP and make him stutter “transmission of transmission” repeatedly before the camera, imagine what would’ve happened if the IG had met him face to face.

Since you’re yet make sense of how Saraki got Buhari’s kinsman, Lawal Daura, to do his bidding, this is how it happened. Unlike the Customs and Police bosses, the DSS boss was naive. He looked into Saraki’s eyes, and lost control of himself. And the rest, as they say, is history.

If you believed this before you got here, I’ll advise you to first quietly mail your certificates back to the schools that offered them to you. You obviously don’t deserve them. Shebi you see that we all can write nonsense! �

See conspiracy theory.

Osho just making too much noise. People need jobs, good healthcare as they cannot all travel like Bubu to London, not all this crying over Saraki.

Lol.

omoelerin1:
What book of history of the country will their names be written?
Do you know the names of those who carried out the failed coup that terminated the life of Murtala Muhammed? Where are the names of the plotters of the aborted coup against IBB in 1990, in the book of history?

What's cool and sensible in that?

In Nigeria, serving in the military is voluntary, unlike some other countries. So when you're signing a contract to join the military, you 've already agreed that both your life and death you're going to sacrifice it for your nation. So why looking back? And if you can't cope anymore, then opt out instead of treachery.
Milliary profession is not because you're looking for a job and since you can't get one, you now take it as a job opportunity. It is not for a job seeker, but for anyone who wants to defend and serve his nation with his life.

Did they also sign to fight with barehands, delayed pay and tolerate embezzlement by bosses?

We still remember many April 22 1990 Coup Plotters: Major Gideon Orkar, Lt Echendu (escaped to USA eventually), Major Mukoro, Major Edosa, Major Obanor, Major Dakolo, Lt Henry Ogboru, Lt Obasi, Lt Col Nyiam,Lt Okekumatalo, Lt Okhiafo, etc

From Dimka coup we still remember Bisalla, Aliyu, Ogunmekan, Monchon, Idi, Ribo, Wey, Adamu, Umaru, Afolabi, Wakins, etc.

These must be largely Southern soldiers to be used as shooting targets & cannon fodder for Boko Haram.

Just when you think coup is inconceivable, everything negative just seems possible under Buhari.

BabaRamota1980:
I hope they have not been selling dog meat for consumption.

If you eat in restaurants and on the street, you don eat dog tire.

I just pray I have not been served human meat yet. Too many dubious people around.

Gorem2013:
This is the problem with PDP. Dino that was humiliated out of PDP. Have we forgotten how he was dragged on floor of Hor during Bankole era.

He returned to the same PDP without shame and the only contribution is either to attack Buhari or others. I have not heard anything intelligent from his mouth. Even when he tried to post on social media, the English and spelling are terrible.


PDP change your strategy. What you are doing now is not working

Dude, focus on the message. Did Dino lie in his post? Were those infrastructure provided by APC/ACN/CPC or PDP?

You can later argue that the money used didn't belong to PDP and most reasonable people will agree with you. Though they will equally remind you that the money former APC governor Fashola used in Lagos didn't belong to APC either.

sholatech:
You see..Until he was removed, we didn't hear the Cesspit of corruption happening under him. Let all PMB officials depart and we will be given full blown details of massive corruption on going.

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There is massive corruption happening under Buhari. A man whose jobless son has 50 million Naira motorbikes to play with.
But rob a bank and if you're in APC you're a saint. Time will tell.

Philinho:
Defection giving Oshiomole serious purging

Oyegun who was constantly between a rock and a hard place was able to just about keep things going through diplomacy and maturity.

By not being seen to be running errands for Tinubu or any particular faction of the party. A very thankless and delicate balancing act. A job that can easily discredit any politically ambitious person and create enemies on both sides. Most over-estimate the influence, clout and power of party chairman. Oshiomhole is even over-estimating himself.

FrancisDiote:
The only moral reason men wont date you is ARROGANCE/PRIDE. If you are arrogant just forget it.

Sometimes, you display these qualities unconciously.

Try been HUMBLE and see men beg you for date

I cannot say for sure exactly how her character is BUT it is not about deliberately dropping material stuff. It is the innate stuff that you display. You can cycle or use keke Marwa to work but that will not change your attitude, tone, how considerate or caring you are.

Often the real reason things are not working cannot be said maybe because you are not good at taking correction.
But suffice to say that men are not prolific gold diggers as femi-Nazis want us to believe. If it was the case one of those guys would have stayed with her for the money while still running his normal parole with other babes outside.

ItzBIM:
Not impressed I speak 7 languages

Really? Which languages? Knowing the commitment needed to learn new languages, I respect those who do.

Toketimt:
Only fools will believe this lunatic. He is basically saying buhari/ osinbanjo offered him and his cohorts 2 billion naira to defect. " who is u"?

AK is a very rich state with massive oil money. So money spent on bribing top politicians from AK would be considered a wise investment indeed. To be easily recouped.

You just need to remember how Amaechi used Rivers oil to out-bribe Atiku to win delegates vote for Buhari in the presidential primaries.

Lots of money is changing hands both ways. No biggie.

The long and short of it is that only very few big men in 9ja are sexually disciplined. Women depending on and getting rich through big men is a big economic sector.
Even managers at work, lecturers, senior civil servants, law enforcement and armed forces officers offer promotion, grades and other favours for sex. The more power & control over resources they have, the more they can offer women.

OBJ is no different.

Cool

presentley:
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

People with OCD obsess over thoughts, urges, or images. The things they can’t let go of cause anxiety and their compulsions are an attempt to reduce this anxiety. Cleaning is one obsession most commonly known as simply organising things. People with OCD understand their obsessions don’t make sense but they feel they can’t control them.

They feel they can't control them? Feel? It wasn't supposed to to there in the first place.

It's actually not that rare. If you look well enough enough you will see the symptoms/signs.

In many people it comes in the form of obsession with cleanliness. The was hands excessively, worry seriously about water infection and avoid toilets used by others or over-clean it first. You feel uncomfortable visiting them as they sweep the sand you might have brought into the house, the arrange the house/table repeated, straighten thing out, etc.

Hoarding Syndrome:
People acquire excessive amounts of items and keep them in a chaotic manner, which clutter up the space in the house badly. Without the items having any significant economic value. It can get so bad that family and friends cannot even visit anymore.

Hoarding itself maybe due to other mental health conditions like depression or psychotic condition, etc. Or even due to reduced mobility of the person.

TimeManager:
And What's your worth?..zilch, what has been your relevance?.. zero.. The only relevance you have had is screaming zombie upandan like an hungry cat.
I have been frequenting NL way before 2015 and you weren't in the li[b]st of the few good brains that got my attention neither am I aware of seun ascribe any relevance to you, therefore, you belong to the backseat.. Your bitterness for the current govt remains the only thing that keeps you going, otherwise you would have become a sad tale[/b]. In the end, only a handful of you will survive cos this govt stays till 2023.


kiss the truth!

Bitterness? Why bitter? As someone who briefly met Buhari in person as head of state in 1984 and saw how workers got sacked and parastatals like Radio Nigeria branches were closed down and created joblessness & poverty, I knew what to expect.

My old posts here show my warning to people. Actually I and several others here were well-prepared. Winding down our investment in 9ja or reducing them drastically in expectation of the Naira falling in value. Plus infantile economic policies to come. All our predictions happened, saving ourselves money that would been lost. Our people say a stone seen in time flying towards you cannot blind your eyes.

As for brains, I doubt if someone like you without much brain and a product of failed education system (cramming & regurgitation) can recognize brainy people.

I only pity those who have to eke out a living, survive boko turned herdsmen and more under a regime more concerned about intra-party fight. And your president has to loot Nigerian treasury and travel thousands of miles to enjoy the living standard I take for granted. While you're shuffling like Michael Jackson's Thriller video zombies. kikkikikikikiki.