₦airaland Forum

Ideadoctor:
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Yoruba supremacy is not about military might dude,it is about anciency and it is centered on religion, don't forget if oranmiyan has not been a Royal son in ife he could not have been an Oba in Benin or an alaafin in Oyo... let be logical

Only problem is the whole Oduduwa story get k-leg.
Too many versions and twists. Even Olugbo of Ugbo has his own interesting version.

valirex:
Oni was the chief priest of Ifa from the beginning before Awolowo changed Ooni priesthood into kingship. The ultimate king of Yoruba is Alaffi of Oyo.
The same position of Ooni was the position of Ogiefa of Benin, Ogiefa was the diviners and priest of Efa as Onni is priest of Ifa. Benin call it Efa, Urhobo call it Efa, Igbo call it Afa too, Yoruba call it Ifa.
#Photospeak.

TAO11 Oya come and start wailing

Etrusen
samuk
AreaFada2
gregyboy
Etinosa1234

You know that to cover one lie, you must tell more damning lies. They have been telling more lies to prop up elevation of Ooni since. An Oyo lady first confirmed this to me about 25 years ago.

Of course everyone knows the man is primarily a priest. Alafin appoints Aare Ona Kankanfo, the Military General of Yorubaland. That is the Kankanfo that together with Iyase Ekpenede of Benin Empire, they shared Yorubaland at Otun-Ekiti. The boundary of Oyo and Benin empires. Oyo despite being a junior, shorter duration empire to Benin, we respected them because they did their best on the battle field until Afonja betrayed them to the Fulanis.

lexy2014:
How has he used this "sagacity" while in public office & after to move nigeria forward?

He used it to pocket Lagos money, turn Lagos landlord, brainwash SW to support Buhari, look ayanyan as herdsmen kill hundreds everywhere and now wants the presidency? In a foolish country, sagacity dey pass dat one again?

Asihula:
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Hmmmm.

Sebastine1994:
I brought this issue to nairaland to straighten out some things, as the first son of the family, I am under immense pressure to defend the tradition of igbo.

my sister wants her Traditional Wedding to happen in the City, I have never seen a city traditional marriage, it sound abnormal to the ear, it seems I am the only stumbling block to this marriage. white wedding can happen in the city but not traditional abi?

truth is that most of our families reside in the city, they grew up in the city, and the cost of logistics is their excuse. please is it right that I should allow this to happen?

Nna you are asking mostly city people if it is OK to do trad wedding in the city.
Many here do not know the road to their village.
Your sister can dictate where to do her white or court wedding. Not trad wedding.

Make she kukuma nor do trad wedding.

It is little by little that we jettison culture. Yet we can never be oyinbo. This is from someone who has spent more of his life with oyinbo than with ndi dudu.
I don't know why the nyanga people dey form these days.

Samsimple:
I thought they have ended this SCAMvid in Nigeria. Hogwash

Check my signature

I guess the generals felt like you until it got them.
Covid-19 is real. Take it from someone who knows.
Joke with Covid-19 at your own peril.

valirex:
That guy knows nothing, when the Ọba went to Osun to see the Osun State governor.
The ooni of Ife acted as a priest and used his own mouth to cut a fowl's neck while the Ọba sat back and relaxed.
If they know anything let them explain why this occurred

Valirex I dey suspect you o. You know exactly what happened as an eye witness narrated. Oba cannot be drawn into such fable that doesn't concern Benin when Ooni is doing his actual work: being a juju priest.
If you know you know.

Ok sir, you need to return there for another 20 years so that you can be much, much of a better person.

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gimbayaro:
I remembered when the north ganged up against Jonathan because of chibok girls, now it’s happening worse than what happened in Jonathan’s government, but the hypocrites are still supporting buhari... they are all fanatics

The North own does not surprise me. We already know their agenda.
Soyinka and others in SW and entire South who used their integrity to sell Buhari to the Masses nko?

Netanya:
Sadly , there will be a time when whites will stop having anything to do with Nigerians . I hope he's not doing this 'cos of the Green card .

Well, one black girl currently laughing at and criticising the groom will later benefit from the green card. By then she won't know what he went through to get it.

The groom represents millions from countries from the Southern hemisphere and beyond.

If you know, you know.

Fvckhypocrite:
Look at them both apc & pdp go hear am come 2023
See how tinubu is running upandan just for 2023 ambition if he knw what is good for him he should just sitdan bcoz he go smell pepper if he contest, is better he drop one of his boy than going personally.

And to those of una shouting yoruba muslim upandan should understand that the yorubas can never be divided with one yeye foreign religion we put our culture first b4 religion, an average yoruba do not see any difference between muslim and christian we believe that both muslim and christian are serving one god muslim+christian+traditional = one yoruba

Although i knw that some muslim minority are supporting fulanis base on their selfish interest and religion but that doesn't mean we should generalize by saying all yoruba muslim
Infact as an yoruba man if christmas come we go chop tgether, if salah come we go jolly, if traditional festive period come again na to chop together so we knw our selves as one yoruba not as muslim or christian.
Ciao.
cc sammy07

And that's the problem. We all in the South had that problem before.

What you see is one. What others see and their agenda is another. You have no influence on it. Has Yoruba belief that we all serve one God stopped the North from bringing Sharia to disturb OBJ regime? No. Did it stop Boko Haram insurgence? Does it stop Northern kidnappers and killers rampaging in SW and all over South?
What you believe can make you blind to what others are doing before it is too late.
There was a time we believed a Nigerian would never die for religion because we like to flex too much. How wrong we were.

It may begin with Hijab issue in Osun, then another elsewhere. Don't believe you can speak for all SW people o. Outside influence can change things.
Adebolaja beheaded a soldier in the street of London. UK. In the name of religion. Outside influence trumped his Yoruba heritage.

uncleteeh:
Still on it. You too can patronise us.

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What's the location of this project?

Dimensions, proposed budget?

ArinzeAnthony03:
This is fake news. North is safe than any part of the country.

This is not like GEJ govt that allowed the press to operate freely. If Chibok case had happened under Buhari regime, they would have denied it and later admit that may be 10 to 20 were missing.

In life people should always be careful what they wished for.

I keep saying that Grace follows GEJ.

Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.

The Beatitudes in the Book of Matthew is something to take seriously beside the Ten Commandment when living your life.

Etinosa1234:
Now as it is, it seems that my Yoruba friend obviously has no facts concerning the treaty he keeps shouting about. But must we keep being in the dark abt a treaty our friend here doesn’t know about?
As it stands, unless proven otherwise, of all the Europeans who visited benin city, there is no account that makes mention of a superior king in benin kingdom apart from the Omo n’oba n’edo. This casts first doubt at the spurious claims made by a certain Richard Arisco Osemwingie who parades himself as the ogiamen.
When the Europeans first came to benin,they were brought to the oba of benin who was perceived by all as the king and the owner of all the land. They were NOT brought to the ogiamen who himself resides in benin kingdom. This squashes the weak claim that the ogiamen is the superior of the land. When an prominent or international person visits a place, their first visit is the ruler of the land visited. From Ewuare who was visited by the first Portuguese explorer Ruy Sequeira in 1472 to the Ralph Moor who led the benin invasion. They all noted the Oba of benin as the superior leader of the land. Not a fake person that claims to be collecting rent and was satisfied with it for 800+ years. An early European account that talks about how the oba of benin is powerful says

The oba is so powerful that he can amass up to 10,000 soldiers in a day… This shows how powerful the oba was compared to a chief who is just trying to seek relevance today by claiming to have collected rent from the oba

Having debunked the first claim of the ogiamen being a superior to the oba of which he isn’t, we move to the next point to be broken
Now the first time the word ekiokpagha was heard was in Jacob Egharevba’s book titled “Short history of Benin” where he writes

^{The ogiamen was pursued and defeated at Ekiokpagha where he surrendered and made peace with the oba}

The build-up to this story was that prior to the coming of oranmiyan, Evian son of Eholo Nire was made an administrator of benin kingdom. When he got old, he tried to install his son Ogiamen Erebo as king. This angered the chiefs who went to ife to bring oranmiyan. Oranmiyan came and left his child eweka.
When Eweka came of age, he was made king by the uzama nihiron. This angered ogiamen who raised up an army to fight against the king. He lost, surrendered and made peace with the king. There is no other conflicting accounts other than the ones the liars are throwing around for the gullible ones like u to believe.
Point no 2; Debunked!!!!!!

Now we move to the next point.

In Benin, before the use of surnames in Africa, the benin had a way of tracing family lineage and origin. This was the use of family greeting .It was said to have been started by Ogiso Ogbomo
Every indigenous benin family have their own peculiar greeting. The ogiso descendants greet delaiso. The ogiamen greet laire (this shows they are descendants of eholo nire). The Iyase family greet lavbieze, The ero family greet lamosun, the Obas descendants greet lamogun and so on. So when u want to lie that the oba is surpressing the aborigines,u would have to tell us the difference between the aborigines and the foreigners in benin kingdom since u tend to believe in your stupidity cum ignorance.
Also, this family greeting have also come to point out that the Ogiamen is not a direct descendant of the Ogisos as opposed to what u believed mischievously.

Now having debunked another of ur weak claim as to who are the aborigines of benin, we move to the next lie

According to false claim by Richard the fake ogiamen, we get to the point where he said that the treaty put a demarcation on benin land at Ekiopagha while collecting rent from the leased land. The first question a sane mind will ask is

a) if the land sold was benin land, what was extent of the remaining land not sold thereby under ogiamen influence?

b)Are there any accounts oral or written abt the history of the ogiamen kingdom?

Sadly the answers to the question is simply weak, non-existent and false.
Presently, the ogiamen doesn’t have influence in their area in sakponba road talk less of the benin kingdom at large unlike the oba of benin… This trashes another weak claim that there was ever a demarcation at benin land

Now having said all this, how do they intend to sanction the oba for not obeying a false and non-existent treaty?.. maybe jneutron from far away osogbo can help lmao
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Valirex samuk areafada2 etrusen gregyboy

Dude, look these people are not worth enlightening at all. If you surgically implant facts into their brain, it still won't help them.

They were fed too much propaganda and made to beat their chest as suffersticated and over-educated that they wallow in ignorance. You have same situation in Europe and America. The masses there assume that they know it all that their ignorance about Africa is shocking.

Envious entities from the SW (usually most are Tapa or other immigrants to SW) should help Ogiamie family locate the missing Chief Osarobo Ogiamie (the real Ogiamie) instead of foolishly quoting the impostor called Arisco.
If Osarobo is found and he asks for mercy, loyally resumes his obligations to the Palace like making Oba's stool (Ekete), the palace may, on account of the honour of his ancestor Evian, pardon his errant ways.

When outsiders start supporting the impostor and pariah Arisco against Benin people, then it's obvious they are clear enemies.

TinubuGoQuench:
If you are a broke guy, girls will frown at you when your eyes meet theirs but if you are financially loaded, watch how they will act very nice to you.
Some won't even mind sleeping with you the next minute.
Those girls in your area who don't greet you will automatically start greeting you with utmost respect the day they see you driving a nice car
I only help elderly women
I don't help young ladies except you are related to me by blood
They are only after financial gains
Idiots!

The prayers of those old folks who have been through trials and tribulations and still standing get Power well well. Just like giving to kids. Keep it up dude. You are giving and expecting nothing back. That is how it should be.

TinubuGoQuench:
If you are a broke guy, girls will frown at you when your eyes meet theirs but if you are financially loaded, watch how they will act very nice to you.
Some won't even mind sleeping with you the next minute.
Those girls in your area who don't greet you will automatically start greeting you with utmost respect the day they see you driving a nice car
I only help elderly women
I don't help young ladies except you are related to me by blood
They are only after financial gains
Idiots!

The prayers of those old folks who have been through trials and tribulations and still standing get Power well well. Keep it up dude. You are giving and expecting nothing back. That is how it should be.

JoeEeL:
Some of you just foolishly believe you can hustle in your youth and build one or two small houses where you'll be easily collecting rent in old age. Then the rest in the country can f*ck off while you spread your legs in your verandah chopping cool breeze.

Y'all just want to play it safe. Hustle huge, be a bit smarter than the rest, enjoy rent proceeds till death. Well, this is the rude awakening.

In the end, bad government affects us all. Your lamentation is similar to that of 80% of landlords anyways. If there are millions of houses and 80% of citizens barely live under $2 per day, what magic do we really expect?

Many middle-class people think they can simply out-hustle the system and give not too much f*cks about the state of governance. Well, you have your answer.

Let us all once and for all learn to face the elephant in the room, instead of always trying to cut corners, find appiah way, bend bend, manoeuvre, barely survive etc.

Nor be small thing o.
Especially those ones who know that only a very big miracle will make them be landlord, dem nor send.

sylve11:
No evil ever came from a woman’s womb that wasn’t placed there first by a man.

OK na male serpent deceive Eve in Eden, bah?
And you were there to witness it.

Shifting blame is a very popular hobby. Lie Mohammed has even made a career out of it.

femi4:
Already used his hunchback for money

No thanks to Nollywood and their brainwashed movies

Nollywood just mostly mirrors reality and misconceptions out there. They show funny people like Mr Ibu. But there is no explosion of funny people about town.

It is not what goes into a man that defiles him that which comes from within him.

The heart of man is desperately wicked.

The Bible said both long ago.

valirex:
Shut up and tell that priest to pay homage.
Oni is not a king but a priest and Alafin is his king and the Ọba of Benin is their emperor.
So Mr man FEM

Do not mind these idiots. Those pictures there, I had people in the entourages of Oba Erediauwa and Ewuare II. Oba Erediauwa came to ancestral family home during his thank you visit across Nigeria in 1981. He visited us before going outside Bendel state of that time. The visit went all the way to Sokoto and Brass. Across Nigeria.

Oba Ewuare II did same. What they forget is that as at Oba Akenzua visit, Bendel was still part of Western Region. So Oba as member of Western House in Ibadan was often in the area. Only normal that he visited monarchs in the wider area.

You know better anyway.
They want to attach to Benin for ego massage. Do you see them having sleepless night over Emir of Zazau, Tor Tiv or any other monarch?

Don't join issues with the yabaleft cross dresser. She rolls in the mud. Don't let her drag you to her dirty level.

Samuk
Valirex
Etimosa123456
Gregyboy
Ghostwon

valirex:
Shut up and tell that priest to pay homage.
Oni is not a king but a priest and Alafin is his king and the Ọba of Benin is their emperor.
So Mr man FEM

Do not mind these idiots. Those pictures there, I had people in the entourages of Oba Erediauwa and Ewuare II. Oba Erediauwa came to ancestral family home during his thank you visit across Nigeria in 1981. He visited us before going outside Bendel state of that time. The visit went all the way to Sokoto and Brass. Across Nigeria.

Oba Ewuare II did same. What they forget is that as at Oba Akenzua visit, Bendel was still part of Western Region. So Oba as member of Western House in Ibadan was often in the area. Only normal that he visited monarchs in the wider area.

You know better anyway.
They want to attach to Benin for ego massage. Do you see them having sleepless night over Emir of Zazau, Tor Tiv or any other monarch.

Don't join issues with the yabaleft cross dresser. She rolls in the mud. Don't let her drag you to her dirty level.

Samuk
Valirex
Etimosa123456
Gregyboy
Ghostwon

valirex:
Shut up and tell that priest to pay homage.
Oni is not a king but a priest and Alafin is his king and the Ọba of Benin is their emperor.
So Mr man FEM

Do not mind these idiots. Those pictures there, I had people in the entourages of Oba Erediauwa and Ewuare II. Oba Erediauwa came to ancestral family home during his thank you visit across Nigeria in 1981. He visited us before going outside Bendel state of that time. The visit went all the way to Sokoto and Brass. Across Nigeria.
Oba Ewuare II did same. What they forget is that as at Oba Akenzua visit, Bendel was still part of Western Region. So Oba as member of Western House in Ibadan was often in the area. Only normal that he visited monarchs in the wider area.
You know better anyway.
They want to attach to Benin for ego massage. Do you see them having sleepless night over Emir of Zazau, Tor Tiv or any other monarch.
Samuk
Valirex
Etimosa123456
Gregyboy
Ghostwon

isan:
Where is the excavation report ? Who sanction it ? In Yoruba land we deal with fact and the fact is that your ancestor skull is rotting away in in ile Ife

So you cannot find out?
You talk of Yorubaland as if you know it better than me.
Admit if you cannot find out and ask politely. Then I might give you details.
I saw the cross dresser disputing the fact of 7 black cows. I have a publication in which late Ooni of Ife admitted it but was shy to explain why. If it was for a reason that he would be proud of he would have. But we already know why. But since the cross dresser just wants to confuse people, I won't pay her any attention.. If you are not too lazy you will even find it in some of my posts over the years.
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If in Yorubaland you deal with facts as you say, where are the facts of Oduduwa climbing chain from heaven, teleporting from Israel, Yemen, Egypt, Nubia, Saudi Arabia or wherever?

No part of Nigeria can bend the truth and shift facts and legends more than Yorubaland. You should know better. Hausa, Igbo and everyone else won't rely on Yoruba or Ya. riba, meaning unreliable by Muslims.

A fact that made Ijebu reject Yoruba as a tag for a long time. There are things SW people are good at. But consistency with truth is not one of them. That is why they are good with politics. It has no truth. Everything can bend.

We are in this same mere geographical expression as Awo called Nigeria. So do not let us pretend about ourselves.

tesppidd:
APC should be wise and stop allowing politicians of very little political value like Amaechi, Fayemi and El Rufai to dictate events in the party.

If Tinubu pulls out of APC with his people, they wouldn't be able to defeat PDP in anything.

Well Amaechi bought delegates that gave Buhari 2015 ticket with plane-load of Rivers money as governor. His money was of high political value then, bah?

Amaechi sef na one effeminate mumu. Whatever those slime balls that talk from two sides of their mouth use him to do he deserves it. If it's Ogun owo let them use him to do it.

isan:
There's is no excavation carried out ... Where is the excavation report ?

The problem I have with you people is that you guys want to be spoon-fed. I have done too much of that here since 2011. Move your ass dude and do some work.

Let me add another homework for you. The Ooni has to slaughter 7 black cows anytime he visits Benin City. Did you notice that he didn't go to Benin to pay dowry on his ex-wife Ms Zainab Obanor? A man that visits people in their houses and frequent birthday parties didn't go to pay bride price on his own wife, instead his father went. Before anyone offers another rubbish explanation that it is Yoruba culture to send their father to do it, I know better. They married from us. Though 95% went on to father kids all over the place, everywhere work took them, and the marriages broke down years later. Only to come begging later. That is another story.

The 7 black cows get why and we know why. I have long rubbished the excuse that it is because he will cross 7 hills and 7 rivers before reaching Benin City. Now tell me, when he gallivants to Brazil to see Yoruba descendants of people that sold themselves into slavery, how many hills and rivers are there before reaching Brazil? Does he kill 30 or 50 black cows before going to Brazil?

Ghostwon
Etinosa123456
Valirex
Gregyboy
Samuk
Sarah20A

isan:
The skull of your Benin kings are still roting away in ile ife

Only that on excavation, no goat skull was even found there, let alone human skull.

That lie was busted long long ago.

People who form being suffersticated and over-educated suddenly don't accept archaeological excavation findings.
valirex
Ghostwon
gregyboy
Etinosa123456
Sarah20A
Samuk

valirex:
Onni of Ife should not forget to pay his tribute to the only Ọba on Earth, Ọba of Benin tu gha tọ

Hahahaha!

You want jobless bald headed vultures to begin masturbating again.

Na full time job for some people o, with cross-dressing as side hustle.

valirex:
Onni of Ife should not forget to pay his tribute to the only Ọba on Earth, Ọba of Benin tu gha tọ

Hahahaha!

You want jobless bald head vultures to begin masturbating again.

jawalis:
who Else is on the same page with me?

She be like the type wey do Abacha strong thing with apples.

porthouse7:
my uncle is above 50 and he's on d forum

I nor argue am. Thank God we have some mature people here.

Otherwise Jambites too many here.