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Balogunodua:
The question is... .what is the meaning of Oba in Edo language?

It has been dissected here since over nearly decade here. Read my extensive writing on it from old post. Meaning of Oba in Edo is no secret. It was used in ogiso time already. Long long before Eweka l dynasty.

Basher8583:
Fvck off igbo migrant. No one has time for your bigotry.
And for your information in a Northerner but get irritated by this childish bigotry

You are a Northern confusionist on Taqqiya mission to deceive SW people as usual.

The guy said the truth. We see why you Northerners and most in SW want no restructuring. Let Fulani return to Funta Jallon, Niger and Chad first then we talk of who is a migrant.
Agadez007

agadez007:
Remove Oyo,Ekiti and Osun from that list
Those states according to Nairaland Afonja team are the richest in Nigeria nay Africa

So we see why SW cannot be serious with restructuring or fiscal federalism. When half the states in your region are like this, unity begging for oil money must be your avowed cause. Talk of favouring regionalism is the usual talking from both sides of the mouth.

Whereas agriculture could rescue these states if not standing akimbo waiting for oil money.

Etinosa1234:
If u are really from Epe, yeah... Benin never ruled over Epe.. it mainly had influence over old Lagos...
The First reports that supports Benin influence over old Lagos was the report by Josua Ulsheimer whom someone is trying to deny by saying he was lied to by the Benins who were there as at then.. But if Josua Ulsheimer happened to be lied to as a report being written 200 years later said, then can someone explain how Benin got to have influence over the ruling dynasty of Lagos...

The First sign of influence over Lagos was the letter written by Oba Akitoye to the British where he clearly stated that the Benin had the undisputed authority to choose the next Oba...

Secondly, when his letter was not granted and finally deposed, Oba kosoko who became the next Oba was approached on abolishing the slave trade, Oba kosoko replied that Lagos was under the Oba of Benin and it was only the Oba that was able to deal with foreign issues

Thirdly, when kosoko successfully repulsed a British attack, consul Beecroft wrote to the Benin that kosoko had to surrender .. which talks abt the Benin influence

Lastly, when In 1860, Kosoko persuaded the Oba of Benin to send messages to Dosunmu pressing him to allow Kosoko's return to Lagos. Dosunmu, now under British authority, refused this request and noted that things were "not as in former times when Lagos was under the King of Benin to whom annually a tribute was paid

Don't allow ur self be deceived by people that only know how to write

AreaFada2
Samuk
Gregyboy
Edeyoung

Your history of Lagos is spot on. Epe was of no use to Benin.. Benin was not looking for Lebensraum to grow. We needed trade corridor and access to sea or Lagos to allow two pronged military movement. Especially under the sailor King Orhogbua. He had learned at the Royal Military Academy in Lisbon how the Portuguese used navigation to excel both militarily and commercially.

Etinosa1234:
For someone to spend all her resources even travel abroad just to try to bring down another person history, it tells a lot...

I don't think she expended this kind of energy on Yoruba- Igbo, Yoruba -Nupe, Yoruba -Fulani... The only way she'll do so is if they had contact with Benin

Most Benin people and foreigners already know how great Benin kingdom was ...
The foreigners who saw our works marvelled,

Al-Jazeera compared our Benin to London as at then and said it was better than london , BBC did reports on our culture, the first foreigners (Ruy de Sequeira)known in Southern Nigeria came to Benin in 1472 during Ewuare, The Dutch came and were impressed

R.E. Bradbury researched our culture, Bondarenko spends time on our culture

We even had an embassy in Lisbon as at 15th century... It's only normal to have people jealous abt it. People are only jealous abt what they don't have.. so they'll either find away to trash it or associate with it...

Engaging with her was good tho... It made me know more abt my culture ... Prior to that , all I knew was the invasion and our works being stolen...
After ,then I found out that Benin had influence over present day Edo-delta states up to parts of Ondo, Lagos, Anambra, Kogi... It's normal to have people dedicate their entire life to trash it... Imagine, a whole minority tribe with such great history... Its enough to create jealousy Na..

The funny part is that due to the fact that she can access more info abt our culture due to where she stay, she will only tell us abt the part of our culture that favors her or deny vehemently abt the part that exalts Benin culture..... If we should get hold of the books she quotes at times, we'll see many things that praise the Benin culture

Having seen how great my culture is, I'm planning to visit the library in my area so that I can learn more abt my history...

Benin is so broad that it isn't covered by one historian......

Oba gha t'okpere

Dude I have been educating her predecessors since 2011. With PhysicsQED who stopped coming on Nairaland many years ago. Manuscripts on Benin history were written in my presence as a kid. So nothing they can offer that I have not seen dissected before.

Our people are in Bayelsa. Yenagoa indigenes are Edo people. Degema and many Rivers people are Edo. The Amayanabor clearly said it when Oba Ewuare II Rivers. The video is here on Nairaland.

Edoid languages are 22. A 23rd one is still debated.
Igede people of Benue State are Edo people. They even left Benin fairly late, in 1515.

Etinosa1234:
Its because they are engaging her... Let it stop and watch her fall into depression

Exactly. I stopped long ago.

samuk:
Agbor people of Delta state bears Obaze.

Since Yoruba centered their relationship with Benin around Ife, most part of our debate should be centred around Benin/Ife relationship because most other parts of Yoruba were under Benin colonial rule.

Let's the true Ife people come out to defend the Benin/Ife relationship, not descendants of former Benin colonial subjects or descendants of slaves that were returned back to Nigeria by the white man.

You will hardly find an Ife indigine on these thread because the Ife they are defending here was created on paper and have nothing to do with reality.

Modakeke people next door to Ife will tell you even better. It is among distant Yoruba desperately seeking connecting with ur-people of the area that created Ife as Yoruba home. Slave returnees largely. Proper Oyo people won't even buy into that nonsense.

It is the biggest coc,k and bull story so far.

Etinosa1234:
Also to add..

Etsako - Obano - its the king that they ask

Its because we don't have equal disposal of info... Those books that she enjoys quoting, if we do it back for, she fit not sleep well...

She knows abt Benin greatness that's why she goes all out to find a way to rub sand on it...

Don't u see how this thread gives her more joy than in real life

One third of all of ladies never get orgasm. Perhaps she's one of the one-third and imagining things with Edo boys here on Nairaland is her only secret orgasm drug. Especially with the cross dressing.
Gregyboy you are making someone wet with reckless abandon.

RIP.

gregyboy:
Are you aware esan bear names like obazee

Are you also aware edo tribe are offshoot of benin, so why are you sounding retarded and exhausted


According to the false myth, after the ogiso dynasty came oba dynasty from ife, it was during the oba dynasty that esan migrated at of benin and other edo tribes were sprung, so this means if we are to go with the fakse myth all edo tribe should be aware of the title oba


The screenshot is an urhobo name having oba


https://maternitynest.com/nigerian-baby-names-urhobo-names-boys/


Nextlife if you here gregyboy you go move


Etinosa1234
Davidnazee
Prolog
Ghostwon
AreaFada2
Samuk
Valirex
Davidnazee

Dude, you should have been a vet or a shrink. You have so much patience. Even I won't have so much patience with the cross dresser.

Is there anyone who does not know that most Edoid people left during Oba Ewuare I reign and later during reigns of the other 4 major warrior Kings Ozolua, Esigie, Orhogbua and Ehengbuda? With only few leaving in the pre-imperial times?

gregyboy:
Are you aware esan bear names like obazee

Are you also aware edo tribe are offshoot of benin, so why are you sounding retarded and exhausted


According to the false myth, after the ogiso dynasty came oba dynasty from ife, it was during the oba dynasty that esan migrated at of benin and other edo tribes were sprung, so this means if we are to go with the fakse myth all edo tribe should be aware of the title oba


The screenshot is an urhobo name having oba


https://maternitynest.com/nigerian-baby-names-urhobo-names-boys/


Nextlife if you here gregyboy you go move


Etinosa1234
Davidnazee
Prolog
Ghostwon
AreaFada2
Samuk
Valirex
Davidnazee

Dude, you should have been a vet or a shrink. You have so much patience. Even I won't have so much patience with the cross dresser.
Is there anyone who does not know that most Edoid people left during Oba Ewuare I reign and later during reigns of the other 4 major warrior Kings Ozolua, Esigie, Orhogbua and Akengbuda? With only few leaving in the pre-imperial times?

Notatribalist:
This story does not make sense.. What I understand about witchcraft is that they need to be asleep before they go to coven..Now the question is when he was taken to the family house did they meet his other body sleeping?

Exactly. He cannot wake up from bed until his winch spirit don reenter the body. Na so we dey hear am all these years.
So is his real body still sleeping in his house right now?
9ja we just dey believe and do things anyhow.

Aboks:
The ways of abokis are different from other nigerians

Until the French Normans conquered England in 1066, the English did not use surnames.
It would be John from York or Peter from Winchester, etc.

Among Africans use of surname is relatively new too. It came with colonialism properly.

With Islam Africans began using X ibn Y, Y bint Z for a daughter or A Dan B, M bin N, etc.

So I guess up North affiliation to city or town of origin was perhaps for some still important.

Remember too that aristocrats or founders do historically bear names of their domains or even founded towns and gave their name to the villages or towns in the beginning. Their descendants can still be bearing such names. Some at least.

Fierypreacher:



A failed failing failure of a governor wants to run for 2023 presidential election?

Are you kidding me?

Maybe he wants to run as an errand boy. Certainly not as a presidential candidate.


It is even a crime for Yahaya Bello to signify interest.

Well if a dead man can rule this country, how much more the living though a capital failure.

The guy might have a better chance than you think. He will claim to be partly Yoruba. Northern establishment could support such an idiot.
As Nigeria is now, we will keep getting worse leaders. Because let's face it, the masses are also worse now. We produce more criminals, more corrupt politicians and leaders. So it would be foolish or unrealistic to expect better people at the top.

Ventura1:
DSS, Lai Muhammed, Femi Adesina and Garba Shehu are yet to react to Sultan of Sokoto statement that "North Is The Worst Place To Live, Bandits Now Go Into People’s Home "

Fear nor let them. Dem too small. Of course the Sultan is right. An erupting volcano will bury land around it first before far away places. It is the North that took home ants infested firewood. They should expect the most lizards in their house.

They began right wing religious ways under OBJ govt. It got out of control under Yar'Adua and got worse and worse even since.
Even the term Black Friday is forbidden in Kano now.

The South is suffering collateral damage. Collateral that should never happen even.

Sarah20A:
is just as if Benin is the air they breathe so without Benin they would die

Before nko? Na their air o.

Because in 9ja tribal supremacy and dominance is the point of Wazobia. And only little crude oil is found in Wazobia zone. So they need supremacy to corner oil money. Oil money is air, water and food that keeps 9ja alive.

Benin is ultimate battle front of supremacy for them.

gregyboy:
They were hapoy thier language is gonna be used in brazil that same brazil presented ooni of ife in brazil queen idias head

As big as quora we just have two pictures for african art the benin artworks and Egyptian artworks

A Kenyan guy i spoke to when i posted the oba of benin pics on whatsapp amongst other yoruba monarch he singled handedly pointed out the oba picture and said he was familiar with his dress from bbn that very day i knew bbnaija was global

Lol@Queen Idia head.
If not for tribal politics it would be a good thing to present to Ooni.
Afterall Benin is his ancestral home. Nothing demeaning or inferior about it. I do not see Oba of Lagos or Olu of Warri or the many monarchs that descend from ancient Benin as inferior.
Windsor ruling house of UK are Germans. Both Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip are German blood. But they are not inferior to Germans.

I don't watch bbn or any lazy show, but Benin culture pops up everywhere.

gregyboy:
The ooni of ife who changed his title from sir adesuji to oba

Ooni the copy cat

Chai! It has tey that copy and paste started. Even before computer age.

gregyboy:
Bro you dont mean it

Of course.
If you go to BBC website called bitesize, you will see BBC animation of daily life in Benin Kingdom to teach British kids about African history.

Their 9ja parents that Nigeria tribal education system miseducated are left baffled. Because tribal education politics already in Western region and continuing with universal basic education WAZOBIA doctrine relegated Benin history. These parents who grew up with population supremacy ego just can't get why "oyinbo carry tiny Benin history for head". So they think oyinbo are not well informed about Africa to know that WAZOBIA are the important tribes. They think oyinbo just saw a few arts in museums and got confused. They don't realise their gargantuan tribalism induced ignorance.

But Europeans who saw it first hand 500 years ago know better.

Samuk
Etinosa1234
Ghostwon
Valirex
Sarah20A

gregyboy:
Yorubas can never leave benin alone

In the next life benin would not know anything like yoruba infact benin would be in asia while yoruba would still remain in the zoo with their fulani superheroes

They are just pest to our history

Etinosa1234
Davidnazee
Prolog
Ghostwon
AreaFada2
Sarah20A
Valirex

Bros, you have heard of gold rush in many historical writings. Have you ever heard of "San San" rush? No, because it is gold that has value.
The reason everybody wants to claim Benin or Benin arts is because they are intrigued by it.

Even abroad, their kids learn of Benin history at school before age of 8. They will come home asking "dad, are we Benin?" Because Benin was the topic chosen in African history.
Imagine how that question makes haters para.

If Benin people had said we are same people, they would use it to imply Benin is part of them. Then we would all be great friends. The cross dresser digging papers from 100km underground and sleepless nights would be now be smiling like Christmas goat at Benin boys. By now computer screen have probably so much messed up her eyes that her lenses are thicker than Donald Trump's bomb proof Beast Limousine windows.

She brought out the picture of someone, if that guy is truly who she says he is, his head shows he has serious brain matter for intelligence. I know what I mean. I have compared people's achievements book-wise to cranial anatomy when they are "no more with us".

Let him compare that guy to Tinubu, OBJ, Aregbesola and tell us more about handsomeness.

Gregyboy
Samuk
Etinosa1234
Valirex
Ghostwon
Sarah20A

gregyboy:
Now this only proves terracotta is not unique to yorubas not ife, i mean yorubas, because ife didnt Make artworks they purchased them

Now the styles of the terrocotta is in the style of benin and it does not show any semblance with anything ife

Terracotta head is just a mud made sculpture and nothing unique, over here in benin the people still mold with muld

Ife never made any sculpture but rather they bought sculpture from artisans
Etinosa1234
AreaFada2
Samuk
Valirex
Ghostwon
Davidnazee


Dont be decieved

Even owo had terracotta heads and the owo terrocotta heads had theseme semblance with ife terracotta so how come that of benin is now different this only shows that owo and ife purchased thesame artwork and practice thesame culture of havingthem buried

You might as well go and argue with the lots at "Uselu in". Despite their pathology, they will reason better than the repetitive cross dresser masquerading as a historian.

Eye don dey clear, nyanga don dey finish.

When young take serious guys/girls seriously.

The right spouse material can come at any time. Not necessarily when you choose.

OK
People should beware of 419 though.

brain54:
I stand to be corrected on this but I think African tradition is gradually going to oblivion in preference for the Western style of doing things. one such example is in the area of communication were African elders were known for having a unique way of expressing themselves with words laced with wisdom. here is a compilation of my favorite African proverbs/wise saying from elders.
1. the tongue cannot claim to be ignorant of what the teeth is chewing.
2. until a woman marries twice she will not know which is better.
3. no matter the height of a camel the owner knows how to ride it.
4. if an abomination is committed for too long it becomes a tradition.
5. the Royal sculptor cannot make a mortar from plantain.
6. if the eye claims to be watching then let it narrate what the mouth said.
7. that a person is wealthy does not mean that he consumes more salt than his neighbours.
8. when the vulture takes a bath it becomes more ugly.
9. salt is never infested with worms.
10. a farm is not abandoned because it is full of weed.
11. it is other people's children that are sent on late night errands.
12. the day a debtor beats up his creditor is the day the debt is settled.
13. it is a foolish dog that barks at what the lion saw and ran away.
14. the hawk that picked the tortoise for dinner will go to be with an empty stomach.
15. a decaying plantain says it is ripening.
16. an idle person is recognized by the way he ties his wrapper.
17. sorry does not heal a wound but it can clean it.
18. a single finger cannot remove lice from the head.
19. one cannot predict the temper of the chick in the egg.
20. the meat that one forbids one cannot divide with his teeth.
21. a person that wants to tell a lie will say that his witness is in a distant town.
22. no matter how one threats a sleeping child when he wakes he would look for his mother.
23. a child is crying because his mother went to the market. what will an orphan child do?
24. if one does not eat beans he can't excrete beans.
25. it is because of the big bush meat that the hunter sews a big bag.
26. one doesn't pick his eyes same way he does his nose.
27. the nose doesn't perceive its own odour.
28. a soldier who survives a war boasts that his charm were effective.
29. it is a vain boast, a termite cannot devour or destroy a rock.
30. flies cannot support any other person if the person with sore is around.
31. it is easier to wake up a man sleeping than one pretending to sleep.
32. no matter how white the lizard's excreta may be it must have a dark spot.
33. neither the person who rushes or the person who walks slowly but steadily will sleep on the road.
34. the palm nut which ripens on a path way is for everyone to pluck.
35. an old woman who sells rotten fish recognises a blind fly.
36. a goat that keeps the company of a dog soon learns how to eat excreta.
37. one does not construct a palm oil factory simply because of one ripe palm tree.
38. a face is not washed with peppery water.
39. it is the finger that fits into the nose that is used to pick it.
40. a person should not seek to out-laugh he who lost his lips in a laughing contest.
feel free to add yours!

Nice.

DaInferno:
what's her intent, was she planning to cook and sell or do rituals; cus I don't think I can even go out to eat no more!

I have been saying that if you live in 9a cities and frequently eat in restaurants and bukaterias, you CANNOT beat your chest and say you have not eaten human meat.

First of all many will do anything for money. They can kill to sell as meat.

Some can accidentally kill and sell as meat pieces to destroy the evidence.

There are also many mental health cases that families try to hide because of stigma.

Those who have eaten human flesh (cannibals) say it's not different from pork. In 9ja when fried, it won't be different from cow much. Especially an older lady like that.

DoubleDee4U:
But corpses for embalming in morgues do not wear clothes and caps. How come this one is wearing clothes and cap?

Read where they wrote......speaking from hospital........

Obviously he was transferred to hospital after screaming in pain where media now went to see for themselves na.

donbachi:
Only GOD knows how many abokis dem don bury like dis.

Not only in the North o.

How many people in 9ja can even do basic resuscitation? Even in hospitals how many vital sign monitoring machines dey?

Especially elderly people declared dead at home? They will just save money to do lavish burials than take them to hospital.

His own good. How many youths can boast of 20 years old kids by age 61 in the future?

The one 40 year olds still dey parents house, no job so?

Standing5:
He decentralizes responsibilities but gets dictatorial when it is time for cake cutting.

The guy na first class blame distributor.
Ask him how he has empowered mothers since 2015 he will be looking ayanyan or blame women for not asking for help.

Charleys:
Gowon ruled for 9 years, he must have anticipated what will happen. A coup, And stock up for the rainy day.

They forget how all connected the Tugendhats are.

It's no secret Murtala and others were fed up with Gowon. He had been there for too long and corruption had crept in. He was just too comfortable being in power. It was like Shagari govt where coup was widely expected on October first 1983 and was a surprise it did not happen.

Moferere:
Despite being rejected by his people, only God knows why Buhari still owe Amaechi to a high esteem.

Amaechi literally bought APC delegates in Lagos held presidential primaries before 2015 election. He came with a plane load of Rivers State looted money. People who were there live confirmed it. Remember Buhari didn't have more than 150 gay never increasing herd of cows back then.

Buhari owes him big time. To the detriment of Rivers people of course.
Effeminate Amaechi keeps malice like a woman.

1Alex:
So this play is the beating of his life eh?

By the way, SA matter no concern me. To hell with them.

Buhahahaha.

Those xenophobic goons.