₦airaland Forum

zionmade1:
I once asked an IPOB youth a question
How are Igbos oppressed? and
How does it affect them negatively?
there is no state in Nigeria Igbos living their are not doing very well most time better then their hosts.
In every single state from Kaduna to kastina to Zamfara to Sokoto to Kebbi mention it, Igbos have at least 2 big markets where everyone knows that they dominate there.
Igbos occupy up to one LGA in Kano, plateau, benue etc. In Lagos Igbos have so many streets and estates named after them
So tell me exactly how are Igbos oppressed in this country on what negative effect does it have on them

Let me put it this way. Scotland is part of the UK which is the 5th richest country in 5th world. Scotland is Region, controls its resources, it well treated in the UK and are doing very well.

But Scotland still agitated to leave Britain and got a referendum in 2014. So why would Scotland want to leave a rich country where they have everything?

The answer is independence. Scotland wanted to be in control of Scotland.

So it doesnt matter if Igbos are oppressed or well treated in Nigeria, if the Igbo nation decide that they want to be an independent nation from Nigeria, it is their God given right.

Greenthumb:
Many will die for nothing, mostly innocent & ignorant people, should the FG give this madness some attention. Was at a bar and some guy was frothing from all sides of his mouth about Biafra and what not, had to engage him at some point, dude was legit blabbing. He hardly understands what he's fighting for. That goes to show that there are tons of people who are like him, but will be at the forefront with banners and flag. Pathetic!

The only pathetic thing here is the Nigerian in you that cant even allow you condemn the shooting of unarmed civilians as all civilised adults should.

The will be shouting restructuring just like they have done since Aburi 50 years ago and nothing will come of it.

benueguy:
That's my problem exactly. Can't we be one? It can start from Nairaland

We cant be one. Too many of us want our freedom

benueguy:
When I read some comments on Nairaland it gets me wondering how we got here.

Why would you call a whole tribe funny names (I can't mention here)? Please Nigerians, when did we get here? Don't we have conscience anymore?

We are been ruled by leaders who don't give a damn about us and instead of us to rise in unity, we keep castigating ourselves. Is this fair?

Your problem is that you think we one. We are not one and the word 'Nigerian' is just an imposed colonial name.

Okoyiboz3:
Since it's Igboland, why did Igbos abandon their properties in those places and run away during the Civil War?

Go and ask those who survived the war to tell you who owns Rivers.

Instead if saying all this, go and find out the ethnic groups that comprise Rivers state and also find out the ethnic group of the Elele people where this incident happend

rusher14:
Rivers that run through another man's backyard before it gets to you is that one a potential seaport?

Even fish sef dem fit deprive you of if you make too much noise.

You should go and read some international law. Nobody owns Rivers, only land can be owned.

If Rivers could be owned, Guinea would be the owners of the River Niger because they are the source where it comes from.

rusher14:
They should therefore stop receiving monthly allocation, broadcast that they have no representation at any level in government whilst also moving out of communities that aren't Igbo.

We all did that in 1967, it didnt help.

Okoyiboz3:
Rivers State is now Igbo land, abi?

This is the same mistake your fathers made that got them killed like chickens.

Dont talk like an ignoramus if you dont know the ethnic groups that make up Rivers state or who Elele people are.

Umuchukwu!

Iamzik:
Stop blaming Lugard.
We had a regional system of government before you easterners introduced unitary system.

Or is Aguyi ironsi not igbo?
The Zoo you insult today is a creation of an igbo man.

So relax and enjoy!

Got nothing to do with unitary or Regional system. It has everything to do with those who want to quit Nigeria no matter the system.

Britain has a Regional system but scotland agitated to go.

Jethrolite:
There's also another major problem with Biafra - it is landlocked. Nigeria will totally seal off access to Biafra as is the case of Sudan and South Sudan. Biafra will be dead on arrival should it ever become reality, but then Kanu is smart and is courting the Niger Delta to be part of Biafra for water access but that's not an entirely smart move and he knows it - Niger Deltans will rather have their own country than be part of Biafra.

In the least, as Biafra is being created, Niger Delta Republic must also be created for Biafra to exist and excel for the prosperity of all Biafrans.

There is no single agitation out there for any Niger Delta Relublic so that one is dead in the water.

Let me just assume that Biafra is about Igbos and Igbo speaking people. The Igbos stretches into Benue, the Benue Igbos or Umueze Okoha people, the Ika-Igbo people sometimes called Anioma or Delta Igbos in Delta state and the Rivers Igbos such as Asa, Ndoki and Ikwerre as well as the Ika-Igbos of Edo state or Igbanke.

If all these Igbo elements are gathared together as Biafra then Biafra is not landlocked

Even if Biafra was just the so called 5 Igbo states, it would be landlocked but still have access to the Sea because Onitsha in Anambra, Oguta in Imo state and Obuaku in Abia all have Rivers that run directly into the Athlantic Ocean. There is already a River port in Onitsha. So the issue is not being landlocked but having access to the Sea.

captleonerd:
good. Move it in the parliament we have in Nigeria. The senate and the house of reps

We are not moving it in the senate or parliament because Nigeria was not created in any parliament or senate.

Untill I see that IPOB guy talking on video, I will not believe they didnt kill him. He looks very much dead in that picture. Shame on the Nigerian security forces.

captleonerd:
Nigeria is sovereign country in a democracy. Nothing gets done without the senate. A motion was moved before the Scots got their referendum. If you want a referendum then do what the Scots did. Move a motion in the house

The Scots moved a motion for referendum in the scottish parliament in Edinburgh, not the British parliament in London

If Igbos must move a motion in the Nigerian parliament for a referendum, then it must be in the same Nigerian parliament where Lugard moved a motion to create Nigeria.

If Nigeria cannot provide that then it means that Nigeria is holding Igbos illegally since the Igbo nation was never notified of their inclusion into Nigeria.

Another concocted story by the Lagos/Ibadan motorway media

Meanwhile, his messiah has been in London taking pictures for over 3 months

:“We, the Ijaw, have what it takes to liberate ourselves and do not need help from IPOB.

You cant even get restructuring to even start talking about liberating your selves.

captleonerd:
Someone has to move the motion for referendum. Buhari or osibanjo can't do it on their own. Talk to your senators to move the motion. Stop blaming outsiders.


What would have worked before all the hate speech will be

1.) Getting the support of your own senators for referendum

2.) Getting the support of the middle belt (shouldn't be difficult. The fulanis have not been good to them)

3.) Getting the support of the south south (they'll be happy to have their own country)

4 ) getting the support of the southwest (not difficult as at 2014 before radio Biafra started insulting us. We were sitting on the fence before KANU called us names)

But after all the hate speech, threats and counter threats. Things are more difficult now but still achievable.



This is a democracy. If you want a referendum move the motion at the national assembly.

Stop blaming others

In other words, we should lick the a$$ of all of you just because Lugard came in 1914 to say we are all Nigerians?

Lol

Nigerians simply dont realise that returning Kanu to jail will only increase his popularity and that of IPOB. Infact, it is going to increase his international reputation as a prisoner of conscience.

I think secretly, Kanu is hoping to be returned to jail. Everybody already knows that the case against him has no merit

There is only one destination, FREEDOM!

Chei! Another gruesome killing in my dear Igbo land. This has to stop!

He looks dead to me, besides, the whole world knows about the Amnesty International Report that the authorities have killed over 150 IPOB members. So even if he is not dead, it does nothing to take away the fact that the authorities commit murder regularly.

Organs:
Bros, you know why Ibos are not "trusted" generally speaking? because they are not sincere. They will disobey the law and try to justify it. Siddon there and try to justify this, where in the world will you see people dressed in this manner, saluting nnamdi kanu and him inspecting and doing all that with treason charges on his head and understand that if you send for example 3 policemen to arrest kano all these guys will harass and intimidate the police. Also, if there is a sit at home order from kanu, this mofos will harass those that refuses to join. If Kanu says anything in that gathering, if someone opposes, i and you know the person will be shut down and maybe lynched. They are chanting army and warrior songs, and you are there saying its within his rights, ok, i hear you bros. I am watching, we go see naa.

I dont think Nigerians should be worrying about Igbos or Nnamdi Kanu. If we all remember, Nnamdi Kanu is actually fighting to go his way with his people. If Nigerians dont like the situation, they should give Igbos a referendum.

Bishop4real:
Why is Scotland yet to secede from Britain even after a "successful" referendum"? Why is Catalonia calling for another referendum by October 1, 2017 after the one they did by September 9, 2014? As you are aware of right to self determination, please be informed that there is also right to sanctity of sovereignty of nations. Nigeria is a sovereign state recognized by UN & has all legal powers to protect her territorial integrity & sovereignty. Your right to self determination can not override Nigeria's right to sovereignty. Until NK, IPODB & like minds do the right thing, Biafra restoration will continue as an illusion: a mirage!

Nigeria has a right to sovereignty but only if the people agree. Sovereignty belongs to the people. People must willingly give up their sovereignty for the state to exist, and even when they do, they can ask for it back at any time.

In the case of Nigeria, nobody gave up their sovereignty, it was stolen by the British to create Nigeria. Now some people are saying they want their independence. It us then the duty of Nigeria to grant those people their independence in the spirit of fairness same way Britain granted Nigeria her independence in 1960.

LorDBolton:
Still another ignorant statement ... Google the anti secession law in china , them go n tell them that everyone has right to self determination .

I'm patiently waiting for the "UN" abi Israel come to help y'all get ur referendum date... Be bragging n beating chest , don't advise yourself n these IPOB touts to go via the political route.

Dont use China as an example, China is not a democratic state. I dont see the point Nigerians make when some people talk about secession. Nigeria is just the creation of the British. There was a time we were not together and heavens did not fall. Now that we have been brought together in 1914, some people are insisting we must die together. Very funny.

LorDBolton:
Secession is not a crime? See ignorance

Go and help Tibet , Hong Kong, Macau ROTC secede from china na

Go and help Corsica secede from France

Go and help the Chechens secede from Russia

Go and help Zanzibar secede from Tanzania

Go and help southern Cameron's leave Cameroon

Mevery nation is a slave to their constitution , it took the scots countless decades to achieve a referendum date, and this was done via politicking (year on year) after their initial armed attempts failed

Catalan referendum is not federally backed ergo is illegal and will definitely not hold

Cure your ignorance. Secession is not a crime, self determination is recognised right all over the world. What might be a crime is the method of secession. It doesnt matter how long it took Scotland to get referendum, what matters us that their right to secede was respected. Spain might have issues with the Catalan referendum based on legality but nobody is denying Catalonians their right to secede. So the method of secession is the problem and not the right to secede. But in backward Nigeria, people have labaled Kanu and IPOB terrorist for asking for secession. They have been shot at, killed, arrested abd tortured. Yet, Kanu and IPOB are yet to touch anybody. Nigeria is the enemy here not IPOB or Kanu.

I dont see anything wrong with what Kanu has done. He has said that he is not going for any armed confrontation and that all wants is a referendum which is a democratic instrument.

Im laughing at these people who have turned a simple harmless IPOB parade into an act of war.

If anyone is guilty of instigating war, it is the murderous security agents who have gunned down hundreds of unarmed IPOB members just because they exercised their constitutional right to peaceful protest and agitation.

All this is because many people have come to take anything Biafra as war. I have seen OPC do a mock parade and salute themselves in Ikeja, nobody called it war.

All this is just propaganda to tarnish the image of IPOB as the peaceful freedom fighting oitfit it is.

Bishop4real:
Are Boys Brigade, Boys Scout, NYSC, Red Cross etc secessionist movements or bodies? Don't you see boys brigade & boys scout in Nigeria hoisting Nigerian flag? Which flag is IPOB brandishing? OP was spot on! That parade is an insult on the collective sensibility of the erudite, hardworking & creative Igbos. What a shame!

FYI, secession is not a crime. Scotland tried to secede from Britain when they voted in a referendum in 2014. Catalonia wants to secede from Spain and will have a referendum in October, East Timor seceded from Indonasia. Secession does not make any organisation criminal, what is criminal is how they go about it. Self determination is a human right. So far, IPOB have not touched anybody and they are within their rights under the law to salute each other and hold parades.

Organs:
Keep seeing things from your own viewpoint only. Boys brigade, NYSC, Boys Scout all have charters and are inaugurated by the law or ordinance of the land. These are all legitimate and established organizations. Now, Nnamdi kanu blatantly put together this miscreants lookiing threatening and all and you want to sincerely tell me if a judge says he is violating his bail conditions and orders his arrest for example, you think these hungry looking mofos will not put up resistance? Now guess what will happen, you know Nigerian Army is does not use tact or peaceful strategy, they will do the same thing they did with boko haram, shite etc, but again be ready, do not complain that its Buhari or fulani or muslim etc. Go now and ask shite in Zaria what the army did to them when they blocked a major highway and refused the passage to the COAS. Also, lots of soldiers said they were ready to remove their uniform and stop being soldiers if the COAS had turned back because they dont want to shoot, no way the zombie nigerian army do not operate like that. Its just "OPEN FIRE" dan borouba na dat time all these mouth wey you dey knack upandown go mechionu. So keep running your mouth, me i know it will not end well, and at the end nothing will happen, only idiots and fools and stubborn heads will just die for nothing, a lot of noise will be made, tears here and there and hope upon hope of biafra soon, biafra is coming very very soon, at the end we go settle and you will start complaining all over again. The same circle again and again until you learn to understand that we are together as one Nigeria, you are not going anywhere, we better unite now and get rid of all these politicians stealing us blind, that is the solution to our problem, period.

Well it is good that you are admiting that the Nigerian Army is a terrorist organisation that shoots unarmed civilians. They did it to Shia muslims for blocking the road the COAS wanted to use. If it were a civlised country such as Amwrica or Canada that it happend, the COAS and all the Soldiers who did this would have been in court on murder charges. But we are talking about Nigeria anyway were life means nothing.

The important thing to note with Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB is that they have never touched, harrased or killed anybody. It is even IPOB that has been harrased and killed. If some IPOB members decide to wear berets and salute Kanu, they are entitled to do that under the law. No law says nobody is allowed to salute another person or conduct parade. They are not carrying weapons. So people can read any meaning they want into it but they are not breaking any law

If Kanu is breaking his bail conditions, it is for the courts to decide when they resume.

Uteghe:
I just confirmed from an anambra indigene that no one was shot yesterday. Teargas canister only hit an IPOB member in the head. The photo of ''corpses'' posted on social media was staged.

A teargas canister hit an IPOB member in the head? So you dont know that can kill a person just as much as a bullet?

Sapiosexuality:
That's true but we have ask what a person plans to achieve by doing something with such ambiguity. Would it help Biafra if that video sends an impression of war? Will anyone be wrong to assume that Kanu is training an army against Nigeria? What impression does he send? What exactly does he plan to achieve? Those are important questions. Kanu is a mortal and not a God and should be alerted when he goofs.

If Nnamdi Kanu wanted to go to war, he would not advertise it this way for the authorities to know about it. He would have armed the die hard Biafra fanatics and it would start. The man has said that all he wants is a referendum. If some Biafran youths decide to wear berets and take salutes from Kanu, nothing in the law says they are doing anything wrong. Boys Brigade, NYSC, Boyscouts and several others all take salutes, are they also going to war?

The mind of the average Nigerian has been conditioned to see Biafra as war when that is not the case.

If people take this BSS as some sort of preparstion for war, its a free world, anyone can think what they like.