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nefertitiram:
For example, there is ds particular Dr.A that has agents everywhr. When u get his quotation you will see a part whr dre is $500 admin fee. Admin fee for what?

When someone refers you to a doc and tells you please mention my name.

When you contact him he will ask for who referred you. Isn't that a form of business/agent arrangement?

Is this them say? or you tried it out yourself? Just trying to get a clearer picture.

justwise:
Ok I have gone through all the posts here and it boils down to the sort of info to share.
Somebody talked about Dr's review but I don't know how that will workout because two people may use the same Dr but come out with two different experiences. In such case it will be difficult to review that Dr.

Yes people will benefit from sharing hospital cost and names but I have issue with people sharing price quotes they recieved privately from a hospital/ Dr then ask people to PM them for that Dr's contact details.

I also have problem with people who recommend Dr and hospital they never used purely because they will get discounts for introducing more clients.

Like I said before the issue is not about sharing info as some keep saying but how much info is the issue here.

Anybody with suggestions how to strike a balance here?

Don't get that part. How do you get discount for a hospital you've not used or don't intend using?

Some are already pros at hoarding information anyway so it's not a problem for them.
You've always struck a balance (as best as you could) why fix what isn't broken?

@maymaj honestly you come across as an agent... your story isn't straight. Apologies if you're not.

In light of the recent debate. I just had to. Lol

Phema:
I totally understand you, but what do you reckon? That the thread has served its purpose and should be closed? So that agents don't benefit? We have to stop a good course cos of some bad eggs? Throwing the bath water with the baby, no?

Agents have been lurking around this thread from time immemorial. In fact, i think we had more of them in part 1 as we used to expose them on daily basis, but that didn't stop us from moving forward.

Look at it this way: if we have the info on this thread, these agents will have less customers as most people will be armed with the necessary info they need, FOC.

What is the risk of posting openly? Agents could take advantage of it and Naija mamas could bombard the place and they stop taking us. But at least, it gets to help many people. What is the risk of not sharing at all? No one gets the info and we are stuck. The rich ones resort to agents to get half baked info. People like me start doing all night research as i no get money to pay any agent. I would very much prefer the former. Nothing like joining heads together in a life changing journey as this, with people sharing their real life experiences. Personal research doesn't come close. I should know cos i did loads of that.

This is same thing happening to the Canada version of this thread. So many people are interested in birthing in Canada but the ones with info won't share. The thread is as good as dead. This is the way this thread will go if this continues.

I now know the reason I love you. eHugs.

firsttymum:
Visa card didn't agree o.
I tired my master card and it worked. Used where I'm staying as billing address and it worked

Oh I dont have any naija issued visa card but I know DH always says to always opt for naira Mastercard when opening a new acc. The visa I used is my Santander UK but I used my normal billing address in the uk for that.
Glad that worked out for you.

Have a lovely Sunday all.

firsttymum:
bad news Chai...

What I usually do is use my host's address not naija address as billing address and it works. Used my skye on Walmart, carters, target even to top up my TMobile, used it for car rental etc
But once I opened my BOA, I only used my naija card at the tills. Any online purchase I used my BOA card.

Good luck.

twizzie:
When did she become 'our' wife o?
When we were doing night vigil because of our grumpy relative/host you no dey o? Kontinu claiming our wife till you see wedding pics on IG..Hehehe..Tobermum how baby?

Yepa! Ngbo @Tobermom?
You better know that our sweet princess is my son's wife.
Na we dey there o. We have even paid bride price sef. Lol

Tobermom:
So after the extra smooth POE experience, the temporary season of hunger games and eventual house swap, my lil one arrived early hours of this morning at wyckoff heights! Its a girl! ( thank God, didnt want any bruce/caitlyn jenner things after buying too much pink!) and it was through a VBAC too. God is indeed very faithful. I thank Him cos it has ended in praise!

Congratulations dear... God bless our wife. She's prettier than her mom lol.

Amother4life:
I also agree with both submissions. You do not have legal status to remain in the UK and any attempt to apply for a visa will be rejected. You must be legally present in ANY country to even contemplate applying for a Visa . Your only solution is to return home and settle down before applying . I guarantee you that you will be asked the circumstances surrounding your return to Nigeria after 6years in England. Goodluck as you decide on your next line of action.

Even when you're legally in the UK e.g. Student visa, they'll tell you to go your home country and apply.
I came to Lagos and renewed.

elitebook:
@Bbsy, yours is not a unique one really and I don't see what happened as a lie, white or not. You may send an email though if it makes you feel better.
Truth is there's no hard and fast rule about these things. You cannot deny a question that you weren't asked. Simple as that. These people are not "gods". If you know your rights as a human being, boldly defend your position on the matter. We've heard so many stories that make sense and others that don't, showing that their reasoning isn't one dimensional. As it should be. Relax, have your baby and when it's time to renew your visa, renew it. If they call you for an interview, so be it. Interview isn't rapture.

@Amgizzie, you can PM me for details of Hospitals in Miami. Not sure Justwise will be cool abouty sharing openly. I m heading there soon.

Lol @rapture....
I'm glad she had the courage to share regardless.

Amother4life:
It's a preclearance facility for all U.S bound flights and not a POE.



http://www.cbp.gov/border-security/ports-entry/operations/preclearance/abu-dhabi-international-airport-preclearance-queue-times

Yes o. I read up on it. I made Google my friend.

favoredgal:
Pls lets pass the right information because of newbies that will be reading the thread, its not just enough to pay your bills and get receipts. All interactions are documented in the system. Honesty is encouraged all the way, especially since you are armed with your burden of proof. All responses are documented in the system. We'v had series of good news, so i have been reluctant to share this, but a family friend was turned back from Atlanta on Sat, because when she went to have her first baby she dint declare @ POE. This is someone that went thru dropbox, wasn't pregnant when she got her visa and had all her receipts with her. Some people are lucky but not all

I hope this "White lie" doesn't come to bite her in the future.

@bbsy, Congrats on your successful entry and do have a safe delivery

No one is advocating dishonesty. She even began her post by saying hers is a bit different. So she obviously knows the norm is to declare your intentions no matter what. She probably didn't have the courage to and my school of thought is not to make her feel worse when she already may feel bad.
Everyone here is an adult in their own right, I'm sure they're very aware of actions and consequences.

dere5:
Exactly my thoughts,i have even read on this thread of someone that was sent back at dubai on their way to amelica,so i dont fault her for thinking her poe might be in dubai o. Lol

When was Abu dhabi poe again? I really doubt that. Though they do their own thorough checks but I don't think it's a poe.

Amother4life:
So, are you in the Country for only vacation and shopping? It seems you were asked a pretty routine question and you intentionally left out an important detail. I hope it's doesn't come back to bite you in the you know what because that response was documented.

I think she will be just fine. @bbsy Just pay your bills and get your receipts.
Congratulations and good luck.

MayMaj:
It's actually New Jersey ooo

NJ is also New jersey.

justwise:
You will struggle to convince the OV on that. The CEO can not hand over company,s bank statement to you for child birth even if he owns the company.

I agree with Justwise. If it was for vacation that will fly but not childbirth. Just doesn't seem right.

newbie1234:
Hello everyone,

Bringing up my post again. Sorry for the epistle but need help identifying hospitals in Maryland that people here have used and their charges.

Thanks in advance.

https://www.nairaland.com/2176096/give-birth-usa-cost-procedures
Start from page 200 or so. There were plenty Maryland posts. Don't think anyone wants to start typing again.
Good luck.

IjayMama:
@bbaby84
GC's paediatricians ain't great. My daughter is 13 months & we've used them since our return. We have just been blessed cos she hasn't had any issues except cold. The few times we met the PD, she sounded like she don't know what she's doing. Besides if you are under HMO, you can't see a PD directly. You must see a GP & he must refer you to the PD if he feels necessary or if beyond his comprehension & trust me, he will try not to. We are currently looking for a good Paediatric hospital & least for our LO, while we stick with them till I make my trip.

I heard Ave Maria is very good in pediatrics but they aren't under my HMO and I have to pay out of pocket.
God help me

omogedudu99:
@Middy, Sorry about your previous loss. May you not experience another of such.

I'm not trying to discredit your statement but I used the hospital in question for both my pregnancies and they were quite professional and thorough.

My first preg was risky and I would have had a miscarriage but for the attention I got there.

Not l3ss than 3 of my friends including one that lost an earlier preg at a high brow hospital have used them and no negative report. The only thing is at the first sign of complication, they will want to push for CS instead of VD.

Another thing is their antenatal patients have multiplied greatly between last yr and now. So you spend a long time there for ANC checkups. I yabbed them that they've turned to General Hospital

I'm not trying to advertise for them but want to share my own experience.

For naija levels they were more than okay. But of course you can't compare that with the medical care here in yankee.

This is life. Some have it good while some are not so lucky. Please I'm signing up for their pediatrics and I'm hoping I'm making the right choice.
Anyho, will try them out still.
@Middy sorry about then ( I think some of us have to go through the whole miscarriage/ preterm labour thing. Heart wrenching!
Like they say, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Can't wait for you to hold this bundle in your arms (God has a way of making us forget)

MiddyO:
Nerf you know our stories are similar, I lost my own preg @ 22.5 weeks shortly after you. Private hospital on Bourdillon o!
My friend's sister almost died in the UK from infected CS site last year. Gross negligence ni o.

So UK too de struggle o, NHS isn't all that in my opinion

Hope that's not the hospital I'm about to sign up with? Is it GC?

firsttymum:
This is just so painful... See d money she wasted... And how they traumatized her.. Mscheew. They didn't even consider the children sef. E jlust pain me

Na me this thing pain pass....
If only she had read about my sister's ordeal at that horrible Chicago. Na so the woman talk say she has to see dokita before she go anywhere o. She said she didn't know where the courage came from.
She told them I'm ready to go back but I need a doctor to tell me I'm fit to fly. They reminded her of the one she brought from Nigeria lol she said it was for a one way trip not a return so she will need another one. When their so called doctor came he said she couldn't fly anywhere o.
Her visa was cancelled but she gave birth to the baby in the US(that baby's head was strong).

I sight you @Tobermom. ... how body and baby in the body?
Kisses.

shrekandfiona:
A friend and her family of 5 were recently turned back at Chicago POE. She is a frequent US traveller, they all go on yearly vacation 8 years counting, has children but they were all born here in Naija.


I feel so sad for her and just tot to share so that peeps wanting to birth would do their homework very well even if you are a frequent US traveller. Be informed and be prepared. Peace y'all

Chicago poe is a deadly poe. I can never go through it.
Some people just like to brag about how much they spent or didn't spend hmmm 18k is more than enough to show at point of entry. I wouldn't like to carry such cash even if we were a family of 20 (thank God for debit cards) and I don't remember reading that they were renting.
The officer was just wicked. I feel so sorry for that family.

tteam:
So, i have been hesistant posting my bad experience, but who knows where help can come from.
So it goes thus:
During my visa renewal interview(been to the US before)i denied being pregnant.
(Hadnt come across this thread then)
Fast forward to months later, very slim me with a huge bump at 32 weeks decides to birth in houston.
The cbp officer asks why am here, i say birthing n vac. He said why did i deny being pregnant and sends me in for secondary questioning.
I spent 24 hours there, wasnt allowed to contact my family in the us or 9ja. Paying my docs fee in full didnt help.
I was jst sent back, my visa cancelled and no chance to withdraw my application by myself. They called it misrepresentation of a matrrial fact.
So i kuku come back to port harcourt, had my adorable son and weve been fine.
So thats my story. And all this was in 2013
Now 2nd missionary journey is close. Anyone with ideas on how i am suppose to right this wrong?
@popri, @firsttymum, @ all the gurus here.....
Show me that posting my story here wasnt in vain.
Thanks. .

@tteam sorry about your ordeal. My advise to you is to wait out the ban. My sister had a similar experience too but hers was cancelled without a ban (she used medic aid for her first but paid for the second) She got a lawyer and got another visa almost immediately.
In your case it was misrepresentation. If I were you and I had TIME and money, I will speedily apply for Canadian visa as that's your best option of getting dual citizenship for your unborn.
If you decide to fight it, just have it at the back of your mind that's the chances of winning the appeal is slim. The lawyers in the house please give your professional advise.
All the best.

modath:
Even me sef know na you....






I can't really call it cruelty, I think its what nerf & aunty call "intolerance" & "deep seated anger" especially when they see you come in almost on a daily basis with shopping bags & then have the audacity to say you are paying your thousands of USD medical bills in CASH!!! while they have to either use insurance or medicare..

You get dat kain money, use shakara dey talk "I'm paying cash, I can't use insurance ooo, come still dey squat, your case na sorry...

Lol busted!
Na real squat o. The way we say the I'm self pay, na real shakara.

Tobermom:
Bbaby84. im 95% sure i know you. If im correct our hubbys work together and theyre besties, yeah? We had a similar chat bout your trip on whatsapp a few days ago?

I was just being cheeky dear... its me lol

Tobermom:
Bbaby84. im 95% sure i know you. If im correct our hubbys work together and theyre besties, yeah? We had a similar chat bout your trip on whatsapp a few days ago?

Hmm I don't think it is me o. I don't even have whatsapp. Lol

fehinebony:
Sorry about your ordeal dear, even in your pregnant state,na wa o!
like Nefertitiram said in earlier post, stories like these make me keeping thanking God for my host and praying for her, she was my bestie in sec sch (now sister) I stayed with her for 4months in a one bedroom apartment, she left her bed for me all thru my stay and slept on the couch, she made me schedule all my docs appointments for 10/10:30am and drove me thru and fro b4 she left for work, whenever we went grocery shopping I insisted on paying half at least so as not to be living off her, though she refused sometimes, she cooked and stored food for me in her refrigerator, whenever she wasn't available, she got some1 to drive me shopping, though I did 90% of my shopping online( I did that in order not to stress her) she called me on her lunch break everyday she was at work just to be sure I was fine, we prayed together sometimes, when my hubby came she left her car for him for easy movement, I can go on and on,and to think she is still single and wasn't even jealous, when I was leaving, I was in tears cos she was just so good to me, I just kept praying for her, since I left in June, we talk almost everyday, staying with her made us closer, I just bless God for her,

I could have written this. Mine was my primary school bestie o. I had my first with at my Sister's but I wasn't comfortable having my 2nd there ( I can't explain really just felt funny) plus I took my toddler with me (ijogbon special) My bestie turned sister said I should come to Chi town. Mehn! She was heaven sent. I didn't even remember I had a toddler she was his mom all through out even when I was in the hospital for 3 days. She'll cook for me, bathe my son, feed him, scold him when his naughty etc. See struggle to give her money when she's going to African store so I'll go to the Jewel Osco beside the house to supplement with groceries most of which we'll eat sef. She gave up her room for us and would sleep on the couch even when her bf comes they'll both sleep in the living room. Let me not continue but God bless her for me. Pele @Tobermom it's almost over.
Sometimes it's people that aren't related to us that amaze us the most.

Hope this helps someone.

firsttymum:
I didn't

at the check in counter at fra to ewr I requested for a wheelchair for my remaining legs. ( Even though I requested for it

The cbp person was a lady... She was taking her time. Fast forward to me

Why are you here?
Vacation and to have my baby
Sorry?
Vacation and for birthing
What do u do? I'm a Bleep
And your husband? Hes Bleep
How do u intend to pay for this? Cash
How much do u have on u? 4k... My cards and besides my husband is coming when the baby is almost due.
How long do u intend to spend? Bleep

Ok ma'am I'm going to take to that office for verification

Madam you avoided Houston just to go through New jersey.... Please what is the difference? You get heart o.

LadyGuinivere:
Ma dear! Why leave LUTH them, DIFF them, Bridge them all join with great risk, climb enter tube when de fly, hang in the air for several hours, ( I have a serz morbid Fear of flying ) endure cbp cross Examination, have your indomie siezed, pay the amount wen. Go reach small bungalow come do parakpo?! Mbakwa o!

As in ehn! All that risk for a shoddy treatment.
I tire my sister.