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Honestly, stop making a fool of yourself. . Stop making deductions when you don't have enough information from the other end. We are obviously talking about who the MVP is right now. So there can always be a contender until there is a winner. When someone opines that someone is the MVP, it's probably a momentary assertion, unless the other party says otherwise. You can always ask to be sure. . So in real-time(since it seems there's some sort of time dilation on your end ), saying someone is the MVP at a point in time does not mean, he'll get the crown. The clause was "Giannis is the rightful MVP". Meanwhile, you asked a question i am yet to answer. .I will get back to you.

steady986:
Lol. How can someone be a contender when you've given one person the crown already? Olodo person

You are a lost cause, man.

steady986:
Oh, you're changing your mind? AD doesn't deserve to be MVP again?

Stop being unnecessarily strong-headed. Nobody is praising AD, as you know yourself, he's done this before. We are only punching holes in your Lebron for MVP campaign. If you didn't get this then i am very sorry for you. At least that was my point, unless @A40 thinks differently.

steady986:
But AD had similar numbers with the Pels, why didn't you cut him some slack? He now plays with the Lakers with such numbers and he's suddenly being praised.

This comment especially was made by you in December, 2 months into the season

Carrying and Co-carrying are two different things. . Propelling a team to a winning record while playing alongside another superstar is not carrying. Co-carrying doesn't have to be 50/50. We can still discuss the value of each co-carrier. Why are you making it seem as if we criticised ADs game. None of us argued against his lack of talent or wherewithal. Our argument is he couldn't carry that team, and that is a fact. What we know now is that AD can co-carry, with another superstar, but the argument about his inability to carry NOP still holds

steady986:
Let's assume anybody said that. At least he's now proving his worth while playing with LeBron. For those who said he couldn't carry a team, what excuse do they have?

Sure, but i will keep reminding you of this day. Not unbeatable afterall. Athletico disvirgined you, then allowed you wonder about for a while, then come wife you again. You don suffer.

maynation:
Nothing can stop me from trolling Man U, nothing absolutely.

You don Mellow. Good. . Take the L in good faith. If i hear say you enter MANU thread again.

maynation:
Biko... someone can not play with YOU?

Careful man, you know the angel wey dey pass nairaland right now.

21cents:
say what,

not sure you watched the match. Liverpool wan kill ATM with possessions and shots and they secured 2 goals. so because ATM got lucky with Adrian's error now they can win it?

I would cut off my balls if they win the UCL not when the likes of Bayern Munich and Man City are still in..

Adrian was so foolish tonight.

Stop making promises you know you can't fulfill. Hopefully you will stop constituting a nuisance all over the place.

maynation:
Moya look away..

I guess we may have to look at him differently now, under different circumstances. . I have never doubted his talent though, in fact his talent is one of the reasons why i concluded that his stint at NOP was an underachievement. But there's one more thing i still don't trust about him though. We'll have to wait till the playoffs for that one. However, for now, i can't help but admit that the guy is balling out. We knew he could put up those numbers, but to do that alongside LeBron, as you indicated, is something quite impressive.

Roland17:
It is shocking/ interesting to read, considering I bantered you, Chic2pimp and A40 about AD for almost a week. Like I said last week, history and the record books will not only be kind but will revere AD on his first regular season with the Lakers especially when you consider he is playing alongside LeBum.

Honestly, i can't believe i am defending AD fervently, given my criticism of his underachievement at NOP. . When you listen to the media, it looks like Lebron is mister do it all. Defending and offending the back and front. . But if you look closely, you realize that, ahah, not quite the superman. It's just the typical case of AD de Alafia de.

A40:
Lool don't mind these wind vane people. Anthony Davis is in their team leading the Lakers in 4 out of 5 statistical categories never mind defensive ratings but they are bringing up D.Rose who led the Bulls to the best record in the league with Carlos Boozer and Luol freaking Deng

The Rose situation and the current situation are not comparable at all. Not even remotely. The bulls led by Rose had a better record that the Heats led by Lebron with Wade and Bosh and you tell me Rose didn't deserver it. That fact alone made him a serious contender. This case is different. Giannis not only has a better record, he leads him in multiple categories too. Now if LAL takes over with the best record, as you suggested, then that's something worth considering.

steady986:
For those of you who started watching the NBA recently

Man, sorry, but GOAT and LEBRON don't belong in the same sentence. . U can't even convincingly say that Lebron has been more valuable to the team than AD. Leading the team in 3 or 4 out of 8 relevant categories is what is called GOAT. I could make an argument that AD has contributed as much as LEBRON in this run. It's quite blasphemous to put GOAT and LEBRON together.
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DeeMain:
Never said it was beyond the court, bro.

Wasn't alluding directly to the Giannis-Lebron debate. To me either of them can take it. They are both deserving.

The Nash-Kobe metaphor was for you comparing the GOAT level displays of Lebron to the great level displays of Davis. I find it disrespectful to Lebron.

Two, it was for all the other times Lebron deserved MVP but it was given to some other because of a certain obscure narrative.

Also, forget what his fanboys or the media do or say, they are not him. Celebrate him while he lives.

You didn't mention blocks. 2.5 to 0.5. And stop talking as if he could score 50 points per game. He cannot, even if he wanted to. He leads him in multiple categories and that's it. Lebron didn't make the playoffs last season, although he had similar stats.

steady986:
What do you mean statistically? LeBron contributes over 50 points per game by way of points and assists. His rebound numbers are not dwarfed either by AD. The counts is 7.8 to 9.4. Steals is 1.2 to 1.5. Points is just a difference of one. I told you that box scores could be deceitful.

The argument is about the weight. Who has contributed the most to LAL's success statistically? And please don't bring up "You have to watch LAL games to see who contributes more"

steady986:
Oh, so you mean the success of the Bucks is solely on Giannis? Middleton played no part? Listen to yourself.

But honestly can you tell me how many 3 pointers Howard attempted and how many he made. The sample size is so small that the NBA doesn't even remember. . Perhaps they just did that hoping no one would notice. And your submission on Judging the best 3-point shooters based on FG% is bogus. Where did you get it from? The status quo hs always been volume and FG%. I hope we don't revisit this issue again. Just forget this Howard thing. Your argument is quite laughable.

steady986:
So why the hell is Dwight's name there and not KCP?

Don't tell me that's what you believe ooo. I know the angle you are playing. . Well played. But statistical analysis says sample size does not help your argument. The guy is shooting a whooping 60%, and Lebron won't encourage him to shoot more?

steady986:
Lol, doesn't that mean the same thing?

You can't trust someone with money you had to work or beg your ass off to get. At least not our fellow people at this point. Honestly, calling a mistake is an understatement. I would be very furious with myself.

chokas:
you can say whatever you like. Like I said the Visa has expired since 29 read my write-up well. And don't insult my Brother he was only trying to help. How could he have known that the Visa is not Authentic. You are talking as if you are all knowing. Have you never made a mistake of trusting someone before. This is just the reason some people don't like Posting their problems on nairaland cause people like you will cause more damage than good. If I should go to the Man's house and give him the right angle now you will still call me names,now am here trying to know the what next and you are bashing me.pls Mr all knowing let me be before you push me into worst situation.

Leading 3 point shooter? Is that what the sheet says? You didn't even bother to look at AD's contribution. You went all the way to Howard. Such Sound analysis. The world is hard indeed.

steady986:
When you bring up stats that have Dwight Howard as the leading 3 point shooter on a team, then you know it's desperation time

But LeBron is the MVP now. . AD quietly leading in most categories .Ayele ooo.

A40:
Meanwhile let me drop this here.

I honestly don't understand how someone would bring up such arguments to support his MVP case.

Eyedea:
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1237146909351051264


This is some presidential election level of campaigning.

Usual base? Are you kidding Me? You are yet tl win the EPL

toffyz:
Then it was a pyrrhic victory for him.

Meanwhile, Man city dominated all through but @ the end Man utd was victorious.

I'm a staunch Liverpool fan, you all know what that means.

I hate man utd!

Even though, I ought to support them today to win to reduce the number of matches Liverpool would have to win to become champion. But hell NO, I wanted them beaten.

Anyways, congratulations to all Liverpool fans around the world!

The EPL trophy is heading back to its usual base.

I LOVE LIVERPOOL FC

At this point, we just have to let the Lebron fans enjoy this win while it lasts. . And Lebron seems to be the only subject being discussed in this win. AD quietly dropped 30.

A40:
Hard to argue over this 2 game span.

Voters will conveniently forget the prior 3 encounters he was thoroughly owned and focus on these ones where a certain Anthony Davis also contributed 62 points.

Provided they don't win the title then no biggie if he wins regular season MVP

When i thought his MVP case took a bad hit. We have on our hands a league of narratives.

steady986:
The Bucks really want to strengthen Giannis' MVP case by getting blown out in his absence.

Probably true, but that's not enough, he's got to produce offensively too. He got 2 points in the Bucks game. Yes 2 points. That was egregious. . He's been blunt offensively against Clippers as well.

steady986:
Best believe that whoever Bradley is guarding gon have an off night. Beverley got cooked, when Lou came on he got cooked too. We have excellent guard defenders in Bradley and Caruso, and we just added Waiters. At this point I have to say there's noting the Clippers guards can do in that series.

How old is Salah abeg? Do you know how many goals Rashford scored before he got injured? Gerrahere.

Numerouno94:
The guy is right. United nids a proven goal scorer lyk Lewandoski nd co.

Talkin abt Rashford.He has bn in United for yrs now,hw many goals has he bn bangin per season?

Salah has won golden boot twice in a row nd his got 16 goals dis season while Mane gat 14 i tink.

Bro its a big sin to compare Rashford to Salah,Mane,KDB nd Aguero..Nawao 4 u ooo.

I will admit, i wasn't expecting 12-14. That was good. Perhaps the Clippers were not expecting it either, hence the hack.

steady986:
14 FT attempts should tell you he was being fouled repeatedly.

You made a rookie mistake. So you now know KD wasn't there when GSW went 73-9. And don't be salty about it. It's ok to make mistakes.

iamJ:
also learn to not jump into my mentions like a groupie once they sight a rapper

Too intelligent? Where did you get that from?

aliondo:
LBJ is just too intelligent...

This game does not say much about any of the teams at this point. In fact the distribution of the points gives a hint of a potential 7-game series. Such a weird distribution. Perhaps the 4th game might provide a better picture. We are not sure Avery can provide such a contribution 4 times in a series, or perhaps, he and Kuzma can alternate. . We are also not sure Lou can be this bad 4 times in a series. The lakers better hope he will be.

Perhaps that was bad from Kawhi. But your King shot poorly. It would do you a lot of good to mention AD, maybe that comment should be don't sleep on AD. I hope he brings that to the Playoffs.

steady986:
After watching this game tonight, my fear of the Clippers just nosedived. I know it's just a regular season game, but more confident of taking them in the post season than I was in the opening day of the season.

And one more thing, don't sleep on the KING. I keep saying this but people won't hear. Don't sleep on this man.

PSS: those were some poverty numbers from Kawhi, 27/2/0. Wtf is that?

Maybe it starts with great duos, but it ends with that third guy. You are not winning the championship without that third guy. Infact the complexion of any series deep into the playoffs today usually depends on which third guy shows up. You could have anomalies though.

chic2pimp:
This is the reason why Giannis needs the Likes of Khris step up. The league is all about Great Duos right now.

You are learning and that's a good thing.

iamJ:
just checked


But I still wouldn't accept that both are at the same level skill wise