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TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 6:59pm On Feb 27, 2008
@ akolawole

re the 28 days philosopy,

Is this the 28 days time of appeal or the unresolved one 28/56 days one circa muyiwabanks?
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 6:52pm On Feb 27, 2008
Akolawole:
@Bigbumper

. . . I am 100% sure the date of receipt at VAC have no RELEVANCE whatsover in the appeal process.

If its that important, UK law could have permit them(VAC) to personally embossed the receipt date on the refusal notice.
But they already do. When you pick up the ECO's decision in Nigeria, an A4 paper is attached to the package stamped with the date of collection, these "embossed" date is when your 28 days of notice to appeal is counted from. The date of receipt is relevant as this is the day your 28-days appeal period is counted from.
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 6:45pm On Feb 27, 2008
ty4real

thanks o jare, welcome on board the champions side, you see now pataki, no shaking.  cheesy grin grin
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 6:41pm On Feb 27, 2008
@ neksb

this issue takes us back to an unresolved argument on this thread a while back around the time of muyiwabanks, about whether successful applicants had to wait 28 days or 56 days for them to be contacted. I still think (no i know) that the waiting period is 28 days, I know you are on your honeymoon, but try and find time to read through the relevant part of the thread and i am sure you would find the response you need.
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 6:32pm On Feb 27, 2008
@funkybaby
re: neksb

It is her husband in possession of the ILR, not her. The student visa appeal she won enables her immediate entry into the country, if she applies via her husband's ILR, it would definitely take longer.

Me still thinks she should keep her mouth shut. In comparison to the US lady story, note, she has won her appeal, hence she is only going to pick up her visa and hence has no more forms to fill in.

I still think she needs a bit of advice (coaching) regarding whether she should tell or not though, due to this being "a change of circumstance" issue.
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 6:20pm On Feb 27, 2008
pahtahkee:
I was not too sure though, thats why I stated earlier on that: I think they do. Thanks for clarifying the position of things. . .
What do you mean by the above? You want me to give you a backhand slap abi? O boy stand firm, don't let them sway you o, we are right on this one tongue  tongue  tongue

pahtahkee:
But seriously, start preparing for a Judicial Review. I am very right on this one! cheesy

Here comes my bottle of wine! cheesy In fact no post am oh, I will be in Kent and London next week, so you fit wire am for me. cheesy
thats more like it, we are the champions,  grin grin grin
celebration, jubilation, all together, right now, yeah grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin. As a matter of fact lord Vor hit the bullseye with his post summarised below,

Also note the key phrase in par 7 (2) (b), states when the person outside the UK "is served", "not when the decision was made".

VOR:
Hi all,

. . . I see you are all still debating about the time limit for a notice of appeal to the
AIT despite my previous post on the matter. Anyway for the avoidance of any
further doubt I am now posting the relevant legislative provision from the AIT
rules and procedure together with the link. I hope this clarifies matters once and for
all. (Funky take note wink)

Time limit for appeal
     7.  -

    (2) A notice of appeal by a person who is outside the United Kingdom must be given -



(a) if the person -


(i) was in the United Kingdom when the decision against which he is appealing was made; and

(ii) may not appeal while he is the United Kingdom by reason of a provision of the 2002 Act,


not later than 28 days after his departure from the United Kingdom; or

(b)[b] in any other case, not later than 28 days after he is served[/color][color=#990000] with notice of the decision.[/b]

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050230.htm#7
Time limit starts from when you get served the ECO's decision, not when the ECO makes the decision.
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 9:38pm On Feb 24, 2008
@neksbabay

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If they don't ask, don't tell.

You were single when you applied for your visa yonks ago, you are just gonna be getting married this weekend.  Make sure you get yourself fully informed regarding "change of circumstances" If you feel the need to spill.

(congratulations on getting married)
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 9:20pm On Feb 24, 2008
In Nigeria, your 28 days to appeal commences from the day you are called to pick up from the courier. (refer to 1st page of refusal notification for stamped date)


pahtahkee:
. . . You know it is good if we argue over issues like this. It always enlighten us all the more and more importantly the readers of this thread.
Ariston:
If I may wade in here because this is something that equally happened to me,the refusal notice stants counting from the day that it is received,not by the VFS in this case but by the applicant or would be appellant,
CORRECT


pahtahkee:
Many thanks for setting me in the clear here. I should have stated emphatically that the refusal notice starts counting when the applicant/appellant picks up his application pack from the VFS.
CORRECT


ty4real:
@Funkybabay!
I want to agree with Pahtakee on this, the date start counting from the day you collect your application from the VFS.Cuase immediately it will be entered in the system which will mak eit to become a refernce point for who ever is acessing it. . .
In summary sha, it starts counting from the day you collect your application package! wink wink
CORRECT

VOR:
Hi Funky, Pataki et al, . . .

With regards to the appeal notice and time to appeal. Funky is right, countdown
starts from the date on the appeal notice.
INCORRECT


Akolawole:
Funky is 100% RIGHT.

The 28 days policy start on the day the decision was made.[
INCORRECT
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 4:46pm On Sep 14, 2007
help anyone

please where is the log out button again? been a long time, can't seem to find it
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 4:40pm On Sep 14, 2007
Hi all, back from big brother sabbatical (methinks that was the same reason Mr Akolawole disappeared of the radar too wink), big brother really sucked this year, didn't like the way Charley was treated, anyways it's all done and dusted. I hope y'all had a nice summer holiday.

Congratulations to all the success stories in the house. Still trying to declutter my brain and have not really had the time to fully peruse the forum, but to kelly24 ~ if you missed the chance to include the document with the appeal/reconsideration bundle, i think you still have a chance to include it as part of further documents to be sent off or to take along copies to the hearing. I know that it would be permitted at the hearing.

~brownsugar ~1) For your solicitor to have been able to keep your case alive at the embassy for the past two years is no mean feat, and gives me the feeling that your solicitor is not a quack.

2) The Eco is legally entitled to consider a student's marital status to enable him determine whether they would return home after their studies under par 57 of the act, BUT, he was wrong to apply this to you, because this element of the law no longer apply to degree students as they are allowed to work for a year after their studies.

3) Grab Vor's offer of one on one help with all the might you can muster, such opportunity is rare as a hen's teeth.
TravelRe: Woman Loses 11.8 Million Naira To US Immigration by bigbumper(f): 10:36pm On May 27, 2007
Yeah a two bedroom condo in motel 6 indeed. Ignorance is bliss.
TravelRe: Woman Loses 11.8 Million Naira To US Immigration by bigbumper(f): 8:18pm On May 27, 2007
spoilt:
this is just by the way but why is it so shocking to believe that nurses make a lot of money?

. . . $92,000 really doesnt seem like a lot to have. its just a lot to be carrying in cash. undecided
WORD.

@BABYOSISI

Abeg, in UK when recruiters from USA and Australia come looking for nurses to poach, they often throw in perks of offer of free accommodation.

@ all

How many of y'all have used the "nothing to declare" exit considering the fact that you are only allowed to have circa £150 of duty free allowance.  He who is without sin . . .
TravelRe: Uk Visa Application (advice Needed) by bigbumper(f): 7:17pm On May 27, 2007
It doesn't matter where you go, all record on file can be retrieved from any location. Just make sure you indicate yes where they ask if you have applied for a visa before.

The way British law works is that as long as you fulfil the necessary requirement, you will get the visa. Hope you have familiarised yourself with the relevant paragraph 57 law though?
TravelRe: Uk Visa Application (advice Needed) by bigbumper(f): 6:53pm On May 27, 2007
Make sure you indicate that you have applied before in the relevant section, its just that your application would face more scrutiny due to previous record. You don't have to change your name or your passport (you can tell them your previous passport is lost if asked).

There is no two ways about it, so as long as you satisfy the "paragraph 57 rules", you would get the visa. Every application is different and treated differently.
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 6:27pm On May 27, 2007
neelsel:
WELCOME!!!
So are you one of [pataki's whimps? Well just so you know, bat, don't start anything you are NOT prepared to finish,
Now let me advice you as I did your counterpart, go to hell,
You call cheap insults and name-calling advice? I never argue with fools as people would not know the difference. You are the one that needs to take a walk off the gangplank.

BY THE WAY, in the same topic where you presumed mrpataki's apology to be a sign of weakness, you concluded that Nigerian/African men are ugly baboon and monkeys, who live in jungle and whose women use bleaching creams SO WHY ARE YOU HERE? WHY DO YOU SPEND ALL YOUR GOD-GIVEN TIME ON THIS FORUM CREATED BY AND FOR UGLY MONKEYS AND BABOONS? 
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 6:16pm On May 27, 2007
@ SHOBABY

Request for a reconsideration (decisions can be overturned in days) and lodge an appeal as advised, but you have to make it clear who the sponsor/s is/are. On paper your father-in-law was the sponsor but there was hardly anything in your submission to substantiate this fact. The fact that his details were submitted with previous applications does not mean that it should not be included again in future ones.  

By the way, why did you not apply for a 2-years multiple or even 5-years multiple entry visa when the previous one expired in may, if your hubby was on study leave from work he intended to return to?

Your hubby coughs up £480pcm in rent, so how did you reach the conclusion that £6000 is enough for you, your hubby and your little one, to live a very comfortable life? Or was that supposed to read £6000 per calendar month too?
TV/MoviesRe: Millions Of Sparks Of Jubilation As Jordin Sparks Wins 2007 American Idol by bigbumper(f): 4:35pm On May 27, 2007
davidylan:
Seun is making judgements based on a 2hr finale . . .

. . . and yet lay men who barely watched 2hrs of a 3month long show are claiming otherwise.
It takes less than one minute to find out whether someone can sing or not.
RomanceRe: Nigerian Men:backward Africans With Backward Thinking, Backward Behaviour And: by bigbumper(op): 3:56pm On May 27, 2007
It is under the culture board under the heading "Nigerian Men, Sex And Affairs: Non-nigerian Women Speak".
RomanceRe: Lonely: When will I ever see him again? by bigbumper(f): 3:09pm On May 27, 2007
Yes o, please spill the beans, we want to know what happened so that we too can know what/whom to avoid next time. wink
RomanceRe: Lonely: When will I ever see him again? by bigbumper(f): 2:53pm On May 27, 2007
Phew, thank God. It breaks my heart when I see someone whose heart is aching.
RomanceNigerian Men:backward Africans With Backward Thinking, Backward Behaviour And: by bigbumper(op): 2:13pm On May 27, 2007
The thread I am referring to was initiated by a bitter, twisted, scorned non-nigerian female of the species under the CULTURE board, headed "Nigerian Men, Sex And Affairs: Non-nigerian Women Speak" .

Having gone through the thread with a fine toothed comb, Nigerian men (THE CULPRIT) were labelled as unfaithful liars and cheats, backward africans with backward thinking, backward behaviour and backward society, for whom
exploitation and corruption and rampant poverty prevail, whilst the Nigerian
women, the AFRICAN QUEEN ( mind you the only crime we committed was that we got the ring) were labelled thus

gullible

submissive

fat

uneducated

chattels

not independent

stay at home to cook, clean and have children

love of money

housemaid

dull in bed

not strong-willed

obey our man's every whim and fancy

don' work

brought up to think being a woman is a disadvantage

dumb

stupid

scared of being labelled a promiscuous nasty LovePeddler

stiff angelic christian wife

thinks our p*ssy is on a pedestal

desperate for love

can't do better

our men disrespects us

our men puts us down

we are crap in bed


ALL THIS ONE TOPIC ON A NIGERIAN FORUM AS WELL !!! The annoying thing

was that most of these lies were fed to them by Nigerian men.


THE MIND BOGGLES INDEED.
TV/MoviesRe: Millions Of Sparks Of Jubilation As Jordin Sparks Wins 2007 American Idol by bigbumper(f): 8:29pm On May 26, 2007
Quote from davidylan

The larger market for music is the younger teenage group who are easily captivated not only by talent but are also looking for a role model in the artists they patronise. Unlike Melinda, Jordin is the kind of girl every teenage girl wants to model herself after, the kind of girl every mother would secretly want her daughter to look like.

Errrrr, speak for youirself, no one wants their daughter to be a humongous uk size 16 on top and 14 below (US size 12 on top and 8 below). Size 0 is the in thing now wink
TravelRe: What Is The Best Way To Get US Visiting Visa? by bigbumper(f): 1:06am On May 22, 2007
I don't know why you guys keep on knocking the poor girl. What is wrong in trying to help others if you have the means to do so. It's not as if one is gonna carry the dual citizenship status to heaven so what is the big deal.

I know loads of girls who have met guys via the internet, or met them through friends, and who have gone on to marry these guys within weeks.
Some guys even do it too. They travel to Nigeria in December, either meet someone on the plane or in Nigeria, and the next thing you hear, it's February and these people are discussing their wedding. 

Some of these people do these things out of kindness whilst a few of them do it to cheer themselves up because they are sad, depressed or something.

At the end of the day, it is better to give than to receive.

When I was younger and single, I used to allow virtual strangers (from church/ friend of a friend/ someone's cousin/ someone who got kicked out, etc) to live with me without asking them to contribute anything in return, and without knowing them from anywhere. Some stole from me in the process, but the others were fine.
TravelRe: Woman Loses 11.8 Million Naira To US Immigration by bigbumper(f): 10:46pm On May 21, 2007
Someone cited the case of Wayne Rooney's girlfriend's VAT issue, FYI, it was IMPORT DUTY she failed to pay, and was caught trying to leave the airport via the "nothing to declare" exit, like our Nigerian lady. Why wasn't she told to forfeit her possesion or put on probation too, cause she is a celibrity no doubt. All she was told to do was pay the duty she was trying to evade.

As for the 95 odd % of contributors to this forum who are lambasting the poor woman for not declaring this on the landing card/customs form, how many of you go through the "nothing to declare" exit? How many people manage to fill the forms correctly? It is not even as if she would have had to pay import duty for carrying cash, so why can't people accept that it could have been an oversight.
.

Y'all just seem to be blinded by the fact that, that could have been her hard earned money, but instead choose to jump to the wrong conclusion that she was probably laundering money for some government.

And as for saying she's educated and should have known better, what if she was one of those adult returners - people who return to study in old age aka matured students - how many graduates of Nigerian University are actually of "graduate calibre" despite spending years in University?[/b]
TravelRe: Woman Loses 11.8 Million Naira To US Immigration by bigbumper(f): 10:18pm On May 21, 2007
@ topic

$95,000 is not a lot of money, as a nurse she could have easily saved that over a period of ten years at the rate of $9,500 per annum.

Had a friend once who used to moan about being tired of living in the UK. He was living in a rented accommodation and had no dependant.

After doing an expenditure plan for him, from his income of £1000pcm, and outgoing consisting of rent £250; food £100; travel £50; bills £50; social/smoking £150; I told him if he saved the remaining balance of £400 every month, he would have £5000 in his account by the end of the year and £20,000 after 4 years.  

The US always try to entice British nurses over to the states every year and the salary packages is always around $60,000 with free accommodation thrown in, so there is nothing obscene for a nurse in America to be in possesion of that amount.  
RomanceRe: I Know He Flirts, But Is My Boyfriend Cheating On Me? by bigbumper(f): 1:11am On May 21, 2007
fekuti:
anti ma fi lo mi'n dasi, sunkun sabo, obo.

fyi, it's "typo" --- not "typho"
I ain't the one doing the nit-picking, mr admin wannabe.
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 12:44am On May 20, 2007
@razzy

I HOPE I am wrong, but methinks a letter of offer from another educational institution could be construed as a change of circumstance - a blanket policy reason for refusal that does not have to comply with Paragraph 57 rules.

I sugest you still go ahead and request from a different uni though, you might be able to argue that you still satisfy the law as it stands i.e. that the letter is a valid letter of enrolment.
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 12:33am On May 20, 2007
@presjany

Whilst ruminating whom to consider as a sponsor, you can correlate the career/education change to the fact that your previous course of study at secondary/university differs from your current finance related career choice as a banker (if applicable). It is not a crime to have a career change or false start as the oyibos like to call it. Remember the story of Saul/Paul in the Bible? Oops, don't remember myself embarassed  embarassed embarassed(God forgive me)
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 11:53pm On May 19, 2007
@abi25

You need to quote the exact statement given for your refusal.

@sparkle

Don't forget the all important valid offer letter.  Don't know what the wait is like to pick up a visa , but I am sure your sister would not mind spending the whole day there considering the fact that her appeal took months to be determined wink.
TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by bigbumper(f): 11:44pm On May 19, 2007
Vicjustice:
Funkybaby
While i wish you best of lucks, i'd wish to bring to your notice that your appeal might not be granted especially when the commission understands that the visa you sought is for a particular purpose and duration, and that the purpose of your visit is most likely to be invalid at the time of the final decision.
If i were you, i'd withdraw my appeal and re apply afresh: in fact, this move will make the eco understand how serious your application is. Goodluck!
ahem, appeal was granted a while ago, infact a date for collection has been agreed if my recollection serves me right.

What does reapplying afresh have to do with making an ECO understand how serious an application is?
RomanceRe: I Know He Flirts, But Is My Boyfriend Cheating On Me? by bigbumper(f): 10:55pm On May 19, 2007
Guys don't grass on each other. (they would lie though if there was nothing
to grass about and they wanted a piece of the action).

You stated that your cousin had no reason to lie, so your next assignment
after your exam
would be to find out whether her man is looking out for you
or for himself.

As for London/Scotland being classed as LDR (under an hour by air for a budget of around £50) hmmn.
RomanceRe: I Know He Flirts, But Is My Boyfriend Cheating On Me? by bigbumper(f): 10:34pm On May 19, 2007
luxoire:
. . . but she told me he said those things about 1/2months ago.

. . . but i do suppose she is sometimes inclined to make things look a bit worse than they are, when it comes to him.

. . . but he was only in town for about 5 hours and had lunch with his in-law.

. . . but the company had flown him in and out for a meeting. Its no excuse for his having not told me, and he admitted that. . .

. . . but he also said, if i had known he was down, i would have caused him grief for not making time to see me (which has some truth to it)

. . . but just now, i know where i am heading with my life, and i think he realises that he has a lot of work to do if he wants to stay with me (which is what he says) eitherway, i made it clear my life would go on regardless. he needed to choose whether to make an effort and move forward with me, or get behind.
So many "buts", but none was a typho error. Your command of the English Language is very good, listen to the doubt/reservation/suspicion in your mind.  

N:B

I know everyone's got a past and everyone deserves a second chance, but was he a flirt or is he a flirt?

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