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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:00am On Mar 02, 2021
n3xt:
Valid points!

Over 500 houses in my neighborhood are suffering water shortage because of No 6. We dredged the stream behind my lot and the water level went down in the whole area But since I’m not affected, I just moveeeee on without worries.

I’m still looking at ways to solve problem No. 3 & 4 after I did my concrete floor without considering the future needs of the building(s).

Good morning this morning!
How does the water in a dredged stream lead to shortage of ground water from aquifers beneath the earth for local usage via pumps?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Essence Of Feet Washing in the church ? by bixton(m): 4:31am On Mar 02, 2021
Princewell2012:
Yes, I have actually asked our resident pastor about it , and he said when he joined the church he also asked the senior pastor concerning it, and he told him that God instructed him to be doing it every first Saturdays in every month. You know we are all coming from different backgrounds. In were am coming from we don't do it either. So thats why am inquisitive about it.
Anyway am very close to both of them, you know this is ministry, there is no much you can do.

Though when the senior pastor was ministering about it he said the purpose is for the financial progress of the members .

God bless you so much for your time.
That is one of the reasons I requested you find out from your pastor. Every church has its own doctrine............. But what you should ask God through His Spirit for is if that church doctrine is in line with His Word as written in the Scripture/Holy Bible.

Do well to have a personal study of the Holy Bible and meditate on the Word of God.

The prosperity of man is first in the knowledge of Christ Jesus and the right understanding of His Word.

There are various forms of knowledge........
Knowledge from God grows in man and worketh incorruptible things and the Holy Spirit betters man's understanding daily as he meditates on God's Word.

Shalom.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Essence Of Feet Washing in the church ? by bixton(m): 5:29pm On Mar 01, 2021
Princewell2012:
Thank you so much for your input. Am really grateful.

Hmm you know in Holy communion we are asked to do it continually. Is it the same with feet washing? Thank you.
You're welcome.
It's important you find out why your church is doing feet washing to enable you get more knowledge about it.

The church I attend we don't do feet washing.

Feet washing and taking Communion are two different things entirely.
Communion taking is done in respect to keeping the remembrance of the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus. It's expected that you have a right standing with God before partaking in it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Would NEVER Support Pastors With Private Jet - The Billy Graham Example by bixton(m): 8:35am On Mar 01, 2021
Enskynelson:
Owning? Stop generalizing. Some remain the properties of the Church and not the Pastor's. If a General Overseer must visit to see to different programmes, in a year, the schedules are always too much that if a commercial airliner mess u up, no one will tell u to pray or wish the ministry has a jet. Flying in a jet is luxury if your purpose flying it is to catch fun. I don't see anything luxury about what genuine Pastors do. They don't even enjoy anything on Earth here. The things you all think they are enjoying, they don't even have time for them in a way you all think.
Evangelism in a commercial liner is fine. But there's when the schedule does not permit such. Also, stop thinking that the fact that 'they own' a jet means they will not fly commercial at all again. It's not.
When a GO dies then you'll know if that jet is church property or personal property. I see you keep mentioning geninue pastor.

I do not know what you mean by enjoyment. Nevertheless If they don't enjoy anything here on earth then let's see how many of them will give their riches to the very less privilege in their church.

The best enjoyment anyone can have is to have Christ Jesus in one's life.

Happy New Month of March. May the windows of heaven be open to you and yours to receive special and unique blessings and favour from God in Jesus name, Amen.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Would NEVER Support Pastors With Private Jet - The Billy Graham Example by bixton(m): 9:44pm On Feb 28, 2021
Enskynelson:
I get your point. It is true the disciples achieved a lot without jets and the equal as in their days but note that however even in their days, Paul achieved much more because he was able to move (check Paul's Missionary Journey). Every person have their vision.
Let me ask u this. Do u think it is a luxury for a Church that has branches in about 170 countries to have a jet to facilitate their work? Why on Earth do we all see jet as luxury especially when the work demands such to make it efficient? Is it the buying it that's a luxury or u see seating in a jet as an enjoyment? I have a different view sincerely. To me, luxury is not just anything expensive but something expensive that you don't really need or not so important. Do u think a jet will make their work more efficient or not? Do you see any need for it or not? That's the question. Real Pastors don't have time for enjoyment. The don't enjoy food (spends many days of the year fasting). They don't enjoy sleep (stay up to pray every nights)... Have u asked yourself how the real men of God cope with the enormous work?
There's a reason I keep saying read your Bible well....

A church has 170 branches ............and the G.O deems it fit to appoint other pastors to stay as resident pastors and each local branch have their own executives even to executives based on zones/districts.........

Now the real question is with all this setup who truly is the CEO of the church?
Who supervises the church.....the pastor or the God?
Or you still think a church business can be likened to that of dangote business.....

I do not know what you mean by efficiency of jet usage!!!!! Like I asked, is it the jet that carries the message of God or the man?

Do you know how many people God will use the pastor to minister to of he enters a public plane even if he books the VVIP section?


I do not know how they cope to do God's work. All I know is that men are vessels to do God's work. Do you know how John the Baptist coped in the wilderness eating honey and carmel meat to do God's work?
Do you know how Prophet Elijah coped in doing God's work when he was fed by God with meat through ravens.........

You said Paul achieved much because he moved......what was he mode of movement,.,...., simply put as a commoner. Just the same way Christ Jesus did.


Do you not think they could also have used chariots of horses which I would say is the fastest on land or even own a ship of their own if they were to go on sea.........at least just to facilitate the work as you put it
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:24pm On Feb 28, 2021
zuraking:
What's your view on this pop design and the painting done on it?

Tho just 3-4 lights will be there. I don't like too much light.
It's not about the number of lights but the illumination to the area of coverage.....

So if you're going for only max of 4 lights ensure the wattage for each bulb gives the required illumination to the area.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Essence Of Feet Washing in the church ? by bixton(m): 7:18pm On Feb 28, 2021
Princewell2012:
If you're the one will you ask him? I know it is biblical and it is in the Bible, but I just want to know the basic meaning for feet washing. I can also learn from you, don't you think so?
Please try and create a relationship with your pastor. Also if you see that as a hard task then do that with your house fellowship leader or Sunday school teacher or any other senior pastor you're drawn to.

I ask my pastor questions as it concerns the Scripture pertaining to things I don't understand.

I wanted you to know from your pastor so you know your ministry's view as to why they do feet washing.



Now if you read the Scriptures carefully the reason why Jesus did such to His disciples was to let them know that even as they were called to lead as leaders they ought to be servants and not lord themselves over others.

Another is that every one is expected to cater for his/her fellow brethren spiritually and physically according to what he/she possess in love willingly.

Also it's another form of cleaning/cleansing that keeps the church as one in Christ. This last was why Jesus said this to Peter .....John.13.8 - Peter said to Him, "You shall never wash my feet!" Jesus answered him, "If I do not wash you, you have no part with Me"

The bold here speaks about cleansing and final commissioning for His disciples to carry on the work of God from where Jesus will leave them as He was to be crucified.

The verse below is a conclusion to that...

John.13.20 - Most assuredly, I say to you, he who receives whomever I send receives Me; and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me."
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Would NEVER Support Pastors With Private Jet - The Billy Graham Example by bixton(m): 5:58pm On Feb 28, 2021
Enskynelson:
Are u serious with the question or u are being sarcastic?
Apostle Paul had several missionary journey that if there were jets then and he had one, he would have achieved more!
Agree with me that to Christians, Church is a serious business. In fact, the Bible makes us to understand that winning soul is the great commission. If Dangote whose business is not serious to Christians as to winning souls NEED a jet to facilitate his business, how much more a General Overseer. Your problem and the problem of many other person's is that, they see private jet as luxury. Yes, you are right. It is a luxury but to only those who it doesn't seem an essential property to help facilitate the business.
Some real Men Of God don't get good sleep, they are up praying for many hours all day. Some fast for most days of the year. They don't even have time for their family. The have Branches all over the world to oversee... Just imagine any franchise of such and the CEO has a private jet. Would u consider it a luxury?
Read your Bible very well and maybe if you've got the spirit to discern you'll understand the question I asked you..........


Do you not know that Jesus and any of His disciples could have chosen to ride on chariots of horses to go about doing this same business of God but did in the way as written in the Scriptures.......


It's not the jet that conveys the message of God.

Maybe having a jet is of necessity but looking at the way it's been used says it's a luxury.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Essence Of Feet Washing in the church ? by bixton(m): 5:28pm On Feb 28, 2021
Princewell2012:
Happy Sunday to you all. Let me make it brief.

In John chapter 13. from verse 4 He riseth from supper and laid aside his garments, and took a towel and girded himself. 5. After that he poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples feet and to wipe them with the towel where with his was girded.

Let me stop here, what actually is the essence of these?

Because some today's churches are doing it very often, and my feet have also been washed several times in the church. But I believe something is missing somewhere.

To my own understanding I think Jesus was just trying to emphasize about sharing and caring with each others as a Christian, I don't believe he gave it as a practice or a commandment for us to be washing our feet physically when ever we are gathered in the church.

Am just confused, does anyone knows a better meaning For these. Even those mega churches do practice it too.


Shalom.
Why don't ask the pastor in your church where your feet was washed what it means before coming to ask if it's in line with the Scripture
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Would NEVER Support Pastors With Private Jet - The Billy Graham Example by bixton(m): 5:25pm On Feb 28, 2021
Enskynelson:
I don't know of the 2,3,4. But before you ask why General Overseers have private jets, go and find out their work schedule for a year! Don't just sit in your house with no information and expect yourself to have a good judgement. I remembered Apostle Johnson Suleman once criticised those that have private jets. When his ministry grew, same him came on to apologise that he never knew until he was in some situations and wished he had one. I watched the video.
Please answer this question.......
You spoke about their work schedule

How great is their work schedule compared to that of Apostles Peter and Paul
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Would NEVER Support Pastors With Private Jet - The Billy Graham Example by bixton(m): 5:19pm On Feb 28, 2021
Enskynelson:
How many times? Try and find out how many times some travel out of Nigeria in a year. Since u seem to know, u can let us know the exact number of times.
The OP comparing a ministry that owns no Church to other ministries that have Churches is not right. An evangelist is different from a Pastor. Billy Graham was an Evangelist. OP should stop comparing how he achieved his goals with how pastors did.
What is the meaning of a pastor and an evangelist?
What do you mean by a ministry?
Who truly owns a ministry?

How did Christ Jesus went about walking the streets, roads, mountains, hills,etc, etc.....preaching the gospel of salvation.........

Try reading your Bible?
Politics › Re: Dangote Wants Only Refinery License Holders To Import Fuel by bixton(m): 3:23pm On Feb 28, 2021
ShobayoEmma:
Trying to put up his monopolistic agenda in motion in petrochemical sector too. But note this, before the North will use you to indirectly front their economy diversionary to the North; the South would have by far become a separate country where there will be equity, Justice and peace.
Do you not know the Southerners are also behind him? There are those who work behind the scenes.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:07am On Feb 28, 2021
n3xt:
Happy New Week!!
Happy Last Sunday!!
Happy Last Day of the Month!!!

This reminds me of Sir daysan grin grin He so much detest people doing the above.

Let me drop this here this morning.


______

Pic - Extraordinary Space Management
Is this a Nigerian thing or .......

Which kind of head thought about this .
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:05am On Feb 28, 2021
n3xt:
Final answer. Don Jazzy loved it.

According to Don Jazzy, he was sick with interiors and @defhills hooked him up with his minimalist vibe - something calming and peaceful. That’s the hallmark of contemporary builds.

24 hours later, over 300k celebrity looking up to something similar liked it .
It's a normal thing about so called celebrities abi yeyebrities as some have been known for.
When they start having issues you'll see that many live fake lives.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:01am On Feb 28, 2021
n3xt:
Yes.. the ideas is really not to like it. Contemporary builds are meant to be comfortable and welcoming without being busy, cluttered and loud. Unlike traditional architectures, the interiors of contemporary builds tend to showcase space rather than things.

grin grin
Please explain more on the bolded......
Politics › Re: FG To Sell Oil In Naira To Dangote Refinery by bixton(m): 7:53am On Feb 28, 2021
chatinent:
The plan is to sell to themselves at cheap rates so they can resell to us, and export at a good rate.


The name Dangote is a haven for all political fraud.


They make up Dangote. Dangote is just a name.
Just like Ali baba and his 40 thiefs.
Politics › Re: FG To Sell Oil In Naira To Dangote Refinery by bixton(m): 7:52am On Feb 28, 2021
QuotaSystem:
Dangote's refinery will definitely be a game changer for the Nigerian economy.

What a genius strategy. Imagine a scenario where other African countries would be looking for Nigerian Naira in order to purchase Nigerian Petroleum Products. It would increase the organic demand for our currency thereby boosting its value significantly.



This does not make sense. There is no way Dangotes petrol would be more expensive because not only has the issue of landing cost been eliminated since we're no longer importing, but the market has also been deregulated (which is why we suffer price hikes whenever price of crude or USD rises).

You're right about elimination of subsidy which will save us significant amounts of money, but even greater benefits would come from saving millions of USD daily that would have been wasted to import refined petrol (a whopping 41% of our forex saved) : further boosting our foreign reserves and the value of the Naira. The multiplier benefits from job creation and development of allied industries to support the refinery and petrochemical plant are better imagined.

Finally, the disgraceful economic anomaly wherein the 6th largest oil producer in the world is one of the biggest importers of petrol from less endowed countries, and continuously suffers whenever crude prices rise instead of enjoying the largesse like fellow oil producers, will finally come to an end thanks to Dangote's refinery. I wish him the best and I'm excited for Nigeria.
Deceitfulness to those who choose to remain gullible..

It's just a matter of time and Russia will rise.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 1:59pm On Feb 27, 2021
Jasobry:
Nothing beats a buglary embedded in the wall.
Something will beat it when the right people comes close to it.
I know of someone who can bend a 16mm rods fixed into a wall with his bare hands.
I was in Nassarawa State(Keffi) for a job and thiefs got into one of the houses in the compound by just using a large stone to hit the burglary at the dining section and gained entrance in the house. They made away with some laptops, flat screen tv and monies. The parents of the house were not around but the children were in. This happened at about 2am.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 1:15pm On Feb 27, 2021
RockOfAgesAlumi:
Separate burglary is not needed anymore again
Thanks
Have you tried using square rods in place of what you have there.........
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 6:30pm On Feb 25, 2021
BuildingProject:
I'm aware of those points of yours but I need to fix a door inside one of the rooms below to start keeping materials like generator and cements cause water is entering into the storehouse built with pan whereby making all the cements to harden.

Without removing those bamboo, it will be difficult to move in materials. And my intention is for the person to remove them smoothly and arrange them to one side until it is needed at the parapet stage again and the pillars.
If you still insist on removing your boards kindly tell the carpenter to arrange the boards in layers of 3 or 5 and nail them together before keeping them in a safe place properly packed.
Business › Re: Bitcoin Can Be Used For 'Illegal' Purposes - US Regulators by bixton(m): 2:26pm On Feb 25, 2021
Billyonaire666:
Makes no sense.

If you invest $100K on bitcoin as a store of value, you will expect it to double in value within a very short period of time, as a smart investor, you should withdraw the $100K in 3 digits batches and have just your profit sitting there to the moon.

The crypto future guarantees enjoyable future without work.

Just invest in future tech IPOs and ICOs and sit back and read books and watch movies and 'eat' from your money working in the hands of tech engineers and their technologies.

Savvy?

This is the future that your dull Federal Government is too ignorant to foresee.
They won't see it because they need ignorant gullible people like them during election seasons to campaign for them.
Business › Re: Bitcoin Can Be Used For 'Illegal' Purposes - US Regulators by bixton(m): 2:25pm On Feb 25, 2021
TheRareGem1:
And when CBN said the same thing in Nigeria people thought it was out of ignorance.

Many people even drag Osinbajo...abeg is he the CBN governor or the President?

Nigerians.
Absolutely out of ignorance.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 4:25pm On Feb 23, 2021
somehow:
Rewriting of the constitution (by representatives elected by real people from every LG) is one way


Another option is a referendum by elected representatives from every region.

e Don do.

Na construction thread we dey.
grin grin grin grin
If you say so then the Nigerian constitution needs to undergo a contemporary construction.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:56pm On Feb 23, 2021
somehow:
Do we have a common goal as a Nigerian?

What makes a Nigerian a Nigerian when we don't even know in clear term what makes a Yoruba from Ijebu and the yoruba from Ilesha Yoruba?

When we have a common goal or ideology, then you can talk about working together.

Make I no flood this place.
Who do you think will create it @ the bold?
It's the response that will make all other things fall into their rightful place in time.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:44pm On Feb 23, 2021
kopell:
My brother why will you assume funds is the issue, every individual choice and interest is different. If people can spend 1 million to buy one single door, are you telling me that person can’t afford to build burglar for his or her windows. It may be easier for you to build it separately, you most be ready to face challenges of creativity as public demand for it. I’ve seen many of your products that are model in style you’re very good in what you do. I’m waiting to see you fabricate a windows with burglary opening for safety including mosquitoes net in a single window. I think you should think of it.
He is a welder and not an alumco fabricator. Though that can be accomplished by him if he is given the both jobs as a single unit. I do not think embedded burglary into casement windows is a difficult task.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:39pm On Feb 23, 2021
somehow:
The 1983 overthrow cited the same, hope you know?

To me, our problems started from the first republic enroute the second republic.

The greatest undoing was changing from regional system of government to what we currently have.

It's a total rubbish
All the high buildings you're talking about are products of regional system of government.
To the first bold....
If we had not had the nigerian/biafran war then it would still be.

To the second bold.....
Nothing stops those of the old region to have a common ground to work together to bring economic prosperity to their region.

The mentality of the typical nigerian is to work as an individual rather than as a people.
Politics › Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara Is Muslim State, Take Your Mission Schools To Rivers - MURIC by bixton(m): 8:57am On Feb 23, 2021
Tranquility4u:
I see no reason why Muslim students should be denied
their constitutional rights.

All Muslim students, in particular, female students should be allowed to dress in Hijab since these schools are for the public.


“Are the schools not grant-aided? So you want to use
public money to persecute Muslim children until they
submit to forceful conversion? Even if they are
missionary schools, must they force female Muslim
students to strip? We are not surprised because it is
part of their old way of forceful conversion. Nigerian
Christians should desist from using Muslim children to
subject their parents to psychological trauma. We will
not go back to slavery. Enough is enough.
It's called a public school for certain reasons. That same public school is a missionary school and should be run according to the dictates of the christian religion.

Let those who belong to Islam go attend their Islamic/Arabic schools. It's that easy. What is the correlation between Islam and western education ?

And your principal is saying those who are against hijab are living in outdated times!!!! Funny isn't it. Can he say same for those of the muslim community in kwara and Nigeria at largehuh

If the public schools are funded by grant monies...please who funds the Arabic schools or why can't the Arabic schools also sort out their own grants too. Is it that difficult to do!!
Politics › Re: Goodluck Jonathan Complains Of Neglect By PDP by bixton(m): 10:30am On Feb 22, 2021
ijustdey:
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/02/22/jonathan-complains-of-neglect-by-pdp/


Lalasticlala
Are these words the exact from the mouth GEJ?
He will only end up to bring shame to himself.
It appears GEJ does not understand what is self respect. Maybe all has not been well as the populace have been made to believe.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:24am On Feb 22, 2021
adanny01:
2ft 10" wide
6ft 10" high

Remember 1ft is 12"

That's why I always prefer metric
Door leaf he says.....
Just get a tape and actually measure it to see the actual .... grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by bixton(m): 7:05am On Feb 22, 2021
haekymbahd:
The same God also said
Isaiah 42
11 Let the wilderness and its cities lift up their voices, the villages that Kedar inhabits. Let the inhabitants of the rock [Sela or Petra] sing; let them shout from the tops of the mountains!

12 Let them give glory to the Lord and declare His praise in the islands and coastal regions.

16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they know not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known. I will make darkness into light before them and make uneven places into a plain. These things I have determined to do [for them]; and I will not leave them forsaken.

17 They shall be turned back, they shall be utterly put to shame, who trust in graven images, who say to molten images, You are our gods.

24 Who gave up Jacob [the kingdom of Judah] for spoil, and [the kingdom of] Israel to the robbers? Was it not the Lord, He against Whom we [of Judah] have sinned and in Whose ways they [of Israel] would not walk, neither were they obedient to His law or His teaching?

25 Therefore He poured out upon [Israel] the fierceness of His anger and the strength of battle. And it set him on fire round about, yet he knew not [the lesson of repentance which the Assyrian conquest was intended to teach]; it burned him, but he did not lay it to heart.

Allah SWT said:

"And mention in the Book, Ishmael. Indeed, he was true to his promise, and he was a messenger and a prophet."
(QS. Maryam 19: Verse 54)

"And [mention] when We made the House a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And take, [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 125)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com
It's one thing to quote the Holy Bible and it's another thing to actually understand it and interpret it.

When you compare the contents of the Holy Bible to that of the Qur'an do you really think those who belong to each worship the One same God?

It's one thing to have different religious views but it's entirely another to be serving the same God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by bixton(m):
haekymbahd:
Are you trying to say the Jews and Christians follow the same holy book.. Kindly distinguish between Torah and Gospel


What do you understand by the law of Torah ?

Why would the same God give different Holy Books Torah and Gospel.. The Jews don't follow Gospel neither do Christians follow law of Torah they believed law has been abolished..

Allah SWT said:

"The Jews say The Christians have nothing [true] to stand on, and the Christians say, The Jews have nothing to stand on, although they [both] recite the Scripture. Thus the polytheists speak the same as their words. But Allah will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that over which they used to differ."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 113)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

On the issue of Muhammad being mentioned in the Bible we as Muslims believed Prophet Muhammad is the comforter Jesus
was talking about to guide to all truth
either you accept or not it's your choice...

Why will I argue the bolded!!!.

The comforter(Holy Spirit) whom Jesus Christ spoke about in the Holy Bible is Prophet Mohammed in the Qur'an according to you

hope you know kedar is one of children of ishmael
Genesis 25
13 These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, named in the order of their births: Nebaioth, the firstborn of Ishmael, and Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam,

14 Mishma, Dumah, Massa,

15 Hadad, Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah.

Now where is kedar located answer Arabia

Isaiah 21:13
13 The mournful, inspired prediction (a burden to be lifted up) concerning Arabia: In the forests and thickets of Arabia you shall lodge, O you caravans of Dedanites [from northern Arabia].

14To the thirsty [Dedanites] bring water, O inhabitants of the land of Tema [in Arabia]; meet the fugitive with bread [suitable] for him.

15For they have fled from the swords, from the drawn sword, from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of war [the press of battle].

......... [b]all the glory of Kedar [an Arabian tribe] will fail


Is this bold above a typo error ? If it's not do you know what this actually means(don't ask me to explain further)?



17And the remainder of the number of archers and their bows, the mighty men of the sons of Kedar, will be diminished and few; for the Lord, the God of Israel, has spoken it.
[/b]

Muhammad is from Arabia decsndant of Kedar descendant of ishmael

I try not to hold biased views when I read or do research. But from the numerous documents online there's no actual verified facts to that as to that geneology. It's based only on assumption.



Now if you are being honest you will realise that God specifically made a convenat Ishmael.. So don't compare Ishmael to the rest of Abraham's other children unless you show proof where God specifically made covenant with Abraham other children

It's just plain english and easy to understand.
When God made a convenant with Abraham who did God speak to?

Yes...God made a convenant with Ishmael but did God speak directly to Ishmael or his mother in making the convenant ?


Genesis 16
11 And the Angel of the Lord continued, See now, you are with child and shall bear a son, and shall call his name Ishmael [God hears], because the Lord has heard and paid attention to your affliction.

12 And he [Ishmael] will be as a [b]wild ass among men; his hand will be against every man and every man's hand against him, and he will live to the east and on the borders of all his kinsmen.


I didn't getting what you meant here....

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