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Rexceedo:
No sketch boss.

Thanks anyway.
He's quoting 500k for Labor and Supervision till DPC

Are you implying you're building that sort of structure without doing a (proper)design( not even a handy sketch)...........

Interesting.......

beauty7:
I am not saying that those dead people that are seen are not demons.

What someone should avoid is just believing something because people are believing it or because we interpret it from the bible.

Such interpretation could be wrong.

A lot of pastors had analysed the bible and came to the conclusion on when Christ would come,but the time passed and Christ did not come.

Someone can see a thing or word from the bible and use it to generalize everything.

But it does not work like that.

You need God to interprete every thing or every word of the bible to show where it applies and where history would repeat itself.

If your desire is that at death,people cease to exist,you will like that solomon statement about the dead not knowing anything.

It is because you are so desparate to have it your own way,that is why you would clinge unto that solomon statement.

There is another one about lazarus in Abraham's bosom and the rich man in hell.

How do we now reconcile the 2 positions.

Since you have accepted solomon statement about death,you will do everything to deny the reality of the rich man being in hell.

But like i said earlier,God created the world in such a way that 2 opposing realities coexist since He is the God of diversity.

That is why Solomon view of death and the story of lazarus and the rich man exist side by side.

Someone said that everything you can think of is happening somewhere,if not on this earth but in another world.

There was a reason I ask what religion you are or to put it right what are your religious views?!!!!
The view of Solomon and the story of Lazarus and the rich man are completely two different scenarios on different contexts. Yes you can bring it side by side running a comparison but you'll still not get it because you'll looking at just one perspective.
God is not static but dynamic.
I don't do generalization in it's entirety.
The Word which I read from the Scripture I take it 1000% .

Whatever reasons those pastors said that Jesus is coming some 2000 years ago and have not come is best known to them. The Scripture is very clear as to when Jesus will come and what events will occur prior to His coming.

One question we should all ask ourselves is that how prepared are we when He comes?? Will He find faith on this earth amongst us

While being bothered about one man's interpretation about the coming of Jesus as it is yet to occur, the other is to understand that at the point of death of an individual we know not what will or has become of him/her.

I'd like you to read Acts 12:15...........then read from verse 14-17 again. Tell me what you make of it.

Beliefs are based on foundations. Seek the right foundation and build continuously on it. If you desire to know God, He will make Himself known to you. He made Himself known to Moses in the form of a (unburnt) burning bush. He also made Himself known to Cornelius of the Italian regiment and also to Apostle Paul.

While trying to compare the statement of Solomon and the story of the Lazarus and the rich man or Lazarus in Abraham's bosom in getting to understand one and trying to diminish the other.......

What do you also make of Matthew 8:22..........

Ghost or demons are of no great importance to God. God is most concerned about the Living and those who want to be amongst the Living.

beauty7:
Because of reports about seeing of ghosts,

some people met to decide what to call those ghosts.

They decided that they were not actually the dead people but demons.

It was just an assumption without any proof.

That assumption could be false.

It doesn't matter whether they were Christians,bishops,pastors, imams who started that assumption.

The point is how true was that assumption?

As far as we are human beings,we cannot just know everything and conclude everything even if you are the pope or bishop of the world.

So the assumption now becomes the belief that we have today that if you see someone who died, you have seen a demon.

If you read something about prophesies in all religions of the world, you would discover that human beings made a lot of false assumption and have unfulfilled expectations as far as all religions are concerned.

If there is so much unfulfilled expectations and false assumptions, what makes you think that the belief in ghosts being demons is not false?

The point is that the belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God who died for us is the truth that must be accepted.



But so many assumptions and twisting of the Bible to justify our assumptions may not be true.

If Solomon wrote in the Bible that the dead does not know anything,it was his personal understanding which may not be necessarily true in our own time.

What if the dead people are still alive somewhere thanks to the coming of Jesus Christ who abolished death.

We cannot use one instance in the Bible to conclude everything.

God is a God of diversity

He didn't permit the dead rich man to send Lazarus back to his people to warn them of hell.

There could be another instance which He can permit such to happen because He is a God of diversity.

There is nothing you think of that is not happening in this world because God is a God of diversity and makes sure everything you can think of is already happening.

I'd appreciate if you can explain the bold..


I just wanted to know your religious views. That which King Solomon said is not an assumption and still applies to the times we are. It's only the understanding and interpretation of an individual that makes it outdated.

A ghost is different from a demon.
Spirituality comes in levels and stages.

If you are a reader of the Bible you'll see that God told the Israelites not to practice divination.

A prophecy becomes an assumption when people go into calculated theories trying to get a desirable outcome.

Those who prophecy come under the influence of a superior authority............that is why the Bible also say tests all spirits.

If you are a believer and just because a prophecy comes true does not mean it comes from God( the Bible talked about such if you do your research)........one ought to have a good understanding of the Scripture and relationship with God to be able to discern certain things.


It's also known that people under a false pretence have been known to prophecy but it also depends on the listening audience.

beauty7:
People would say that they are demons, but there is no proof that they are demons.

What if they are actually the people who died?

We cannot just assume that they are demons simply because some religious people believe so.


They may be demons Sha.

Are you a Christian or Religious person or which

Cc...MaxInDHouse

internationalman:
To everyone reading this, would it be cool with you if your dad opt for a DNA test to confirm you are his biological son...

Be sincere with your answers please

You have already responded to your question.

The option for a man to raise or continue to raise another's child with his money under his roof should be made by him and not placed on him by deception.

Every promiscuous woman should go back to her parents house.

saydfact:
MORNING ALL - I'm reading a few post from n3xt/brabus and few others - and I feel (without disrespect) a lot of CONTRACTORS don't have adequate knowledge about how contracts are run - IF you've worked with the biggest consultants in the industry you would understand what I'm about to type.

AGAIN WITHOUT DISRESPECT....

1. Even if the client allows you to buy and install whatever (door, showers, even BULB as simple as that is) - An experienced contractor/builder/consultant should know that there is something called CLIENT'S APPROVAL. This means, before I pay for THAT N500 bulb, I need a written approval within 7 days (or official email) confirming that the product is OK. This MUST be gotten before payment - and once delivered IF client's wife (or whoever) don't like it - you just bring out the approval and all related cost (return, re-purchasing, logistic etc) is 100% on them. NOTE, A VERBAL APPROVAL IS NO APPROVAL IF NOT PUT IN WRITING WITHIN 7 DAYS; so Oga was at the store with me and he said BUY IT is not an approval...... that's what a lot of you hold on to.

2. IF Mr A contracts me to build his DOG'S HOUSE and along the line, I'm unable to complete the work - BECAUSE OF UNFORSEEN events, as a contractor - you do NOT assume, since its not your fault that his work was abandoned you do not owe him... SIR, YOU OWE HIM - The deal was to build a dog house, not an in-complete dog house (even if it was client's wife that stopped the work because she suddenly hates dog and want's a cat). WHAT A SINCERE CONTRACTOR should do is.... PRESENT A FINAL ACCOUNT. Stating clearly HOW MUCH WAS GOTTEN, HOW MUCH WAS SPENT AND HOW MUCH WAS LOST AS A RESULT OF DE-MOBILIZING FROM SITE - then agree with the client on who owes who.... NOTE: Even if the client was owing you at the time the decision was made; you DON'T assume because I lost, no need - YOU DO WHAT PROFESSIONALS DO - A final account, it is then you can hold you heads high and say - I DO NOT OWE YOU.

I'LL STOP HERE FOR NOW - MAYBE I'LL WRITE A FEW ARTICLES ON (real life) CASE STUDIES FROM VARIOUS SITE....

WE SHOULD BE HERE TO LEARN AND TEACH EACH OTHER BUT A LOT OF CONTRACTORS HERE ARE JUST HERE FOR THE CLIENT AND PAY....

FINALLY; I'M A CONTRACTOR TOO.... but relationship over money I preach.

GOODLUCK, I SaydFact

How about the contractor sends via whatsapp various pix of the materials to the client to pick from and he OKs those he prefers........Will that still be legal or illegitimate?

Apologist02:
It is a family member project so any amount saved is not my gain. I just want to do the right thing with the least cost. Thank you for the advice.

Let's just assume least cost does not lead to least quality.
As your very first project coming from a family member it's paramount you don't do short cuts especially for the foundation of the build.

What is the nature of your land type?

BrabusNG:
Sure.

Before we begin to cast aspersions on people, let’s always remember a story does not always start at the end.

In any conversation, I don’t just listen. I listen completely to understand. I don’t listen to reply.


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Let’s beat about the bush small. Maybe we will find a very good bushmeat.

In 2013, a client raised an allegation against Brabus that he defrauded him and went ahead to report the case in Special Fraud Unit, Panti, Lagos.

I was invited and like I always do, I went there confidently.

To the rudest shock of the complainant, he thought they would have killed me before he got there but lo I was found waiting for him to arrive and state exactly what happened.

Not all officers are useless. There are very intelligent people in the force and I give it to them.

They asked me “You we’re given money to do some job and you didn’t do it. You just ate the money.”

I smiled and replied “Sir, houses do not start with windows and neither do houses get built in 5 days. I was given money (in tranches) to build a house and I built it over 5 months. We only had issues with delivery of some items which were supplied by subcontractors. If he had brought in those things himself and there was an issue, will he have called it fraud?”

The officer turned to my client and asked “Sir, where’s the fraud part?”

He said “I gave him money for windows and it wasn’t complete. It remain 2.”

The officer replied “That wasn’t fraud na. If you have him money to build a house for you in Port Harcourt and you found the house in Abeokuta, we will quickly get into action because that’s fraud. But here’s a man who stayed in your family house in your hometown for 5 months to build you a house and you’re talking about 2 windows.”
The officer turned to me and asked “When can you bring the remaining windows?”

I told him “They were large windows that has to be fabricated on site. But the issue is, the client is in a rush.”

My client left in annoyance. I stood up and wanted to leave in annoyance too.

Police said “Oga you can’t go o. Is this how rich people behave? .” That was how I and Inspector Alex became friends and Oga refused to come back.

Case closed. No charge. Nothing.

But on nairaland brabus don kill his client o - bla, blah.

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These are verifiable facts. I deal in facts and not some emotional stories.

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## The brabus stories no one will tell you!

Some clients are real full metal character. We thank God for life anyways.

BrabusNG:
It’s 48 hours since allegation was raised against Brabus and the simple request made was that the complainant should tell us how it happened.

I purposely asked so that I can know how to respond to the allegation.

Here’s my account (I do not have all the detailed information on the transaction here but I’ll give a brief account)

- Truly we were engaged to construct a fence in Ibeju Lekki area of Lagos state.

- We moved to site immediately we were mobilized.

- On getting to the site, I realized the land has not been cleared and I requested that it should be cleared so that we can know exactly the area we are working.

- The client engaged people to do that and we commence the fence work.

- We started with the right side (when facing land). However on getting midway, we found another old fence which shows someone has done something around that area before a very long time ago. This created a very useless piece of land in between the land we are working on and the old fence found in the bush.

- When we got to the back, we found another fence.

- I informed the client and we continued our job. We proceed to the frontal part of the land.

- As we were about getting to the point we were shown the land ended, some land urchins (omo onile) came to the site and stopped the work.

- I informed the client and he told me one person will come.

- We will get back to site, the dreary guys will accost us in the bush and send us away again and again.

- This continued for a very long time.

- Accessibility was a major issue on the site as we can’t get heavy truck to get to the main site, so we drop granite some distance away from the site.

- For every time we were stopped and left the site, we will notice our materials has been stolen before we got back to site.

- I used NextHome Dump Truck for the delivery of sand which was gotten at Okun, Ibeju Lekki Lagos. I had to park down the truck for weeks awaiting a permanent resolve.

- Whenever we get to site, a faction will tell us the land is here. Another will come and tell us something different. So completing the last side became almost an impossible mission.

- At a point we started digging a place and they told us the land was beyond the line.

- Sigh!!!

- Eventually we did the blinding and raising of 3rd side and the issue wasn’t resolved. The land wasn’t fully cleared. So we left.

- Months after I got a call from someone on behalf of the client and guess what it was DSS inviting me for fraud.

- I went there and they said the client said I collected his money and didn’t do his work. I smiled.

- My client can use DSS against me but can’t provide ordinary vigilante or police to protect us when we were being disturbed in the thick forest. What an irony!
Well, we are first Nigerian before we travel go obodo oyibo land.

- That I got a contract to construct a fence, does it automatically invested power of attorney in me to act anyhow on the land?

- My question has always been “What should I have done?”

- To continue working on the land when I’m not the land owner, not the surveyor, nor member of the omo onile family?

- To stage a serious fight against the omo oniles because I want to impress my client? If I die, I’d be given a state burial abi?

- To park my granite, sand and other materials in my bag and take them to safety until all issues are resolved?

- When the client asked for refund, I asked myself. Am I supposed to tell the granite supplier that “Sorry o! we didn’t use all the granite because omo onile stopped us so the client need a refund?”

- For anyone who’s familiar with Ibeju Lekki land urchin, you’ll know how dreary they are.


Let me stop here. Let’s hear from the other side.


Can I ask my Oga if all these claims are lies?


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While we were on this project, my client made a double payment of over a million naira to my account and I called his attention to it and transferred the money back to him.


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Part 2: Communication Palava

A lot of people in diaspora do one funny thing I’d like to share. They’d use a line no one can reach them on to call their contractors/family members/friends etc so anytime there’s something urgent and important you have to wait for their call.

It’s the most useless thing I’ve ever seen. Please don’t work with people you don’t trust. Work with your family members or trusted allies and make communication as easy as possible.

Life is not difficult if we chose to live simple.

Isn’t it shocking that I just got to know the userid my client after almost 5 years? In fact, the userid just followed me 2 days ago and we were working together on multi-million naira project.


More updates on this in Part 2.


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Part 3 - Photobomb

Was there no existing surveyed beacons on the land before you commenced the fencing?


There are certain projects that I expect the client or his/her representative to be available on site at least the first 7 days of project commencement.............

n3xt:
I agree completely. We are first human and we are prone to errors.

For the kind of job skimanski does, I would understand if he had requested for more time.

He’s everything I ever want to be

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The job (by skimanski) in the pic below is not for the regulars.

I took a second look at this job and I cannot but say this guy is fantastic.


Get back in winning ways bro!

What structure type is this? Those circular openings what are their functions

vickzie:
none. but I charged based on the prevailing economic conditions at that time, this month makes it a year I'm supposed to have received payment. the suppose money can currently afford half of what it's supposed to have afforded 12 months ago. does that mean he can withhold the payment till 2050 when it's would probably be worthless and still be justified. if it was the other way around whereby I withheld his funds for the 12 months, and abandoned the project, if I request for more funds and he refuses, can he take legal action against me since no contract was signed, just gentleman agreement.

It's such a worrisome experience.
Well the value for money when it ought be 12 months ago will be somewhat lower as at now. You have exercised patience, please continue in it. Some clients are full metal characters. If it had been the reverse even your village people may hear of it. You'll just still be reminding the client anyways through the medium you usually communicate. Just be optimistic anyway when it comes irrespective of its value it will still be used to sort some personal things for yourself.

vickzie:
does it also apply to payment for services rendered. a client is owing me a substantial amount when dollar was 360, now that money is worth half the value it's worth then, mind you client is a diasporan, earns in $, now he's gonna spend less $ to pay me up whenever he deems fit, he gains, I loose. mind you this was a gentleman agreement, no contract.

Was there any agreement even gentle manly that the payment for your services will be in $$ or N......

n3xt:
Sir, recession and covid wreck a lot of havoc on so many projects last year (especially big contractors).

I was on the site of someone here on project inspection in the last quarter of 2020. I can remember his contractor came to request for variation on the roof project he was handling for him. It wasn’t a small amount as the project is very big.

The lockdown wrecked a lot of people who were sitting on monies but couldn’t get their orders fulfilled because most companies aren’t working in full capacity. No one want to tie down their monies in midst of uncertainties.

Between last December and this moment, the price of aluminum sheet has gone up by nothing less than N300 per m and most manufacturers who do 10 coils have scaled down to 7 coils and even lesser.

We (manufacturers, service providers, homeowners, tradespeople) are going through a lot at moment and it’s wise for any contractor to allow the owners to provide them all the materials needed for a project or otherwise get their hands burnt.

In December last year, I paid for a roof and when we were about to go and pick up in Lagos, we got information that price has increased and that they’ll refund our money to us. My closeness to system allowed us to get at old rate.
My roofer wanted to collect the money and I told him “Don’t ever try it. We will never get it cheaper elsewhere and if we do the money won’t be complete again. Let me speak with Leon.”

What I’m trying to pass across is at times some issues happen not because a contractor have evil intentions but because we operate in a chaotic business climate and no one seems to care.

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Aluminium profiles is another crazy materials to watch. As at today, any smart window contractor must first confirm the market price before he gives quotation to his client. If not... it might end in tears like my friend michlins always say.

Baba we understand all this things. The client mentioned about contacting the contractor around June/July.......can't say when actual cash payment was done but if this happened between July and October for cash transfers then the excuse of material price variation/availability should be something that must have been trashed.
Now I do not think any roofer removes an old sheet without proper confirmation that the replacement is on site or on the way to the site especially when you know very well that the owner of the structure sleeps in the house.
In this scenario you don't de-roof completely na. It's removed in bits and replaced accordingly.

MrOkenwa:
Chief, I’m not in the mood to shalaye. Nobody in his right sense will do what skimanski did to that family. I’m even still wondering why it took them this far before dragging him on here.
I just hope and pray that the issue gets resolved asap.

Well in this forum there are so many things that happen behind the scene. What happens offline here exceeds that done online.

If I'm not mistaken I think the client complained here sometime around December 2020 or thereabout.........


My sympathy goes to the elderly woman of the house who is going through undue stress.

zuraking:
The mute (laywer) moderator we think never existed now pop out from nowhere cos of this particular case. If you can't moderate or have time to moderate, tell seun to put another person.

Whatever that prompt the moderator to come out now to speak is very very insignificant giving that there are even still other issues that have lingered that I felt should have been sorted out.


Whatever that which is happening behind the scenes especially those who have helped in addressing certain issues, your efforts are well applauded but I think you all have to up your game.

It's very very unprofessional for anyone to de-roof a living house with household items and leave it undone for more than 48 hours!¡!!!!!

No matter the circumstances the contractor might be passing through it's just plain wickedness on his part.

MrOkenwa:
Sorry about this. Hopefully, the contractor will respond to the allegation as directed by the moderator.
Please reassure mama that all will be fine soonest. Cheers

Is he going to reassure mama that the rain water already in her house has not spoilt her belongings?

Or what kind of reassurance will he give her?

What would have prompt him not to have honour the contract within the shortest possible duration?

Is there actually any crime for someone to turn down an offer?


Some stories just no good to hear at all. We look up to people and before you know funny syoriesy start coming up which actually as supposed not to occur.

erico2k2:
I think 1524sqm is one full plot

One full plot is 465SQM. That's the generally accepted value used by Land Surveyors for calculation.

But different States have 100*50(ft) and 60*120(ft) as full plot. I have also come see some places that give 100*100(ft) as full plot.

n3xt:
He must be an architect who do just exactly what the client asked him to do.

It's always like "I'm a red cap chief... put red carpet on the pedestrian gate.... I want jacuzzi inside the guest toilet. Put elephant tusk on the roof."

Well good a thing that it was not built as pix 1.
There are certain buildings on land that when you hear the amount the owner out into the construction works you'll wonder how the engineer/ builder even went about building such.

n3xt:
In architecture, form follows function. So when we do home design, we need to rethink the why, the how and the what?




Has anyone seen the new Jude Okoye (P-Square) house? That's a house!

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Before meets After!

Pic 1 - A well designed house with Pillars, Quoins, Concrete Fascia, Curves, Round Pillars, Gerald, and even red carpet for the red cap chief
Pic 2 - Clean lines, no ugly and fugly burglaries (same naija where people dey spend fortune on burglar proofs)...

The person that designed pic 1 is from where ??

n3xt:
He must have bought a very cheap plan.

You like quarrel baba........

n3xt:
Baba, you’re going too far!

Most people don’t pay attention to the orientation of their building in order to maximize air flow.

I do not use ACs in my house because I took into cognizance the shape, height, orientation and planning of my building to take advantage of natural ventilation.

Buildings must be positioned in relation to the variation in the sun’s path

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This one na basic. You still hold on to old school knowledge.

Newborns don't actually do such. They are all interested in 3Ds.

n3xt:
Immediately I finished The Reserve by NextHome, two clients approached me to share the design with them in the same area.

One of them said I want exactly what I’m seeking here. Let’s try and replicate it on my site.

The picture below shows the challenge we went through during the modification of the plan.

The time we spent trying to modify the design to fit the clients land could have been spent working on a fresh design.

Pic 1 - The Reserve by NextHome

Pic 2 - The design couldn’t fit the clients land because of the irregular shape of the plot.

Pic 3 - We tried cutting the building into two.

Pic 4 - We keep trying, trying, trying until we got to 8th layout and eventually had to change the design.

What a waste of precious time and resource!!!


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This is just one part of the too many challenges of the project. I’ll try share the structural issue and how a project in the same area ended up costing almost thrice the price of the first build.

I have countless example of projects like these that I can share. It’s worthless picking up drawings online. You’re better off with custom designed homes.

300k would seem a lot but it’ll be worthwhile investment in the long run as it’ll save you headaches and unnecessary challenges.

For an irregular shaped land......you try ooooo
There are lots of things we see on paper while on site and once it doesn't fit in even with the least allowance we just let it go.

Reading your post gets me laughing of a client who went and bought a land of irregular shape and gave me a design that made me to laugh all in the name that it was done by a relative. I slept over night with the plan and told the client that the design is very abnormal. Below is the design.

n3xt:
Too many.

When you buy plans, there’s every tendency you buy inferior plans that do not include all the information necessary to safely build your home.

Unlike the architectural design, structural drawings are not and cannot be designed for universal conditions.

No design can be perfect without input from the homeowner and knowledge of the site.

I can give 3 good examples of projects that I’ve worked on that other people tried to replicate on their land A lot of challenges were met during the construction phase (expensive cost of foundation, wrong building orientation, building size vs land size etc).

Those people absolutely know nothing of construction. Those are the kind of people I refer to as theorists. Engineering Construction is all about application knowledge. Alot of people claim to know but can't apply.


The bolded is one of the most easy thing I've come to know in the industry. I learnt it under one of my lecturer back in school due to personal relationship. His nickname was modifier amongst his colleagues.

winta2008:
Hello House,

We digged septic tank and Soakaway for 6 flats. 3 flats with one septic tank, the other flat with one Septic Tank. And one central Soakaway and we channeled the bathroom and kitchen water to the Soakaway. Within 6 months. The two septic tank Got Filled and the Soakaway. After, we discharged the Septic Tank. We disconnected, the bathroom and kitchen water of 4 flats. But, to my surprise. Within 4 months the septic tank got Filled again.

What could be the problem

What's the depth of the soakaway/septic tank?

Did you completely cast the floor of the soakaway pit?

Is your area water logged or when it rains heavily how is your environment?

neduboo:
One thing I notice about houses built in Anambra state is that the houses always looks beautiful from outside but when you enter the house, the internal designs/plan aren't always good.

Please I'm not trying to critic ur project. I'm only stating my observation

It's not peculiar to only anambra state but to mostly all round the country. Also know that it's at the final consent of the client. So whatever is built them the client approves of it and appreciates it.

So if I may ask how do you prefer the internal of the building to be like..... maybe you can help us with a little sketch. :

MaxInDHouse:
Anyhow you see it just know that FAITH without visible WORKS is DEAD! James 2:18-26

God bless you, and may you have PEACE!

Even a juju priest can rely on this till he meets a higher power.
Being a Christian is not a mechanical experience. The Spirit of the LORD is not static. The I AM is dynamic in all His ways and doings and if our knowledge of Him remains the same over the decades then we are losing in on the proper knowledge of what He intends us to know and do.
My prayer is that no matter our knowledge let us not miss heaven or paradise.
Good Morning this Morning.

Kobojunkie:
What do you understand of the teachings of Jesus Christ?

Thanks. NL a community of interesting minds and characters.

MaxInDHouse:
[3]God has countless spirit sons (angles) in heaven and he often send them to help his earthly subjects ever since the rebellion in the garden of Eden. When these angels are around they either speak or touch the servant of God to pass info on what he/she need to do.
But the Holy Spirit is God's active force that God himself use to control humans in doing his will while angels just keep watching helpless as they wonder how humans are doing God's will without passing the info through them! 1Peter 1:12

So the works of God's Holy Spirit is to energize God's servants so that they can do God's will despite their imperfect state {Act 2:4, 4:31} when God's Holy Spirit is at work you will notice the fruitage in the gathering of imperfect and sinful humans {Galatians 5:22-23} note that for now no human can exhibit all the qualities of God's Holy Spirit even though we were created in God's image, but where God's Holy Spirit is active in the gathering you will see all those qualities in the BODY as a GROUP! Ephesians 4:12


[4]Gifts are in all forms of GROUPS even occultic groups you mentioned earlier have GIFTS so it takes divine wisdom to distinguish between the GIFT of God's Holy Spirit and the WORKS of DEMONS today!

So how do i know that the JWs have the gift of tongue?

Well what was the purpose why this gift was released back in the first century?
It was released so that the good news of God's Kingdom may go round since language barrier may hinder the message from reaching other lands {Act 2:7-12} today JWs speaks all the languages on this planet so God's Holy Spirit is still doing it's WORK as usual!

You just did a review of a book.

MaxInDHouse:
@ bixton

It's not easy to recognize Jesus' true followers today because Satan (deceiver) has formed a lot of GROUPS and these ones are also claiming Christians. 2 Corinthians 11:12-14

If you're not guided by born again Christians you can never figure out the differences between the agents of light and the agents of darkness.

So i'll leave you with just one simple illustration, i don't know where you're or your nationality but you can observe these two countries to grasp what we're saying here.
China and Nigeria!
China is a communist nation so they don't carry professional titles on their head but Nigeria is a Capitalist nation where everyone wants to be addressed with titles.
Nigerians have Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Physicists, Mathematicians, Geographers, Agricultural Scientists and all of them with first class grades yet Nigerians are lacking in all those fields because all those professionals title holders only go about with paper qualifications they are not performing!

I'm a contractor and i deal with CCECC, i only know Chinese performing here and there in all fields nobody knows their qualifications yet the whole world can feel their impact!

That's the difference between JWs who only get to work and misinformed Churchgoers who keeps big religious titles whereas they only bully people around them, their impact is not felt even in the midst of those following them!

Surely you will say China is working because their GOVERNMENT has put things in place!
So whenever anyone ask you why are JWs performing here and there throughout the earth with the same kind of spirit and zeal everywhere? Remember the little group overseeing the activities of JWs globally as they call themselves The GOVERNING BODY of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Apologies your response is mechanical.

amosblisz:
2plot 100 by 100 right??

Yes 100*100 ft in areas where a plot is 50*100 ft. In an area where a plot is 60*120 ft them it's higher.

Kobojunkie:
What do you understand of the teachings of Jesus Christ?

Typical of the Nigerian.

rotecch77:
No web presently for this
But I can post to the number you posted here

Good Morning Brotherly
Please just a reminder to the sending of the pix of those hand crafted doors you once posted done by your friend.
I'm still expecting to see them.
The number to send via whatsapp remains +234.902.777.9642.

Thanks once again.