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newsynews:
Wine in the Bible are of two types. When the Buble speaks of wine, it does. ot mean only alcoholic wine. The Bible also speaks of non-alcoholic wine which is fruit juice, exactly what Jesus gave at the wedding in Cana.

No man of God or servant of God drank the alcoholic wine. They only drank the wine called fruit juice.

Please point to where as it is written in the Holy Bible where they said non alcoholic wine, fruit juice or juices for drinking...............
I try as much as I can, not to interpret what is not written or giving meaning to that which is not.

I don't even want to quote Saint Paul, where he mentioned the drinking of wine for stomach sake. There is a reason to that and the purpose is still written in same chapter.

How can you say, wine is of 2 types. ........can You please try and read out the history and manufacture of fruit juices.
There's absoluteky no way the Bible will use same name for 2 purposes without explicitly differentiating them.

Jesus practically turned water into wine. And if you read the verses that followed it will tell you what manner of wine it is. Those who were in attendance spoke of it.

newsynews:
Look at this one. It's people like you I hate. You go about with false doctrine and boast as if that is exactly what the Bible teach. You are even subtly telling people to stay away from pastors. Now let's examine your claim.

Which great guys drank alcohol? Perhaps, you think the word wine means alcohol Everytime it is mentioned.

Jesus didn't drink wine, he was only falsely accused of being a drunkard. Let's see the passage clearly.

Luke 7:33-34 King James Version (KJV)
33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.
34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

John was only eating locust and wild honey, he didn't like normal food. For that, they said he had a devil. Did John have a devil? No. This means he was falsely accused.

Jesus loved normal food and drink etc eater, non-alcoholic wine, but those false accusers called him a glutton and a drunkard. According to you, because those people accused Jesus if drinking alcohol, then it means he use to drink it. Why not also believe it when they said he was a drunkard and a glutton?

There's no point in trying to stress "non alcoholic " wine in the subject matter. Do not add to where the Bible did not.
You can trace from the OT till the coming of Jesus Christ. Everyone who had or owns vineyards produces wine and if you go through the passages, you will see the effect on those who drank it.

It will be nice if you say, alcohol drinking is not good or its a sin, but trying to add to that which is not written in the Holy Bible is more wrong.
If you search the scripture, you will see, the Bible made mention of wine and strong drink. Now these are 2 different categories of alcohol.

John the Baptist is an exception of a no wine drinker, because practically he lived in the desert and not among men.

chymes0359:
Oga even in the advert they said Drink responsibly..
Same way as smokers are liable to die young on their packs..

That's a marketing slogan and nothing more than that.
Do you know of any car manufacturing company that tells anyone to drive responsibly or says speeding kills, or say don't drink and drive, etc, etc, etc.........

chymes0359:
Good morning Nairalanders ..

Please i want to know your stance on this topic I won't bore you with long epistle write up.

Today is sunday as we all know am a christian and I want to know wether taking alcohol responsiby is a sin.
Am asking because I have this brother from my church telling that its a sin, even when I have not taking it in a way that got me to a stupor..

Waiting for you guys..
Happy Sunday..

Interesting. .....
*Are you sure you are a Christian?
*Please why do you think you are a Christian?
*What qualifies you to be called a Christian?


More so, there's no such thing as drinking responsibly.
Alcohol drinking is alcohol drinking, because for some even just one shot of it will cause them to misbehave.

RiyadhGoddess:
Confessing to the church leadership is the church policy not biblical.
If you commit any sin God is faithful to forgive you if you confess it
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1 John 1:7‭-‬10 KJV

Any unconfessed sin can affect your eternal destiny.
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
1 Corinthians 6:9‭-‬11 KJV
But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness. Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.
1 Corinthians 10:5‭-‬14 KJV
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You are quite wrong on your first sentence.
Take a look at this;
James:5.16
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.


I am sure the above is very self explanatory. And you know its essence.
Only habitual sinners or should i say those who delibrately sin are supposed to be suspended. Don't get me wrong in this statement.

The reason this is not done is because in some gatherings, anyone who brings his sins/short comings to the pastor or any brethren will end up being the gist and gossip of the church. And in some instances that individual will be indirectly made a Sunday sermon in the church.


Another reason against this is if as a member or worker, I'm being made to confess my short comings to the pastor, who does the pastor confess his short comings to?

Area4Area:
Don't mind him, there's this brand of rice produced in Niger state, can't remember the name now, long grain and stone free, almost taste like basmati long grain rice and even sellers would tell you it is foreign local rice from Niger state.

That's nice.
I've not yet come across the local long grain. Please if you have any sample of the long grain can you put up a pix.
I've lived in makurdi, keffi and a little bit in jos and I've always eaten local rice free of stones.
Back in my native state, I've eaten same and they all taste nice if cooked properly.

catherineokezie:
B
Where is your location

South South of the Ijaw nation.

Truthbites:
..how do u cook it? For real, teach me

I started learning how to cook at the age of 10 years. It's mandatory in my family that all men should know how so that they could be able to distinguish good meals from bad and most importantly that their wife should not be keeping them hungry unnecessarily.

If you are not joking and still want to learn how to cook, show anf proove your interest.

Truthbites:
I don't envy u..local rice that turns to 'portoporto'.....

You are still a learner.
Blame your portoporto rice on your inability of not knowing how appropriate to cook it.

sonnie10:
I ton (20 of 50kg) of rice is $150 in Thailand and India
Dollar at 355; $150 is about 53k naira.
Meaning 20bags is 53k. Therefore one bag is #2650.

My question is, do Nigeria farmers use gold as fertilizer for for their own rice? With the huge difference in price, the temptation to continue to import is very high.

Thailand and India.......
Please how much is this same rice in England and USA?

Is it the same price as fish too......
Why do we always do comparisons unnecessarily...
Tomorrow it will be comparison by another set for refined petroleum products.

Godfullsam:
Y should i buy local stony rice for 14000 when i can easily get a bag of clean, stonless imported rice for 17000?

You are still living in a different country if the local rice around you is stony................
I have been buying and eating local rice free of stones for almost a year now.

Khaleell001:
When I mean copy cat,I mean doingbwhatbtge westerners do by their way of life today.

As for my place of origin:I am from Edo state,Northern senatorial district and Etsako by tribe.

I only gave those illustration to show how we allowed to to keep the commandments in Islām and still remain who we are.
Islam does not change us from being who we are;whether you are from. Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Fualni, River, Ibibio, Lantang or wherever rather it enhances us in terms of our spiritual,moral,psychological and social standing.

Islam does not degrade us, rather it accords us and everything around us it's right in a way that balances everything with God's commands

I have learned and read a lot about Islam and other religions and ideologies and i can on say categorical in no uncertain terms that Islam is the ONLY key to salvation.
This is not bragging,I can prove it God willing only if you are objective enough to see the truth in it.

A truth is a truth and there's no objectivity towards it.

I hope you understand the statements below and note, I'm no atheist.
Any one practicising any form of religion whatsoever will never get salvation.

There is only ONE GOD and He did not sell any religion to anyone.
Religion is man-made.

elijah101:
Please house how can i archive the sort of tilling job ... i am in abuja environs .... the tilers i know can't execute a job like this

Please where did you get this pix from......
I'm on a job and due to the positioning of the toilet/bathroom I'm considering placing the windows in same way.
I'd appreciate if you can send me links to where I can see more of such pix. Thanks.

How much are the said tilers charging there?

Lonelypacifist6:
You don't stab with a needle, and why the "Iron"of course a needle is always Iron, Never seen a wooden needle. and I'll take touching to the needle anyday, im not a sadists I don't enjoy pain.

I don't think that statement as said and written in the hadith is in the literally sense. It's some form of proverb to bring meaning to that which is in front.

Khaleell001:
That's not hypocrisy but system of governance.


A good example is; in my house, we can eat all sort of food:garri, beans,eba,Akpu,amala ewedu, gbegiri and all assorted.
But in your house, you say you don't eat Amala and gbegiri based on certain allergy you have for them. Then this isn't hypocrisy but following what suits you.

In my extended family:some of my uncles allow people to walk to everyehere in their house even to their bed room while some scorn at those who even attempt to do so.

So, the point here is, as far as the West allow people to exercise their personal choices and freedom then there is no hypocrisy in it when other countries say they don't allow such choices and freedom in a limited sense.

You can choose to allow people smoke cigarettes and marijuana in your house, but if I choose not to allow such for personal reasons that's my problem not yours .
This copy cat culture has actually ruined Africa, that's why many ifr you are very confused between the choices you make.
Take it or leave it, we all have our personal choices to exercise and the environment we choose to exercise them.


In the end, It all boils down to choice.

I still think you don't get the point.
Nevertheless I don't understand what you mean by copy cat culture..........please which part of Nigeria are you from and what tribe specifically are you..............

In my local village from where I come, its disrespectful for a younger person to initiate a handshake.

Khaleell001:
Every country has its own rules and regulations.
If Europe decides that no one should put on scarves or anything, but walk naked then no Muslim should be seen there since the law does not suit them similarly you will find such laws in those countries that prevent the things you outlined.

The point here is, liberalism which is being promoted by the western world is all about choice. And my choice to do certain things as far it does not go contrary to the laws is well protected.
And I don't see what's all the fuss about?
Except you are telling me liberalism to you means, I must do what you do and choose what you choose which will be very hypocritical.

It's a matter of choice.

If I decide not to drive a car but walk it's my choice.

If I decide to wear agbada it's my choice.

You can't castigate me because I choose to be different when I'm not breaking any law.

who does that?

Except I'm mistaken about what the other guy is saying.......
I think he is trying to say muslims want others to tolerate and accept their way(s) of living and doing things.
But they muslims cannot do same?
It's a simple principle even if its ones faith.
That is where the hypocrisy comes to play.................

Debaiz:
Shifting the goal post already.

First it was banning all religions now it’s about churches.

Saudi has always been an Islamic kingdom and it is known worldwide. Before Abraham brought Islam to Saudi through his family, Saudi was mostly a desert. Meaning Saudi was formed because of Islam not before Islam.

Italy has never claimed the title of being a Christian country. Roman Empire has been in place long before Christianity came and took over the kingdom. So Christianity should naturally not lay claim to any part of the country but here we are today with Vatican even having its own rules and constitution.


Before you condemn a religion make sure you know it’s history and the history of your own religion.


So by your submission a minority has no right in a secular country. If that is the case, then Christians should have no right in nigeria cos by demographics, Muslims are the majority while Christians are the minority.
Who’s the hypocrite now?

You are highly being mischievous and deceitful by stating the bold.
Kindly put up the statistics where you got such information.
It's like when some fellows in this times still think everyone in the northern region is a hausa person and everyone in the entire south is ibo.

What exactly do you understand by who a Christian is what is Christianity? Did Jesus Christ come and say He is bringing a new religion and it is Christianity?! Do you not know the origin of the word itself? Is the Roman empire more old than Judaism?
If Italy does not say they are a Christian State, they alone know their reasons. The history books is out there for all to seek information as to the formation of the Catholic church.

Khaleell001:
The matter is strictly Islamic I don't know of other religions .
The reason is this;


It was narrated that Ma’qil ibn Yassaar said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “For one of you to be stabbed in the head with an iron needle is better for him than that he should touch a woman(a non relative woman,including female cousins) who is not permissible for him.”
Narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Kabeer, 486. Shaykh al-Albaani said in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 5045

I guess this quote is from one of the hadiths.
So is this also applicable to those in the medical profession especially doctors and surgeons?

Takoro13:
Uncle please stop that. Constructions are like women on the street. You go for your choose and taste. Many factors contribute to cost we are talking about.

I expect Spyder008 to say something about it bcs I gave the experience of blocks from his works which has yielded like 52% less of the cost I could have spent on block only.

My point

I don't understand why you chose to use the bold in trying to put an explanation.

We disagree to agree in order to learn. In this field no two persons will build same be it professional or home owner. But what is important is for the professional/contractor build what will outlive the owner at the same time ensuring the home owner doesn't feel cheated.

rotecch77:
Thanks my brother, if you look at it cost of materials cover about 60-70 pec of construction cost, whiles labour and professional charges take the rest 30- 40 pec.

And if you look at it vividly and based on experience you will see that cost of labour are almost the same everywhere now
Labour charge btw 1500-2000.
Bricklayer 2500-3500
Tiler 300-500
Etc
You will agree with me that most homeowners that build good standard houses in villages or remote area now do import there workers from town or city because of there level of workmanship

More so, almost all materials for construction now do comes from city, to the village.

So I don’t see BIG Diff like 60-40 building in village and city aside from cost of land.

So I don’t know how some pep will now think that if you build with let’s say 25m in city.
And have believed that same structure will cost you far lesser than that in villlage like 13m both aside from land

NO PROFESSIONAL will Have that thought, unless what happened in 1877 will repeat itself.

Sure Brotherly.
It's well with all professionals and home owners.
Let all encourage one another in any way possible in moving the ministry going.

rotecch77:
If that is the case, we can’t use that to set up standards cost of a building, the help you get today can never be same tomorrow or same in another region.
Here we are talking about professional and standard charges of all workers /cost of materials which you can use almost everywhere to determine cost of a building

Nice one.
But I'll say the only standard thing will be that of "cost of materials" which is known by all and same irrespective of location. The difference is some what very negligible.

As to the cost for professional charges for all cadres of workers, I think the right word to use should be " what is obtainable" within an environment.

umarshehu58:
Is it wrong to live in another country other than the one you are born in? They are not imposing their culture, this is just a hand shake and anybody can decide not to shake you at his or her on will, not necessarily by following the teachings of their religion

It is very highly disrespectful of anyone to do such irrespective of culture or religion.

Moses law says who ever keeps nine of the laws but faults in one has defaulted in all.
It is the same as anyone who will claim is living by principle or otherwise.

We should all try to refrain from all manners of hypocrisy and sentiments that adds to value to self righteousness.

Mustsucceed:
Darling ,make no mistake ,Muslims are never tenants .

Go to Rivers State and tell Gov. Wike, that......

Mustsucceed:
Sorry love ,I don't stoop this low.its just like a man fighting a mad man ,he would be seen as also mad

Have a good day ,love

Imagine.
Who are you in love with...........

You are not just low but very shallow.

Mustsucceed:
What are u stating .my God your intelligence is low ..you don't even know how to present a compelling argument

Please kindly state your high and superior intelligence....
Oh my goodness someone is now exhibiting a superior intelligence.
.....wonders. ....

Can you counter my statement with your superior intelligence to compell others to reason your ways...

[quote author=prof12 post=81720973][/quote]So something that was not in existence during the time the Prophet was alive become known and practiced after his death...........

Please how is that

aril:
Maybe this article will make sense to you..

What's Up With Orthodox Men and Women and the Handshake?
By Rochel Chein.


https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/4203703/jewish/Whats-Up-With-Orthodox-Men-and-Women-and-the-Handshake.htm

My family and I met with an Orthodox rabbi and his wife the other day. I noticed that the rabbi shook hands with me but not with my wife, and that his wife shook hands with my wife, but not with me. What’s the big deal about men and women shaking hands? Isn’t a handshake just a handshake?

Click the link above and read the full article.. This isn't from Islamic perspective about handsake again.. We all learn something new everyday.

That couple practices Judaism. And for whatever reason best to them they did what they did.
You can go through the Old Testament of the Holy Bible to figure out why they could do such.
I will not put up any in defence of them.

Mustsucceed:
We are referring to Islam Vis a Vis the crown Prince iam sorry wont engage u further

The crown prince is not just a person. He represents an exalted office and a prince who represents the house of princes before him.
Same can be said of Islam. It's not just about an individual but a people before those practicing it presently.

If anyone for whatever reasons insults PMB, that individual is not just insulting the president but every other president before him.
Hope you get it.
Thank you.

Mustsucceed:
The apology should come from the prince not the mosque Islam has been existing for over a thousand years before he was born so HE SHOULD HAVE KNOW OUR LAWS.

also he should fire his protocol officer it was the job of the officer to have reminded him on does and songs

Every political officer ,royalty member is coached on the norms and customs of the area he is visiting so whose fault is of if he wasn't ?

Interesting write up.....
In as much as I would agree to some part of your post and some were to be left out....
Please how old is muslims and the muslim religion in Norway as to the the royal house the prince comes from?

true2god:
Hijra (migration) is part of Islamic religion whereby they (muslim ummah) migrate to the land of the kafir for future conquest (politically, demographically or militarily). The religion and culture that migrate most is the Arab cuture and religion.

How can one who has not conquered self do to another.
The devil indeed is truly the liar.

hardeytarhyour:
That is Highly Not permissible in Islam for Man to Shake or Even Touch Woman or Vice Versa.....Except Those that You have right to Like Your Wife, Daughter, Sister, Step Sister, And some Member Of your Relative

So that interprets to hand shake,..?.......
So much for beliefs and interpretation.
Man indeed is a funny creature.

Konpresor012:
illiterate, they're 100% from Norway too. Fuc.king stupid bigotted illiterate, hope people with your attitude die & rot in hell.

Oh we all see.
They are all Norwegians. Guess they all learnt that from birth. The crown Prince probably does not know the culture and religion of his people. Oh no no no.....what a terrible mistake he made.
I can remember sometime ago when we were told PMB does not shake women but on a foreign trip she shook hands with a female prime minister....
What does that tell you