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What a useless article from a foreign journalist

lokoloko84:
If you liked,spend 1trillion dollars yearly on the health sector the same incompetency and decay will continue.
Untill,there is inclusiveness to take care of all interest groups within the health sector in terms of policy formulation and professionalism with strong focus on specializations at the primary, secondary and tertiary levels, then this sector is going nowhere,no matter the so called funding and renumeration. Infact,this is the major reason with litigations are why some countries have a robust system.Equipping and giving bogus salaries is just a lazy way of thinking and not the real solution.
Mind you the same applies to other sectors as well.Untill other professionals in all fields are also involved in policy making with the pratical structures to work, the so called developments we are clamouring for will still be a mirage.
Most Asian countries followed this route and the rest is history.The health sector like other sectors must be demolished and rebuilt again from the scratch. The political structure is even faulty at first and you wonder why the country is a disgrace.

There have always been round table meetings. These doctors are saboteurs. You need to hear their demands. They destroyed our healthcare system. Even if the govt throws some more money like they do annually, the impact will never be felt. The vampires do not want change. There is massive corruption in our healthcare system

Cramjones I appreciate the fact that you are taking this issue personal. I was sadden by the gross misconduct and negligence on the part of the Doctor. His behavior is a common practice in our healthcare system. Their common excuse is to blame the government and embark on prolonged strike actions. These wicked souls and vampires never bother to do some in house checks and find out what is actually wrong.

I was shocked and almost moved to tears when I observed some doctors supporting his course of actions. However, just like we have stupiidity in our society, we also have sane people. It was reliving to read from sane doctors on their own personal experience and how they would have done better.

Nevertheless, that doctor and his senior colleagues need to be in prison for negligence. I was also terrified when a presumed doctor claimed that most negligent cases are always settled out of court and doctors in Nigeria are not always prosecuted. This wicked thinking and attitude from that Doctor is a huge reason why Doctors continue to act arrogantly and kill without conscience or remorse.

Cramjones, I support you a 100 percent on this and it should be a lesson to our healthcare workers that the life of their patients is not just a piece of wood but should be treated with the respect and care.

Regards,

omolami:
The media are keeping quiet because it is a pact reached between them and FG to henceforth be doing so. Remember the killing of 105 soldiers by BH, the military denied it and the media equally kept mute. Thousands of soldiers are being buried daily in this fight and media is a collaborator in non reportage

I think it is not a bad approach. Too much importance was given to the insurgents and they thrived on it. However, let our attention be diverted to other things whilst the military handle them proportionately. When they noticed we do not feel concerned, they shall surrender.

Above is a brief summary of why there is a fall in oil prices and why the fall will continue unless artificial scarcity is imposed. Analyst including the IMF are predicting oil price to fall below $20 per barrel in 2016. We better wake up and face reality because our economy is going to get worse.

Government can increase taxes and pursue tax evaders. Also, it can implement policies on other sector to boost its revenue.

The Economist explains

Mar 18th 2015, 11:08 by E.L. | LONDON


Why is the oil price falling?
Mostly because of increased supply from America—up by 4m barrels a day since 2009. Although most crude exports are still banned, American imports have plummeted, contributing to a glut on world markets. Other producers have decided not to try to curb their production and keep the price up.

Why?
The Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries is dominated by Gulf producers, notably Saudi Arabia. They have huge reserves to cushion the impact of low prices. They also hope that the slump will eventually shut down high-cost production, tightening the market again.

Are they right to think that?
Probably not. America’s shale production boom is based on new techniques—fracking and horizontal drilling—and unlike “big oil” involves small companies and small projects. These are flexible, meaning they will quickly respond to any price rise. And they are innovative: huge productivity gains still lie ahead.

What about the other producers?
Other producers such Nigeria and Venezuela are indeed hurting badly. But OPEC solidarity stretches only so far. Russia tried and failed to get OPEC support for a production curb—and is now ramping up its production in the hope of protecting the volume of oil revenues.

Will low prices continue?
It looks like it. Some high-cost production is closing, but once wells are drilled, it usually makes sense to keep pumping, even at a loss. It is better to make a little money rather than none. And the shale revolution is marching on.

How low can the price go?
If your correspondent could forecast that, he would be on a yacht reading The Economist rather than at a desk writing for it. But much below $40 will sharply increase bankruptcies, and the pressure on OPEC to curb production. Cheap energy also leads to higher demand.

What happens next?
The debate about lifting America’s ban on crude exports is firing up. The petrochemical and steel lobbies are fighting a rear-guard action against big oil. America’s domestic crude (light and sweet) is unsuited for the nation’s refineries (configured for sour and heavy imported oil)—but would make a lucrative export.

Who benefits from low prices?
Winners necessarily outnumber losers (imagine a world in which energy was free). Consumers have more cash in their pockets; industry enjoys lower energy costs, makes bigger profits, and pays more taxes. And it is a great time for companies with strong balance-sheets to make acquisitions.

And who suffers?
The oil industry’s immediate reaction is to squeeze costs out of its supply chain. So wages and margins are falling fast. Highly indebted companies are going bust, with knock-on effects on investors. But lower costs help the industry adapt and increase efficiency.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/03/economist-explains-14?fsrc/tw/te/ee/tr/ed/fallingoilprices

Conduit pipe for money laundering. The excuses cited by the airlines are not tangible enough. We no longer want to dollarize our economy again

safepassage2015:
This guy thinks am poor and that I don't have access to health services abroad. You are funny indeed. Please i need the name of your lawyer because my family lawyer is an ex attorney general and commisioner of Justice in Enugu State. Trust me he will bring this case to a logical conclusion. We are not on the same level intellectually, financially or otherwise

We are not thinking, you are already displaying it. You are still young. When you grow and surely you will, you will understand what proper decorum is all about. The only healthcare you can afford is that of Ghana or Togo. These are not mere words. I know what it actually cost. Doctor, if you are, don't continue to shame your profession and bring it to disrepute.

I don't brag and even if I do, I have earned my sweat. When you actually leave your daddy's house and privileges in Enugu, start paying salaries and understand that your decision affects the lives of your employee's families, you can talk to me.

Finally, your family lawyer is a politician and friends with daddy. Go get a proper practicing lawyer and ensure you keep him on yearly retainership. Fool, the last time I did daddy's stuff was 18 years ago. Grow up and be a man, and make and take decisions like we do everyday.

Be guided.

eyesofgod:
In the future, history will always show that some came to lay a foundation for a prosperous country, some didn't know why they were there and never gave a damn, while some will rather spend the rest of their life fixing the broken project called Nigeria .
God placed us in a geographical location devoid of natural disasters but
why do we deliberately inflict sufferings upon ourselves?
why do we destroy things that were meant to make our life easy?
why do we encourage and worship those with evil intentions?
why do we hate those who chose to live an upright life?

Insightful comment. These questions are very deep and need to be reflected upon

Scholarforever:
Well, I didn't abuse anybody while making my point and from your response it is clear that u don't understand d gist of my opinion.

Guess my emotions ran wide. Apologies, but do read the constitution. It is important you do.

safepassage2015:
well I understand you don't like reading posts b4 u comment bt i will give u a little summary. Boss13 said his mother was an assistant director at the ministry of health and hes privy to information about some budgetary allocations to hospitals and he knows some CMDs that embezzle funds meant for developing the hospital. Ok i now asked him y didn't him or his mom write to efcc to investigate some suspicious activities by CMDs. He ignored me and hurled insults. He also said he has received medical attention abroad which most likely or not was funded his mom. As a dr that is frustrated by the broken system, i want to do the right thing to fix the system. So i need his moms details to report her to efcc to investigate her finance because i also suspect she may have been involved in sharp practices. So where hv i gone wrong?

FYI and please note it carefully, I am not within your intellectual, age or class bracket. You do not address my mother wrongfully. I understand this is an anonymous forum, but you need to show and express respect.

Your conduct on this thread continue to raise my suspicion on your reasoning faculties and decorum. You continue to reflect and represent the same issue we castigate.

Do you want me to give you the name of my lawyer who wrote the petition? Should I now stoop low to reason like you regardless of previous instructions given to you to abet your situation. Are you this stupiid?

That I have and continue to enjoy treatment from good doctors has nothing to do with my extended family. I have elaborated how you, yourself can enjoy such privilege, if you possess the means.

I encourage you to write to the EFCC. My mother's details are not hidden. It can be easily access in Federal Min. Of Health. If you can be this concerned to solve your problem, it is a welcome development. However, if you think this is a funny game or ploy, then you need to get yourself examined.

Avoid the contraption of assessing people to fall within your shallow and miserable life. There is a cure for you - Think out of the Box!

Uten9z:
pls stop attaching these guy and carry ur cross, what has his mothers status then have to with a doctors singular decision.

Ignore him. I know his frustration. I have given him clues, but guess what he will never do any of them. When next there is a strike action, he will shout - Ope O! Make I go rest.

They are just vampires.

cramjones:
I won't cut him any slack! I won't cut him some slack for indirectly killing a patient for his inactions. Yes, we have issues in our healthcare system. But this OP displayed gross incompetence and ineptitude in performing his job as a FIRST-ON CALL. If prosecuted this OP will end up in jail!

-CramJones

He doesn't need any slack. He needs jail time so his ignorant colleagues can sit up

favoured234:
This man I must break your head... I don tire

Madam for final advice to you is this - if you are wealthy, do not patronize Nigerian hospitals. For little illnesses, there is a compendium of treatments by well recognized and reknowned world class doctors, you can subscribed to their services online. You can be their patient too. They can assure regular phone call check-ins, video chat or you can travel if the illness is complicated.

If you are in the process of acquiring wealth, first get a health insurance. Second, browse for very good hospitals in the country. When you visit, be inquisitive. Insist on test before treatment and always read and research your test results and compare treatments. Doctors in Nigeria can diagnose wrongly.

Finally, NEVER give birth in Nigeria If you are married and still breeding. If you ain't, put it in serious consideration.

Take care

safepassage2015:
see this guy oh!!! You say u know the allocation. You say you know CMDs that embezzle. I ask u whether u informed the authorities as a patriotic citizen, you say am looking for who to blame? Men, u really need to see ur shrink honestly

You have short memory. Go and read my comments again. Till then don't kill anymore.

favoured234:
We are talking about a particular scenario and you are taking it into the general profession...
Anyway its okay

This is not a scenario issue, it's a holistic decay that affects facets of the health care system

safepassage2015:
why are you dragging the presidency to this? I asked u a simple question....'did u or ur mom ever report any suspicious CMD to the EFCC or ICPC?' If not then u both are part and parcel of the broken system

Doctors. They never change. Never will they agree they are the problem. Always looking for someone else to help them solve their problem.

Don't worry, we shall assist you.

FEDERAL MINISTRY OF HEALTH – 221,712,151,746

Statutory allocation for health next year. You can start by monitoring it. Go to ministry of health and demand how it was allocated. Then, track your allocation down to your own hospital if you work for a government hospital. Ask your CMD questions when you notice differences.

You too can help. Don't be part of the problem, be the solution.

ADBOK:
Nonsense! You had all it takes to at least ameliorate the condition of that patient and you did nothing! You justify your sordid inaction by citing your superiors' orders. Maybe you should read your Hippocratic oath again. You deserve a resounding slap for even putting this self-incriminating piece in a public domain like this...

He deserves jail time. Same thing happened to Chaz B.

safepassage2015:
Your constant attack on nigerian doctors is unfortunate. Infact the onus lies on me to find out why u HATE drs. All i did was ask u those basic questions to know whr ur vexation lies and u have given me the answer i always suspected. U didnt make medical school which is ok shaaa cos medicine is nt for everyone. Now u and i knw the system is very broken and yet u heap all the blame on a drs supposed negigence without considering other factors at play. You are even part of the broken system because ur late mom MAY have been part of it. If u are aware of budgetary allocations to some hospitals through ur mom and u knew it was embezzled, why didnt u or ur mom contact EFCC as patrotic citizens. U played dumb while the system continued to rot and now u have the guts to call me a murderer? You failed to inform the appropriate authorities and now u are looking for who to blame? My friend, take time and respect ursef

I will ignore your ranting and tell you truthfully that the EFCC is investigating some cases. Unfortunately, the anti-corrupt organization dances to the tune of the presidency and is heavily engaged in prosecuting erring politicians.

However, do not be discouraged, they shall catch fraudulent doctors who are frustrating the system.

favoured234:
Hmmmmm I think I now understand where you are coming from... I will suggest you calm down on this issue.
Some of us have had some nasty experiences to share but that the head aches doesn't mean we should cut it off.
When we want to condemn we should understand that the healthcare system is not very functional and there are some people working tirelessly to make their little contribution to the big picture..., and so we should try to understand and not beat them up for a failed system

Madam please, this attitude of yours and possessed by many Nigerians is responsible for a lot of degraded system and infrastructure in the country.

Why should a quack hospital deceive the public and continue to be in operation? Why should a semi-illiterate or incompetent doctor still remain in the health care system?

Are you aware we have quacks performing surgery in this country. People without medical license opening hospitals and diagnosing illness?

Should the public ignore such persons and these vampires continue to kill people.

Do you know that many private hospitals are quick and happy to perform CS on an expectant mother than deliver her of her baby normally and not minding the future implications especially if the woman is still in her breeding period?

We cannot continue like this.

safepassage2015:
ur hate for doctors knows no bounds. Can i ask, did u attempt to enter med skl and failed? Did a dr snatch ur babe? Wat makes u hate us so much? Anyways let me now be frank, as far as nigeria is concerned, a doctor CANNOT easily go to jail as most litigations are settled out of court. Please tell ur shrink to educate u better on medico-legal issues

Please put on some sensible cap when reading my comment. You write like a teenager and without any disrespect, I doubt if you are a doctor.

This thread is not about my biography. Unfortunately, I have revealed more than I should have. It is about the unjust and wicked system perpetrated by doctors like yourself who still thinks of women/babe after medical school.

Recall, I have earlier commented on doctors pleading with affected victims or victims unable to pursue their case to a logical conclusion. Ignorantly, you have concluded that most of your negligence in professional duties end up out of court. I pity you.

The general public should now come to terms why doctors continue to be negligent because they feel the matter will end out of court. Let me inform you that whilst in some professional fields, negligence maybe civil, however, yours is both criminal and civil. I wonder whether you read the professional code of conduct and ethics, or perhaps you are still a doctor in training.

Be guided.

favoured234:
If both of us live in the same jungle called Nigeria you wont blame that guy and you wont encourage/justify beating of a doctor in that situation......

He should be grateful he got a beating. Many Nigerians do not know their rights or too cash tight to pursue their case to a logical conclusion. The same thing applies to rape victims.

safepassage2015:
Sorry about your late mom but as a deputy director in mininstry of health, she MAY HAVE cornered some of the funds meant to develop hospitals. Also i was right u failed in trying to read medicine. Apart from nursing, every other person in medical profession wanted to be a dr but failed. It clearly explains why you hate doctors so much

If my mom had cornered some funds, she did not openly disclosed it and I was not privy to such matters. I cannot speak for her, but records are yet to show contrary. I disliked doctors, maybe because of their pretentious ways of pointing at others whilst the solution lies with them.

FYI, I completed my program and grateful for the knowledge I still possess. For now it is of little use to me.

PipSurgeon:
Enough of the hateful arguments.. the system is a failed one, where i am, those doctor that work in Accident and Emergency, passionate enough and know the system well have a way the borrow stuff from pharmacy in there, and over ride some protocol to get stuff necessary for resuscitation and the return them when patient relatives or sponsors like FRSC comes around. and both ways everyone happy.. he was probably new to the system, but to think there is a protocol even in teaching hospital to cater for accident emergencies before payment is false.. PASSIONATE DOCTOR KNOW HOW TO OVERRIDE SOME PROTOCOLS, IF NOT THE SYSTEM IS FAILED.. SOMETIME COMMON GLOVES U WONT FIND.. we should leave the argument here.. we should sensitize our policy makers,. yesterday it was Her, it could be you tomorrow.. shalom, REST IN PEACE TO THE DEAD.

Guess you have had your coffee and your professional senses has returned. Good to see you admitting the truth.

Uten9z:
twating seasoning

most of you just want to say sha!
Medical sector is most funded sector and enhanced in Naija and these doctors cannot wait a month b4 they still embark on strike to fund the individual private practices at the detriment of our lives and u still support them.
Let me give u clue to know how provided they are, every civil and private workers salary is deducted of what the refer to NHF such monies run at least 3k for a fresh graduate monthly deduction, this monies are send for health care provision. providing of basic needed health care provision for u and I at 10 percent payment fee.
The thing here is 99 % of you here don't knw this and so is the civil servants and so these things are lying wasted yr after year and this docs either siphon the monies or the drugs to their use etc.
Hence how is this doctor sure the patient is not a payer of NHF and his actions says to her if she or her fiancee is a health tax payer that;
1;-I've rob u of ur monies
2. I 've rob u of ur live
3.I am here to rob of ur right and u will ignorantly support it.

Please educate them and the doctors who are yet to know so they know where to channel their frustration.

Docuzor:
Am a doctor too in a federal medical centre and i partially understand u in the issue of hierarchy.
Buh you were first on call for a reason.
This simply means u shuld call ur superiors whn the matter gets out of hand..
U shuld hv stablised ur patients..the much you could...before making calls. You dint...
What I see here is an incomplete doctor who at best choked under pressure or at worse dint knw wat to do.

A sensible Doctor is in the house. He is incompetent not incomplete because I believe he finished his program

favoured234:
He doesn't operate a quack hospital... He is not the owner
He works in a healthcare facility that doesn't have all he needs to function properly.
If given an offer in a world-class facility, he would have accepted it.
But then he tried to make the best out of the seemingly bad situation BTW how many doctors have first aid kits handy..,.and should have not been beaten up for the baby's life

Madam, you will not understand. He works in a quack hospital. It is his professional duty to escalate issues. They never do so but continue to carry on with their activities. His inactions of not escalating caused the death of that premature baby. These hospitals cut corners and should not exist.

ogawisdom:
I am working on sponsoring a bill to national Assembly to send complete idi.ots like u behind bars when their negligence results in death of patients. Ewu

We can't continue like this, things must change

#Doctors dt murder their patients must go to jail

That is where they deserve. Semi-illiterate vampires. They don't know what is about to hit them.

obstead200:
[size=13pt]OP, with due respect, this is the reason I get furious when doctors in government hospitals begin clamoring for more pay or better working conditions.
In all my life, I have not met a more heartless group of cold blooded murderers like the doctors in govt hospitals. Especially the state owned ones. The federal is no better. They are all a bunch of lazy, overpaid and over pampered figure heads who do not care about upholding there sacred oath.[/size]

They are all vampires. Even the ones who own their hospitals. Well with a few exception.

igboboy3:
What a load of bollocks from somebody on the periphery of the medical profession.
You don't know what the practice involves. You are not even a health professional. Just somebody who knows some doctors on a padi-padi level.
I've read all your comments and zero have made any sense. The problem is only a microcosm of the country-wide rot which has affected every sector of our nation.
You've used all sorts of vile language on people who you know nothing of.
After insulting doctors as pretentious illiterates, you still carry your body to their hospital and form humility
Nonsense!

Poor assumption, my first bachelor degree was in the medical field. I graduated with honours, but refused to practice. I have a second bachelor degree with a masters in a field I have come to love passionately and regretted not embarking on early enough. I have no regrets abandoning the medical field, however, regretted being pushed into it by family. I know the frustration, I know the issues especially in this country, my graduating class are still deep in it after a decade and 6 years. It is a system that killed my mother even when she worked in it. To clear the air, my mom was an assistant director in federal ministry of health - hence, my knowledge on allocations to hospitals.

I am not assuming, second guessing or just complaining. I know first hand the wickedness perpetrated by doctors and how they hide behind the government even when allocations have been made. I know how they cherish strike actions and long for it.

They destroyed our healthcare system.

mcluy:
This is hilarious. You're really pained. If we're semi-illiterates, inconsiderate, very wicked etc, then why do you guys still run to Nigerian doctors? You might as well hire a foreign doctor to treat you. ... Oga take am easy ooo.

I don't because I have been privileged to see things differently. However, we cannot continue to run away. I have seen new borns and their moms die for flimsy reasons. I have seen slight issues complicated by doctors' negligence.

I associate a lot with medical practitioners. They know the truth. They know what is wrong. They know the standard has dropped and is declining further. That is why these quacks must be behind bars.

favoured234:
Are you for real?
What more could the doctor I quoted have done?
He should have manufactured incubators and gotten a bigger oxygen bag and used mystical powers to keep the baby alive?
I didn't come here to justify anybody's behavior but then the people in question are humans and not some sort of gods
I have been in an emergency ward for some days and I saw some doctors to suffer for things beyond their control?

He operates a quack hospital.