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Hathor5:
I think it does but we all understand and answer it differently.

Generally, from responses, we can say people tend not to love unconditionally. There's always something in it for everyone, and even if one does or doesn't (love unconditionally), their spouse may or may not.

It's hard to tell the intent of peoples hearts. I think the best we can do is be transparent on our parts and enjoy what we have.

Idamond:
Happy New week Nairalanders!!

don't mind my grammar


... please what cream or chemical should I use to soften my hands?

Google solutions.

Or visit a dermatologist.

Hathor5:
Are you sure you can love your spouse unconditionally?

This question has no answer!



Ideally, yes. Reality? Yes and no.

code66:
.. monitor lizard? I see,let me google about it

Please do.

They are very interesting creatures when alive. Are you going to eat it?

Babaken:
In as much I don't support men raising their hands on wemen are you telling me there's nothing good that attract her towards the guy to the extend of accepting marriage proposer. A man will just wake up and start beating her for just nothing let's here from the both side.

He won't just wake up, but he did wake and beat her up, so what are you saying? Did you know that battery is a crime under Nigeria law? Did you know the police will arrest him without listening for his good side? If he's so good, why battering her?

You don't support it, yet you're looking for reasons to justify why a person commits the crime of battery, by asking for the the victim for the batterers good sides? Does that some how erase the blood spilled and the broken bones? If you don't support it, of what use are his good sides? Will the good side make him more marriageable? When he beats her to death, will you ask for his good sides too?

If you know you can marry a good woman with other qualities who beats you to a pulp, then advice OP to continue and list the good sides of the guy.

Beautiful monitor lizard @ code66

Babaken:
You have told us his bad side let's hear his good side.
You can also tell us your bad and good side so that we can balance the equation. Marriage is never a bed of roses.

What could be better than being capable of battering her to death, after his romantic good sides?

If he kills her from beating her, all he has to do is flash his good side cards for you, and her bad side cards for you, and you will acquit him?

This is a thread that goes to show you can not please people with your choices.

The same people telling her to run are the ones who frequently tell women that it's their mouths that get them beaten, that they deserve the beating because they made the man into a beast, and that a good woman is tender hearted and forgiving of the excesses of her man. They will even tell her to kneel and apologize to him, then use sellotape to keep shut for life just to be ideal wife material. Let's not forget the burden of prayers that women must do while men don't need heaven.

Suddenly they are saying otherwise? These people must be against the success of her impending wedding. Don't listen to single people who want you to be single too. Etc etc.

Sounds like a red pill piece of work, though. How do women meet and excuse these types of men? Is it that they don't date and see their interactions online, with their mothers and sisters, their exes and other people, too?

Lollittaa:
As I scrolled through fb, I came across a post. This lady, her boyfriend took her to market, to buy things. Only for her to discover that the next day, those items they bought were for his introduction with another lady.
That's just one story.
What of the one who will invite his girlfriend to someone's wedding, without her knowing its his. And she bought asoebi sef. My God!

Men are WICKED , CALLOUS creatures. Even the Bible confirms it. I know they'll flock this thread to say nonsense but, this is the truth.
Why will you date someone you can't marry and then you ask her to follow you to market to buy things meant for your wedding to another woman?
And she humbly followed you.
And you know what?
After two, three months, these same men will crawl back inside inbox.
"I miss you"
"You won't understand"

Now I'm beginning to understand why some men are locked inside bottles. They deserve every bit of it!

"But women do same"
True. But it's 1 woman to 50 men. That's the ratio.
Men are callous. Wicked. Extremely wicked.
Breaking hearts left, right, centre, to prove what? Even if she has offended you, why can't you LET HER GO? After 2, 3,4 years of dating you, she sees your wedding on Facebook.

I pity the women marrying such cursed men. You will never enjoy your home. Because your husband broke the hedge the serpent will bite the both of you. Many of you men are so empty, something as useless as kayanmata can hook you. You have no conscience. You think with your dick.
Must you break so many hearts before you get married? Must you invite so many curses on the head of your future family?
Continue inviting evil into your household. We'll see how it plays out.

It boils down to men believing they are punishing a lady by wasting her time to make her worthless. You see it on the forum all the time. They believe women expire ie. Once they get old they've dealt with them. They don't want the relationship, but rather than ending it, "I'll keep her as a fvckmate, use her for years and dump her and get a better lady with manners to teach her a lesson".

And they see nothing wrong with it.

There are a lot of cursed men roaming around, the curses are justified and hold them fast. Many don't know it.

neyoohhh:
I know yeah, it hurts.
I have no beef with you but your stupid principles which has lead so many youths astray.

You people have negatively impacted on the youths enough with all the useless woke doctrines you spread and I'm not having it.

This is not a dick measuring contest and I have absolutely feck all to prove. it's simply a battle to push back against the false narratives you insecure failure's pander about.

I know you don't have that level of insight anyway to understand.

Anyways, you ain't off my hook yet.

Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin.

neyoohhh:
You're a disgrace of a human. A w.hore at that, feeling entitled to high value men.

Those insecure guy's can have your type, as your brain have already been fcked away, hence the corresponding anger.

Bratislava the whor.e, just incase you think I didn't know.

When you need forgiveness, come here and make a case for it as openly as you've been campaigning lies.

Because:

No. It is you who will die DISGRACED, SHAMED, LONELY and MISERABLY. Mark my words, neyoohhh. That pit you go about digging constantly, you will fall into it as many times as you dig it.

For every name that you continue to call me that I am NOT, may your shame, disgrace, loneliness and idiocy be multiplied for all to see unendingly, neyoohhh.

The words you use to describe me will be used to describe every female in your life, from the ones you come from to the ones you will have, to the ones you will try to build a life with, neyoohhh. They are the bítches and whóres of the world, and you know it. YOU will be known as that man who has a who,re and a bi,tch as his wife, daughter, sister, cousin, niece, partner, girlfriend, etc to your face so long as they are female. You will enjoy those words you love to use when they become a part of you.

You go from thread to thread summoning curses that will ultimately consume you, neyoohhh. Whatever you are, with all your self hate and wretched bitterness, each time you think you're laying it on me, it is heaping on anything female on your life.

You began insulting me months ago, because you didn't like something I posted, and you got it back in folds, and now you are running from thread to thread displaying how a foolish, petty, bickering man behaves.

You're just a shamelessly empty, broken barrel who has nothing to do except destroy himself. But you know what? What you sow you must reap. I decided not to ignore you, as I've been doing for months, because there is something you must learn now.

Go and build your castles in the sand.

Newboss:
If na woman talk am, I CANNOT believe it.

Women are not meant to be believed without further collaboration or evidence.

Even if your wife or girlfriend talk say a guy rape am, don't believe it. Instead, do some digging for logical proof

Why is it always rape that men can't believe?

Is it that it has been angels raping women endlessly on just FP, let alone the whole world?

What further "logical proof" would you like in defense of rapists? You lot saw the Ijesha videos and still wouldn't believe it unless you saw him ejaculate in her. If that is logic, it is now stupidity.

Find something else not to believe about women. Because at this rate, nobody believes anything men say either.

MMotimo:
FULL BLOWN RAPE / PEDOPHILE APOLOGISTS!

Perhaps this was part of the nonsense Oyinbogoju was feeding on during his years on Nairaland and carried that tortoise logic to the US where he has now been imprisoned for the rest of his natural life because of child rape and sodomy.

Even if you don’t have a law degree, the most basic of moral compass should tell you that your statements on this thread can at best, be described as sick!

LMAO @tortoise logic.

It's more of glans logic. Anything at all to make sex with children sound okay.

I've been saying that that is why they are arrested abroad. Because they go on with this mentality that anything is permissible just because they want sex.

How can people/men think it's illegal for a man to be jailed for sex with a minor? Nigerian Glans Logic.

Sterope:
That man is despicable. I thought he was just a misogynist. I didn't know he was a pervert as well.

Worse than a pervert. A walking sex bomb.

He's well-known for his online advocacy of sex for underaged girls. His posts are usually drivel and yet he sees himself as some sort of intellectual. He's not only a misogynist, there's more to every misogynist.

And the question is: what is his gain? Would his little daughters be fair game in his underage sex advocacy? Little children in primary School are who he considers ripe for sex.

It seems logic ends for males once sex is involved. Men lack critical thinking, let alone sensible and sustainable thinking. Everything they think is just how to promote beneficial sex for themselves, even in the most stupid of ways. He is a prime case.

FreeIgboho:
Well, I decided to ask Google and was not surprised at all: the peak of attraction for women is 18, while for men it is 50. And I suspect the only reason it is not younger for women is because 18 is almost universally the age of consent. Of course there are exceptions, but generally speaking women are attracted to maturity and gravitas (and money in poorer countries), while most men are attracted to looks (and for many, also a certain something about youth that has nothing to do with looks!)

There is no natural instinct for that madness, but unbridled lust, no ethics, and the fact that men have been doing it for centuries. They are the ones who have made up what is acceptable since time immemorial since it is their phallus that will benefit from any hole they stick it in. It isn't acceptable.

I think we should ask more women what they are attracted to sexually, as that seems to be male criteria for picking little girls, not anything else.

Naturally, women will be sexually attracted to much younger men/boys. Economically, perhaps not. The same way men economically aren't attracted to younger women.

The googled findings need better criteria/interpretations for the results provided.

Because from that I can deduce that men will support attraction to 4 year old girls just because they lack ethics and inhibitions and some "research" says they can. And we should support them because it is "natural" to men. It isn't natural. It is borne of no inhibitions. Animalistic thinking. The same thinking that makes many men have sex with their daughters and sisters, the so called natural instinct which is actually a lack of inhibition and ethics.

Were it to be 11 year old boys anuses in question, there would be no agreement to that googled info let alone such info.

Rebuke:
Good. I personally will do the same. Judging from my experience, alot of kids go through tough time in school because of some silly teachers who think they have the right to cane children at will.

Sometimes as a kid, yhu will adjust thinking it is right thing to be beaten at school.

We were taught as kids to respect people and our teachers, I didn't know how to let them know at home that one particular teacher like that was always beating me at every opportunity.

I suddenly became very scared of going to school and I couldn't still explain to my parents because I thought the teacher was doing the right thing by beating me even when I couldn't figure out my wrongs.....

The same man would be the first to come to great my parent everytime they came to pick up themselves. Very familiar with my parent yet wicked to me. I was also very scared of him saying he would beat me up and let me parent know that I haven't been serious with school......

Other kids would be playing around during break hour but I mustn't, he made sure I was always on my own and always insulting me in the front of my mates.

Let me not even continue, thinking about it still hurts right now. It seems most of yhu were lucky not to find that bad teacher who made yhu to hate school.


With my experience, I must let my children know their right in school and if any idiiot touches my child for whatever reason, I will personally go to the school and have a show with him.

Nonsense!

The woman's child was being caned in school?

FreeIgboho:
You mean Toks.2008. Oh, I don't think he is more potential pedophile than most men. I think it's more a case of refusing to budge even after being shown that your stand is flawed. Truth be told, left to most men's natural instinct, the age of consent would be 14 to 16.

Once there's a thread in which a sex pest is caught, trust him to come and spill his usual drivel. It is boring.

He will go on and on and claim that anyone who doesn't agree with his points isn't intellectual. Hardly what an intelligent person will come up with. He does it ad nauseum. If that is his brand of intellect, it should be out with the garbage. Is underage sex advocacy the only strata of intellect? If it isn't drivel, he won't post it.

What exactly is his point? Okay, when all the old men like himself(so he claims) have had sex with all the 11 year old girls he is avocating sex for, what does that categorically do for him? Why is his focus particularly on defending underage sex with female minors? He has done it for years and the antics are becoming a true tell of what he harbors, tolerates. He's just a lost, hollow sexist rape apologist.

There is no natural instinct— rather there is lack of inhibition and ethics. Men cannot claim to be mad naturally. Women would be naturally drawn to well-built 14 to 16 year old boys with tender virility if such absurdity was "natural".

It was good to see someone try to reeducate him. Though in vain.

Hathor5:
I wish they had the balls to say such things offline so that we know around who to be particularly careful with our daughters.

It's good that we can see how they think online. Offline they stand on the fence and look for mediation rather than the law taking it's full course.

That particular guy has taken his defense of underage sex and other public sex acts to another level. Why is it so appetizing to him when he knows it is wrong, but is always looking for a law to justify it? It's not as if he upholds every law. Too many sick men on the forum.

FreeIgboho:
My brother you are the one making easily disproved statements. First you said "Justice system can't be so draconian...", then you said there was no eyewitness.

As for age of consent, my brother the law is VERY CLEAR that AoC is 18. The courts are just pretending about lacuna. The law was passed in 2015. You can't find any prominent person or NGO since 2015 who says AoC is 11. There'd be outrage.
There is nothing there for a lawyer to interprete, unless they are just being mischievous.
I DARE ANY LAWYER TO INTERPRET THE BELOW TO MEAN AoC IS 11.
(Note that the constitution defines "child" as any one below 18)

You're still at it?

In defense of sex with underaged girls, this guy is on every such thread with his law of 11 years.

He clearly feels older men can have sex with little girls because they have vaginas, and the argument you are having has been had every year with him on almost every thread that there is a raped female child, or that has a man clearly committing a contemptuous sexual act.

Lawless and without ethics, all to seem logical and "different" while playing devil's advocate.

Magnoliaa:
Hmm. I wonder now too. I'm sure it'll have a social and cultural origin. It literally means ''a returnee from abroad.'' So maybe our parents then actually used it as some form of prestige phrase. He just came back from Yankee, fresh from London, etc., and then it turned to a proper name. That's the namely meaning.

Then the other meaning (which could be degrading as well) is the second-hand one and is used for things, objects...

Oh, the clothes are tokunbo because they come from abroad! Finally I know what it means! Always thought it just meant used clothes.

Hopefully parents aren't still calling their children by that name? Bullying could arise from the name at the playground.

Magnoliaa:
Awww. But nahhh, it's not hard at all. Yes. You're right. I love how you pieced that together.

A jalopy is a used and worn out car. Tokunbo is the generally Yoruba term... it can also be a name and can be shortened. So there!

What is the actual meaning of Tokunbo, though? I find it hard to believe anyone will name a child "jalopy". Does it mean second child, in reference to second-hand goods?

Magnoliaa:
Lol... you understand Yoruba, though?

Unfortunately not, but I heard it isn't very difficult to learn.

I know that tokunbo things are used items, a jalopy will likely be a tokunbo thing. Jalopee2008

Magnoliaa:
The moniker been dey always sound like car brand for my eyes ni. A tokunbo kind of car. Na why I change am to jalopee.

Laughing out loud.

Jalopee. I don't think I'll refer to him by any other name. Excellent "synonym".

Magnoliaa:
Hello, tueh tueh. Adedoja Olaniyi Bah, is that you? 3 life and 76 years, are you calling? Mr. Oyinbogoju - you disguising?

Ok. We are watching in 5D. A minor a lady, and this? Okurrrrrr.

Jalopee LMAO

It really could be. Guy is always in support of underage sex.

Sterope:
I actually didn't read this. Just a little prodding you are beginning to reveal your true self. Why am I not surprised?

Once there's a thread on sexual crimes committed by males, especially underage sex by much older men, be sure to see him playing devil's advocate posting his flawed logic and desperately in support of the sexual crime(s) by trying so hard to find laws that support the crimes he savors. He believes he is the mouth piece of male sex offenders. There's no sexual crime committed by a man that he won't use the cover of male logic to defend. This is someone who says he is old, yet the reasoning of gray hair is his enemy.

There was once a Lady filmed a guy masturbating near her, you need to see the defense he mounted in support of public masturbation. It was disgusting.

What is most worrisome is that there are people way stupider than him who give him likes.

Many of the people who make these rape apology /explanatory posts are sex offenders who see nothing wrong in what they have done and are doing.

If women say that they are marginalized, men will say they are playing victim and looking to benefit where they didn't work. They will state how women are trying to pull the heartstrings of men in order to manipulate them. They will advise themselves to take the red pill and harden up, so that they will not hear the true cries of marginalized women.

Now a man is being marginalized in pretty much the same way. Let's see if he's playing the victim card or not.


Said it. See it now.

metalgear11:
I remember when I was still young, this was sometimes in 1998. My dad had been appointed as the sole administrator(i.e. chairman) of one of the local governments in our state under the then military administration. You know how some of these our old Yoruba elders can be sometimes - because one of their "sons of the land" is in a government position, they feel so entitled. This old man (I hear he has been late for a while now) usually came to our house almost every other day to see my dad. My pale man would give him some money, only for him to come again about three days later. This man will just siddon balance for our sitting room like he owned the place. There was a day my dad went to his station. He left around 7am. About 30 minutes later, this man came sauntering in. My dad had a few days earlier given my grandmum(may her soul rest in peace) some money to give this man, and here he was again. We told him dad was not at home as he had traveled and would not be back until very late, thinking he will go away as everyone was already fed up of him. Na so this man balance for chair, and sat there until my dad came back around 10pm. Immediately my dad came in and saw him - I guess he must have been very exhausted from his travels - he told the man to come with him and they marched out of the house. He later told us he lodged him in a guest house somewhere.

This went on until the end of my dad's tenure. That's when the old man's visits stopped. Our very next door neighbor(who coincidentally was also from the same hometown as my dad) was appointed shortly after as the director of the satellite campus of one of the universities. It was not long afterwards that we started seeing this same old man going over there and repeating the act he did with us. Not even a shameful bone in his body. He didn't even think we would see him there, or he may not have cared.

LOL!

Pataricatering:
exactly- the way Nigerian men describe how they are the breadwinners you would think all women go to school , finish university and then go to their fathers house to rest and relax while waiting for their breadwinner to come get them .

Not only the men have bought into that narrative, it seems. There are some prominent female monikers fighting for the narrative.

Too many people believe a lady can't have a car, and if she does she must be egotistic. Then who are all the young ladies driving cars? They always want a woman who will meet them at their level, desire to be such a woman, and yet they see a prime example of it and it is still offending them. What do these people really want?

The kinds of comments we see on the forum are a reflection of something deeply wrong with the populace.

Pataricatering:
it could have happened . I've been on a date with a dude - I drove to the joint he bussed to the joint - Date over he walked to the busstop and I hopped in my car .

The only way people on this forum could believe it is if the genders are reversed. They've convinced themselves all females are broke and depend on them. Even the daughters of rich men don't exist, just to satisfy their twisted gospel.

Metrofox:
girl's just a stupid narcissist, what it means is she's not even interested in pursuing a relationship with a guy just because she's 'higher' than he is and she couldn't wait to run online to rant about her perceived higher social status waiting for her ego to get massaged

Yet when a man does it, he's called red pilled and hailed for testing her to know her true intents. Nobody questions if such a post is lies or garbage.

Is it wrong for men to be victims of their own types of "tests"? Or is it that women doing so is such a bad thing?

Majority of the comments are attacking the lady, instead of commending her for not turning down his offer. What is wrong if he doesn't know she has a car and they can meet at his level? Isn't that what men and women on the forum always say, that they want a woman who will "build with them" and other false scenarios? Now she's ready to go down with him and look at all the comments. If she did turn down his offer, you people will still say she's so egotistic for telling him to enter her car, that this type of Lady will be domineering the hypergamous man.

There's no pleasing men and women on matters of women.

pocohantas:
Nigerian celebs have very poor taste. Especially the ones in the music industry. When you see the kind of women they impregnate or the kind of men they are dating, you understand that money can’t buy class.

If Tiwa had some class or standard at least, what is she doing with an urchin who whipped out his phone in a pleasurable moment to video his woman? A woman he knows is a top rated African artist. A brand ambassador to various organizations. The mother of a growing child and role model to some girls that I don’t know.

She said he was using Snapchat? What kinda man uses SnapChat? Most sensible men can go 200 years without taking a picture. But Tiwa’s own downloaded Snapchat and decided to use it for sex video.

When I say, don’t fck with men that have nothing to lose, it is for a reason. Don’t fck men without a reputation to protect. Their senses are inactive, a perfect contrast to their gbola. Kpokpogarri and the likes. Spits!

It is most surprising that it's 2021 and people are still making sex tapes. So long as people not having sense continues, there will always be these cases.

If only men stopped playing victim about these things.

https://www.nairaland.com/6788228/cost-getting-married-poor-family#106486560

Here is a similar situation. 8 years of dating and he suddenly can't marry because she's suddenly illiterate because she's an SSCE holder. She has not created a thread to make the author of the thread look bad.

Is this the new breed of slaymen who whine and bring everything online? Or is the pay now so juicy?