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 Islam › Re: Reconciling The Quran With The Jews And Christians Scriptures by brocab: 2:34pm On Jan 16, 2015*. Modified: 3:37pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
Angry "unbelievable" You do know Jesus Loves you, only if you turn from your sinful ways Jesus can save you. Read the Bible, you may find the Qur'an is pretty much the same. It will blow your mind? When I started reading it years ago, I haven't stopped, Jesus is so real, I bet if you asked him to reveal himself to you, he will come at your request. Being a Christian for the Lord has changed my life. And he will change yours too. I have many Muslim friends, and I don't judge them because they believe in another God. But I pray for them. There's a truth in all this, and we know their's so many different religions out there. Which one is the truth? I have studied many of them, and I have found Jesus Christ is the truth. He has spoken to me in word and heart, he shows me dreams, lately its be of the end time coming. I have studied a little on Allah, but all I have seen is Men and Women who claim they are Muslims who are willing to turn against their own. Murdering by torch er, beheading and blowing ones self up, don't match up with the kind of God I'm looking for. The Lord said: you know them by their fruit. That don't give a peaceful Muslim believer a chance to claim his/hers innocents does it? Casting demons over me won't make a difference to me, I won't denounce my beliefs. I Love Jesus as my Lord. Making some kind of a threat on this forum Allah will strike me down-my punishment should never cease. Is it because I won't bow down to Allah, this sounds like another Isis. Don't you know Government monitor these forum's. Jesus Christ is Lord, the King of Kings and the Lord or Lords. aanikky, like you, one day we all will have to front up to death someday. God is the judge, he will decide, who go's either way. But open up you heart a bit, think before you say anything, But ask Jesus to show himself. aanikky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by brocab: 1:27pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
It don't matter how many times you tell them, they won't listen. Trying to bring a tither to Christ, is like trying to bring the Pope. Tithers are to set in their own beliefs. The truth is written, and these so called want a be Christians rather not read the truth, but seek only after the Mammon these pastors preach. Bring all your tithes into the storehouse so my house will be full of riches. This shows clearly these so called believers rather listen to this false doctrine, because Christ wasn't rich enough." How can anyone survive, on just seeking the Lord and his Kingdom? Tithers who are in these prosperity Churches, are only there because they are just as Guilty as everyone else who sits beside them. Keep up the good work get that word out. imagrg: |
| Islam › Re: Reconciling The Quran With The Jews And Christians Scriptures by brocab: 10:35am On Jan 16, 2015*. Modified: 3:38pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: Reconciling The Quran With The Jews And Christians Scriptures by brocab: 1:03pm On Jan 15, 2015 |
My Moon-God, you don't know your past? You say your a Muslim and yet you don't know any history about any of your own beliefs. Great? I'm I writing to someone who has no clue about your Allah god. Wow. You believe for what purpose, is it because members of your family believe. You write on here because you think many would believe in you-Allah a God who you twisted the true meaning against God himself. You have adopted Allah, Gods name, using it to savagely murder the innocents. Is this what kind of Muslim you are? What a joke. aanikky: |
| Islam › Re: Reconciling The Quran With The Jews And Christians Scriptures by brocab: 8:21pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
The bible had to be written because the people who believed in the Qu'ran would refuse Jesus, God's only begotten son, the savour of the world. Muslims and Jews read the same Qu'ran about Allah God, they believe in Abraham, they believe Jesus is the spirit of God. But yet Muslims-Jews have been in battle for centuries, Is it Because God blessed Israel? You are true brothers in word. Why? |
| Islam › Re: Reconciling The Quran With The Jews And Christians Scriptures by brocab: 6:02pm On Jan 14, 2015*. Modified: 2:02am On Jan 15, 2015 |
Then you need to worship your God, Jesus is his name, Allah won't save you, Allah can't. "Question" We hear of many Muslims such as Isis murdering Christians, and others who refuse to believe in Allah, you have been fighting against the Jews, over the promise land God had blessed for centuries, You say you follow the same god, yet it seems you are contradicting yourselves when Muslim people are slaughtering innocent believers, because one calls his God by a different name. You say Jesus is just one of your prophets, {you mean to say one of your slaughtered prophets} not only a prophet, but the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. Jesus sits down at the right hand of "God" the Father in heaven. You believe in the Qur'an, then you would believe Jesus is called the Spirit of God. Qur'an 3:45-O Mary! Behold God gives you good News of a Word from Him, who shall become known as the Messiah, Jesus, Son of Mary. Qur'an 4:171- The Messiah Jesus Son of Mary. was only are Messenger of God, and His Word which conveyed unto Mary. The bible teaches that God's spirit is God himself, God is spirit, surely you would agree with this, how ever if you are the spirit of God, then you are God. Since that is nature. Don't you realize the bible had to be written by the spirit of God, teaches he's own disciples so people from all nations would believe in word and truth in the Old and New Testaments. God knew if his people stayed with the Qur'an they would denie his only begotten Son. And the evidence had proving it's self over time. His own people didn't recognize the spirit of God, a messiah had come, even the prophets before Jesus, were slaughtered because they foretold of Jesus's coming. Talk about rejection, and do you know everyone who follows Jesus is hated by the world, because they first hated him. Today shows the evident's Jesus is hated by all nations, look at you. And yet Jesus paid a price, died, forgiving you and I, to save the world. Today we hear of many believers are slaughtered every day by your people, Muslims like Jews believe in that same written book the Qur'an, and you still slaughter each other, God had blessed the land of Jerusalem. And Abraham had two sons, first one was from Hagar the slave woman, the other from Sarah again a son was born who God had blessed, and Sarah was called the free woman, and the Mother of all nations. The Qur'an was written before Jesus's time, by the prophets it was foretold {written} the messiah is coming, Qur'an 3:45, and still, even to this day, you still don't believe, Qur'an 3:39- God Gives you good news of { a son whose name is} John, Who comes to confirm a word from God. John the Baptise spoke of him of his coming. it was John who baptised Jesus and said: behold the savour of the world has come. Sending two of his disciples to follow after Jesus. And yet It was Jesus who stepped out of the Qur'an comfort zone, Jesus the spirit of God done many Miracles, walked on water, healed the sick, the blind now see, the dead had raised, people now walk, he had preached salvation, he taught in there synagogues, Jesus had showing the world the written messiah had come, and still they murdered him by crucifixion, Jesus the spirit of God was beating to the point that no-one could recognise him carried his cross to his death site nailed to a tree. Jesus then said: forgive them Father. Name another who could do the works Jesus had done. The prophets foretold his coming, to his death, and none like you had recognised him. no-one knew of him, and he stood before you all. And you still, don't believe. The prophets foretold In three day's Jesus has rising. So one can believe. Cant "Allah" recognize his own son, while sitting beside him? Qur'an It is not for God to take a son unto him, so it would be impossible for any son as a savour to sit on the right side of Allah. Allah sits alone? 1 John 1:6-If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we are liars and do not practice the truth. What has your god done for you, and others who believe? aanikky: |
| Islam › Re: Reconciling The Quran With The Jews And Christians Scriptures by brocab: 3:08am On Jan 14, 2015*. Modified: 5:25am On Jan 14, 2015 |
Allah the Moon-God. You readers must know that Islam, Judaism, and Christianity all worship different Gods. The religion of Islam has its focus of worship a deity by the name Allah! The Muslims claim that Allah is pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the patriarchs, prophets, and apostle. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslims claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians' for if Allah is part of the flow of divine revelation in scripture, then it is the next step to biblical religion, that we should all become Muslims. But on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religion claims often full, before the results of hard sciences such as Archaeology. We endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah as we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was a moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters. Archaeologists have un-coved temples to the moon-god throughout the middle east, from the mountains of turkey to the banks of the Nile. The most wide-spread religion of the ancient world was to worship the moon-god in the first literate civilization, the Sumerian's have left us thousands of clay tablets in which they described their religious beliefs. As demonstrated by Sjoberg and hall, the ancient Sumerian's worshippers a moon-god" who was called many different names, the most popular names were Nanna, Sven and asimbabbar. His symbol was the crescent moon. Given the amount of the Artefacts concerning the worship of the moon-god. It is clear that this was the dominant religion in Sumeria. The cult of the moon-god was the most popular religion through out ancient Mesopotamia. The Agrarians Babylonians and the Akkadians took the word sven and transformed it into the word "Sin" as their favourite name for the moon-god. "Sin" is the name essentially Sumerian! In sign which had been borrowed by the Semites! In ancient Syria and Canna the moon-god "Sin" was usually represented by the moon in its crescent phase. At times the full moon was placed inside the crescent moon to emphasize all the phases of the moon. The Sun Goddess was the wife of Sin and the stars were their daughters of Sin. Sacrifices to the moon-god are described in the Pas-Sharma texts, in the Ugaritic texts, the moon-god was sometimes called Kusuh, in Persia as well as in Egypt, the moon-god is depicted on wall murals and on the heads of statues, He was the judge of all men and Gods. The Old Testament constantly rebuked the worship of the moon-god {Deuteronomy 4:19, And take heed, lest you lift your eyes to heaven, and when you see the Sun, the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, you feel driven to worship them and serve them. 17:3, Who has gone and served other gods and worshipped them, either the sun or moon or any of the host in heaven. 2 Kings 21:3-5, For he rebuilt the high places which Hezekiah his father had destroyed; he raised up altars for Baal, and made a wooden image, as Ahab King of Israel had done; and he worshipped all the host of heaven and served them. He built altars in the house of the Lord, of which the Lord had said: "In Jerusalem I will put my name." 23:5, Then he removed the idolatrous priests whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense on the high places in the cities of Judah and in the places all around Jerusalem, and those who burned incense to Baal, to the Sun and to the Moon. Jeremiah 8:2,19:13, And the houses of Jerusalem and the houses of the kings of Judah shall be defiled like the place of Tophet, because of all the houses on whose roofs they have burned incense to all the host of heaven, and poured out drink offerings to other gods. Zephaniah 1:5 etc..} Repent to the true God, "Jesus Christ" and be saved, don't be fooled by this "Allah" a moon-god named "Sin", who's waiting for your arrival in the pits of Hell. aanikky: |
| Islam › Re: Reconciling The Quran With The Jews And Christians Scriptures by brocab: 12:05am On Jan 14, 2015*. Modified: 5:51am On Jan 14, 2015 |
Do you even believe Jesus is your messiah, the days Jesus was walking with you, none of you recognized him. The Prophets spoke of him, John the Baptise spoke of him, and you had him murdered. Jesus preformed many miracles, raised the dead, healed the sick, walked on water, the blind now see, preached salvation, fed thousands, and still today you don't believe. Your forefathers were healed, and still you reject him. What your forefathers had done in the past, murdering the Prophets, slaughtered them, and crucifying them. Some were cut in half, you ripped of their arms and legs, some stoned to death, others buried alive. You murdered Jesus the messiah the King of the Jews, you ripped his body apart so badly he wasn't even recognizable, you then made him carry his own cross to his own slaughter to be crucified on the tree. The Jew's had murdered Jesus who is the promise. And all Jesus could say, forgive them Father. He died to save all man kind their sins. But don't worry Jesus the messiah, the King of the Jews is coming back to redeem Israel and the world Amen. And do you even believe Hell-fire is just about painful groaning, the demons will turn your insides out while you feel every bit of pain you could Amazon, your screams will reach the heavens but no-one can save you, you are there for eternity, tormented day and night. Those who don't believe Jesus is lord, that God raised him from the dead, will surely join with you while you are burning in hell-fire. Your love ones. Turn your ways, believe in Jesus who sits on the right hand of God our Father in Heaven. No-one will enter heaven with the Father God, without Jesus-salvation has come. Believe, save yourselves and your families, friends, strangers around you. The time is coming soon, Salvation is knocking on your door, believe Jesus can save you. Jesus said: I am the bread. I am the light of the world. I am the gate. I am the good shepherd. I am the resurrection & the life. I am the way & the truth & the life. I am the true vine. "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born I am. Jesus Christ is Lord. Rilwon: |
| Christianity Etc › Do You Know Jesus. "Question" Does Jesus Know You? by brocab(op): 8:16pm On Jan 12, 2015*. Modified: 11:00pm On Jan 13, 2015 |
Do you know Jesus, all should we say: does Jesus know you. 1 John 2:4 He who say's "I know him," and does not keep his commandments, is a liar and the truth is not in him. He who says: he is in the light, and hates his Brother-sister-enemy, friend, family, is in darkness until now. Only one sin, can lead you to Hell. Matthew 5:44 But I say to you love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you. " that you maybe sons of your Father in Heaven. Do you fear God? Matthew 7:22 "Many will say to me in that day "Lord Lord", have we not prophesied in your name, cast out Demons in you name and done many wonders in your name? "And I will declare to them,"I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness. Have you tested yourselves, do you test the spirits, are you following God's commandments, have you no fear in God, do you know" you are already planning your own destiny's. Are you Christians out of your minds? Its sad to say: less than 1 to 50 years from now, many "Christians' will end up in Hell, do you know' Demons hate Christians, they will pull your spirit body apart tarring it to pieces, your spirit won't die, you will feel every bit of pain, every tare, Satan and his demons will rip you inside out, your screams will cover a multitude for more pain, over and over, tormenting you day and night for eternity. They say: It's worst for Christians. Do you know Satan's a liar and his plan to keep you on the highways before death comes, do you believe once saved always saved. Do you think you will have enough time to repent on your last breath? Have you not heard of different testimonies, people have seen different parts of hell, bringing back their stories, so we receive a full insight about the truth in Hell, do you believe God Judges us, is the worldly lust more greater then our Creator. Do you read your bibles? Do you know, those who refuse to listen are heading for Hell night and day, do you think everyone will make Heaven. Your loves ones. Have you no fear in God, he has the power, to send you either way. Is that your price to pay. Do you really believe you are saved? Do you believe there is one God, even the Demons believe, you believe Jesus is Lord, even the Demons believe. Do you dress to show your face to the Lord, or do you dress to show of your body to the world. Are you a Christian? Go to Church every Saturday-Sunday, are you walking with God? Are you a drunkard, do you take drugs, abuse your children, swear, do you steal, are you robbing God, do you judge, argue against your parents, unthankful, unloving, do you party, night clubbing, do you commit adultery, do you lust after men, women, and children, do you worship Idol's, stars-worldly music, actors-worldly movies, are you addicted playing computer games 24/7, do you cause anybody to stubble. Are you part of a religious group that's leading you to Hell, are you part of a cult? Are you tithing under old law, do you follow the curse, do you worship mammon, more than God? Again do you follow the Lord's commandments? 1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from him who declare to you, that God is Light and in him is no darkness at all. How many of you understand what Jesus had said? V's 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. Do you know what this scripture is telling you. If we say that we have been saved and walk in darkness, we are liars and do not practice the truth. 1 John 2:15-17 Do not love the world or the things in the world, If any one loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye's and the pride of life-is not of the Father but of the world. Test yourselves Are you really saved? |
| Politics › Re: 7 Things Fr. Mbaka Got Absolutely Wrong by brocab: 1:06am On Jan 11, 2015 |
When we walk though the shadow of Death, fear no evil Amen. sko: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Powerful Quote Of The Day By Pastor Adeboye by brocab: 12:38am On Jan 11, 2015*. Modified: 12:55am On Jan 11, 2015 |
Tithing hmm, do we follow the Pharisees, or do we follow the Lord. But in Matthew 23:23 Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees Hypocrites! For you pay tithe of Mint {"which either in our English language can mean Money, But in the Old Hebrew language its a herb used"} like and anise and cumin were herbs. Its strange the Lord didn't say in this scripture you pay tithes in shekels and silver, when there were plenty going around. But he didn't he was talking about Herbs, the Pharisees would follow after Abraham, it was Abraham who followed after God. And the tithing law was about foods, so the mint was a herb. Matthew 23 all of that page, Jesus again had ago at them, because they were neglecting the matters of the law: Justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. So the Pharisees weren't following God's law, but their own. Did Jesus tithe? Matthew 17:24 While Jesus and his disciples were in Capernaum, the temple tax collectors came to peter and said: "Does your Teacher not pay the temple tax?" He said: "Yes" after coming into the house, Jesus asked him, "What do you think, "Simon? From whom do the Kings of the earth take customs {tithes} or taxes, from their own sons or from strangers? Peter said: to him, "From strangers." Jesus said: to him, 'Then the sons are free. Do you understand that? We are sons and we are free. Jesus then said: Nevertheless lest we offend them, go to the sea, cast a hook, and take the fish that comes up first. And when you have opened its mouth you will find a piece of money; take that and give it to them for you and Me. Jesus gave them the temple custom tithe because he didn't want to argue over it, giving them what the tax collectors had asked for. Jesus says: he loves a cheerful giver, giving freely. Not a tithe demand that can cause arguments and destitute of corrupt minds. Jesus only paid his custom tithe or taxes because he was verbally force too. Maybe you like many others who don't study bible scriptures listen to the Greedy, {Today's Pharisees} twisting scriptures around to suit their needs, not obeying God's word, but your own. Matthew 23:23 only points out he was having ago at the Pharisees, because they didn't believe in the truth. WINDSOW: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Truth About Giving. by brocab: 12:16am On Jan 10, 2015*. Modified: 1:45am On Jan 10, 2015 |
Everyone has a need, everyday as I awake I'm blessed and I prosper. I'm blessed as I prosper seeing my family awake. When I give I'm blessed and I prosper. I'm blessed as I prosper when I open my bible. Giving is not always about finances. I don't give, so eventually I will prosper riches [Monies} as a Pay-back system. I'm blessed as I prosper when I give my time to seek God's kingdom. I'm blessed as I prosper when I study and spend time with the Lord. I'm blessed as I prosper when I share the word. I'm blessed as I prosper when the Lord tells me to give and to whom, I'm blessed as I prosper when I give to the needy. I'm blessed as I prosper to be a watchmen. I'm blessed as I prosper when the Lord shows me scriptures. I'm blessed as I prosper when the Lord talks with me. I'm blessed as I prosper having the end times dreams. I'm blessed as I prosper while listening to others preach the truth. I'm blessed as I prosper watching the end time prophesy worldly news on the net. I'm blessed as I prosper knowing the Lord is with me at all times. I'm blessed as I prosper to know I have my riches in heaven with the Lord. I'm blessed as I prosper because I'm one of the promised. I'm blessed as I prosper when the Lord said: ask and it will be given unto you, seek and you will find. I'm blessed as I prosper to know end time events are falling into place, as the Lord said it will. I'm blessed as I prosper knowing the Lord's coming back. I'm blessed as I prosper knowing the end times are moving fast-a new world order and a new world religion is about to fall into place-sooner than we think. I'm blessed as I prosper to share that with you. The Lord has blessed and prospered myself and my family as we seek. The lord knows our needs. I'm blessed to say: with a kind and a prosperous word the truth will set you free. And last of all I'm blessed as I prosper because I don't follow that prosperous get rich plan system on the tithing doctrines. uchkochi: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: See What The Love Of Money Caused At A Church In Lagos by brocab: 10:17am On Jan 09, 2015 |
If that's the case than i will give you a tithe from the spoil of war, Its settled. shachris03: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 1:57am On Jan 09, 2015*. Modified: 2:47am On Jan 09, 2015 |
You need to read it again it was King Sodom who met Abram, not Melchizdek King salem. It was Abram who lifted up his hand to the Lord God and said: I will take nothing from the spoils of war, so that the kings-priest could say they have made Abram rich. Abram was already rich, he already had the promise, and blessed before the war "by God", Melchizdek blessed him, after receiving a tenth from the spoils of war. Some say: Melchizdek and Jesus were the same persons, both from another tribe, both priest forever, but Jesus lives on. Levi priesthood received tithes from the richer Jews those who had farms, shock, crops, herds, all merchant's back in those day's, tithing wasn't for everyone, Jesus didn't tithe, he was a carpenter, he didn't sin either, his disciples didn't tithe, even thu they were sinners. Tax collectors received taxes: Jesus quoted give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and give to God what belongs to God. And he told Peter to take a coin out of the fishes mouth to pay the tax, only because Jesus didn't want to argue over it. Those who received the temple tax came to Peter and said: "Does your Teacher not pay the temple tax?" He said: yes." Jesus anticipated him saying, "What do you think, Simon? From whom do the kings of the earth take customs {which were tithes}or taxes, from their own sons or from strangers?" Peter said: to him "From strangers" Jesus said: to him, THEN THE SONS ARE FREE. So we are sons to the lord, the Lord said clearly we don't pay temple customs or taxes. Chylo: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Powerful Quote Of The Day By Pastor Adeboye by brocab: 1:19am On Jan 09, 2015*. Modified: 2:44am On Jan 09, 2015 |
Do you understand the mysteries on tithing? Firstly tithing was said in scripture only to help feed the Levi priesthood and the poor in need. No-where in the bible does it say: tithing is money. One says: if you know how to speak a good yarn {lie} many will believe it, the money scam came from a group of religious con's who knew how to speak a good yarn twisting scriptures around so the believers will believe. Tithing was never meant for greed, {Money} men and women taking advantage of the innocent-twisting and turning Bible verses to retrieve a large wager each week, while the hard working labour earns and sweats their hard weeks wage. Paul said: its best that we all work: so we don't become a burden to no man. Our job is to connect with God build the land, while God fills it with rain, milk and honey. Before the fall, we had the garden of Eden. Hell doors are always open. Live as Jesus lived, as we all live. The truth will set you free. Amen WINDSOW: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 1:48am On Jan 07, 2015 |
Its clearly understandable to see different doctrines being preached on this forum. One doctrine say's: Aaron would sacrifice for the remissions of sins, as part of the law on tithing and offerings. In other words we have those who continue to bring all their tithes into the storehouse under the O/Testament law by works only to receive God's blessings. Not everyone could enter the chambers to meet the Holy spirit with Aaron in the temple made with hands. The other doctrine says: For on the other hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness. For the law made nothing prefect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to god. Jesus had made away by sacrificing himself so we are closer to God through the Holy spirit who lives in us all; we are the temple, Jesus has become a surety of the better covenant. You love either one, or love the other. You either follow Jesus as saved, or unsaved. Works with out faith is dead. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 12:37am On Jan 07, 2015 |
You should read back on your scrip's read through clearly, you said: Jesus is not all from Judah. Chylo: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 12:24am On Jan 07, 2015*. Modified: 12:48am On Jan 07, 2015 |
I did, now your turn to read Hebrews it's in English. Hebrews 7: 12-14 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. V's 13 For he of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar. V's 14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood. So it's in black and white read it and wimp. So that must mean we also are from the other tribe no-tithing. no-percentage. Your turn. Let me ask you, why are to trying to push everyone to pay more then a percentage when you say you don't believe in tithing. Chylo: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 9:38pm On Jan 06, 2015 |
Accepted, we aren't angry at you, you need to understand, twisting bible verses won't sit with any of us. Plus your teachings is from another tribe, one that may believe "Abraham" is their true foundation. Many use Abram as a starting point to preach on tithes. With Jesus we hear a lot of guessing, because they don't know him. He said clearly his from another tribe, not the tribe of tithing. Jesus's tribe, is the true foundation, so we don't need to talk about tithing, or a percentage, Jesus didn't preach it. Their are so many different religions out there, and no-one really seems to recognizes Him, they recognize Abraham. Jesus said: He came in his Fathers name and no-one accepted him, and if someone else comes in his own name him you will accept. The world follows its own, like sheep ready for the slaughter. Chylo: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 8:46pm On Jan 06, 2015 |
Are you really a Christian, because as I read your scriptures, your biblical writings are more on the JW's beliefs. They will twist and turn bible text around trying to support people to turn the other way, using Abraham as there foundation. Read Hebrews 7 Jesus is from another tribe Judah that Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood. And every time the tithing messages are preached, It's Abraham who fits the bill-Not Jesus. Chylo: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 8:04pm On Jan 06, 2015 |
You are going to use a 10% tithing us a starting giving point, {Start your engines} In the O/Testament they did give more around: 23%, so why don't you start at that rate, and make all your pastors happy. Don't forget to advertise it, as the Pharisees done in the old days. Chylo: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 7:37pm On Jan 06, 2015 |
Firstly I don't give a percentage. Secondly I don't calculate my giving, can you calculated your giving all in one day? It would take me a life time working it out. I don't give to receive brownie points from the Lord. Is that what you do? Good and faithful servant. I believe you are a tither, you say you don't tithe but you keep on going back to the 10 percentage tithing law. Plus your trying to twist words around, expecting us to listen to your mumble jumble preaching, so many will fall under that curse you carry. Sorry:Jesus Christ has set me free my heart and mind is on the truth. The Lord said: the truth will set you free. So are you a preacher looking for more cash' and that little more I don't give, shall I give all my monies to you? Chylo: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 4:45pm On Jan 06, 2015*. Modified: 7:00pm On Jan 06, 2015 |
What are you saying: are you on the same planet, is this about your questions on tithing? What makes you think I'm deceiving myself, when I give' I don't tic myself off with any percentage points. I don't need to add my figures up at the end of the week to prove myself to God, for him to say: well done good and faithful servant. As most of us know O/Testament tithes were used as temple taxes. Given under the same purposes as they are today, the Tithing was used to support the people in the land. Since: In most countries the law was giving to the people of the land to pay a tithe {10%} taxes to Governments each week. A booklet written under "The Act's" a rule made under God's law, and still stands. The taxes are used to support the people in the land. Some may have other idea's, but "The Act's" was the plan to survive The Lord has warned us all in word, many will come in his name: Satan has use False preachers-pastors-who lead some small, most mega Churches; claiming under a charity system turning God's people against one-another, twisting bible text so one can pay more taxes plus offerings, around the 23% yearly income from O/Testament tithing, on a weekly wage. Don't you think the Lord knows: Many of you don't realize, at the end of the day, your not giving, your paying O/Testament 23% tithing. These Organizations are run by Governments, Churches run under a charity system, so Governments will have full control running schools, entertainment, businesses, selling books, Dvd's, Cd's, coffee-tea, restaurants, involved on Church grounds, without paying any tax. The sadness is this story is: 10% tithes-taxes to the Church and again 10% taxes to your Government, and your offerings around 3% is 23% on a weekly wage. In some countries at the end of a financial year, most people retrieve a percentage of their taxes they had paid back to them, the Governments then find other way's to retrieve it back to the taxation department on daily bases. "The Act's" God's law: Under land Taxation every man/woman should work-pay land taxes , so the needy people of the land can survive. "The Act's" never said: Under Church taxation. The Lord knows and blesses me with my needs, Seek and you will find, Ask and it will be given. God already see's my faith with my works, without some religious nuttier who thinks paying a percentage pays my way into heaven? Question: We both agree with the O/Testament tithing law was dismantled, who do you give your 10/100 percent too? Chylo: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 10:25am On Jan 06, 2015*. Modified: 4:54pm On Jan 06, 2015 |
Well since theirs no law, then we are both on the same track, I give when the lord says: give. Question are you a tither? As I'm not. I give freely. not because someone says tithing is a law. What law? I give from my own heart. And everyday I'm blessed. I don't need riches, I have enough. I don't need the teaching about false doctrines on tithing. I need the lord. First seek the kingdom of God, and all things shall be added to you. Tithing was our tutor, but now we have Christ, so we don't need a tutor no more. I have studied the scriptures to know better. And I never said: I won't give God any more because the law is gone. If you are a tither than you are heading in the wrong direction. Chylo: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 12:36am On Jan 06, 2015 |
Abram paid a tithe before the law came, but your not understanding me, If my Great Great forefather-ancestor gave a tenth from the spoils of war something that didn't belong to him, out of the orderly does that mean I should follow suit. Before Jesus had sacrificed himself, tithing sacrificing and offerings was still in place. The first covenant made with our forefathers, Aaron would meet in the chambers with the Holy Spirit in the temple made with hands! Shedding the first fruits blood, himself first, and then for the people for the remission of sins. And after Jesus had sacrificed himself, changing that old covenant fulfilling it given us a better covenant, we no longer need to follow that old law on tithing, sacrificing and offerings. Because the Holy spirit now lives in Man/female temples made by God. What your not understanding is, the Non tithers Give from their hearts some more or less than others. Listen to the words: God loves a cheerful giver. He didn't say: God loves a cheerful tither, Tithing was under law. Free giving has no law. How can you say: its a law to tithe, I must tithe a tenth, to whom? And then expect me to be a cheerful giver freely. God said: bring all your food into the storehouse. Man said: bring all your money into the storehouse. Now explain to me who changed that law? Was it God? Or was it Man? Chylo: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 11:15am On Jan 05, 2015 |
Yes it tells that story Abram paid a once tithe, from the spoils of war. And it tells that story why Jacob offered God tithes, after a dream. And some where down the track God had made it into a Covenant law, tithing, sacrificing and offerings, laying down the rules for Jewish farmers, and herdsmen, etc, to pay a yearly tithe to the Levi priesthood bring your tithes {food} into my storehouse, for the works they did, and the lands they didn't own. It was never a covenant law to tithe before God had made it one. After finding fault and because of its weakness the law was changed through Jesus given us a better covenant. If your ancestors was about to jump of a bridge would you follow. Do you sacrifice for your daily sins? Jesus had sacrifice shedding his Blood once and for all. Chylo: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christians Give First Fruit Offering? by brocab: 10:44am On Jan 05, 2015 |
God works miracles. darepoju: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jews Do Not Tithe Today by brocab: 1:26am On Jan 05, 2015 |
Explain to us viewers, who changed the tithing rules, was it God, all lets say: was it man. Chylo: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christians Give First Fruit Offering? by brocab: 11:15pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
Tithing is written in the bible, but its not meant for you or anybody else to use it out of text. Do you really obey the law on tithing? If I brought my first fruit, my male herds, crops of wheat, into your storehouse, are you prepared to mix it, baked it and give it to the pastor? And are you ready to stand on the streets to feed the poor, the widows, the fatherless, etc.. Is this not the way God had commanded his people to tithe retrieving food from the farmers, the herdsmen, bring all your tithes into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house say's the Lord " If I will not open for you such blessing, That there will not be room enough to receive it. Could you show us in the bible, Who had changed the tithing rules? Was it God, or lets say: was it Man. darepoju: |
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The pastoral job shouldn't be collecting tithes. BM234: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christians Give First Fruit Offering? by brocab: 3:13pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
Good Question" And they reject the N/T laws too, they believe Money can buy love. mencade4: 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christians Give First Fruit Offering? by brocab: 3:05pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
Could you explain, when you said: some of us know what happens when we don't pay? And then you said:, no one is forced. akinwa1: |
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