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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:15pm On Mar 22, 2019
raumdeuter:
Democratic party front runners plan

Packing the Supreme court
Reducing the voting age to 16
Scrapping the electoral college

It seems whenever Liberals lose, the next thing is to change the rules
That's democracy for you, after all, it's not like we don't follow due process when we change the law.
Politics › Re: Osun Election Tribunal’s Judgment: Live Update by budaatum: 1:12pm On Mar 22, 2019
Sidaissystems:
Fraudman Do normal now.....are we a children ?
Ash him o! Are we a children, Fraudman? huh
Politics › Re: Nigeria More Divided Than During Civil War — Obasanjo by budaatum: 1:00pm On Mar 22, 2019
7Alexander:
Watch them ignore the message and attack the messenger.
The message is not true, and the messenger should know better since he was there and should not be using such lies for politiko! Go google Nigeria Civil War, read, and let me know if Nigeria was as bad as then!
Christianity Etc › Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 12:56pm On Mar 22, 2019
In fact, and on second thought, I take gods back as there's nothing intersubjective about gods apart from god's existence. Once you delve into the individuals' conception of god you'd find everyone has a subjective idea of their god and not an intersubjective agreed upon notion of god at all!
Christianity Etc › Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 12:44pm On Mar 22, 2019
johnydon22:
LOL, there isn't any shred of error in that explanation; countries are not objective anymore than their monetary value is. You don't seem to be learning as you say you are.

There is a land, there is a people, these things exist objectively (land and people) establishing and expressing that this land, these people, these cultures are part of a whole called Nigeria, is a belief.
No! It is not a belief! At least it isn't "an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof" sort of belief like a belief in extraterrestrial life! It is at best a belief based on the concrete, objectiably verifiable land, people, cultures that are part of a whole called Nigeria which one can have "trust, faith, or confidence in".

johnydon22:
Intersubjectivity does not define physical qualities but rather conceptual value and nature.
Besides the point, but Nigeria is a "physical qualities (the land, the people, the cultures) with measurable "value and nature".

johnydon22:
money is paper - does this paper exist? Yes.

the belief in money doesn't cover on whether the paper exists or not but whether this paper has a value.

A legally signed document like the constitution or partnership contract is only effective because we believe it is just like money.
Nigeria is not the same as money or a constitution.. The value of money changes everyday of every minute according to our subjective valuation of it. A constitution is by its nature subject to our constant subjective reinterpretation of it. Nigeria is a bit more stable and constant than our subjective whims permit. Its land area does not change by our whims and believes nor can we increase its number of people by believing it in our heads.

johnydon22:
Let me borrow the words of Yuval

" Sapiens rule the world, because we are the only animal that can cooperate flexibly in large numbers. We can create mass cooperation networks, in which thousands and millions of complete strangers work together towards common goals. One-on-one, even ten-on-ten, we humans are embarrassingly similar to chimpanzees. Any attempt to understand our unique role in the world by studying our brains, our bodies, or our family relations, is doomed to failure. The real difference between us and chimpanzees is the mysterious glue that enables millions of humans to cooperate effectively.

This mysterious glue is made of stories, not genes. We cooperate effectively with strangers because we believe in things like gods, nations, money and human rights. Yet none of these things exists outside the stories that people invent and tell one another. There are no gods in the universe, no nations, no money and no human rights—except in the common imagination of human beings. You can never convince a chimpanzee to give you a banana by promising him that after he dies, he will get limitless bananas in chimpanzee Heaven. Only Sapiens can believe such stories. This is why we rule the world, and chimpanzees are locked up in zoos and research laboratories."
I like Yuval, but I disagree with the notion that Nigeria is a figment of the imagination that exists only because we believe it does unlike the value of money, the constitution, and gods which exist subjectively, and intersubjectively for many..
Christianity Etc › Re: I Get This Thread Now! by budaatum(op):
Shepherd00:
Buda Jesusjnr is taking glory from your conversion,.saying he has been here only a few months two atheists, You and Michelle have turned to Christ.

Did he in any way influenced your resolve?
Everyone I've ever read on here influenced my resolve Shepherd, being as I'm an "every Word" sort of person. And I know it's written "of God" but of those here too whom I read, surely. From some we resolve to do as they do and of some we resolve not to. I can't talk for Michellekabod1 and Michellekabod2 though and I've seen her not here lately neither.

Those turned to Christ know who's kindness gives rain from heaven and crops in their seasons and who provides plenty of food and fills our hearts with joy and would not attempt to steal God's Glory!
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by budaatum: 11:56am On Mar 22, 2019
solite3:
Just like a thief resisting the urge of stealing. It would only serve to prove that he is really a thief, for if he was not a theif he wouldn't have an urge to steal in the first place.
So, if the thief stops thieving he's still a thief?

Well, not according to the Lord God Jesus the Merciful Messiah who forgives if he goes and sins no more, unless you want to continue to condemn the forgiven?

There's a hymn that goes:

Amazing Grace, How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost, but now am found
T'was blind but now I see

Wretched is you when you don't know you are sinning. You are not wretched anymore once you stop your sinning, for to be saved you must recognise your sin and repent, as in consciously affirm to sin no more by resisting temptation once you are saved. It is then you sing this hymn in recognition that for the Grace of God you would have still been wretched. Still you might fail at resisting temptation and be saved again by more Grace. You will resist temptation harder and you will fail and be saved again by Grace, but still will you continue to resist harder least you fail - the evildevil, I assure you, rests not! You will work harder until you fail no more and then perhaps you will be righteous by Grace. But on the day you think you are righteous and stop working hard to resist temptation, you will fail! Then you will understand how very much harder you have to work harder to resist the temptation of assuming you are righteousness which itself is sin from which you need to be saved. And this will continue till the day you live eternally without sin. Then does one dwell in the Tabernacle of the Grace of the Lord that the Lord created for the righteous by the Lord's most Merciful Grace and yet, you are still not worthy of righteousness but for the Lord God's Grace!

We all need it, see, God's Grace. And God is most merciful and unselfish with God's Grace. But to all those who work, more will be given, and they will have an abundance of Grace; but from those who have done no work, even what Grace they have will be taken away and the worthless lazy slave will be thrown into the outer darkness [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A14-30&version=NRSV]where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’[/url]

I know you said I misquote scripture, but if you work hard you will get it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by budaatum: 11:07am On Mar 22, 2019
solite3:
@bold really? That means you have never sinned for once in your life.
No. It means Jesus washed my old sins away when I repented and stopped sinning anymore and now I work hard to stay clean by not sinning anymore. By the Grace of God of course.

I do still sin since I am not perfect. But everyday I diligently work to remove the sinning from me. I mean, why should I be sinning when the Lord God is my God? Is sin not the worship of notgod?
Christianity Etc › Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:54am On Mar 22, 2019
Got this from quora though:

The central issue with this is that there are several different understandings of what intersubjectivity actually is. Even inside of psychology there is disagreement as to what it quite is.

So lets start with philosophy.

We start with the subjective. The subjective is you and your experiences. It is you and your viewpoints. It is the experience of existence.

The next is the objective. The objective is that which is tangible. It is E=MC2, gravity, biology, chemistry and physics. No matter what you think it exists and is so. Think 2 + 2 = 4.

Interestingly there is not, however one subject. There are actually many individuals (around 7,000,000 Homo Sapiens).

Animals may very well have a subjective reality, i.e consciousnesses. Not insects and other less animals, but Elephants, Chimps and Whales clearly are aware of their own existence. It is almost certain that the same held true for the other hominids, such as Neanderthal. The intelligence gap between us and these creatures is present, but not truly significant.

Now humans have something that these creatures don’t have, language. Language in terms of raw communication is common across the animal world, but complex language is unique to humans. Its range and breadth is also unique to humans.

This language required changes to our imagination as animals and memory. The humans were therefore best at coming up with ideas and remembering them. These ideas were not too complex. Humans when in small numbers tend not to be much more creative than Chimps; in isolated populations such as some pacific islands and even Tasmania we slowly lost technology including the bow and arrow and stone tools!

But were were able to do something brand new; create an intersubjective reality. These are things that don’t exist but in our own minds. Animals lie; monkeys have been seen faking lion calls in order to scare other monkeys away from tasty bananas. Intersubjective realities are not always fake (though they can be grounded in untruths) . They are often grounded in physical reality to make them seem more real.

Let me give you an example.

Money. Money and its values only exist in the human mind. It is grounded in reality in the form of gold blocks and bits of paper (but not always; most money is now digital). It is not real. It’s not a lie. That bit of paper you really can trust. But one day money can dissolve; a few months back India got ride of several type of note. The reality was altered on the order of the government.

Countries are great examples of Intersubjectivity. The USSR was pretty fucking tangible. It was a country with borders and flags and seemed real enough. On the 25th of December 1991 it stopped existing; simply because a few people said it did.

Intersubjective reality is THE most powerful tool that humans have. It means that we can create tangible realities that are not real and yet are. The USSR did not exist. Neither does money, the USA, or communism. They are simply strange shared hallucinations. Yet they wield huge power. The USSR killed tens of millions of very real humans. Money defines the day to day reality for everyone on earth. The USA put a man on the moon. Communism defined half a century and for a while seemed poise to seize the globe.

That is intersubjectivity. Now go analyse something more complex like religion, or the self.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:46am On Mar 22, 2019
johnydon22:
LOL ok
Your error, in my opinion, was in equating an objectively existing Nigeria which no ones subjective thought affects, with the intersubjective value of money which depends on our collective subjective opinion.

I'm learning, see.
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by budaatum: 10:41am On Mar 22, 2019
asalimpo:
typical woman.
You are stupid!
Christianity Etc › Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:39am On Mar 22, 2019
Serious is buda's disease!
Christianity Etc › Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:39am On Mar 22, 2019
Seroous is buda's disease!
Christianity Etc › Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:38am On Mar 22, 2019
johnydon22:
Are you serious with this? Or just trolling? Because the explanation is right there on the same post you quoted. Tell me if you are being serious?
If you believe but don't go and officially change the name of the country where would planes taking off in foreign lands land when they say they are going to Nigeria? Or do they too need to share this your believing in the imaginary with you?

Believing the crap in your head has no effect on reality! What you all believe is irrelevant unless you act on that believe!
Christianity Etc › Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:23am On Mar 22, 2019
johnydon22:
Nigeria for example doesn't objectively exist, it exists because we believe it does.
Really? So I can believe Nigeria does not exist and Nigeria will stop existing just like that?

Methinks you imagine!
Christianity Etc › Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:18am On Mar 22, 2019
johnydon22:
Troll someone else
Nope thank you. I'm not tired. Besides, you never marked my homework! Whassup?
Christianity Etc › Re: I Get This Thread Now! by budaatum(op): 10:16am On Mar 22, 2019
solite3:
Do you become a lion by knowing what lions look like and practicing to behave like a lion?
Lion is not good enough to use in your example, solite3 it is insulting to lions! Try these:

Does one become a dog when one behaves like a dog?

Does one become a swine when one behaves like a swine?

When does one become a jackass?
Christianity Etc › Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:11am On Mar 22, 2019
johnydon22:
Men!!! This is tiring
You're tired shocked shocked

It's not easy thinking, is it. grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: American Relocating To Nigeria! by budaatum: 10:04am On Mar 22, 2019
avled:
Thank you for your vote of confidence. Please visit my website at www.damionbennett.com. It will tell you a lot more concerning my ministry. The truth is I LOVE NIGERIA!
I already checked it. I share that love. Nigeria isn't an easy place but I probably haven't got your smarts. I went frequently for years as part of my research and lasted two years in the end crippled. But my mission was books and not the Gospel of the Lord and I myself lacked the Holy Ghost.

When do you plan to go?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Jesusmirror Is The Only True Mirror, Every Other Mirror Na Counterfeit! by budaatum: 9:56am On Mar 22, 2019
bloodofthelamb:
The word of God God is fulfilled in us when we believe it and act on it.

If you are referring to jesusjr, then I am equally amazed about his attitude. His attitude is a put off.
Then, why have you not told him so blood!? Shall we just lazily await the Grace of the Merciful Lord God Almighty and do nothing but watch him fall into perdition? What if he also leads other's astray? Would it not be like we helped lead other's astray ourselves and the punishment he deserves is our punishment too?

We must pray, really hard and fast for him blood so God hears us and bless us all Gracefully! Say Amen.
Politics › Re: “saraki Is The Biggest Loser In 2019 Elections” – Buhari Media Organisation by budaatum: 5:22am On Mar 22, 2019
Nigerians We Hail Thee!
Politics › Re: “saraki Is The Biggest Loser In 2019 Elections” – Buhari Media Organisation by budaatum: 3:53am On Mar 22, 2019
Is it not true? Abeg let us rub it in his face that enemy of progress! I still remember how I cried when he stole the speaker's seat! Never again insha allah!
Christianity Etc › Re: Signs That God Did Not Predestine Anyone To Go To Hell Or Heaven by budaatum: 3:24am On Mar 22, 2019
bukkyemotions:
Let's start with this: if you want to fornicate, will you say you were predestined to fornicate & God knows you will fornicate? you made a choice to fornicate. God did not predestine you for such nonsense, you intentionally removed you cloths for defilement. You are not a robot!! So if you say "God knows everything" & has predestined everything including heaven and hell, then you are a robot. Then the armed robbers can say they were predestined to steal & kill. The guys & ladies that cheat can say they are predestined to cheat. So no one is to receive blame!!

Some say that God knows who will go to hell or heaven. Now, therefore this can make people reluctant, expecting to be in hell or heaven..
The issue here is, God gave us choices and life to live. Will you say that God predestined who you are today? Not really, your attitude, choices, opportunities used, actions, information and knowledge brought you to where you are today. If your parents are wealthy and you decide not to go to school, it is not a predestination, but a choice. That a law is passed that whoever does Yahoo plus will be arrested. Will you now say that God predestined those who saw the law against Yahoo plus and still went into Yahoo plus, No. They made a choice. God said if you sin and don't repent before you die, you will go to hell. Now that people sin, are they not conscious when sinning? it is a choice. So someone can't just be sinning consciously and say he is predestined to go to heaven or hell. we determine our destinations by our conscious acts.

People will die, but if someone commits suicide, he forced death into himself, you won't say he was predestined to forcefully kill himself. He had a choice to say Yes or No to suicide.

Finally, God gave you conscience and power to make choices, so that you can "predestine" your life, your going to heaven and your going to hell.
Don't mind them and their "predestined grace".
Education › Re: Please Guys I Need Your Help! by budaatum: 2:44am On Mar 22, 2019
Jesusjnr cc
Islam › Re: Christchurch Prayers Al Noor Mosque by budaatum(op): 2:26am On Mar 22, 2019
It was a very touching service.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Working Too Hard For Jesus? Paul Ellis by budaatum: 2:06am On Mar 22, 2019
jiggaz:
W
Jesus said, “Come to me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest” (Matt. 11:28). The Ephesians were weary and heavy-laden. They were a busy church in a busy city. They were running all sorts of programs, ministries, and activities. They met every day of the week and twice on Sunday, and they were worn out.

He simply says, “I’m aware of how hard you are working.” He’s building up to something, and it is this. “You have left your first love” (Rev 2:4).

Your first love is not your love for God; it is God’s love for you. He is the Source and the Supply of all agape love. To say the Ephesians had left their first love, is to recognize they were no longer abiding in the love of God. Like the prodigal son, they had walked away from their Father’s love.

What deeds did we do at first?

You enjoyed Jesus. When you first entered the kingdom you may have done nothing at all except recline at his feet. “Do that,” says the Lord. “Stop trying to give to me and receive from me. Follow Mary who sat rather than Martha who stressed.”



Sadly, this is not the recommendation you will hear from those who elevate works above grace. “Doing what you did at first means praying and studying the word and evangelizing with the enthusiasm you had when you first came to Jesus.” In other words, the hard-working Ephesians need to work even harder and so do you. “Through hard work we prove our love and maintain our good standing with God.” Beware this graceless message! The mindless pursuit of religious busyness—even good works done in the name of Jesus—will distract you from the love of God. You’ll end up with toiling in the kitchen instead of reclining with Jesus in the lounge.

The takeaway, the cure, the ticket to freedom

If you are worn out from doing the Lord’s work, you can probably relate to the Ephesians. They were a hard-working bunch of believers, but they were dying on the inside. They were busy building, but their labor was in vain.

Why do we push ourselves past breaking point? It can happen because we’ve forgotten how much God loves us. We think we have to prove ourselves or come up with the goods, but none of this pressure is from the Lord.

You were made to receive your Father’s love. Lose sight of your Father’s love for you and you will lose your way. You’ll fall from the secure place of grace into the realm of dead works. You’ll become restless, insecure, and empty on the inside. You’ll try to replace his love with lesser things.

If the Ephesians could leave the love of God, anyone can. But the good news is those who wander can come home again. If you have lost your first love, Jesus shows us the way back: Remember, repent (change your thinking), and do what you did at first. Go back to the place of your first love, when Jesus was your everything. Make every effort to enter his rest and let nothing move you.

https://escapetoreality.org/2019/02/21/are-you-working-too-hard-for-jesus/
So, work much harder at the right job!
Islam › Christchurch Prayers Al Noor Mosque by budaatum(op):
The nation stopped this afternoon to reflect and remember the victims of the Christchurch terror attack that claimed 50 lives a week ago.

At 1.30pm, among flowers of remembrance, the Muslim Call to Prayer went out, followed by two minutes of silence as thousands gathered at Hagley Park opposite the Al Noor Mosque in Deans Avenue in Christchurch.

The Prime Minister began the service and Al Noor Mosque Imam Gamal Fouda then delivered a powerful speech of thanks to New Zealand and message of peace.


https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/live-stream-nation-reflects-christchurch-terror-attacks?variant=tb_v_1
Christianity Etc › Re: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by budaatum:
LoJ:
I didn't say hide, I said expose it anyhow. And yes it is very possible to light up a lamp to hide it again. Or better put, it is possible to light up a lamp and direct it so that it only enlightens only a specific area or a dark room, while excluding the rest, although it could have easily illuminated the whole room if need be. People use such systems all the time in labs, in photography, etcand other domains.
I just doubt they light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. All you have to do is enter and see the light and be enlightened. In Proverbs its even climbed upon the rooftop calling out to passerbys, "look up please and have some" .

I'd call that very unhidden and exposed, at least. But if you insist, I concede.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Jesusmirror Is The Only True Mirror, Every Other Mirror Na Counterfeit! by budaatum: 11:45pm On Mar 21, 2019
bloodofthelamb:
Jesus made us know that there are two category of people in the world with that story he told.

Category 1: Those who seek to be justified by their deeds, though God is not against our good deeds but he is against we seeking to be justified by it. Our justification is of Him. Hallelujah!! I have a friend who thinks that he is entitled for divine protection because he tithes. He normally says, "God cannot afford to lose me because I am a tither."

Category 2: Those who seek justification through the loving kindness of God and his grace. This category's heart is fixed upon the mercy and goodness of God, though they live right, but they don't boast about it. They know that they have already been justified by the grace of God. They know that it is God who is working in them but to will and to do that which is pleasing to Him. They speak more about the grace and mercy of God and less of their works.

They know that grace is the Vine that bores the fruits (works). Thanks be to God that I belong to this blessed category being transformed by the unfailing grace of God.
Category 3: Those who don't do the work nor allow those who would to enter!

Category 4: Those who the Word has reached but in whom it withered and died.

There's many more categories but need I go on?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by budaatum: 11:36pm On Mar 21, 2019
Samrocker:
Please I don't need money from you,!!!!

I Have been nominated for the OOU campus Rookie of the year!!!
Please guys I really need to take this Glory!!!!

*Oou Mac awards voting link for the 2nd edition*

Open your browsers

*sips drink*

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Under the rookie of the year category!!!



https://ooumacawards..com/2019/03/voting-link.html?m=1
You got a long way to catch up!
Gonna have to work harder.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Jesusmirror Is The Only True Mirror, Every Other Mirror Na Counterfeit! by budaatum:
Please stop telling me about some woman. Tell me what it means to you, what it compels you to do, how the Word of God is fulfils.

Is the Word of God fulfilling in a person who goes about condemning everyone shouting I am the best all over the place calling everyone satan atheist unchristian foolish mumu and casting the first stones?

bloodofthelamb:
Let me ask you a question, if you promise me a thing and latter fulfill it. is the promise still standing? Jesus said he came not to abolish or set aside the law, but to fulfill it. He indeed fulfilled it when he ascended the cross.

According to the law anyone caught in adultery must be Stoned to death. But what did Jesus did when they brought the woman caught in adultery? Did he cast the first stone at her? No he didn't. Christ is the end of the law. He is the fulfilment of the law. All the stone that was suppose to land upon that woman caught in the act was redirected towards Jesus, the lamb of God at the cross.

Do you think after that incidence, the woman Jesus saved from execution will continue her lifestyle without change? Grace captures the heart and pulls away from sin.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by budaatum: 11:11pm On Mar 21, 2019
LoJ:
It simply means they valued their teaching not to expose it anyhow to the world.
I don't think so somehow. Unless they were lighting a lamp and hiding it. But in a book they wrote that's a bestseller and in which no one lights a lamp and hides it? They must be the crappiest hiders ever for hiding it uncovered for me to read or were making sure everyone got some of their very valuable teaching so were doing the opposite of hiding it so buda can easily find it.

Please reconsider. You must know books they hide stay hid.

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