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biolabee: i read your post well and i replied wella....Biola, Take it easy... You are going too fast. I still don't get the correlation between feminism, white men and train boys and girls properly. I don't know where anybody said white kids are better than blacks. Abeg, if you are tired, just say so. The you and your kind thing is getting annoying. Do you know me not to talk of my 'kind'? Biko, train your kids how you like. |
biolabee: This is true, all well and goodI am 100% certain you were not responding to my post you quoted. What has feminism got to do with training your boys and girls properly? Where did I or 'my ilk' state that we look up to western men/boys? Who even brought western men or boys into the discussion? The bolded is so hypocritical! Is it feminists that are training boys to be more sexually liberated or what the heck are you talking about? Abeg, read my post wella before you quote me. |
davidylan: Well before the fall God had decided to make Eve as a "help meet" for Adam who had already been placed as lord over all in the garden.What does Gen 1: 26 - 31 say? |
biolabee: Happy sundayI did not want to post but... I believe it is the parents of girls that should even be clamouring for the boys to be well trained because it affects them directly. Do you plan to follow your girls to school, church or around? Wouldn't you be happy to find out that a boy that fancies your daughter has been properly trained and taught the importance of waiting for sex? Does it make sense to you that the men your daughters will marry in future (let us assume they did abstain from sex) are currently been ill-trained and have unhealthy attitude towards sex and by extension the female gender because they are not affected by teenage pregnancy? The truth if that if the boys are ill-trained or have unhealthy attitude towards sex, it is actually the girls that pay for it. Whether they abstain or not, they will marry these boys except you are gearing them to be lesbians. Train your sons to be the kind of men you want your daughters to marry. |
benedicta0: pls o I mean that is not enough reason for the wife to disrespect her husband infact try and organise one marriage seminar and invite me since u know about marriage too muchNo problem. As for the seminars, you will be invited! ![]() |
Meddler: Pls I need to understand what this whole submission business I keep hearing means. Its on NL, in my office and social gatherings. What is it really?Hi Dear, God commanded Christian wives to submit to their husbands and husbands love their wives. Submission itself is not bad, it is the interpretation people have come to give it. A Christian husband is called to love his wife? what is this love? 1Cor13:1 - 8 defines it. It is always kind, patient, tolerant, polite, not boastful nor proud nor jealous, believes all things, has faith in the person, endures all things, always happy when the truth wins etc. You will agree with me that a husband who exhibits all these characteristics has esteemed his wife above himself i.e. he honours her above himself. The wife would reciprocate by honouring the husband (submission) above himself else he's like a fool because he is looking out for her and she is looking out for herself too. A wife would have no problems submitting to a husband who geninuely loves her. The husband makes the wife happy, why should she not make him happy too? A husband is called to lead his family because he's the source. Ideally, a man decides to get married and seeks the woman they can both build their lives together. The man should have a vision of how his home would be and look for a woman that has a similar vision. This can be loosely termed as 'compatibility'. A husband is also the head of his family how Jesus Christ is the Head of his Church. The right question should be 'how did Christ head His church?' He did by making sacrifices for her, loving her even when she was unlovable etc. Jesus also said that He did not come to be served but to serve and give His life as a ransom for many. A husband should serve his wife and not the other way round. Jesus showed us examples by washing the feet of his disciples, cooking for them etc. If you find a Christian man who truly loves you, you will understand this concepts. I actually opened this thread from this POV. 'A man's love makes a woman blossom and that woman takes care of the man to make him blossom too.' Bukatyne 2012 Cheers. |
davidylan: You seem to not understand the Adam and eve story. As far as i am concerned, a man who wishes to enjoy a good marriage should not marry a woman who does not understand the power behind a submissive praying wife.In fact, submission came up in the NT where wives were told to submit and husbands told to love. The creation story shows oneness and unity in purpose. After the creation, God talked about oneness and not submission. Submission or should I say subordination came after the fall. It was a consequence of their actions. Remember God said ...'because you ...., I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your desire shall be for your husband...' The OT subordination was NOT a blessing to the woman. |
[quote author=Sisi_Kill]If all girls became "well trained" who are the guys, whose relationship status change we are celebrating and oh so happy for, dating? If the girls who aren't well trained are the ones who date guys, why are we happy for the guys? If we have faith in our sons because we have talked to them about being well behaved why don't we have the same faith in our girls and allow them to date? I don't advocate locking up your kids and forbiding them from dating, Teen dating is a reality we would be silly to ignore but not ignoring it/accepting that reality does not mean we have to celebrate it either. In my opinion, if you can't open a thread for your teenage daughter dating....you shouldn't open one for your teen son. On a personal and funny note, Baba Oyo reminds me of my older brothers...I have 3 of them and 1 younger brother (whom I am 3 years older than....3 years oh! 3 Freaking years!!). The day some guy called our house to speak to me, you shoulda seen the expression on my oldest brother's face. He acted like he didn't hear right and when he finally handed me the phone, you could almost hear him going "What the whaaa?" in his head. I took the phone and dude would not leave, he stood their all attention like one of Queen Elizabeth's Royal's guards. I don't remember what my friend said because I was in a haste to get off the phone. As soon as I hung up, the questions started - Who is that? Why is he calling you? How did it get your number? He has guts oh! Calling you at home blah blah blah...all that righteous indignation from the same dude who was patted my younger brother (whom I am 3 years older than. 3 years oh! 3 freaking years) on the head after his first date. All four of them had this moment..."oh, their younger brother don growed up". Yet my own dating became such an issue because good girls don't date. So one day, I asked if good girls don't date...why are you dating bad girls? Why do you want to be associated with filth? How do you love someone like that?! Why doncha have any respect yourself? What did I get in return...ehm, ehm, ehm. Yeah that's what I thought https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/29.gif Anyhoo, while I understand Baba Oyo's excitement..."his little boy don growed up" ! I'd advice against labeling girls who do date because these are the girls whom your son/brother/nephew...ya know the Awon Big boiz you are happy for, are dating. I mean if those girls are easy, sluts, bad etc...why is getting them something to be proud of?!![/quote]This is classic! |
alutacontinua: Bukatyne, but you have to agree with me that a teenage girl getting pregnant and a teenage boy impregnating a girl are two different things, right?It's not even an issue of equality. If parents trained BOTH boys and girls to flee pre-martial sex, don't you think that teenage pregnancy and all other consequences would reduce? As the difference made girls shun pre-martial sex? God didn't plan different rules else the punishment for adultery/fornication would differ from male to female |
biolabee: Madam buka I no get pawa oooOga, I am not spinning anything. Since you don't mind hypocrisy, don't get annoyed when our leaders think it's their right to steal us blind. afteral, different rules right? Good morning. |
biolabee: Ok keep on blaming the boysWhich is? Where did I blame the boys? Did they train themselves? Only few children get to retrain themselves. |
coogar: rubbish, if the girls are well-trained, they wouldn't become preys for the boys. how can you be well-trained and still fall victim to the predators?So all the girls falling prey were not well trained? I laugh in Spanish! By the way, define what it means to be a prey! |
biolabee: Well it may be double standards but the fact is the consequnces are greater with girls than boysBiola, If boys are not discouraged from indiscriminate sex, they will keep sleeping with girls who have been well 'brought up' except if you want homosexuality to increase. Look at it this way: If A doesn't train his son properly, his son might look for a smart way to sweet talk your well trained daughter into doing something wrong and vice versa. |
jidegirl12: *looks down* notice who?Like I tell some posters who are young enough to be your kids, when you learn how to communicate properly in a civil manner expected on a social forum, then we can discuss. Apparently, your problem is not with the post you quoted in particular but with my views generally on NL. In case you don't know, we are different and therefore would have different outlook to issues and life generally. Like I said earlier, I don't do e-fights. Once again ma'am, learn civility and we might be able to discuss. Cheers. |
alutacontinua: Sweetie, we're all just getting real here. How many 17 year old ladies are out there today without a boyfriend? Some have even had like 5 sef...There's no point making it look like it's a crime, it's REALITY.Dear, I didn't see my comments as harsh. I just imagined how he would feel if it were his daughter. There is really he can do but to be excited? Increasing his pocket money? I share bettymafa's view on this. Apologies if I sounded harsh. Thanks. |
jidegirl12: Do you have to be this rude?Madam, That post didn't refer you If you have a problem with my post or any part of it, state it in a civil manner. In case you have not noticed, I don't do e-fights. |
bellong: Take it easy sis.... keep the fire withinMy dear, There is no fire o! Afteral, fola mi was born by parents, not so? If he wishes his daughters to have boyfriends by fola's age very well then. |
Witty07: You have just lied. Which submission was as a result of sin. I beg, please do not say that again. Before God created a woman he has created all and created Adam and gave him an assignment and an instruction as well as warning. Remember that God Has placed the authority of man over everything before he created woman. The creation of woman came when God saw that Adam was lonely and he never created Eve the way he created Adam but in a different way by taking the rib out of Adam. Even at the end of the creation, God did not name her, Adam did. Yes, male and female he created them, but equal in the eyes of God with different responsibilities God knew he created a system and the system must have a pattern. Read Numbers 30 you will know that Submission was not as a result of sin. And do not mock God by trying to say that submission in the bible have different interpretation from both testaments. Do you think God is human that he will be talking from both sides of his mouth. Whatever is said in the New testament was a light to the old testament and admonishments.Do you want to really compare the life women had in the OT and in the NT? Read Gen 1: 26 - 31. Going by what you said, Adam was probably to submit to the animals because God created them first. Did you note that Adam named Eve after the fall?? Does this even answer the question in the opening post? |
coogar: men everywhere!And Whyme22 represents all the men in Naija right? He really kept it to himself that's why he posted it on NL! |
Well Baba Oyo, Don't worry. When your daughter gets to Fola Mi's age, a 17yr old boy will start dating/sleeping with her. |
I hope those disgrace that called themselves women especially the one that opened her mouth that looks like drum that 'as long as he takes care of me' will NOT have female children so that this demonic cycle can be broken. |
coogar: men have always been selfless - they tend to keep the secret of their partner's infidelity than the women on the average.Men on NL right? ![]() |
coogar: and you know that, how?I hope men are also this selfless too |
I wonder what the posts would have been if it were Baba Oyo's daughter Runs out of thread! |
Xavier1976: Our God is a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrryy patient God. Women submission has been defined as a curseWhat point are you trying to make? The submission of women in the old Testament was a result of the sin of Adam and Eve ... The submission in the New Testament is another kettle of fish altogether. |
Witty07: I hate to hear people blaming tradition. Life is about the good and the bad. In those days we have families that without been coerced the husband knows his role and play likewise the wife and the union was so peaceful even when the husband loose it the wife keeps calm rather than shouting and before you knw it she wins. Inspite of this we still have those who abused it. Back then we have both bad husbands and wife, no exclusion. So all this blablah tradition is a ruse to me. There are many issues today becos everyone is astray, women claiming equality, men trying to ascertain control, women not been humble, men been proclamatory.And what is the default system? |
[quote author=tpia@]Are you a lesbian by any chance? Just asking.[/quote]Excuse me? |
benedicta0: There is nothing wrong in that is just that both the husband and wife are lacking manners how can you just pounce on the pot and you can see she is trying to serve you the food.Beside it is not a big deal for the wife to disrespect her husbandThe husband pounced on the pot of soup? seriously? It is not a big deal disrespecting one's hubby because of soup? soup? not infidelity? not abuse? not lying? soup? as in soup? Odikwa very very very serious! Infact, we need serious marriage seminars in every community. |
[quote author=frank3.16]Chapter 14 Chidi thought of Nkiru and her sister as the nurse tried to put some bandages on his shoulder and head. He was glad that everything had turned out good but hoped that the stress they had gone through would not affect both girls psychologically. Bassey walked up to him with Dr. Samuel by his side. Chidi and his friend had been taken straight to City Hospital from Priest house. Adanna and Nkiru were given special attention because of the bruises all over their bodies. Adanna had gotten hers from the Priest’s hits and the cuts from the sharp sticks in the bush. She also needed rest and she complained of head ache. Samuel had suggested they run a head scan for her to ascertain that she wasn’t having internal bleeding. “I am glad you are alright man, I can’t imagine the horror you guys must have gone through.” Bassey said to Chidi. “I am more concerned about Nkiru… she most have gone through hell when those men tried to molest her. I hope her heart is strong enough to avoid those dead bodies from coming up in her dreams this night.” Chidi said as he wore his shirt. “She is surprisingly strong,” Samuel said. He had just left Daniel and the two sisters in the room to see how Chidi was doing. A brief psych evaluation had shown that she was okay for now. “Where are they? I really need to see them right away.” Chidi said. “Alright, I will lead the way”, Samuel quipped. They got to the room and Chidi was glad to see a sweet smile light up Nkiru’s face as she saw him enter. She was sitting on her hospital bed. He walked to her bed and sat beside her and then he picked up her right hand that was close to him and held unto it. “I hope you are okay?” “I am very okay… and you?” she softly asked. “You know I am strong,” he said and looked towards Adanna’s bed was at the other end of the room. She was lying on it with Daniel by his side. Samuel and Bassey were standing by their side and staring from one bed to the other. “I am still amazed… so this Priest of a guy killed so much people, caused you guys so much pain and stressed himself beyond limit just to molest Adanna?” Bassey said unbelievably. “He is what the psychologists call ‘a chronic psychotic stalker’. His insecurities didn’t allow him to approach the girl next door whom he was in love with. Perhaps this was because of the internal conflict between his personality and his religious orientation. So he repressed all his feelings and by the time these repressed feeling decide to seek expression, he was already damaged and the repressed feelings came out negatively. He therefore became a ra.pist and murderer while he tried to justify his action by choosing a religious stance that best suited him.” The doctor explained. They had learnt more about ‘The Religion’ from Emeka and Biggy. Both were receiving treatment in a different ward and would be charged once they got better. The rest had lost their lives. They all listened as the doctor tried to explain Priest’s personality to them. They couldn’t understand how he could get followers with such unbelievable religious theory. They were given much attention by the doctors and by ten pm, they were discharged while the result of Adanna’s head scan will be revealed the next day. Chidi opted that they stay over in his house. On his way home, he bought lots of drinks and food for the six of them. They had police escorts all the way home. Later that night, Bassey ensured the policemen watching over them remained alert even though they no reason to feel threatened for now and left for his home. Samuel left with him too. Adanna retired into her room with the excuse that she felt tired and Daniel went in with her. “Did I tell you how beautiful you look even with all the stress?” She just smiled. “Are you really okay? How do you feel after stabbing him?” He asked. “I have never better,” she said. “Hurting Priest was the best thing that had happened to me in the past three days. He deserved more knife wounds from me.” “You are one hell of a tough lady you know,” he said. She smiled. “I am thinking of how you are going to get your life back after all these years of isolating yourself from the world.” “I already have some plans. I will revive my consulting business, Samuel had promised to give me some money, and with you by my side, I believe the sky will be my limit.” “I will always be there for you, I promise.” With that, he bent over and kissed her. Chidi was looking at Nkiru into her eyes as they stood facing each other in the sitting room. It was like a dream to him. “You have a beautiful home,” she said. “You have a beautiful face,” he replied with a happy smile on his face. “With all these bruises and swells? I hope you are not making fun of me.” “You will always look nice to me… I never knew you could come out strong after all you have gone through. I am sorry for allowing them take you away, sorry for not protecting you,” “Thank you for everything Chidi… and thank you for loving me.” She said, ignoring his apologies. That was just a cue for him to bend over and kiss her even as his hands reached for her back to caress them. THE END[/quote]Beautiful and Magnificente! Lol @ Chigozie smiling at you! Try and sell this novel to a producer, it would make an excellent film. |
adanny01: Reading all ur post (except 1) gave me big smiles and a feeling that all will be well.Your son needs to shed some weight so that his legs can support his body. |
Wislet: People are different, with different orientations and no one should be seen as odd because of it. Everyone on the planet can NEVER be the same. It is good to try to understand a character from whatever angle they may be coming from, and not act James bond 'all perfect' movie here. Some here criticizing her do worse.If the kitchen is the wife's zone, Where is the husband's zone? |
Shakslayer: Please, what is 'Abunna'? Is it a kind of soup too?see kwestion o! I am unmarried o! |
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! I'd advice against labeling girls who do date because these are the girls whom your son/brother/nephew...ya know the Awon Big boiz you are happy for, are dating. I mean if those girls are easy, sluts, bad etc...why is getting them something to be proud of?!![/quote]This is classic!
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