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Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:54pm On May 28, 2013
Toks2008:
A BIG YES.


Men get carried away with what they see but women don't. It takes a lot to get a woman in bed. Her heart must have been off from her hubby before such thing can ever happen.
Are you really a Christian?
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:53pm On May 28, 2013
ecolime: You sound like such a woman.
I have absolutely nothing to prove to you dear tongue

Because I don't support either husbands or wives cheating, I sound like an adulteress!

Adultery by either husband or wife is equally very terrible and God hates it. If the debate was about how bad adultery was, no qualms. But for people to twist the Bible and colour it with their own personal prejudice is what pisses me off.
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:48pm On May 28, 2013
alutacontinua: shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
I'm loving this topic.
My dear,

Read the Bible yourself and don't let any misogynist deceive you with their half baked theories. God describes a man cheating as carrying coals of fire in his laps; says that a man who sleeps with a woman is one with her spiritually; that a man who engages in adultery is going to his destruction.

As a matter of fact, the Bible dwelt more with adultery on the male side than female side.
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:44pm On May 28, 2013
Toks2008: I am a bible believing Holy spirit filled tongue blasting and GOD fearing believer. How else was i able to remain faithful to just one lady for 12 years till date if not by the spirit of GOD.

So i dont even want to argue this fact. If my wife cheats on me, its over. I will not divorce her but will torment her until she takes that walk by herself. Its not about forgiveness.
Hmm torment!

Bible believing Holy Spirit filled tongue blasting and GOD fearing believing tormenter! shocked
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:41pm On May 28, 2013
oyin50: madam pls can u shut up and stop degrading the sanctity of marraige...jeeez it is a bloody filthy shame for a married woman to cheat. Pls can all these lousy serial cheats just shut up and say what ur heart knows is simply wrong.
And you keep quiet!

And where did she support infidelity? I guess it is not a shame for a married men to cheat right?

And who are the serial cheats?

Once again, KEEP QUIET!
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:30pm On May 28, 2013
obyrich: Divorce was given as an acceptable alternative to stoning. If your spouse cheats on you and you decide to cheat back, both of you can either chose to remain in the unfaithful union or part ways. Christ did not approve stoning but he graciously approved divorce as a remedy to adultery.
I hate when people twist the Bible to suit themselves.

The Bible did not divorce as option to anything. The two punishments are in different testaments. Christ did not approve stoning but He approved divorce? You are a joker!

He was only stating the acceptable reason for divorce not approving it. There is the permissible will of God and there is the Perfect will of God.
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:27pm On May 28, 2013
Toks2008: Nothing happened to me,i was simply making my notion known. Nevertheless, where did you get your assertions from.

As far as im concerned i have divorced her even without going through the stress of filing for it and getting lawyer that will even make me spend more.

I dont want to go into explaining your comments to you cos i can see you are getting it all wrong. Which hell are you talking about? when the only reason for divorce is adultery. Abeg get your facts right.
Lucky you then. Goodluck.

You want to know the hell I am talking about? Are you are Christian?
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:25pm On May 28, 2013
livebullet: becos by nature , a man has more than 1 slot for a wife. God made it so. Each woman is made just 4 1 man.
I am sure you are NOT referring to the GOD of Genesis.

If I recall correctly, HE made 1 Adam and 1 EVE not 2, not 3.

GEN 1:31 ... He looked at everything He made..., everything! 1 Adam, 1 Eve and saw that it was VERY good. Don't spoil the work of God through you selfishness and indiscipline.
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:23pm On May 28, 2013
plaetton: [/b]
WTF?
Who?
Is he my townsman?
Garbage.

The bible told me that god, at least the biblical one, does not forgive any sin. Just ask the Israelites.

Obviously some unforgiven people are going to hell, not so?
So For whom else is hell for?
If you do not understand simple concepts and are unwilling to learn,

DO NOT QUOTE ME AGAIN
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:19pm On May 28, 2013
genesisjohn: it is the same Bible that allows someone to divorse an adultrous woman
And stone an adulterous man to death! grin
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:18pm On May 28, 2013
Toks2008: For about 12 years i have remained faithful to my wife simple because i'm a believer,i fear GOD and also respect her as well as love her so if catch her today sleeping with another man, do you expect me to still keep her as my wife? HELL NO! If as a man i restrained myself despite all these temptations moving around so why can't she do same?

Nevertheless, i will not go through teh stress of divorcing her but punish her more by getting married to another lady and i care less if the new lady is a confirmed akunakuna and leave the stress of walking away to her.
If you marry another wife, whoa re you punishing?

It's like a child saying 'my parents are stingy therefore I will steal'. Who will God punish? If you carry bitterness, how does it affect her? If you don't repent before God comes/ you die, who is the greatest loser? You will end up in hell and your wife will repent and go to heaven!

You better pray to God to heal you of bitterness and live your life to the fullest. What happened to you is NOT new! I have heard of women who toiled with their hubby for many years and then the man makes it and marries a second wife and chase the first! What should the first do? commit suicide? The funny thing is that if she doesn't forgive the husband, she is going to hell.

Don't let anybody drag you to hell or ruin your life with bitterness. At the end, it's a personal race between you and GOD. He will not listen that it was Iya Sikiru or Basirat or bukatyne that offended me
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:11pm On May 28, 2013
Toks2008: I advice you to rid yourself from this funny ideology.

A man naturally is polygamous except the one who chose to be decent in that aspect.

Ladies are expected to even remain virgins till night of the wedding so the fact that these days,things have changed does not give women the impetus to cheat on their spouse.


The physical,psychological and spiritual damage to the man's psyche will never make it easy for him to remain happy with the lady even if he forgives her especially if he caught her in the act. That picture will never ever go no matter how he tries.

On the other hand, divorcing her is no guarantee that you will get a better lady because the next lady might even be worse than the divorced wife.

My advice is that if your wife cheats on you, save yourself the stress of divorcing her if she is really sorry and repentant because some are never sorry for the shameful act.

But If you feel you really need to move on please do and get yourself another bitch but just don't go through the stress of divorce process cos she is not worth it. Let her take the walk by herself if she can't cope with you having another lady in your life. At least you saved her the shame of an adulteress divorcee
bukatyne: This is what gets to me.

Whatever opinions you have, leave God, the Bible and Christianity out of it if it doesn't tally with them.

Who told you that God doesn't forgive sins? What did Jesus Christ come to do? If he doesn't, will you still be alive?
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 5:08pm On May 28, 2013
plaetton: Big laugh.
Which adulterous woman? I do not recall ever reading about Jesus forgiving an adulterous woman. Kindly refresh my memory.
And by the way, was the woman his wife?
bukatyne: This is what gets to me.

Whatever opinions you have, leave God, the Bible and Christianity out of it if it doesn't tally with them.

Who told you that God doesn't forgive sins? What did Jesus Christ come to do? If he doesn't, will you still be alive?
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 4:59pm On May 28, 2013
plaetton: Who told you that god forgives your sin? shocked
Keep deluding yourself. tongue
And hell is whom then, the righteous?
This is what gets to me.

Whatever opinions you have, leave God, the Bible and Christianity out of it if it doesn't tally with them.

Who told you that God doesn't forgive sins? What did Jesus Christ come to do? If he doesn't, will you still be alive?
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 4:38pm On May 28, 2013
Paentera: Well, because in reality, fingers are not equal for men and women.
Who made the fingers unequal?

DEUTERONOMY 22 VS 22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall BOTH of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 4:32pm On May 28, 2013
thoexynne: Really??
.. This has nothing to do with "XTIANITY" but lets even debate the christian side of it. Even JESUS gives you the option to choose either to 4give or not to forgive..

JESUS said and i quote him ""anyone that divorce who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness..... Mt 5:32


Infidelity is an irreparable breach of trust, although we aren't perfect, but be very sure if she does it she's gonna do it again
It has everything to do with Christianity!

Yes, Jesus 'gave' us this option...

BUT remember He forgave the adulterous woman when everyone wanted to stone her.

The issue I have is that a lot of men are not forgiving because they are not Christians or do not believe in God; they would not forgive because of ego and culture. These same men that can't forgive a cheating wife will 99.9% of the same expect their wives to forgive them or have been forgiven by their wives in the past.

It is not really their fault, it's the women who feel that their lives wouldn't go on without the tag 'Mrs.'
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 2:32pm On May 27, 2013
plaetton: Remorseful?
Big laugh. Would you not be if you were caught red handed?
Are armed robbers not remorseful when they are caught?
C'mon man.
The problem with we Africans, perhaps especially Nigerians, is the we always put sentiments where they do not belong.
We always put the square peg in the round hole.
For a woman to commit adultery requires long serious forethought. Before a woman contemplates such actions, she has to mentally damn her husband and convince herself that her husband deserved the damnation and humiliation.
Secondly, by the time the husband had discovered, she would have been doing it for a very long time.
Thirdly, once a cheater, always a cheater.
Fourth, if you ever ever forgive a cheating wife, you are forever doomed.
You will drop to minus zero in her eyes.
You would have given her all the powers she only dreamed of. She will completely emasculate you and turn you into a vegetable of your former self.

Let god do the forgiving for that kind of stuff. You are not god. You are human.
Are you a Christian?

If yes, remember the Lord's prayer

... and forgive our trespasses as WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TREPASS AGAINST US...

If you don't forgive people who offend you, GOD WILL NOT forgive you.
Family › Re: Should A Husband Forgive An Adulterous Wife? by bukatyne(f): 2:30pm On May 27, 2013
plaetton: Don't mind these silly people pretentious people dishing out bad advice they never give to their own brothers.

What if the wife brought hiv/aids to her husband? Would these people be telling him to forgive?
They never seem never seem to answer the most important question of whether they would forgive if they were the victims.
Do you have an issue with couples (husbands and wives)forgiving one another when they cheat or husbands forgiving wives when they cheat?
Family › Re: I Must Marry This Year! From Desire To Desperation ! Please Learn From This by bukatyne(f): 2:34pm On May 26, 2013
The Op had some salient points.

I wonder while most people frown when a person especially a woman says she doesn't want to be desperate for marriage.

Women have been so bound to believe that they are only suitable for marriage. I wonder if the Gen 3 curse also affected that. One rarely see women chasing their God given purpose as they chase marriage. Marriage is very beautiful WITH the RIGHT person. There is a man destined to bring out the best in you and help you fulfill your purpose. Marry less and that woman becomes an eternal failure. Marriage is just a means to an end and not an end itself.

Marriage is also not compulsory. Some people want to dedicate their lives to their purpose and see marriage as a distraction. Why should we let our society dictate what we do and don't do as far as it's not a social vice? I don't want to marry, so? why can't I be? Why must I be discriminated against?

Perhaps if we let those who desire to get married and know what marriage is about marry and leave all others, we would not need all the '10 things to do before marriage' etc and all the crazy stories we hear about married couples would not surface.

Have a blessed sunday
Islam › Re: Why Are Muslim Women Mistreated So Much? by bukatyne(f): 9:48pm On May 25, 2013
Beloved1993: I am a Muslim woman, not mistreated but protected. I lived in the middle east for years, and its the most safest place I have ever lived. I have lived in Europe and Americas and I long to go back to the middle east. Its only in the middle east teenage girls can roam the malls at 2 am without any fear. I'm going to give u short replies to your points from my understanding.
1. Protection
2. The man is the head of the house, what if the guy doesn't let her practice her religion?
3. Protection (you most probably won't understand this point). And I used to cruise around with my cousins in our Escalade. I didn't have to do driving test cos I was a lady, got my license easily. Would most probably had failed the test then and the instructor knew that.
4. Protection. You hear of ladies going to western countries on vacation and getting harassed, raped or killed, I have never heard of such incidence in Saudi .
5. Have you seen the way the men dress in the middle east? Oh and I feel the safest when I am covered. And it is my choice to cover.
6. It is better to marry 4 wives than to live in sin with 4 girlfriends. Men are polygamous in nature. You guys have problems with men having 4 wives but you see no problem with the immorality of men with 4 girlfriends. And the Qur'an said 4 wives IF you can love and treat them equally, which many men can't do. Do you know how many Christians have many wives, uncountable. An aunt of mine became a Christian to marry a Christian just because she can't share husband and Muslim men marry many wives. Her husband married 2 wives after her, while no man in her Muslim family has more than 1 wife.

Now pls tell me, in our Nigeria, are women allowed to marry more than one husband? So what's ur point?

let me add never having to wait in line, being chauffeured around, I really don't like driving. Having doors opened for you wherever you are. Nobody whistling like dogs or leering at you. The utmost freedom and respect you get from everyone.

@poster, if you have never lived it, you don't know it. I enjoy my life.
women are maltreated round the world irrespective of religion, remember that.
I sure don't know who created the men to be polygamous. Not my God anyways!
Family › Re: About Married Women And Male Friends by bukatyne(f): 4:51pm On May 23, 2013
maclatunji: If you want a high quality man, open your eyes and mind and you just might find one. What happens most times, is that people do the wrong things and expect the best results. Like attracts like most times, low quality men attract low quality women.
Well, you got me there wink

Most people want a ready made project and ignore the unmade ones. Everybody is a rough diamond and need TLC to shine brightly to what people see and jealous/admire.

I tell some guys that wants to reap where they did not sow that it's my bobo's love that makes moi shine! wink kiss
Family › Re: About Married Women And Male Friends by bukatyne(f): 4:17pm On May 23, 2013
maclatunji: The wife should just be "the woman" the man will soften-up sooner rather than later most times. Like I said before, she can always walk-out if it all becomes "too much" for her.
What do you mean by 'the wife should be the woman'? The truth is we have many low quality husbands around. Do those husbands not know deep down that starving their wives of attention is wrong?
Romance › Re: Marriage Mistakes Women Make That Lead To Divorce. by bukatyne(f): 4:10pm On May 23, 2013
DailyNews: you just committed another great offence some 21st century women do commit in their marriages which often leads to divorce.

Trying to be equal to men and comparing.

The moment gender equality gets so much into your head as a woman, you are finished, and take it or leave it, you can never make a good wife. Most feminists always end up single mothers or divorcees.

Trying to ensure that whatever you do, he must do, can lead to arguments and breakup. As a woman, you must learn to tolerate and ignore certain things, knowing that he is a man and has some natural lapses.
I believe you are a Christian.

After reading/studying the Bible well, can you honestly tell me a verse/passage that says women are inferior to men?

Can you educate us on the natural lapses God created in the male gender? Bearing in mind that after creation, He looked at everything He has created and said it was good. Gen 1:31
Romance › Re: Marriage Mistakes Women Make That Lead To Divorce. by bukatyne(f): 4:06pm On May 23, 2013
@OP:

Are you honestly telling me that if a husband commits all these offences, his wife would divorce him?

Not supporting such behavior anyways
Family › Re: Man In Search Of Ghost Finds Girlfriend Sleeping With Son by bukatyne(f): 2:53pm On May 23, 2013
The man has found the 'GHOST' he was looking for shocked
Christianity Etc › Re: How I Became An Atheist And Later Reconverted.....enjoy by bukatyne(f): 2:50pm On May 23, 2013
Thank God for you. May your testimony be permanent cheesy
Family › Re: About Married Women And Male Friends by bukatyne(f): 2:03pm On May 23, 2013
maclatunji: Sexual dissatisfaction is a basis for divorce under Islam. The only thing I would ask her is: "Have you tried enough to help him get his groove going with you?" If she says yes and insists on going, there is nothing to hold against her.

I know people change. However, there is a need to be objective when evaluating a potential spouse.
It isn't in Christianity.

I don't even think it's about intimate satisfaction alone. When last has her husband spoken to her the way the other man speaks to her? When last has he flirted with her or gisted with her as his friend and not as a 'husband?'
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There is this couple that once stayed in our compound. Anytime the hubby was around, he would sit and gist with his wife about who did what in his office while she was cooking. He was doing a program then. If he took a day's break from work to school, he would find a way to sneak home even if for an hour. A husband should realize that he is not his wife's boss and stop behaving like one. [quote]
Family › Re: About Married Women And Male Friends by bukatyne(f): 1:54pm On May 23, 2013
Nashville: I understand your points but cheating and running to other men is not a solution. Cheating does not solve any marital problem so it is never an option. If you are married to someone, you should know the person well enough to know when to bring discussions up. The man in this case is not a monster, the woman is just enjoying her new found friendship.
Oga,

I am not supporting cheating or running around o!

I was just saying that your solution would work within a certain subset of married people.

I heard of a man that separated from his wife and went straight back to his parents house. Some men would have ran into the arms of Cleopatra.
Family › Re: About Married Women And Male Friends by bukatyne(f): 12:40pm On May 23, 2013
maclatunji: She is his wife, she should read and master his moods. She can leave if after making exceptional efforts in this regard and he does not yield. Do people just marry strangers these days or what? I know you cannot know someone in totality before marrying them but there has to be some qualities that you find attractive now or am I missing something?
You sound like you don't know most people change after marriage. Look at most families around you, do you think they started the way they are now? Agreed that some people actually show the traits but some have latent wickedness and evil in them. Some wives cannot talk when their hubby is 'talking'. Some have been so battered that they cannot even think of romance not to talk of initiating it.

She can leave? are you sure? I would like to read your post if a woman comes that she's quitting because her husband is not yielding after several attempts.

I hope the mood mastering goes both ways.
Romance › Re: A Thread for Single Ladies :) by bukatyne(f): 12:30pm On May 23, 2013
biolabee: You brought bible here

You agree there must be a leader yet you don't acceot the man should lead the home
Oga, where did I say a man should not lead his home?

Take a deep breathe and read all my posts in this debate. You can also ref the black feminism tread and come back to me
Family › Re: About Married Women And Male Friends by bukatyne(f): 11:58am On May 23, 2013
Nashville: You guys should be real for once. Two people are involved in a marriage and they should both take the blame if it fails - it is not always the man's fault.

I will first of all address the issue at hand. That women is cheating - simple. Any relationship you have with the opposite gender that you know your spouse would not approve of is cheating. You dont have to sleep together to start cheating. She is emotionally cheating on her husband.

And it is sooo easy for such a women to use her husband as an excuse. Cheating is cheating. By the time she is finished flirting with another man, she would find faults in everything her husband does so he will be the scapegoat.

Bottomline, men cheat and women cheat. And cheating is a choice. No one forces you to cheat and there is never a good reason to cheat. Just last week, my wife just booked a family holiday for easter saying we hadnt gone away for a while. I agreed and I refunded her the money because I realise we hadnt gone away at all this year and needed time to spend together. That is what a sensible woman should do and not resort to talking to other men!

No one is perfect, if your husband isnt doing enough of romantic stuff, why cant you bring it up? Anything wrong in a woman planning a family trip or even dinner? Cheating is a choice, never blame your spouse for it!
Hi,

while I agree with you with the bolded, it depends on the type of marriage they have.

A woman married to a husband that is the C - in - C or Jaja might not be able to initiate romance lest she is not dealt with.

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