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Family › Re: We Need Marriage Counselors In Nigeria Please. No More P And E by bukatyne(f): 12:50pm On Jun 11, 2013
Ayee Idris: I remember reading the story. Now if I was a marriage counsellor which I am not, I would deal with the couple seperately. I would first hold sessions with the man. Try and find out what is attracting him to the other woman. Is it the sex? Is it that she is very easy to confide in? Does she have certain attributes that his wife lacks? There must be some hold that binds them together and when the hold is discovered, then breaking it would be doable. Does he genuinely want to stay with his wife or is he holding on for the kids? That answer would determine what step to take, cos love can be rekindled, if the counselor understands the couple and puts them through the right series of test. As for the wife, the trust has been broken. Is the love still the same? Is it possible that she is hard to share things with? Does she make him constantly feel guilty for his past deed. Is she staying cos she wants to make it work or because she has to. Did she miss the signs? Was it an affair turned to love? Women tend to focus more on kids then the hubby. Maybe she neglected him emotionally. After getting to the very root, i will then have joint couple sessions, where I would have the couple genuinely speak their minds without repercussion. For a marriage to heal, both parties must make d effort. The husband needs to break off all contact for real and start romancing the wife like when they were dating. The lady needs to forget or act like she has forgotten the affair and act like a young couple in love. This is not fool proof and I don't even know d first course for marriage counselling classes. Na just sense I dey use answer.
This one don pass counseling na.

However look at it this way: if it was the wife that was the wrong party and you tried this counseling, do you think the hubby would listen to you?

There is nothing like getting it right before marriage.

See now, one mgbeke girl did traditional wedding without knowing the hubby's age. She is now asking NL what to do. What should we do? force him to talk? What will she do if he don't tell him age? Divorce him? There is really nothing she can do or we can advice other than P and E or I and E.

It's well.
Family › Re: We Need Marriage Counselors In Nigeria Please. No More P And E by bukatyne(f): 12:09pm On Jun 11, 2013
biolabee: go to the thread and copy from the address bar
Here the title is https://www.nairaland.com/1318779/husband-love-another-woman
Thanks
Family › Re: We Need Marriage Counselors In Nigeria Please. No More P And E by bukatyne(f): 11:46am On Jun 11, 2013
biolabee: You put the link in the url hypertext
See below


i replaced 'l' with 'd'.
ok, thanks.

How did you get the link? I just copied and pasted
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Think That The Comforter Jesus Christ Promised Is Muhammad? by bukatyne(op): 11:35am On Jun 11, 2013
bukatyne: i do. spiritually, God is literally my Heavenly Father how my biological father is my earthly father. there is d physical and the spiritual.
bukatyne: i do. spiritually, God is literally my Heavenly Father how my biological father is my earthly father. there is d physical and the spiritual.
LagosShia: I think that contradictory.if God is your "heavenly father" then that is and must be figurative.if your dad,the husband of your mom is accepted by you to be your biological father,then that is literal.you cannot have two fathers literally or else you'd be addressed with the offensive "B" word.so let's mind our utterances and the implications.
Family › Re: ....and "OYO" Got A Call From Fola's Mum!!! by bukatyne(f): 11:34am On Jun 11, 2013
[quote author=kind.way]Baba Oyo.
Has it ever occur to you that OYO, FOLA and Fola's mum might be reading this pasots. I bet even if they are not reading it now somebody will show them this posts in the nearest future.

It might turn to be a good idea to keep the real names of the people involved off the screen.[/quote]Hi,

I saw the stuff, what's up?
Family › Re: We Need Marriage Counselors In Nigeria Please. No More P And E by bukatyne(f): 11:32am On Jun 11, 2013
biolabee: I think you mean My Hubby Is In Love With Another woman

@AyeeIdris.. what do you think
I do, thanks.

How did you do that?
Family › Re: We Need Marriage Counselors In Nigeria Please. No More P And E by bukatyne(f): 11:19am On Jun 11, 2013
At Op,

Let's use the below as a case study,

[url] My Husband Is In Love With Another Woman.[/url]

what advice would a counselor give?
Family › Re: ....and "OYO" Got A Call From Fola's Mum!!! by bukatyne(f): 11:15am On Jun 11, 2013
causewahala: Baba oyo reality series! cheesy
Longest time!
Family › Re: Why Don't Christians Apply The Bible To Their Lives Especially In Marriages? by bukatyne(op): 10:53am On Jun 11, 2013
Meddler: Now that makes sense. I truly believe in oneness. I'm never going to completely agree with my husband and vice-versa but I do believe we have that responsibility of working together to reach a consensus. I've noticed that Nigerian men (not all) tend to equate submission to "slavery". Now before u start screaming bloody murder let me explain what i mean by "slavery". The fact that you both leave under the same roof and one spouse is left to handle everything in a house while the other one wakes up and does nothing to assist. For example, both husband and wife are employed and work equal amount of hours but only the wife is relegated to take care of all the house chores, cooking, getting the kids ready to work etc. Now I'm not saying the woman should start slacking because she's working but would be so hard for the guy to chip in too. Is that asking for too much?
Dear,

there are a lot of men with these belief system. It will be foolproof to marry a man who doesn't do any of these things and expect him to change in marriage.

It's well
Family › Re: ... by bukatyne(f): 10:48am On Jun 11, 2013
cursor system: You have done a mistake by searching your husband phone. The result is always distraction, mind unrest and lack of commitment. Therefore, always try to be focused on how you can make your wedding to be successful.
I will not advise you to give your husband a space by doing so, you are already a failure in your marriage. What do you know the other man you want to go to will do. All men are the same. The rule of the game is ALWAYS IGNORE WHAT CAN CAUSE MARRIAGE FAILURE.
This your post is a shame to men.

NOT ALL MEN ARE MINDLESS IDIOTS THAT CANNOT EXCERISE SELF CONTROL!

Stop giving idiotic advices abeg.
Family › Re: ....and "OYO" Got A Call From Fola's Mum!!! by bukatyne(f): 10:46am On Jun 11, 2013
[quote author=Sisi_Kill]I agree with you both and want to reiterate the point (because it bears repeating a million times over) that this can only happen because Fola's mom (Parents) is more than likely not "The Hide yo daughter in the attic but send your son into the world with a Be Fruit and Multiply badge kinda parent. If she were, her daughter would be taking the under G route.

Good for her, I say!!!!

Now this is getting interesting!!!!

Can't wait for updates!! cheesy cheesy[/quote]
ileobatojo: Nothing strange about it at all. It's the ideal thing approach when one's child starts dating. Same way you want to get to know their friends, you also want to get to know their boyfriends/girlfriends. This is a great model for what to do in the 'sad' event of a 17yr old daughter that starts dating.
LOl!

@Baba Oyo, give us updates o
Family › Re: We Need Marriage Counselors In Nigeria Please. No More P And E by bukatyne(f): 9:24am On Jun 11, 2013
MMotimo: Excellent post! So many sentences deserve to be bolded.

A good marriage starts from courtship. It will not prevent every troubled union but would significantly reduce the number of troubled ones that exist
Good morning,

That's if they know what to look for in courtship. Have you not seen women whose fiancés beat or cheat on them and they are looking for sexy underwears/ good food to 'win' him back or warn the 'husband - to - be snatcher'?
Family › Re: We Need Marriage Counselors In Nigeria Please. No More P And E by bukatyne(f): 9:21am On Jun 11, 2013
Nashville: In my opinion the most important part of marriage counseling should be done before marriage. Most people see marriage as a destination and not as the beginning of a journey. I have read the responses so far and some seem to suggest that the man is usually the cause of marriage troubles. Unfortunately you are not being truthful. Some of you have suggested lots of Nigerian women endure bad marriages and they are forced to stay in it. The very truth is that if most of those women were to be truthful they will also blame themselves. I will give some free marriage counseling. You first of all need to understand that marriage is not luck neither is it chance. Several people have good marriages and those that have bad marriages should try to learn a few things. The most important part of marriage counseling is marrying the right person and I will give our ladies some advice.
Nigerian girls need to know that you should not marry a man just because he has money. I understand the current economic hardships but please our ladies should understand that money is not happiness.
Nigerian girls need to understand that you cannot trap a man with a pregnancy. Even if he is forced to marry you, he may never love you.
Nigerian girls need to stop putting pressure on themselves to get married. Some will give a deadline of 30, some 35 and at that age they are ready to marry just anybody.
Nigerian girls need to know that a guy cheating or beating you before marriage will not change after marriage. A bad relationship should never end in marriage. If he is abusive or adulterous, just run away.
Nigerian girls should give themselves some self worth. People will treat you the way you treat yourself.
Nigerian girls need to know that there are good and bad men out there. It is their own responsibility to decipher which is good and bad and hopefully marry a good guy. Not all men are the same, there are plenty of good husband materials out there. If a girl ends up marrying an alcoholic, adulterous and abusive man, she definitely has herself to blame. It is not luck!

That is where marriage counseling starts. Its starts from upbringing. Don't blame religion or pastors. Each individual is responsible for their own actions or inactions. We also need to develop laws that protect the institution called marriage and also each individual in the marriage.
Your post is excellent

I guess we are addressing the husband's part because that's what the poster focused on and in reality, it's mostly wives who get the P and E advice.

Like I said in my earlier post, the upbringing matters!
Most ladies have been trained to endure. We hear daily that men are bad and it does not matter who you marry. A girl comes to NL that her BF/fiancée is cheating and most posters say 'stay, afterall men are scarce, most men cheat!'. What would a woman who watched her mother endure her marriage learn? That's why I laugh when wives stay in dead marriages because of their 'children'. Someone once said that girls tend to marry husbands like their fathers.

Most women are also taught that a man's love can be bought with sexy underwears, good food, golden moments in bed etc. I doubt there is much the counselors can do AFTER the marriage. One thing I have learnt is that when a man loves a woman, he is extremely easy to please expect if the woman herself doesn't love him.

How I wish all of us ladies would print out your points and learn them all by heart.
Family › Re: ... by bukatyne(f): 8:47pm On Jun 10, 2013
toshmann: Lol grin
Somebody somewhere is making money. But I give it to Nigeria, marriage works better in Nigeria than here. My dear marriage here na nonsense.
If you agree that suffering and smiling is marriage, then it's working. Reading the advices here should give you an idea of how it works.

There are still some marriages though.

Most couples are just housemates.
Family › Re: ... by bukatyne(f): 7:28pm On Jun 10, 2013
toshmann: And so she should remain unhappy for the rest of her miserable life? undecided
This is the 21st century for crying out loud. I'm a man, if I don't like a girl, nothing she does can change that. I may like her actions, wish her the best, but if I don't have good emotional connection with her nothing can change that. If she fights to keep me, it's a lost battle I'll even be more scared she may get frustrated and poison me so no one will have me I she doesn't have me



What about her happiness?
What about her dignity?
What about her emotional and sensual needs?
What about HER?
Abi no be God create am?
You need this Nigerian bible seriously!

The book of marriage will answer in details all the questions you have. It will also clear all doubts and interestingly it has the life application pages where you will see the kind of food, underwear and outing to do when been cheated upon, abused, lied to etc.
Family › Re: ... by bukatyne(f): 7:26pm On Jun 10, 2013
toshmann: And so she should remain unhappy for the rest of her miserable life? undecided
This is the 21st century for crying out loud. I'm a man, if I don't like a girl, nothing she does can change that. I may like her actions, wish her the best, but if I don't have good emotional connection with her nothing can change that. If she fights to keep me, it's a lost battle I'll even be more scared she may get frustrated and poison me so no one will have me I she doesn't have me



What about her happiness?
What about her dignity?
What about her emotional and sensual needs?
What about HER?
Abi no be God create am?
Double post
Family › Re: ... by bukatyne(f): 7:20pm On Jun 10, 2013
toshmann: Bible get nigeria edition ? shocked
Where do you think most Nigerians get their ideas about marriage from?
Family › Re: ... by bukatyne(f): 6:17pm On Jun 10, 2013
toshmann: Marriage is NOT by force. If she fights for him when he doesn't care about her what does it make of her?

She's human for crissake, have some esteem and more importantly if you like fight like Hercules, if he don't want you, he won't give a damn and then you look like some wretched desperado that no one wants.
You obviously don't read the Nigerian bible! angry

#grab ya copy now!
Family › Re: How Do I Get Bill Gate To Marry My Sister? by bukatyne(f): 5:32pm On Jun 10, 2013
Bill Gate or Bill Gates?

As I don't know Bill Gate, how can I help? tongue undecided
Family › Re: Facebook Love Tears Marriage Apart (very Touching) by bukatyne(f): 3:48pm On Jun 10, 2013
jennykadry: I still don't understand why people think, its okay being the abused or the abusee.......if people don't say no to this, it's just going to get worse.

May devil shait on the bald head of anybody that will try this nonsense on my children.... I will send back to their father the devil.
You know Nigerians and a woman must stay married attitude like this is what she came to earth to achieve. It is okay if a husband initiates divorce but the woman must endure.

'It is better for a woman to stay in an unhappy abusive marriage than be single' #Nigerian proverb
Family › Re: Woman's Online Boyfriend Turns-Out To Be Ex-husband by bukatyne(f): 3:03pm On Jun 10, 2013
Jonwesley: culled from MSN News!
Don’t you hate it when you meet the man of your dreams, only to realize he’s your crazy, stalker ex-husband?

An unidentified Minnesota woman met a nice man through an online dating site, and the two eventually established a relationship. The couple began communicating extensively, and she felt comfortable sharing intimate details about her personal life.

His name was Aaron Carpenter, and the woman opened up to him about her issues with her ex-husband. She and her ex had an ugly split in 2011 and were involved in an ongoing custody battle, she confided to Carpenter.

Turns out, Aaron Carpenter was really Brian Matthew Cornelius, the woman’s ex. Yep, Cornelius catfished his ex-wife, creating a false online identity. He now faces stalking charges and is set to appear in court next month
This is really crazy.

Now that both of them know what they want, they can start afresh depending on what caused the divorce in the first place..

As for the stalking charges, was he stalking to harm her or to start afresh?
Family › Re: We Need Marriage Counselors In Nigeria Please. No More P And E by bukatyne(f): 2:56pm On Jun 10, 2013
Hi Ayee Idris,

Marriage counseling is important but I believe it all boils down to the couple themselves: What values do they have? Are they willing to make it work?

Most people who give the pray and endure advise are also functioning in the position of counselors. In our society where there is nothing wrong in married man cheating, what advice would a counselor (who probably believe the same thing) give? Pray, cook, look sexy etc... and ENDURE! or 'ignore him, pick up a hobby, turn to your kids... and ENDURE!' If a counselor starts saying 'your hubby/wifey is cheating, you can divorce' he/she will be seen as 'been corrupted by western influences'

The pray and endure, suffering and smiling is part and parcel of our culture. Does a married man not know that cheating on his wife is wrong? If he doesn't why would he send his wife packing when she does same? What if the counselors are available and the husband refuses to see them? What would she do? drag him or force him?

It all starts from we the parents... Let us train our kids the way they should go(in all areas. Most people exhibit the training they have had in their marriages. If people (especially men) were not trained to be accountable and believe anything goes, what will the counselors do? If a husband maltreats or cheat on his wife and they go to the counselor's place, what else will the counselor advice other than pray and endure or ignore and endure especially when the woman is not ready to leave the marriage and the husband thinks it's ok to cheat?

It's well.
Family › Re: Why Don't Christians Apply The Bible To Their Lives Especially In Marriages? by bukatyne(op): 2:21pm On Jun 10, 2013
Witty07: Please, the Bible is not a piece of literature. There is a link between everything, you don't qoute a part without reference to others. what God said in Nbrs 30:1-16 is it a curse. Why are men not shouting up and down that they are cursed abi. please leave this curse of a thing. God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow till world never end. He does not change. The whole structure has been built in the old testament and the coming of Jesus Christ was to redeem us and shed light on how to live right with God according to the already created laws in order for everyone of us to make heaven. Now let me reference you to the relationship between parents and children. In the OT. The holy book says in Matthew 15: 17 - 19. that no single i or the dot will by no means pass away. Please it is written in that with all thy getting get understanding Matt 4:7
Ok
Family › Re: Why Do Ladies Change Their Phone Number After Marriage by bukatyne(f): 2:18pm On Jun 10, 2013
yellowpawpaw: Yes quite a good number of ladies do that for security purpose.ex boyfriends and toasters might still not get it that u r married so to be on d safe side u gat to switch line.
There may be ur friends(general) u hv to ditch cos it might not be healthy for u communicatin with them.to some its a new life,old things hv passed away.
Although one can bar d numbers but to be on d safe side and dependin on ur type of husband,u don't want to take chances
Shouldn't the hubby know all potential stalkers aka EXs?

why should a lady have friends that will not benefit have either single or married?

I believe it's mostly ladies that lived wayward lives or left a long string of bitter ex that should be concerned about people who have their pre-martial numbers.

A lot of ladies have married around me and I have neither heard the concept of changing numbers
Family › Re: ... by bukatyne(f): 11:14am On Jun 10, 2013
Valeree: So sad dear, I think I can relate with ur pain. my boyfriend of 2years is currently doing thesame to me now for d past 3 months, with a girl that is seriously engaged to be married, once I found some messages were the girls fiancee was verbally abusing and threatening my boyfriend and my boyfriend was also threatening him back can u imagine, I felt so shattered, and pained and I know how it really hurts watching someone u love gradually slipping away.
I have talked with him and he said he wil stop but still keeping in touch with her, cos he wil be up all nite chatting, always clutching his fone even in d toilet and gets angry over every little thin.
I'm learning to give him space and hope and pray that all will be well soon.
Are you waiting until you get married so you can start praying and fasting abi?
Family › Re: My Son Just Got A Girlfriend....Happy But Scared!!! by bukatyne(f): 4:52pm On Jun 09, 2013
biolabee: good to know we are all on the same page..

Adolescents will always want to explore each others bodies.., that is the sad truth

Game of Thrones is the bomb,..i am on episode 5 here on a rainy Sunday afternoon

Adios.. nice jaw jawing once again
We were never on the same 'page'
Crime › Re: Housewife Bathes Her Husband Mistress With Acid by bukatyne(f): 4:50pm On Jun 09, 2013
I wonder when desperate housewives would learn that there is nothing like husband snatching . If the man has respect for his wife, marriage and vows, he would not cheat or allow himself to be snatched like one senseless handbag. if she did not like the situation, she should have called the husband to order or accepted her fate.

I also wonder why men don't go about pouring acid on 'wife snatchers'!

I hope she cools her bottom wella in prison.
Family › Re: My Son Just Got A Girlfriend....Happy But Scared!!! by bukatyne(f): 4:44pm On Jun 09, 2013
bellong: The point Buka and Ile have been making is "train up a child in the way HE/SHE SHOULD go, when he is old, he will not depart from it". The onus lies on every parent to teach their children either male/female moral values and encourage them to hold on to such in all their dealings including dating.

However, the point we need to understand is that not every dating/relationship is about sex. Hence, the encouragement given to Baba Oyo to get closer to his boy with a view to defining his expectation from a relationship which should not be sex.
God Bless you!
Family › Re: My Son Just Got A Girlfriend....Happy But Scared!!! by bukatyne(f): 4:43pm On Jun 09, 2013
[quote author=Sisi_Kill]Brilliant!!!![/quote]smiley
Family › Re: My Son Just Got A Girlfriend....Happy But Scared!!! by bukatyne(f): 3:44pm On Jun 09, 2013
biolabee: buka.. tired?...au contraire.. im having fun streaming my Game of Thrones..are u a fan
I told u all are equal but the consequences of immorality are more on females... why dont u want to accept that
I have not watched it yet

You do not understand my point: Train both boys and girls properly and the consequences will reduce. Shikena! Nobody is talking of equality or inequality here

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