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Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 2:56pm On Jun 08, 2012
[quote author=emöfine2]cool



Concerning our “god-given” roles?

I don’t go to church but when I used to attend such was a highlighted theme and the disparity is pretty visible in the bible. However if we are to regard the book we have to consider the bible in relation to its context at the time; studying the dynamics of the society it was written in. Religion of course is a product of culture and culture is indeed a factor that has affected/determined social policies.[/quote]it's always good to read d Bible for one's self cos some preachers tend to interprete according to their understanding/beliefs. d OT is different from the NT. The OT basically relates to us the life n culture of d jews and there re some things i stil don't understand. the rules most of the time re reactionary i.e. punishment for deeds committed n some things were really for only d isrealites. however, the NT is about d new covenant sealed by d blood of Jesus and applies to both jews n saved gentiles. infact, the NT really doesn't have a jew/non-jew classification. everyone is one in Christ Gal 3:28. u really need to study d way Jesus related to women during His earthly ministry. He never discriminated against them and saw them as equals n gave them equal privileges. in d beginning, God created us equal only wit diff roles but when man sinned, things changed. this change was not caused by God Himself but was a consequence of d fall along wit death, sickness, wickedness etc that's y when Christ came, He restored everything back to their original position. it's well. sorry for d epistle
Family › Re: Which Do I Choose; Marriage Or Job? by bukatyne(f): 2:29pm On Jun 08, 2012
991: so women should stop getting married because millions(according to you) are miserable in marriage? i don't know what you might have experienced/been taught,etc about marriage, the FACT remains that marriage is on top of career. hate it if you will but its the truth.
dear, read ALL my posts well! i never advocated that women should not marry. almost every1 has a negative view of marriage esp in our society but i thank God that my orientation has changed through a lot of things. to u, marriage is higher than a career; to others it depends on wat they cherish more. i say again n again that marriage is not an end in itself, it is not d height of achievement for a woman. it is a means to an end. marriage is for companionship, to checkmate adultery n for children. everyone has been assigned a purpose on this earth n marriage(companionship) makes it easier. there is someone to pull u up when u fall, shares ur hurt n pains wit u, to keep u warm etc so i don't see d reason y pple esp women should sacrifice their ambitions, dreams n purpose b'cos of d sacred title of 'mrs'. thanks!
Family › Re: Men,would You Allow Your Wives Have Their Own Capital Investments? by bukatyne(f): 2:01pm On Jun 08, 2012
binger: Ahh the woman got it wrong...your husband is your other half for Christ's sake,why should you do something behind his back and tell him few months later.i would feel like a fool if i were the one nevertheless,i hate guys who beat up there women.He should have forgiven her
hello dude, ow's ur day goin? did u read d story? d wife is reacting to wat her husband did. take care
Family › Re: Which Do I Choose; Marriage Or Job? by bukatyne(f): 8:18pm On Jun 07, 2012
991: my dear, a job will earn you whatever until you are sacked ok? but marriage makes you have and build your own family with your husband, and the joy/happiness/benefit/reward/etc is for a life time. ok? career and family are uncomparable!! jeeezzzz!!!
and is marriage d ultimate for women? wat of millions of women miserable in their marriages?
Family › Re: Which Do I Choose; Marriage Or Job? by bukatyne(f): 8:03pm On Jun 07, 2012
maclatunji: She will look for a new one. OP, is not telling us the whole story. I suspect that she knows/feels that her Fiance is not capable of meeting most of her financial wants (not needs). Hence, the reluctance to drop the job. Let us remember that Dakore Egbuson left acting and the limelight when she married a billionaire's son. Years before Genevive, Omotola et al dreamed of becoming superstars, a certain Ego Boyo would have been ahead of them but she married and sacrificed the acting career because her husband was "endowed' enough to make it happen.

My opinion.
hello dear, longest time! i agree wit ur post but there is a difference btw 'i want a job so that i ll be financially independent' and 'i need this job so that i can build a career in so and so'. for d first group, they work for d money while d second group work b'cos it's their passion. they want to affect lives thru a certain profession. i know a man who b'cos he wanted to be a committed teacher decided not to marry! there re some men n women like that so tellin such to forfeit job/career for marriage or any other thing is odd! take care!
Family › Re: Which Do I Choose; Marriage Or Job? by bukatyne(f): 7:43pm On Jun 07, 2012
taryour: my dear we av diffrent pespectives and mentality to how we wana leave our lives, u av urs and i av mine. Am living mine as it siuts me and i av never ad a reason to regret it,so if u dont like my way dosnt change anything about me or u so leave it at that....
ow re u? i'm not against u having ur views; afteral, we al can't think alike. i'm only tryin to point out that not being a career woman doesn't stop u from receiving 'insults' from men and ur husband doesn't have a 'right' to insult u. anyway, each man to his/her own. take care
Christianity Etc › Re: Churches That Can Lead You To Hell Fire by bukatyne(f): 11:52am On Jun 07, 2012
Shakdut: Oh! Na tru o. How many miracle self performd by jesu,where here in nigeria,na everyday,dey ar perform miracle even jesus nt fit get power reach dem
dear, ow re u? Jesus Christ did a lot of miracles and promised us that we ll do greater things Jn 14:24
Christianity Etc › Re: Churches That Can Lead You To Hell Fire by bukatyne(f): 11:49am On Jun 07, 2012
lastpage: In 2012?
1.) Jesus Christ is Jesus Christ....SON of God. Period.
2.) God is God, Jehovah is His name, He is the Spiritual FATHER of Jesus Christ. (Joseph the Carpenter was his earthly father)
3.) Holy Spirit is Holy Spirit, "the Spiritual Power" with which God accomplishes things.

[size=14pt]That they "work together or are in complete Harmony is TRUE " ....but does not make them "coalesce or erase their individuality"![/size]

Anyone who calls him/herself a Christian and cannot understand this three simple sentences, needs a healing! grin grin
Stop preaching bulshyte pleaze!

Lastpage!
goodmorn, ow re u? if u don't believe in d trinity, well that's u. 2012 has nothing to do wit it, 'Jesus Christ The Same Yesterday, Today And Forever' Heb 13:8. Jesus Christ said 'I and My Father are one' in the NT. Read Phil 2:5-11. for trinity, read 1Jn 5:17. God Bless!
Family › Re: Which Do I Choose; Marriage Or Job? by bukatyne(f): 10:05pm On Jun 06, 2012
taryour: would u also quit ur job and relocate to lagos cause her job is in lagos and u become joblesshuhhuh.


@op,if u truely love dis man and u are sure of his love,then u would quit dat job and get another in abuja. U only searched for job for 7months after service and u are complaining so much, so wot should men not even women dat av searched for job for more than 4yrs and above do? As a woman i realy dont believe in women pursuing career,cos dats were u get all sorts of insults from men(i personally cant stand a man dats not my hubby insult me witout me dishing him d trash he deserves),i prefer a woman in bizness or her using her handiwork or talents to make her money, if u quit dat job n relocate to abuja,while searching for anoda job u could learn diffrent skills and make more mony out of it. My dear sit down n av a rethink. At d end u rule ur world...
so d man can't sacrifice too? u don't believe a woman should have a career b'cos of insults? can't she be insulted in her own biz or wateva? wat if her neighbor insults her? so a hussy has d 'unreserved right' to insult his wife? it is well!
Family › Re: Which Do I Choose; Marriage Or Job? by bukatyne(f): 10:04pm On Jun 06, 2012
taryour: would u also quit ur job and relocate to lagos cause her job is in lagos and u become joblesshuhhuh.


@op,if u truely love dis man and u are sure of his love,then u would quit dat job and get another in abuja. U only searched for job for 7months after service and u are complaining so much, so wot should men not even women dat av searched for job for more than 4yrs and above do? As a woman i realy dont believe in women pursuing career,cos dats were u get all sorts of insults from men(i personally cant stand a man dats not my hubby insult me witout me dishing him d trash he deserves),i prefer a woman in bizness or her using her handiwork or talents to make her money, if u quit dat job n relocate to abuja,while searching for anoda job u could learn diffrent skills and make more mony out of it. My dear sit down n av a rethink. At d end u rule ur world...
so d man can't sacrifice too? u don't believe a woman should have a career b'cos of insults? can't she be insulted in her own biz or wateva? wat if her neighbor insults her? so a hussy has d 'unreserved right' to insult his wife? it is well!
Family › Re: Which Do I Choose; Marriage Or Job? by bukatyne(f): 9:41pm On Jun 06, 2012
@OP: i like CC's advice and would like to add some pieces of advice: wat good is a marriage/union if u can't achieve ur dreams n desires or if u're d party who keeps sacrificin? God created u both as beautiful persons wit purposes to fulfill so ur union should bring out the best in the both of u. wat do u want to be in future? wat's ur desire in life? is that job on d path to achieving ur dream in life? by now, ur H2B should know ur dreams n work wit u towards fulfillin it. i like d fact dat @ ur age, u're thinking of ur future. sit him down n u both discuss ur dreams, purposes, ambitions etc and ow to achieve dem. resume d job n look for another @ abj n tell him that u wouldn't leave ur present job til u get another one. if he was transfered in his place of work in future, would he move u al to d his new duty post? and for those talkin of good men, wat makes a man good? reject d status quo that u must be attached to man b4 u succeed or make it in life. it is wel wit u.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 10:22am On Jun 06, 2012
were d disciples not also supporting d earthly ministry of Jesus b/4 they started theirs? so if ur uncle supports u in school, he is inferior to uhuh when i gave dat ref, i was telling u about more disciples of Jesus and not if they were male or female. Jesus Christ changed d 'position' of women so to say during His earthly ministry. P.S. in the Bible, a supporter or helper is not considered or seen as a lower or inferior person. As a matter of fact, leaders are called to serve. i guess in ur analogy, Jesus is inferior to His disciples because He washed their feet!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 10:08am On Jun 06, 2012
Logic Mind: Thanks for poiting out those passages. They are an eye opener for those that wish to know.

Luke 10:1-24, speaks about jesus sending out 72 appointed people. It does not tell us if there were women amongst these 72. We can assume that there were women but it would only be an assumption as the scripture did not deem it important to mention.
But there were women followers of jesus and his 12 disciples (or apostles. matthew called them both) according to Luke 8: 1-3

Luke 8:1-3

8 After this, Jesus traveled about from one town and village to another, proclaiming the good news of the kingdom of God. The Twelve were with him, 2 and also some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases: Mary (called Magdalene) from whom seven demons had come out; 3 Joanna the wife of Chuza, the manager of Herod’s household; Susanna; and many others. These women were helping to support them out of their own means.

But which women? Normal women? Scripture says no.
They were women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases. That is exactly my point. That is how the bible sees women. The bible is answering your questions about the stand of women in it.

"These women were helping to support them out of their own means". This phrase really says it all. This phrase shows that the bible finds it necessary to justify the inclusion of these women. What were the means of these women? Is it their role to support the men? Maybe according to god.
d only woman who demons was cast of was mary n if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature. old things ve passed away n all tins ve become new. my pt is dat mary became new! she was not seen as an 'ex demon possessed woman' etc. Christ restores a person/thing back 2 its original state! wat would u say about matthew dat was once a tax collector? was he not an apostle or paul dat was once a persecutor? and wat is wrong that they supported His ministry? so that they had d money to support His ministry made them inferior?
Christianity Etc › Re: Churches That Can Lead You To Hell Fire by bukatyne(f): 9:29am On Jun 06, 2012
lepasharon: churches that celebrate:
new year
easter
christmas
mothers day
fathers day
haloween

churches that:
tell you jesus is god
tell you its ok to eat pork
preach the trinity
morning lepasharon, there is nothing wrong wit celebratin children's day etc etc. Jesus Christ is God the Son, The trinity is real (God the Father, God The Son And God The Holy Spirit) and it is NOT ur pastor's business if u decide to eat pork or snake or toad! halloween is a witchcraft thing so i don't expect churches to celebrate. abeg, read ur Bible! P.S. wat church do u attend?
Romance › Re: Ladies, Would You Date/marry A Submissive Man? by bukatyne(f): 10:30pm On Jun 05, 2012
[quote author=Lord_Reed]@Bukatyne
The Bible doesn't call it submission. Those qualities you described are called Meekness - having power and using it to serve. It is the wife who called to "submit" the man is called to love like Jesus. Jesus did not/does not submit to the Church, He serves the Church while the Church submits to Him.[/quote]oya tell me d difference btw serving and submission! when a man is serving, is he not submittin? u know, i used to think that submission was a woman's curse or something until my eyes were opened and i saw that any problem wit we dat didn't understand! afteral, all christians (male n female) are told to submit to one another Eph 5:21, Rom 12:9-10. i c submission as esteeming others above urself, considering them first etc. if u cal that service, al well and good but i know that the Bible expects mutual submission from d couple. ve a splendid night rest
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 9:42am On Jun 05, 2012
Ptolomeus: Mhhhh
Mary Magdalene?
Wife / lover?
Disciple?
Lover / disciple?
dear she was a female disciple and she was not the only one so i don't know y any particular reference is made to her
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 9:40am On Jun 05, 2012
[quote author=emöfine2]My day was fine, thanks...and you?



No but I was nurtured under a Christian household.[/quote]i m splendid too. al these stuff u typed in ur prev post, were u taught in church, by ur parents or is it wat u read in ur Bible? i mean wat is/was the source of ur beliefs?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 9:36am On Jun 05, 2012
@logicmind: i couldn't quote ur post cos it already contained d max letters. for a person who claimed to know d Bible, u should know dat Jesus had 12 Apostles and several disciples. a disciple literally means 'follower'. there are a lot of women disciples read Luke 8: 1-3. also read Luke 10:1-24 to see more disciples
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 7:14pm On Jun 04, 2012
[quote author=emöfine2]The bible is often claimed to be the divine word of god yet that same book is a cultural manual for the Jews (at least the OT).
Religion is an extension of culture (note those that are patriarchal often favour men)...and the bible is a continuation from the Torah (OT aka Jewish laws).

From genesis - we first discover how women were made supposedly subordinate to men as a punishment...thus our so called god-given gender roles was as a result of a punishment!...?
Women generally played the supporting role in the bible and were mostly elected as the lead when our femininity was thus needed aka Mary’s womb.

The bible certainly does not promote equality and many are led to believe that this is supposedly God's command so such roles should be unreservedly accepted when religion being a by-product of culture most likely contained bias that stood to serve a particular demographic.[/quote]hello, ow did ur day go? re u a christian?
Romance › Re: Ladies, Would You Date/marry A Submissive Man? by bukatyne(f): 11:16am On Jun 04, 2012
i used to think submission was a bad thing or a woman's 'curse' until God opened my eyes. actually, in an ideal marriage, a man is first submissive to his wife before she submits to him. i define submission as 'esteeming the other person above urself'. if we look at d definition of love in 1cor13:4-8, we would c that a man that is humble, polite, trust his wife, endures all things, respect her etc already esteems her above himself and therefore, the woman has to submit (esteem him above herself) so dere's a balance so that no one is played. a man is d head (source/ building block) of his home because a man must decide to get married (ideally) and approach a lady b4 a home can be built. however, the place of headship is more of a responsibility than a privilege. this means that a man has to do everything in his power to make d marriage work cos he is d head just like a DG ll do all he has to do to make his company excel. have a blessed day!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 10:46am On Jun 04, 2012
@ezicat: i would also advice u to read d Bible for urself and not rely on anybody's interpretation. i also used to think that God was sexist until i prayed to Him to reveal His Word to me and i decided to open my heart to hear from Him. i'm stil learning everyday and i must tell u that it has been glorious. i've learnt to differenciate btw God's perfect will and what humans do. to really know how d God sees women, just study the life and ministry of Jesus Christ. have a blessed day ahead.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 10:09am On Jun 04, 2012
ezicat: The debates were interesting - they've now denigrated into voicing of opinions - but they were revealing while they lasted. At Logicmind...wow...if I was offended by the bible before...yikes!

Regarding the treatment of women in the Bible - I'll have to say sexist. Bottom line - I mean the verses were pretty clear from where I'm standing. There are of course the modern day interpretations that some have now tried to pedal "no - the Bible wasn't sexist at all if you read it like this...with the inspiration of God"...I guess that inspiration didn't exist until the women's liberation movement of the last century when SECULAR law mandated that women were equal? Before this time society including Christians didn't treat women as such. Same with slavery. Not yet with war, but when we get there via secular development, I'm sure mainstream conservative Christians will find a way to re-interpret the Bible accordingly.

Face it - secular law comes up with something new and improved, and Christians try to re-inteprete the Bible to suit the new culture. Take the new green culture and environmental push. Now some Christians are re-interpreting a section of Genesis? involving Eden where God put man there to "take care of it." And as for free will - come now - like the stuttering Moses or the whale-living Jonah? Looks like God is perfectly capable of convincing people to do his will, so no I don't buy the "His hands are tied" excuse.

Bottom line - the Bible is a big book. You can get really fancy with interpretations.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 10:08am On Jun 04, 2012
ezicat: The debates were interesting - they've now denigrated into voicing of opinions - but they were revealing while they lasted. At Logicmind...wow...if I was offended by the bible before...yikes!

Regarding the treatment of women in the Bible - I'll have to say sexist. Bottom line - I mean the verses were pretty clear from where I'm standing. There are of course the modern day interpretations that some have now tried to pedal "no - the Bible wasn't sexist at all if you read it like this...with the inspiration of God"...I guess that inspiration didn't exist until the women's liberation movement of the last century when SECULAR law mandated that women were equal? Before this time society including Christians didn't treat women as such. Same with slavery. Not yet with war, but when we get there via secular development, I'm sure mainstream conservative Christians will find a way to re-interpret the Bible accordingly.

Face it - secular law comes up with something new and improved, and Christians try to re-inteprete the Bible to suit the new culture. Take the new green culture and environmental push. Now some Christians are re-interpreting a section of Genesis? involving Eden where God put man there to "take care of it." And as for free will - come now - like the stuttering Moses or the whale-living Jonah? Looks like God is perfectly capable of convincing people to do his will, so no I don't buy the "His hands are tied" excuse.

Bottom line - the Bible is a big book. You can get really fancy with interpretations.
dear, we don't interprete d Bible according to new cultures else we would be supporting gay marriages and other things. like i said earlier, reading d Bible and understandin it is every important. a lot of us read n don't understand while some don't read at al. the Bible is not to be read as a story book. when reading, it is always best to ask 'Father y did this happen?', 'what re U trying to tell us?' etc. but u can't ask that witout God been ur Father.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 1:12am On Jun 03, 2012
Logic Mind: in the bible, a women have no say about who fvcks her. it is either god, or her father, that decides for her.
logicmind, logic dictates that if u don't understand a concept, u ask those who understand. P.S. u claimed to be a Bible preaching atheist. even if u 'read' the Bible, u can't understand because u re NOT a child of God and the god of this world (satan) has blinded ur mind. God be wit u. no matter wat u say, always remember that Jesus Christ loves u so much that He died for ur sins at the cross of calvary and He is knocking at the door of ur heart asking u to allow Him be ur Lord and Personal Saviour. He Loves U So Much!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 1:02am On Jun 03, 2012
logicboy: @ Logic mind


When you are done destroying and debunking Bukatyne, please visit my new thread;

I am born again!! I love God! lol


https://www.nairaland.com/953661/lets-give-thanks-god-everything
Logic boy, i m smilin as i'm typin. do u know y? because neither u nor logicmind nor anyother person can destroy me or my faith or wateva. i'm a child of God and my Father tells me to be of good cheer because i have overcome the world. deep down, there is a void in ur lives that only God can fill! acquire everything there is to acquire in this world but u ll find out at d end that everything is vanity upon vanity! Jesus Christ said: 'what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his own soul?' Apostle Paul even killed christians before Christ met him and yet God till used him for His glory. as i told logicmind, i pray that u see the light of the gospel before it is too late! it is appointed for man to die once and after death is judgement! God be wit u!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 12:53am On Jun 03, 2012
Logic Mind: one man's meat is another man's bone
what you find delicious may be a poisonous insult to another. ask muslims what they think os tasty finger licking bacon bites and pork ribs.
i am a bible preaching atheist. it means i seek out the truth from the bible and tell those that have ears (or eyes in nl)
jesus in heaven had no mother - true . thus bastard
jesus on earth had no biological father - true. thus bastard
bastard in heaven, bastard on earth

go to another man's wife and artificially inseminate her by force = rap.ist
holy ghost did that to poor joseph's wife

can you see evil happening and do nothing even though you are powerful enough to act? yes? then you are useless.

you see, i speak the truth. only those wallowing in falsehood can see my honesty as insult.
i was goin to reply each of ur posts but i realized that u re no longer interested in having a logical discussion. i really wonder y u re so bitter and ranting this way. i ve hardly seen people so desperate to deny the existence of God without having a reason behind it. u might have thought God abandoned u in a time of need or something but i tell u that He never sleeps nor slumber. everything that happens does for a reason. i pray that it ll not be too late when u see the light. God bless u!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 12:53am On Jun 03, 2012
Logic Mind: one man's meat is another man's bone
what you find delicious may be a poisonous insult to another. ask muslims what they think os tasty finger licking bacon bites and pork ribs.
i am a bible preaching atheist. it means i seek out the truth from the bible and tell those that have ears (or eyes in nl)
jesus in heaven had no mother - true . thus bastard
jesus on earth had no biological father - true. thus bastard
bastard in heaven, bastard on earth

go to another man's wife and artificially inseminate her by force = rap.ist
holy ghost did that to poor joseph's wife

can you see evil happening and do nothing even though you are powerful enough to act? yes? then you are useless.

you see, i speak the truth. only those wallowing in falsehood can see my honesty as insult.
i was goin to reply each of ur posts but i realized that u re no longer interested in having a logical discussion. i really wonder y u re so bitter and ranting this way. i ve hardly seen people so desperate to deny the existence of God without having a reason behind it. u might have thought God abandoned u in a time of need or something but i tell u that He never sleeps nor slumber. everything that happens does for a reason. i pray that it ll not be too late when u see the light. God bless u!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 1:01pm On Jun 02, 2012
Logic Mind: Me neither.
So why do you bring house help into the argument?
Running around in circles and afraid to defend your faith.

[/b]If my faith is an insult to you, then yours is an insult[/b] to me.
did i ever give such an impression? i have so far tried to have a reasonable discussion wit u even when u try to be insultive. i dont even know ur faith so y should it be an insult to me? if i m afraid to defend wat i believe in, then i should check my faith again!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 12:40pm On Jun 02, 2012
Logic Mind: the famous "it was the culture at that time" escape route.
abeg, define culture for me!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 12:33pm On Jun 02, 2012
Logic Mind: So you are saying that some parts of the bible are not the word of god?
that's a new one.
the whole Bible is inspired by God but not all the words in the Bible are the direct words of God!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 12:24pm On Jun 02, 2012
Logic Mind: hypocrite!
did the bible say "house help"?
the bible said and meant slaves.

let me put it this way: if i met a house help, "helping" against her will, I will not only advise her to rebel, I will help her to be rid of her bondage and bring the her master to justice.

That is why i am better than your useless god and his bastard son of a rap.ist holy ghost.
Logic Mind, i believe u're an intelligent person and intelligent people don't pass across their points wit insults esp to God. Even if u don't believe in Him, respect d beliefs of others who do. i never told u that the Bible said anything about househelps. read that post again
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stand Of Women In The Bible by bukatyne(op): 1:27am On Jun 02, 2012
Logic Mind: This is the introduction of chapter 2

Genesis 2:4

4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.
and was it not in d beginning God created d Garden of Eden? did u notice that some plants were for animals n fruit trees for humans? read d whole chapter again

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