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musKeeto: Worshippers of the Nigerian God will threaten Seun and other Nlanders for posting this truth..

hi, u didn't get d jist of d post; d author is mockin the way christians and muslims worship God in hypocrisy and not that this is wat God really wants.

victorian: @ bukatyne, u are so right on point.. What we truly have these days is glorified slavery in marriages. And its not a pleasant sight to see.. Men wants a submissive girlfriend/wife, but does not give really give a damn about her and the woman who wants to be married by all means, accepts all bullshit from him until after marriage. Then , after marriage, either one gets tired or both, then they either choose a loveless marriage and smile infront of friends/families that they are happy, while at home they are cat and dog or one chooses a way out of the misery and file for divorce..frequent scenarios.

so true! u forgot d 3rd: the men start blamin d women that they re not submissive that's y their marriage ain't working! if d man cheats on his wife, it's d woman's fault; if d woman cheats, it's a taboo and so many other double standards. wat amuses me most is when they start d 'our parents marriage was better/happy b'cos our mothers were submissive'. some people don't know d difference btw a peaceful home (when d wife decides to take all bs from d husband) and a joyful happy. only few of our mothers truely knew d joys of a joyful/happy home and a husband that genuinely loves them. that's y most gals n their parents chase after 'made men' cos they don't believe in love and have d line of reasonin that if they want to suffer, let them suffer in plenty! ow re u?

and for those looking for a submissive gf/fiance, they should be hyper ready to be loving and sacrificial bfs/fiancee. it's a pity that most gals don't know/have their self worth and esteem and sell themselves cheaply to guys in the name of been wit a guy. they prefer to be labeled as mr. x's galfrnd/woman/wife even when d man /guy is not worth it esp when he is loaded. until woman learn to discover, develop and treasure themselves, men ll continue to treat them like bullshit and be unhappy in their relationships. until men learn ow to cherish, respect, protect etc d women in their lives and not see them as necessary evil, they will also continue to be unhappy in their relationshps

i m really enjoyin this topic and i agree wit sexrevives and Thoniaslim's points amongst others. i ve come to realize wit revelation that wat is obtainable in most Nigerian homes is not submission, it's servitude or wat a popular pastor calls 'glorified slavery'. A typical nigerian marriage only fulfills 1 out of d 3 reasons for marriage: companionship, prevention against adultery and child bearing and we all know d one they fulfill. initially, when i saw ...'wives submit to ur husbands...', i thought God was been sexist. However, on further study, i realized that the love God expects from men is much more indepth than even d submission of women. God compared His love for isreal to the love a husband has for his wife. i read 1Cor 13:1-8 and i realized that when a man loves genuinely, he lays it all for d woman. he believes d best of her. he can do anything to make her happy. she is his world and everything! King Solomon even said in Proverbs that 4 things amaze him and d last is 'how a man loves a woman'. when d man loves his wife, he esteems her above himself. he considers her first in all his decisions. when that loved woman submits, she esteems her husband above himself and considers him first so there is a balance. some people wonder y d man must love first; d man finds d woman and is d head (the source/building block of that family). a loved woman will do everything in her power to please her husband. she ll think of cooking his best meal, looking good for him, dressing him up to be outstanding, encourage him, believes in him and trusts him. when her husband brings suggestions/ideas, b'cos she knows that he loves her and has considered her before making that suggestion, she readily supports him and stand by him. a loved woman that doesn't submit has a problem and a husband that is expecting his wife to submit witout loving her unconditionally has a problem and is looking for a glorified slave. have a splendid day

thank God for this thread! i just got an sms from dem for interview and i decided to google d addy up. thank God i wouldn't waste moi doe et time!

i've gone thru dis thread and i really enjoyed it. however, i want to say that our parents loving each other was the exception and not the rule. also, it takes a man and a woman to build a home. Egba girl, i agree wit some of ur points but a man is commanded to love his wife. i tell u, a woman submittin to a man that doesn't love her is slavery! pure and simple! a man s to love first and a woman submits. u re a christian, y do u submit to Christ? it's because He has proved He loves u. most times, we tend to mix culture wit christianity. @last page, ur sis in law would be happy to do that b'cos her husband loves her. imagine she's tryin to please a man that doesn't care about her, she would feel like a slave. when a man loves a woman, he ll do everything to please her and she would respond by pleasin (submittin) to him too. i believe false expectations, lack of tolerance n hypocrisy also affects today's marriages! besides, a lot of divorce happened during our parents' time, it was not documented or wat do u cal a man sending his wife away to marry another one or abandoning one in one city and marrying another in another city i feel al d woman's struggle and endurance in marriage is part of the curse in Gen 3:16 or ow do u term a case where a woman is prayin for her husband to come back from his girlfrnd's place? is it not a curse can a man do dat? or is that part of d privileges of headship? a lot of women endure horrible things just to keep d 'mrs' title so i won't blame those that divorce for genuine reasons. imagine a wife packin condoms for her husband for his business trip! i believe that husbands and wives, men and women re equal but have diff roles. equality doesn't amount to being rude or d evils most people term it. i believe that it's because most men re rude to their wives that's y dey when they hear equality, they hear rudeness and disrespect. i believe people in wateva relationship they find themselves should treat d other partner as they would like to be treated.

naijathings: there is nothing beautiful about this. or do you consider this beautiful? fake hair, fake eye lashes, fake shin color (photoshop), fake nails, fake fake fake. let us talk about true African beauty. Omotola, Onyeka, Stella damacus, Sandra Achums. Please add to the list instead of promoting this fake "thing" eeeew yuck *i just puked*

and omotola or stella or sandra don't use these fake things? they wear their natural hair, colour, nails, etc?

MizEmerald: . And who told u d university in Akungba Akoko has ever done rag day..see ur cockroach infested mouth

did u attend AAUA? leave pro01 alone! he doesn't know wat he's saying!

@OP: it's really a pity. d guy invested in u and now u know he's an illiterate, short etc etc. my dear, a person doesn't reap where he/she doesn't sow. love is not only a feeling, it's also an action. u said u paid d guy wit sex, did u not enjoy it too? did u n d man agree about marriage? does he see u as his wife to be? b'cos i don't understand how a truck driver(who doesn't have much per se) can sponsor u out of charity. u can polish him up and he'll even be better than u cos that's all i can get from ur post. for those saying she should pay d guy back, can she pay back for his care? his sweat for d money? his attention? his time? his dreams? d sex? no, she can never pay back no matter d amount of money she gives him. from d way d story goes, d guy should even be in his late 20s or early 30s. remember that God is a God of vengeance and covenant. and finally, let me tell u that there is probably NO MAN u ll tell this story to that ll respect u cos he ll see u as an ingrate n wicked person. if he even marries u, he ll be afraid to invest in u cos u're untrustworthy and reliable

pleep: Women don't get blamed for the abusive men in their lifes unless you picked them.

For example, you didn't pick your father so no one blames you for his unnacceptable behavior. However, you did pick your abusive boyfriends so you have no one to blame but yourself.

By all means avoid men if they are so evil, there is no law that says you must be with a man. I actually hope you choose not to be with a man, for his sake, because you carry a stunning amount of baggage. I do not think relationships are the best idea for you. All that I ask is that you don't have an illigitamate child to continue the cycle.

if u don't have an advice for her or can't put urself in her shoes please, ejo, biko, mbok just stay clear.

Fulaman198: Here is the thing, Western countries are Majority Christian nations like the countries I mentioned earlier are majority Muslim nations. Americas currency for crying out loud says "in God we Trust". American principles were founded on God. That said, what do you consider a Muslim nation? Senegal is 95‰ Muslim. America and France are both about 95% Christian. Italy is 99% Christian so is Mexico.

dear, if u read d brief analysis of who a christian is in my last post, u would know that d amount of christians in America et France is not up to 50%! if 'christians' according to u re 95%, where would u put muslims, atheists, pagans, idolaters, etc?

as for d issue of abuse from other men, check urself: does ur bitterness spill to other people esp guys? ow do u dress? re u always d boning snobbish type? all these attract abuse from guys sometimes esp guys within ur age bracket. it could also be that u re looking for affirmation from them unconsciously and they use this to abuse u. wateva is d case, stay away from the guys who abuse u. it's everyone u come in contact wit u should keep. make friends that appreciate n seek to improve u and also make sure that u're a good friend to them also. as a poster said, treat people exactly how u want them to treat u.

@OP: i feel ur pain b'cos i've been there before. i know that underneath that bad sheep persona, u re capable of being a good person. dear, there is only one person who can totally heal u, make u whole again, make u free to love n trust people generally n live life to d fullest and not as ur father's prisoner is Jesus Christ. u have to give ur life to Him and He ll heal u. decide to help people in any little way u can. greet people warmly and face d world wit a smile. if u are opportuned to stay away from ur dad for a while like visiting family or entering school pls do else the bitterness keeps growing. don't go into a relationship thinking it ll complete u cos it wouldn't. see ur situation as an advantage: u'll be tougher than others, u've known hatred so when u see love, u ll recognize and cherish it. God Be Wit U. As i think of more things that helped me, i ll post it. don't feel sorry for urself and dear, not everyone is evil, there re very good people both men and women out there.

maclatunji: Once again, cute but you are more in denial than accepting reality. Yes, there were/are Christians that have beautiful hearts and seek to share what they perceive to be the beauty of their religion. However, the overwhelming majority have used "Christianity" as a smokescreen to achieve their political/economic aims over a very very long stretch of time.

sorry i lost my first post. a christian is a person that strives to be Christlike in thoughts, words n actions while a person who goes to church and yet make no effort to renew their minds to conform to Christ are just church goers irrespective of their church or position in the church. amongst christians, we ve d baby/carnal/nominal christians and the spiritual christians. nominal christians stil allow their flesh to dominate their decisions. u hear things like 'christianity is of d heart', 'there is nothing wrong in drinking, clubbin, tattoo etc'. their spirit is willlin to obey God but their flesh is not surpressed. the spiritual christians are moving towards being like Christ in words, deeds n thoughts. they are conscious of His presence everywhere and always want to be His ambassador. they are dying to self daily and are producing the fruit of the Spirit. note that these classifications have nothin to do wit ur church/position so a pastor can be a nominal christian though putting up appearances while a cleaner is a matured christian. it all depends on one's personal relationship wit God (the Father, Son And Holy Spirit). in summary, a church goer has not yet given his/her life to Christ. a nominal christian has given his/her life to Christ but has not started tappin into Christ's redemptive work on Calvary. he/she doesn't or hasn't started renewin his/her mind to conform to Christ. a spiritual christian has tapped into d redemptive work, started renewing his/her mind, developing d fruit of the Holy Spirit and is working towards perfection.

[quote author=Rafidi ]interesting points.i really don't want to continue the long and time consuming arguments many of which stem from ignorance of history and reality.

but i am really amused by the way our christian friends are defending themselves.they have easily made the majority of christians non-christian.catholics are not christians,and the anglican church is a royal house church and therefore also "un-christian".they find it easily to denounce over 1.5. billion christians out of 2 billion as "non-christian",but find it difficult to see that wahhabism followed by a few million muslims out of over 1.5 billion muslims are following interpreations of the Quran that are extreme and in conflict with Islam and therefore Islam and the large body of Muslims are not responsible for terrorism,that wahhabi/salafi groups like alqaeda (with american support) and boko haram are following.

i really also liked Mac's point.if christians claim to be like Christ then their very name "christian" is un-christlike because Jesus (as) never called himself or followers "christians".so all those claiming to be followers of christ should stop calling themselves "christian".Jesus did not call his followers "christian".[/quote]dear, a majority of 'christians' re not 'christians' but church goers. read my previous post to mactunji about d derivation of the word 'christian'. it's found in Acts 11:26

maclatunji: ^Cute, but your points are feeble. You said: "as for d vatican, it's a catholic state n not christian." . Without the Catholic Church, there wouldn't be Christianity. The word "Christianity" itself is not even attributable to Jesus. He never said he brought Christianity or called his disciples or believers "Christians". So, even from the name of your religion, you have failed to conform to the standard of Jesus Christ (AS).

dear, i don't want to argue wit u cos we are NOT arguing from the same basis. for d record, 'there will be no christianity without catholism' is the funniest thin i've heard/read today! in d Bible, the apostles of Christ were first called christians in antioch because they behaved like Christ! so catholic or wateva is not the basis of christianity! i don't even know where catholism stemmed from b'cos most of their beliefs have no basis in the Bible. they pray wit beads (rosary) and chant prayers (repeat lines of a prayer a certain no of times) and it is clearly condemned in the Bible.

@mactunji: i ve read ur write up n its quite interesting. however, let me put it to u that a true missionary has no political affiliation and goes to an unevangelized land to tell them d gospel. u mentioned the church missionary society. i want to believe that u're talkin of d Church of England and from wat i understand it to be, it's like the church of d royal house so already it is political in nature. those people (if ur account is true) used d guise of christianity to pave a smooth way for d colonial masters. if u do ur research u ll c that those african nations were not given the Bible to read for themselves and relied on wat they were told. the real missionaries we celebrate eg mary slessor, david livingstone, john wesley etc as christians came to africa on their personal finances or were sponsored by their local church, had no political affiliations and were not really celebrated. so those CMS u mentioned just came to make the people demi semi literate and more gullible, they are not missionaries

maclatunji: Errrr, technically you are wrong, The Vatican City is a Sovereign State and is based on Christianity, but I get your point. The reason you can say this is because Christianity relies heavily on the whims of its adherents (the clerics in Orthodox Christianity) and every Tom, Trish and Sally (with Protestants). Hence, there are no frameworks for having an "Christian political outlook", instead you have the "political outlook of Christians". Let us look at an example in my next post.

as for d vatican, it's a catholic state n not christian. protestants don't recognize d vatican as a special place though that's besides d point. as for u sayin d Christianity follows d whims of d followers, u're wrong. A Christian is a person who behaves like Jesus Christ in essence, it's a way of life so a Nigerian christian may dress, eat, speak diff language from a Ghanaian christian but their values must be d same. Christ didn't come to change any political inclination or establish an earthly kingdom. He said 'My kingdom is not of this world' so there is no christian political structure or wateva. Jesus has set d standards of christianity so if u c anyone whose life doesn't conform to d standard of Christ, he or she is not a christian. Jesus Christ is d same yesterday, today and forever so all christians should exhibit Christ like characters whether they be Germans Or Nigerians.

tiarabubu, ur analysis is suberb! i ll say it again: there is nowhere/country on this earth called a christian nation! we don't have a christian government either! so al those saying America, France etc are christian nations re wrong! it's just like saying that Nigeria is a christian nation.

Ctrol: fanaticism that is all! this is to show the failure of our educational system and the total failure of the NYSC scheme itself, i can't believe
after spending 4 - 6 years in the university and going through the orientation of the NYSC people like this still surface.... christian born again or hijab wearing Muslim sister!! you see them in the hospitals,police etc and that is why we will always face situations like BOKOHARAM.

Ctrol, good morning. education or not, the place of religion is stil there! education doesn't hamper being a born again Christian, it enhances it. it's only that some people are fanatics. God love His children to dress beautifully n decently, excel in our given professions, be wealthy thru godly means (yet be content when we don't have much), be relevant to our society, to top in class godly etc. Check out d Bible, al God's children excelled not just passed.

zikclassiq: She dressed decently. The bible says its abomination 2 God 4 a woman 2 wear a garment that is 4 men. Una no dy read bible?

my dear, i want to believe u're joking. pls don't misinterprete d Bible. when d Bible was written, d men wore skirts however, that's for another day. if she understands d Bible that way, then she should avoided d scheme all together b'cos it will be 'evil'! she is NOT above d law!

i sincerely believe there is a uniform for every occasion and if u can't fit into d system mbok stay clear! this has got nothing to do wit religion, infact she's been disobedient which is a sin. if she couldn't put on trousers, y didn't she steer clear? i'm sure that when NYSC was established, it was a taboo for women to wear trousers in Nigeria so d trousers is NOT for fashion! if i were an NYSC official, i would NOT recognize her as my corp member b'cos i didn't issue that kit to her. i'm a christian and i know that i decided not to show up for an exam cos we were told to wear jeans and a tee shirt and i don't put on trousers even though d whole exam later turned to be fake. we christians should learn how to lead productive lives, impart people and live Christlike lives instead. The Bible said we should give everyone his due n behave like people we come in contact with as far as it doesn't lead to sin. it's like a christian goin to a muslim country/town n it is compulsory to wear an hijab cos it's their mode of dressing. does d hijab negate one's salvation? sorry for d epistle! ve a splendid day

BoboYekini: girls and drama. Why, for heaven's sake would you be testing a guy? For weeks?!and you had to hide your car too?!and take okada! Lol, too much babe. Not these days, no time.

don't men test their women to? ow would u know that someone trusts u if u don't test d person or if d person doesn't prove it? people re talkin that d woman shouldn't have tested d man but if it was d other way round, everyone would have said good riddance to bad rubbish! well poster, God Bless U! i pray that God ll c u thru! just make sure that u keep been careful. have my best wishes!

Ubiero: In a case where d guy and gf have mutual friends, say one who is getting married. And dey both buy d material to sew. After d wedding ceremony,dey take pictures, den wat

dear, this is different. u said they used d clothes for a friend's wedding. d OP is talking of them buying d clothes specially!

@ OP: i like ur romantic side but hey! don't pull d cart b4 d horse. wat i do is wear complementary clothes. u could wear d same colour or alternate colours! u wear all white wit a touch of black and she wears all black wit a touch of white, d same colour of jeans/top etc. i wish u all d best. wearing d same clothes is like co-habiting.

kennyjvip: I think ladies need it most.cos for any happy home women shld be submissive to her husband.dats one of d greatest complain I have with my damn ex. Gf.she doesn't accept blame.I always use my mum as case study
Any time mum did any th dats annoyed dad she will always apologised to dad with respect and told us dat for any happy home women shld accept blame.I don't want a situation whereby my wife will be keeping malice I will come back frm office I will not b happy some one called my wife is keeping malicious act with me
Dats an absurd th.
And religiously is not good for a Muslim to behave like dat.

hello kenny, there is no such thing as 'women need it more'. as a religious person as u rightly said, it is expected of one either man or woman to apologize when wrong. that is a hallmark of humility and not a woman's 'thingy'. if ur mom felt she should apologize when she is not wrong then that was how she decided to run her home, that's not d norm. women too don't always like coming home/welcomin a malicious hubby so u also have a part to play in making ur home an haven n it starts by apologizin when u re wrong. take care.

Ehinafe: Since there is nobody to answer, the question, I would profer answer which is 8

ow? i tried 8 n it didn't work.

Sagamite: If anything is speaking to you in your head, believe me it is not God, it is what is called schizophrenia.

I am not saying you should not believe in divine intervention, but TRUST ME God does not speak to you. That is nonsense!

sweetheart, y should i TRUST YOU that God doesn't speak to me? re u God? or His Brother? Dear, Jesus Christ Fills Everything Everywhere! God Speaks to me and all His Children that re willing to hear from Him. I don't need to trust u or anyone else on this because i TRUST HIM! splendid night rest.

adaybayor: 1. If there is nothing like christian nation they why do xtians claim that xtianity is responsible for the good things in the west. No country has 100% of a religion.
2. Yes I won't say women are inferior but the plain truth is the nature doesn't present same opportunity to both gender.

I appreciate your calmness

which country claims that it's christianity dat does al d good things? which nature doesn't give women equal opportunities? nature has nothing to do wit it, it's culture

i agree wit d last posts of MzDarkSkin. i also want to say that sometimes we have standards or 'principles' but when we start a relationship, we should evaluate it n be ready to compromise. for example we say 'we can't cook', 'we can't do this or dat' but when we meet someone that deserves it or breaks his/her own principles for us, we should know when to be rigid n when to compromise

adaybayor: And I gave you a very simple and straight forward answer. Most of the arabian countries give no nonsense punishments for breaking the laws of the land. If america gives you life sentence for doing drugs, saudi will offer you death. If you commit adultery in saudi the punishment is not same as in america.
Why is crime so high in america?

if d arab world has very stiff laws, y don't d muslims go there or do they want to commit crimes i believe they should be more comfortable in arab countries there is assurance of safety b'cos of their low crime rate and the religious presence there than in america where crime rate is high. it's either muslims start rushing to saudi like tomorrow no de OR they keep their mouth shut about d ills of the west they troop it daily! i wonder y they like d crime saturated west! maybe they re actually d 'committers' of d crimes!

pato405: after reading this, many 9ja girls who are already in the act will be sooo ENCOURAGED to continue in the act of cheating - they call it 'runs'. mtcheeeeeeeeeew! ARRANT RUBBISH!

n oga wat is ur annoyance for? when men post stories of how their wives forgave them, re they encouragin over men to do runs