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I will benefit you of some of the attention you seek. Deliberating with women on an intellectual level always leads to nothing especially with modern day women and feminists.

I will do this because of one or two readers.

Ladycewhy:
Highlights;

1)Eve caused the downfall of man and blamed adam her husband.
2)women are disloyal and opportunistic
3)women only value men for their power , attention and power.
4)Blame the current ritual killings in Nigeria on female promiscuity, myopic tendency and greediness
5) Children prefer their mothers to their fathers.
6)men have the highest number of prisoners, school dropouts ,shorter life expectancy
7)men were the ones that went to wage wars in the past
8 )women as a gender are still existing due to the benevolence of men ,women should be grateful to men.


Dear women,as I was saying;
1) These men believe ,they would still be in the garden of Eden chilling if our predecessor eve had not ruined things for Adam. Hence daughters of eve.But if I recall correctly and my Bible knowledge is still sharp eve blamed the serpent and not Adam ,but hey it won't be sweet if he doesn't add Maggi to twist and spice it up a little bit.

Go check that post again. I missed the word "God" in that sentence... But since you want to capitalize on that lets go.

1. If Eve wasn't myopic in that fictional tale, why didn't she resists the serpent's temptations? She knew everything about the tree of knowledge and good and evil but yet still turned the garden upside down. Who was oppressing Eve at that time?

2. Eve already knew that she has fallen yet she brought her husband to the equation. Why did she lured her husband? Weren't they supposed to look at for each other?

Since it's a fictional tale no need pressing further.

Ladycewhy:
2)He claims men are the ideal lovers who's only duty is to pay bills and lift his feet up meanwhile this modern woman ,goes to the same work(regardless if she earns lower or not) faces the same work related stress as the man , come back home ,takes care of the children ,the house and her husband as well.

No debate about that, men are the ideal lovers.

Are you talking about the modern wife? Like seriously? When the rate of divorce is on the increase. When marriage is on the decline. When the birth rate is falling gradually.

Do you even know that a surveyed was carried out and 1 in 3 women preferred to be stay at home mum. In fact, women are checking out of the workplace to become stay at home mum because they have now seen that the workspace is not sugar and honey. Men catered for them and their offsprings because the nature of the workplace doesn't align perfectly with womanly nature.

By the way, many career wives has nannnies who takes care of the house. And most of these households are being majorly sponsored by the husbands with the women just contributing meagre sums plus boring sex.

Lets not talk about the attitudes of these career women towards their husbands and children. Because once a woman has sensed that she is on the same level with her husband or slightly higher respect towards her husband dwindles. Ditto for care towards their children.

Ladycewhy:
4)He claims male circumcision is still a thing but is not strong on stopping it either,but hey let's just throw that in for the sake of argument.If you want the next generation of boys to be moving around with no cap and their penlses looking like one eyed snakes , your call, you can start the movement.

Rather than you women complain about your lapses, why not become as innovative as men and beat men to their game. Yet, day in or out, you all depend on men for everything except for the air you breath.

You mentioned FGM without stating its cultural benefits to the females (of course I did). I mentioned MC while stating its cultural benefits. What you're really targeting in FGM is the severe pains associated with it and same with MC. Both have their underlying cultural benefits but you were myopic to see only FGM as a crime against womanhood.

Right now, FGM is on the low and MC still in vogue...every eyes can see what's happening right now in regards to female promiscuity.

Women and children want freedom but cannot control themselves.

Ladycewhy:
In this present day, he says if women are used for ritual , then blame it on their promiscuity,greed and myopic tendencies but if men and children are used let's just blame something else ,like "the heart of man".

Hey miss, don't shift blame here. I dealt with you on the same level you presented your arguments. You were so concerned about virgin sacrifices, female trafficking and female ritual killings, and I stated that men and children were victims too.

Now, concerning the recent ritual killings in Nigeria involving men, women and children, of which females seems to be the highest victims according to the media, is a result of female greediness, promiscuity and myopic tendency: I gladly reiterate it and will do it again.

Has females not be warned many times about it? Coupled alongside the poor security condition of Nigeria, these women has been warned several times to always be cautious at all times. Nobody even gives men such advice on a steady, but yet men are still careful. Men are blamed too if they aren't cautious!

Ladycewhy:
5) Women change their surnames,battle hormones, give men offspring to carry their legacy to the generation,change her identity,sometimes religion, sometimes drop her dreams and aspiration to meet his needs, but for some reason marriage doesn't favour men. Because they are burdened with paying bills. One then has to wonder how widows and single mothers raised their children alone if paying bills is such a weight of the world for men.

Please, keep quiet!

Marriage benefits women more than a 100%. It female's ambition and retirement plan. If possible, men would have preferred these factors you are labelling as sufferings to enjoy 50% of what women are benefiting in marriage.

Just for jokes: Religious programs e.g Shiloh, is full of women looking up to their God for a wedding ceremony/marriage.

Loooooool.

Ladycewhy:
6) If men are the highest prisoners,does that mean men are more criminally inclined? If so just blame women. If men are the highest school drop outs maybe it's because they subscribe more to the "school na scam" slogan,chase money and you will get all the women you want. But hey ,let's blame women for that as well.

You are just talking left and right. You were the one that took up an argument and blamed men for women's deficiencies not I in my response. I never blamed women for anything in my previous post except for what their evolved nature is and the complementarity of both sexes.

What I did there was espousing the pains, challenges, and agony of men which the media never tell us about, which people never talk about, which men still bottle up and carry on with their daily activities.

Now, you can judge between men and women who has the best privilege.

Alright, you now blame men for their jail term as a result crime and school dropouts as a result of fraud. These contatenate with same reasons I blame women for ritual killings as a result of their promiscuity, greediness and myopic tendency.

Ritual killings is a crime! Fraud is a crime! Which all boils down to poor governmental policies. Same with a rise in school dropouts as schools are becoming more feminized.

Ladycewhy:
Highlights;
7) wars were started by men wanting dominance over the other and wanting territories, and women ended up being the biggest casualties of this testosterone induced wars as they were shared as spoils of war.

Women are the biggest casualties of the wars most men lost their lives, homes and properties?

You are really dumb for saying that!

Women were shared as spoils but had the opportunity to become wives of their new masters or slaves to help around. Overall, women still had the opportunity to live and reproduce, an opportunity their husbands, fathers, brothers and sons never had.

Are you somnabulating or what?

Ladycewhy:
8 ) A male nairalander once said the female gender should be totally annihilated, well I guess all women should be greatfull to you men for allowing us to stay on earth then.

Women can never be annihilated because they are a necessary prerequisite in the furthering of the human species through reproduction. That's the reason women are still with men for aeons, and as I said before, both sexes are complementary where the strength of one covers for the weakness of the other.

Men want you women to become aware of your opportunistic inclination, histrionics, entitlement mentality, emotional vituperations, complacency and develop yourselves to become accountable, loyal, responsible, gracious, modest, brave, smart, kind, submissive.

Women should know all of these and remain in their lane rather than envy men or try to gaslight men for their lapses and failures. Men aren't complaining because as leaders the burden of civilization lies on their shoulders, and women and children look up to them, no wonder civilization has the footprint and insignia of men everywhere we go.

You women should become aware of your evolved nature and try as much as possible to work with it and develop yourselves. Ditto for men. And both will return to the garden of Eden.

Men don't hate women and will never do. They are simply just upset with the way you women and the government treats them---badly and with hostility.

I love you Ladycewhy.

Have a nice day.

Ladycewhy:
Yes you heard me right, men don't like you, they like your biological makeup ,they may like the fact that you have a vagina , womb and breasts but as a fellow human being , they don't like you.

Let's look back at history, in the days of old, Virgin girls were a thing for sacrifices and blood gift to the gods, then came the snatching of babies frome their mothers all in the name of twins was an abomination, then there was the selling of their daughter all in the name of bride price and the only time she was allowed to return to her father's house was in a body bag.

Still in doubt if men like you as a human first?

Ok then came the widow maltreatment, then there was a concensus to mutilate the vagina of women just to keep them under control, then came the refusal to allow them go to school. Still in doubt?

Do you still doubt the anti women campaign going on in this forum and even on the streets? Have you checked the ratio of ritual killing and see that women are the most victims?Have you heard the phrase " daughters of eve, fish brain, after devil fear women?" Well I am sure you atleast get the picture .

1. Women will always blame men for their lapses and failures. Social media and the advent of feminism, gender equality and inclusion has provided a leeway for women to express their independence, yet, nothing to write home about them.
Even if a woman becomes God, subtract all the men from the equation and they will run heaven to the drain. Even in the Bible fictional tale, Eve caused the fall of man and yet 'God' blamed Adam her husband.

2. Not that men don't like women or vice versa but that their sexual selection strategy is conflicting. Women are opportunistic, emotional, instinctual and always goes where the bag is bigger, ladder is higher, and walls stronger: Hypergamy. While men are the ideal lovers: sacrifices and care for the women and children.

The conflict here is that men want women to reciprocate their good deeds but women are unable to do so even when the man falls low. Women always stretches their tiny necks like giraffes to something always higher and forget the good deeds of the man that once treated them with care and love.

3. Men may prefer women for their wombs, vaginas and breasts while women value men for their money, power, status and attention.

However, this conflict as a result of their sexual selection strategy hasn't stopped men and women from coexisting as there has been a whole lot of compromises along the way in order to get better. Simply put, the sexes evolved to be complementary to one another, that is, the strength of one covers for the weakness of the other.

4. You are just cherry picking nonsensical claims: bride price, ritual killings, female genital mutilation blah blah blah to justify your assertions. Of course, you are very wrong.

Female genital mutilation is now a thing of the past even though the cultural reasons behind it was to curb female libido and promiscuity. However, male circumcision is still in vogue, infant baby boys still getting severe pains as a result of sexual hygiene purposes. No two ears hear about this.

Male and female offsprings has been used for ritual killings in the past, reason because the "land must be cleanse of demons causing famine, diseases, drought"...men, women, children all benefited. If you're referring to the present ritual killings in Nigeria, then blame it on female promiscuity, myopic tendency and greediness; same way you'll blame young boys that are killed daily as a result of cultism.

5. You make mention of bride price as if there's anything men gain solely through marriage but rather pains and agony. Men diminish themselves in marriage because they want wives and children to be happy. Despite that, all they get most times is henpecking and inveighing from spouses and sometimes their children. Offsprings are of benefits to mothers and fathers. Even children still prefer their mums to their dads.

6. Men: Short life expectancy. Highest number of homeless people. Highest number of prisoners. Highest number of school dropouts. Longer jail term. Highest number of work casualties. So, what are men enjoying actually?

7. Do you know how many men from yester years has losed their lives as a result of war? If women were truly hated, they would have gone alongside with men to wage war and bring prisoners. But the love men has for women and children, women aren't conscripted, after all, they are the weaker sex.

8. You lots, women and feminists should be grateful to men, had it been possible, you lots would have gone into oblivion long time ago assuming males can reproduce on their own.

"Abeg getat".

Edited: God blamed Adam her husband.

ubunja:
@bolded,, human males becoming cuter lately is actually because of what you mention in your first paragraph: "That is, if women are more beautiful than men, it is because men preferred beauty in women",

take your statement and run it backwards,
"That is, if MEN are more beautiful than WOMEN, it is because WOMEN preferred beauty in MEN".

Male beauty is finally manifesting because for the first time WOMEN are getting the power to CHOOSE the men they want,,, thanks to female empowerment humans are gradually going back to the jungle blueprint. Women more and more are making looks a priority because they're now becoming financially independent and they don't have to tolerate ugly men with money.

The more women get their choosing power the more males will become attractive and women become (a little bit less) attractive.

What do you think?

Anyways,, I spoke on this in this 2018 miseducation: "men almost became more beautiful than women" :
https://www.nairaland.com/4350799/ubunjas-miseducation-men-almost-became

1. Like you said some thousand pages ago on this thread, "there is a social change taking place and as men/humans we must try and adapt to it". However, this adaptation will not be easy because humans currently living didn't evolved with traits suited for their current environment: genome lag or genetic disequilibrium. We are no longer living in caves and huts, a lot of things has changed so fast since the advent of science and technology.

2. Recently, I've been using social media as a lens to peruse the intersexual dynamics. And I must say that the advent of social media has really brought an enlightenment and also an imbalance to the intersexual field.

If women starts selecting for aesthetic men(beauty not physique) because they've gained financial freedom, definitely future generations of men will look more attractive. (One highlight about the AFCON tournament I love is the beauty of Egyptians players and their male fans and same with Tunis players and their male fans).

But if you also observe, it seems as men are becoming more attractive as their female counterparts, they are becoming less physically dominant, assertive and brave. Even muscularity is declining as well as the testosterone levels. Conversely, women are becoming less feminine by the day as they become more financially dependent and less dependent on masculine males. In other words, in our world of today, men are turning feminine, while women are turning masculine.

3. I still believe that no social engineering can obliterate the human psyche rooted in them millions ago, and since evolution is a gradual process, it will still take some thousand years or even millions to develope new traits.

So, even if women are selecting attractive mates, they will still prefer male dominance long run. And as the nature of the economy is taking different turns, though men will need financially independent women but they will still choose feminity all days. Therefore, modern women that will win the lottery are those that can luckily hit an attractive male with good physique and positive masculinity. Conversely for the men, financially buoyant women with positive feminity. Rare combinations indeed!

Thanks.

Emmynator:
I would have called it a pseudoscientific swindle, like the concept of IQ, but there is nothing scientific about it. Funny thing is that they use date to arrive at signs, lmaoooo, i have a friend whom i share birthday with, we are like fire and ice, our personality is so different, but if we were both believers in zodiac signs, we will still claim to have the same sign, why you may wonder, this happens for the following reasons. (you may think there are contradictory, but we do hold many contradictory beliefs as humans).

1. People are more alike than they think (i.e an attribute of one zodiac sign, maybe common in majority of people).
2. What people believe about themselves, or what they would like to believe, doesn’t vary much from person to person. (some of the attributes of a particular zodiac signs, feel nice to have, so people want to attach to it).
3. Each person is convinced that he or she is unique (i think this is one of the main selling points of zodiacs signs, the feel good idea that the constellations have an effect over you, it makes you feel unique and special).
4. People are very bad judges of personal behavior/characters (one of the main reason people are ignorant of their bad behaviors, and think themselves better than average. There's something called better than average syndrome, people think themselves better lovers or friends, more honest etc than they truly are, that's why it hurts when that bubble is busted).

Betting on these three things, the soothsayer makes a gamble that usually pays off. Because one can speak in generalities that apply to just about anyone, and because nobody thinks that there is anything “general” about them, one doesn’t require any magic powers to give a reading that feels detailed, precise, and true to the willing recipient.

Forget people saying they believe it, it is shit.

Temperaments is a sham, but it qualifies as a pseudoscientific swindle, because it criteria for qualification is not based on something as fickle and random as date of birth. If one can be 25% of each 4 temperaments, then there is no point of it, except to put behaviors into groups, since some behaviors are more likely to appear in a person that already have one of them, that's just it. So someone saying "I am sanguine, that's how we are" is just looking for an excuse to be where he or she is.

This is not exactly in line with the purpose of the thread, so i should have kept it short, but it is what it is, maybe we can learn somethings from it.

Of course, @bolded 2, we can learn that IQ, @bolded 1 is not a pseudoscience. Because the concept of IQ is the study with the most highest number of replications and samples in the field of psychology. In fact, genome wide association study and polygenic risk scoring are coming up with good research in attempting the genomes responsible for IQ. The size of the brain, the branching of the nerve cells, volume of grey matter, volume of white matter, SAT scores, ACT scores and others has been used to quantify the concept of IQ.

There are more to this but I will stop here. However, know that the concept of IQ is real except you belong to the blank slate theory.

On the otherhand, nothing like zodiac signs only personality traits.

Thanks.

Skepticus:
I highly doubt the emboldened, though, I understand your point, as the present sociocultural narrative portray female humans as being cuter than male humans. Michael J Ryan, in his book, A Taste for Beauty:The Evolution of Attraction described the Female Choice: where in certain animal species, the females selected for beauty. Same have been observed in humans and our ape cousins: Bonobo Monkeys and Western Gorillas where females selected (or chose) male species for their beauty. Factors like the ability to acquire resources, or aggression to acquire territory wasn't ruled out though.

According to Steve Stewart Williams in his book: The Ape that understood the universe, he said that "each of the human specie evolved to develop traits that were preferred by the other"(emphasis added). That is, if women are more beautiful than men, it is because men preferred beauty in women. And if men are stronger and more muscular than women, it is because women preferred strength in men. Beauty signifies good health and quality offsprings while strength signifies protection of these children.

I agree with Ubunja on females more beautiful than the male species, and I say this from physical observation and online observation---this also supports the evolutionary claims written by Steve Stewart. But I have also observed that the human males are getting beautiful too, and I guess parents especially men are doing a great deal since the year 2000 in selecting beautiful women to mate with.

Thanks.

Ketapu:
I think I've explained in my reply where I differentiated between wanting and needing a lady.

If you are already a high value man, for example, you are already a popular celebrity, you are very rich and everyone knows it or can see it, or you already hold a significant position in the society, definitely, you don't need to do much work in getting women. A lot of women will come to you, both the good and the bad. It is left to you to different.

If you don't belong to any of the categories of guys I listed above, you have works to do if you want to have different options for females.

True!

Ketapu:
Rollo that said "let girls come to you" was also the one that further wrote "if you do pursue, do so in a calculated way."

In essence, as you are letting girls come to you (waiting for green lights), you too can also approach the girls you like (cold approaching). I'm in support of both.

Like I said before, both has their pros and cons and even though I do cold approach in a while, chosen is the best.

Ketapu:
Why are you focusing on one part of the advice and neglecting the other part that supports going for the ladies you like IN A CALCULATED WAY?

Can you also explain what he meant by "if you do pursue, do so in a carefully calculated way: pursue and retreat, pull and push"

Careful calculation here can mean:

1. As a man you need to understand women's nature and know how to finagle your way around them.

2. If a man needs to be careful and calculated when approaching women it therefore means that his mathematical prowess must increase so that the woman will remain attached to him after accepting his proposal. Here, the man is the one pinning for the relationship, he is the one making careful calculations to get a woman and keep her and definitely, you can't tell me that the man doing the careful calculation is the one that has power in that relationship.

First of all Rollo said "don't chase...but if you do chase..." Originally, women ought to be the one coming to a man... "let girls come to you..." because whether you want or need her, she gains more from you. Letting girls come to you already means that they have genuine desire(you can vet easily), and they will be the one doing careful calculations to stay with you and invest high on the relationship.

Ketapu:
I have definitely showed in my comments that even though I cold approach, I use the tactics of "pursue and retreat, pull and push."

That tactics work well on ladies that pretend they don't like you.

For those ladies, show them you want them by wooing and telling them your mind (i.e pull). If they start pretending, leave them alone (i.e push).

I know at least 4 ladies who contacted me between 6 months and 1 year after I PUSHED them out of my life when they started playing games with me. Even though I blocked them on all channels of communication, these ladies still used a different phone number to contact me months later after they noticed I'm not ready to unblock them.

That is an example of pulling and pushing.

There's no denial about what you've explained. However, this is the social media age, and this method isn't really efficient as I see it ought to come after..."let girls come to you".

Ketapu:
I also explained yesterday that Rollo exposed the feminine imperative to give the power to choose to only women. That feminine imperative don't want you to have the ability to choose.
They don't want you to have options. A man without option is a powerless man in the sexual market place.

Waiting for only greenlights is perfect for limiting your options. You are enabling women to be the only choosers in the sexual market place.

When you are only waiting for green lights before you approach a lady, you are unconsciously supporting that feminine imperative.

Looool.

Cold approaching women even help in enhancing that imperative. It gives women an easy opportunity to screen out men easily that satiates their hypergamy. Now, instead of women doing careful calculations to check if a man will need them, men do the careful calculations and once they fail before women or women don't like them, they go into oblivion. It kills whatever mystery the cold approacher might have behind the mask. But a woman showing greenlight is careful because she doesn't know the reaction of the man, and here, the sexual burden turns on her.

Once an employer screens you out, no chance with you again except by chance. And if you're lucky with other vacancies elsewhere, you will still need careful calculations to not upset the management. Ditto when you approach women.

Ketapu:
Let me ask you: How many ladies give you green lights per day, week, month or even year? How many of those green lights have you approached?

Looool.

In the current place I am, there are enough greenlights and same with my former place. But you know what, not every greenlights you'll convert into sex, reason because you don't shit were you eat. However, it is so unfortunate I don't take counts and numbers.

Ketapu:
The major reason I eventually took the green lights argument seriously was because most guys here saying wait for green lights ARE JUST TOO AFRAID TO COLD APPROACH. THEY ARE JUST HIDING BEHIND THE CURTAIN OF WAITING FOR GREEN LIGHTS.

If you see a lady you like and she is not giving any green lights, approach her to see how things go. Don't be afraid to take your chance.

In his book, Rollo also advice to spin plates before you finally commit. Spinning plates means having different options of females.

Please, go to page 86 of his book, The Rational Male. He explained "the plate theory" there.

I don't see how you will have different plates if you are not putting in the efforts yourself.

So, yeah.
Let girls come to you (waiting for green light)
You too should go to girls you like (cold approach).
Don't use "waiting for green light" to cover up your fear to cold approach.

What if I say the major reason you cold approach many women in a week is because you lack sexual discipline and can't wait patiently for a woman to bring sex to you as you carry out your work.

What if I say you cold approach many women in a week because you are jobless. Because a man that is productive will not have time to be counting the number of women he approached and will definitely accept him.

What if I say you cold approach because you have never known what genuine desire means and you're trying to force a woman to like you.

Push and pull is just a rationalization to cover all of these lapses when cold approaching.

Hope you now see the other side of the game.

Ketapu:
Don't let women be the only choosers in the sexual market place. You too should have the ability to choose.

In the intersexual dynamics, no beating around the bush, women are the choosers. However, it is extremely expedient that men vet the kind of women they will commit to.

Ketapu:
Lastly, concerning genuine desire. Rollo also wrote in his book that: Genuine desire is non-negotiable.

When a lady has genuine desire for you, she will make everything easy for you. Whether you cold approach or you approach after green light, a lady that has genuine desire for you will let you know as soon as possible that she share similar interests with you.

If she gives you green lights and you approach and woo her, she will accept without any issue.

If you cold approach a lady and you tell her your mind, the lady will let you know immediately that she also shares similar interest with you.

I have met both type of ladies and I still connects with them till today.

I agree.

Ketapu:
And what do you mean by trial and error? I see what you're trying to do. You guys are quite funny in trying to disprove cold approaching.

Is approaching a lady after she gave you greenlight not trial and error? Or have you not heard about guys who got rejected after they saw the so-called greenlights? I've read several times on this thread where guys got rejected after they saw the green lights.

You definitely can't change my mind concerning cold approaching. Stop trying.

Yes, some greenlights may not convert to sex, but every greenlights indicates sex.

Like I replied heartofcity12 before, both theories comes with their pros and cons. But greenlight as it indicates genuine desire is better.

I'm not trying to change your mind bro because it's almost impossible for adults to do so except by their own volition. In fact I was the one that invited you to the discussion because I already know your stand. What I'm doing is also laying my claims alongside yours.

Thanks for your response.

Have a nice day.

RikudoSennin:
Gracias LEGEND! Apologies for replying the email late.

Alright.

Ketapu:
My reply
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I'm not satisfied with your response as you didn't dealt with each line but one.

This is Rollo Tomassi saying "let girls come to you". What is your take on it?

And what's also your take on genuine desire from women? And is genuine desire based on trial and error---numbers method?

Thanks.

heartofcity12:
Cold approaching ladies doesn’t make you beta, some ladies even admire the confidence that comes with that. She’s either in for you or not. Everyone should do what they are comfortable with as we can’t always agree on the same things. I’m personally cool with both ‘chosen’ and ‘cold approach done moderately and strategically’. There are different theories out there, choose what suits you.

Whether chosen or cold approach, at least no one can deny their accompanied pros and cons. However, what I'm really interested in your posts is the bolded. And on that, I disagree!

If people should do what makes them feel comfortable and best suits them, then there is no thing as "truth". Even the REDPILL in that same line of thought is not even true. There will be no term as "simps" because simping is comfortable with them regardless of how minimum or maximum they do it. Entitlement mentality, female grandiosity, feminism are very comfortable with the modern women in their numbers because it suits them best and more preferable amidst other theories.

Definitely, not everyone will stay under one canopy because of genetic and cultural differences but that doesn't means that because one should be comfortable with whatever lie he chooses that truth doesn't exists or should go into oblivion.
Truth is bitter for a reason. And what appears truer among other theories is the truth and that humans must become comfortable with by putting their sentiments aside---extremely difficult though because lies are comfortable and truth is disastrous.

Thanks.

Tonnyray:
On the issue of apologies, (yes this is directed strictly to those with the intention of getting married and building a home), if you genuinely offend your wife (or even your child) and you realize it, do not be too cocky to apologize. I'll cite a personal story.

As a child (primary 5 or 6) our house-help was washing the gutters outside (within the compound). She then asked me to open the kitchen tap so the water current could help with the job which I did. My Dad (now of blessed memory) walked into the kitchen, saw the water "wasting" and roared for who left it running. I quickly rushed to tell him but before I could fully explain why, I got a knock on my head that almost had my brains spilling out from my ears It took the house-help herself to quickly shout from where she was that she asked me to. All the while I was still dazed wondering what hit me or who summoned Sango the god of thunder. Immediately my Dad knew, he simply walked off. It was days later while my mom was routinely checking my hair for lice (it was a constant war she fought while were kids ) that she discovered the scar and asked me how it happened and I explained. She simply hugged me from behind and apologized for the incident. The point here is that incident marked a downward spiral in my relationship with my Dad. A barrier was erected immediately that took decades to pull down. It was a very impressionable age, and even the excuse that African men do not apologize did absolutely nothing to assuage anything, maybe even exacerbated the building resentment.
So please by all means use wisdom in this regard. When you are wrong, there is nothing wrong in sincerely owning up to it.
It can prevent many years of unnecessary wounds, scars and hurt.

My humble take.

1. True. Own your mistakes and apologize where necessary.

But wait! This doesn't really work that way in the intersexual dynamics. Women love unapologetic males. Being unapologetic oozes confidence on a micro to macro scale. How?

2. Why do women still stick to their abusive boyfriends? Stockholm syndrome, female. Hybristophilia, female. Men having higher numbers of women from time immemorial: warriors and tyrants. In fact, these men are the minority of males that were able to mate with the majority of women and able to pass their genes, many of our male ancestors that once existed never were opportuned to pass their genes because they weren't as strong as their other male counterparts.

3. That now leads us to why women hate/dislike nice guys? Because nice guys always don't want to hurt these feminine angels; women are fragile, so going against them hard and hurting their feelings is too mean, hence, they always apologize so that she won't feel hurt and the conduit of sexual intercourse will not block. Women are like that because they were structured to seek dominant males for their protection and that of their offsprings, and a man apologizing every seconds, now and then, signifies low testosterone level.

4. Even in politics, that is on a macro scale, corrupt politicians don't apologize to the masses whether in office or out of office. It is a game of power; power doesn't care about morality, however, that doesn't mean everything must be run to the drain. But take note, once these politicians begin to apologize, even the weakest among the masses will feel more better than them and together the mobs will come hitting hard on them. Simply put: people respect individuals that are unapologetic, do what they want to do and don't give a hoot about what others feel. This may not be the right way of living or morally acceptable, but it is what it is. And this doesn't justify tyranny and lack of empathy.

5. There might be similarities between male and female but it is their differences that truly sets these species apart. And as a result of these differences, a man will apologize differently from the way a woman will apologize.

A. Unapologetic and confident men do it by acting cocky and funny or playfully without acting like a whim because ego must be protected; not considering ego at all, he loses his dominance and alter himself into a doormat.

B. On the other hand, female will apologize like a child either by crying, begging, kneeling down or all of the above. Why? Because they depend on the dominance of the male, it signifies submissiveness on their part as men don't need women who are on the same level with them in hardness and aggressiveness. And these women are the first to always get the upper side of men because men are lured easily by femininity---fake or real.

C. When a woman apologize to a man it is like a child looking up to his mother, full of beauty and innocence. And mothers will not act as women as to men but as men when apologizing to their kids. This is all about heirarchy and differences amongst men, women and children.

6. Mr Tonnyray, what you are not really comfortable about the REDPILL is its generalizations, were you stick to the exceptions. However, the exceptions doesn't cancel the rule. What happens on a large scale in different demography is what counts; and as they say "majority always win the vote".

Thanks

Alright, this is: DAY 34, REDPILL 2022

PS: RikudoSennin, food is ready.

RikudoSennin:
Brother CaveAdullam, I know you got hacked sometime ago but I love reading your nuggets when I wake up in the morning. It is a dosage I love taking in the morning not afternoon. Can you please look into posting them early In the morning please?

Thanks.

Brother RikudoSennin, if you read my posts about two days ago, a response to Tonnyray, you will read where I stated that those robbers "nearly sent me passed my village"...(forget bro code, "walahi", if I catch those boys real life, I will plank them to...).

Until I get a better device, I think the posts will be coming late. You can even notice it.

PS: "Uncle, it's that time of the day, I need to gan hustle urgent 2k and do my waiter's job in joy to quickly get a good device". Once I'm able, I will be back to normal.

"Lest I forget, for the main time gan look for fresh breasts and a$$ you will be waking up to see. Loooooool. Leave me alone ooooo".

Looool.

machote:
He will learn his lesson obviously and you're right "Simping is in categories"

But let's not forget that as men(and as brothers), we need to help each other however we can. If the waiter were to have that "he should getat mindset", then we all know things would have gone sideways.

Someone people here on this forum learnt their lesson the hard way, some by prevention by other people through their actions or teachings. We all learn differently.

The point is:
WE ARE ALL HERE TO SAVE EACH OTHER FROM OURSELVES THROUGH LEARNING FROM EACH OTHER AND HAVING EACH OTHER'S BACKS.

The topic is always exhilarating when it is about women, but we tend to shy away and corner ourselves when men are being dissected on that same table. I kid you not, average man and woman are alike especially in their personality traits.

What happened there is manipulation. But the question is: will the waiter had prevented the man from buying an expensive drink if it was his male friend?

What I'm driving at is that manipulation is manipulation, but will see it as a big deal when it involves intersexual relationship and neglect it when it comes to friends and families.

Yeah, as men, we grow by helping one another because no human is truly/plainly independent!

Thanks.

heartofcity12:
#trp

And it miraculously appeared beneath Ketapu essay.

Ketapu, what do you have to say about the first line and half? I do understand your claims on the other lines. (At least this one is coming from Rollo Tomassi).

Martinez39s:
Nairaland, Google and WhatsApp are my only social media for a long time now. Please, redpillers wey dey Instagram should confirm this. The only thing I know is that Greenwood has been released on bail.

You forgot to add anointing oil and YouTube.

machote:
BRO CODE PRO MAX

Simping is in categories.

He's happy because a male waiter spoilt the chances of him getting exploited by his date rather than stand up and walk out of that premises. Only beta males condole such foolery from women. No frame at all! Probably, he must have been wrecked days ago by the pvssy.

Besides, the waiter wouldn't do this if it was his business, however, he is still a bad PRO, because manipulations stems from both ends---male and female. Men do buy expensive drinks and do the unimaginable in parties because of pride and laudations. So, he also has to stop these men from "declaring...do ri me...casket stuffs" when with other men to express ultimate bro code.

This is business and if you get in the way stupidly, you will be treated as a pawn. No mercy! If I was the waiter, I will bring the most expensive drinks...my salary and promotion is dependent on the sales I make. This is real life!

He should "getat" abeg.

Junnior:
Over 90% of women don't even have the balls to cold approach guys. So, I see nothing wrong in guys doing it, provided they don't kiss ass while at it. I believe it's mostly for fun though.

Do you know that if most guys quit cold approach, their body count would drastically reduce? They would be greatly limiting themselves to opportunities.
So, it's important that we find a way to balance doing both cold and hot approach concurrently and within the available time.

For the records, despite male horniness and sexual promiscuity, sexual intercourse is dropping for the male folks daily. More men are taking a bow out of the sexual market because it has been seriously deregulated.

Men recording higher body counts via cold approaching are simping for pvssy most of the times as their TEAR(Tear, Energy, Attention, Resources) gets parted away in exchange. Other men recording higher body counts is via "warm approaching": Prostitutes.

I agree with your points though.

Tonnyray:
I'm trying to get this right;
I'm entering a shopping mall and a Xoli Mfeka booty sashays out unaccompanied.
I retrace my steps immediately, walk up to her, introduce myself and collect her details.. and that makes me weak and not the prize
What am I expected to do? Say "one man is tired of this pvssy?" lmfao
I should rather respond to the evergreen lights flashing continually in my office by regular and temporary (NYSC) female staff neh? or that of members of my new church and end up in a Sammie Okposogate?
Who says there is no "choosing" in cold approaches? You think a 7+ chick gives out her number to every Sule, Rasheed and Mufutau?
"I don't give my number to strangers" is the biggest lie from the pits of hell, he's just not her spec, period.
And collecting a chick's number is just the very first step in hitting the coochie.. there are so many other possible steps in-between.
Where do I even begin on this topic?
Dayum

You have already satisfied hypergamy unknowingly to you. Broke dudes like me don't go to a SHOPPING MALL BRO. "except say na pishure we come take or follow person come there".

Your dress code can satisfy hypergamy.

Your accent can satisfy hypergamy.

Your physique and looks can satisfy hypergamy.

Your wrist watch, phone and shades can satisfy hypergamy.

Even some kind face cap can satisfy hypergamy.

Hypergamy anchors to what's higher than her. And once she senses it, SHE WILL GIVE YOU HER NUMBER...CHATS WILL FLOW IF SHE SENSES MORE THAT YOU ARE WAY HIGHER THAN THE SIMPS ORBITING HER.

Hahahahahaha.

Calibrator:
People think that I am lying whenever I say the last time I toasted a girl was in 2013.


They will be like all these girls flocking around you, how do you do it?


No dey loud am.
I just go about my grind and one way or another, my body satellite dish is always on to pick up greenlight signals from the opposite sex.


Though I have to admit, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and those who throw themselves at you might not be your spec on a regular day but a man gotta do what a man gotta do


Going after and maintaining a relationship with your spec is one sure way to lose frame and the genesis of oneitis.

Not your spec, but at least she unveils her true side and will try to make the relationship work until it pass the cliff point.

At this angle, you can mould a woman, that is, you can mould her into what you want and it is easy because she is the one pinning for you.

Thanks.

NeroStealth01:
If you have ever been chosen by a woman before even if it is just once, you will never ever find cold approaching interesting. It would be a great waste of your precious time.

If a woman has ever wanted you so badly before, you will know that women also SIMP in great heights as bluePILLED men.
A woman who chooses you will call you every blessed day without even worrying or complaining about you not reciprocating.

If you have experienced being chosen before, cold approaching will bore you. Trying to impress a girl to like you will feel so stupid and abnormal.

You will never have to use a punch a line when she chooses you. You can do no wrong in the face of a woman who chooses you.
She will hug you on the first date. If you try to kiss her she won't resist you. She won't make you wait for anything.

When she chooses you, you don't have to take her to a fancy restaurant to impress her. Merely seeing your face alone she is already impressed, to the extent that she won't even notice the environment of the first date.

When you have experienced being chosen, you will never ever deal with low interest women again.

So much to talk about so little time. With all that has been preached here, there is still a lot to be learned.
If you want to do things the way you have always done it before coming to the REDPILL, then there is no reason to be here.

#TAKETHEREDPILL
#STAYREDPILLED
#STAYCOLD

Genuine desire will make a pastor's first daughter to fvck you under her father's roof. It doesn't care about strict father or moral obligations. Or, whether her free is fast sleeping, praying or preaching sermons. She will first do what's in her mind before considering all these.

Genuine desire will list more than 10 names of guys on her bedsheet but tick you as the one she wants. Meanwhile, you're not even as close to other guys in that rank.

Genuine desire will cry when you make mention of other women. She will fight these women in her imaginations.

Forget it, genuine desire doesn't care about a good place for a date. She will eat unripe plantain and oil sauce with you in your house plus boobs and a$$ to play with. Yummy!

Genuine desire always bring sex and romance to your doorstep.

The times I have been chosen by women is the best time I have had with women. No shenanigans! Smooth as sleek!

Looool.

Smartb0y:
Cold approaching is for men that don't see themselves as the prize.

They still have a long way to go

True but not really that way bro.

Men are very lustful, eternally doom by horniness and will not want to miss any slight opportunity with a particular woman, hence, will approach. Remember: men have a short life expectancy and with great workload and will like to quickly maximize the opportunities for reproducing many offsprings which makes them to always approach these women.

However, this is an instinct we must lay our hands on and control.

luminouz:
Looks like today is gonna be interesting...

Cold Vs Hot Approach Debate

Well, is there no lukewarm?


I like both arguments...my take is you have to be sensitive to her moods when doing cold approach. Trust me, you don't wanna approach a woman with menstrual pain

Funny thing is that a woman that has chosen you will come with her menstrual pad and flow to your room. At day other men will receive curses but at night, she'll be the one acting submissively. Real life bro!

LoL.

JESHAL:
Cold approaching is a fools errand, a move for the desperate and weak, typical of the masses even rich Simps use the muscle of their resources but the issue is that most men that engage in it based on emotions( lust or affection) instead of emotional detachment, the issue is that men shoot their shots either randomly at different women or targeting a specific demographic of women whom you deem your spec either in beauty( fine face, fair skin) or attractive body ( breast and ass), calibrate your cold approach to women who you are more attractive than i.e ugly or average looking girls, poor or average income girls especially when you don't have the means, they reject you it doesn't hurt at all since they are beneath you, approaching a hot baddy or your spec will make you emotionally invested since you like her or her beauty, it clouds your judgement and reason and you then begin to chase and simp

It doesn't really worked that way bro. Men want young, beautiful and fertile women. While women want strong, beautiful and resourceful men. You'll never take an ugly woman serious same way a woman will never think of a poor man twice for a long term relationship: Evolutionary wise.

Not approaching beautiful women stems out of insecurity I must say. But you can also beat it by your status: real or fake it, because women are very superficial and myopic. But does pvssy really worth it?

Withal, once you starts approaching from the low(ugly), you'll definitely starts desiring the HB7 to HB10, no rationalization about this.

Why I dislike approaching is that that girl you're pinning for is simping stupidly for one nigga that you are probably better than. That alone is a turn off for me when approaching, it makes me feel less of a prize, and of course approaching women already elevates their sense of pride as if they worth something really tangible.

Beautiful women simps, but only for men they have chosen. However, I agree with you on where men will simp for beautiful women.

Raalsalghul:
Even your immediate family sees you as a slave and tool, but theirs is more tolerable because you share the same DNA and maybe they could have your back when chips are down.

I've come to that level where I don't see exception to these things: family or not.

Incentives rules the human mind. You are only as useful as what you provide. Simple!

Even you and I uses this as a yardstick when associating with people and picking material and non material resources.

Evolution has already shaped men to be shoulders to lean on, hope to wait for, leaders that guards and a sage that direct. It is a curse burden because no one looks up to a man that can't fulfil these but also a blessing because without men fulfiling all of these, the world stays on halt! The key then is to become this why watching your sides as a man.

Thanks.

DieRich5:

This works two ways: hypergamy responds to what's higher than her, hence, making her think twice before replacing a man entirely when he is a surer bet compared to where she's heading for. On the otherhand, it becomes detrimental to the man if all he does is to please her so that she won't replace him. Hypergamy will always do what pleases her though.
Thereafter, classifying males into boys and men supports the second facts. It is not an attempt to encourage younger males/boys to wrestle with all that fetters them to grow into mature men, but to become mature men that will simp for women.

On the flip side, one good side about hypergamy is that it shapes men to become better. Strong muscles, higher status, large territory, many resources etc. are instinctual demands of hypergamy, hence, to get women, man's instinct was shaped to get all of these things in the right place. But on a conscious level, with thorough reasoning, men says "they do all of these to better themselves and not to get women per say".

Thanks.

Tonnyray:
On point.
How've you been bro?

Shits hits the fan bro! Life is a madwoman!

Not how I envisaged my 2022 monk mode, but these theives nearly sent me passed my village. LoL! Still figuring things out gradually.

I shall don't want to hear "thief, thief"...because in this season of violence...

Oga Tonnyray, I rest my case.

ibkonekt:
The desire a man has for a woman is in her secrecy, a woman may have slept with other men before and it wouldnt matter as much to you. But the moment you can put a face, a name, an image to how another man bent her over spanked her, and dominated her...its almost always over. Men are territorial primal, that nature will never leave. Once the illusion is broken then the desire is gone for a high value man

Kiss and tell reduces a woman's sexual value as it increases that of men. No equality!

And that's why women hates kiss and tell guys. If you can fvck, clean mouth and shut up, you can have the pvssy at a go.

And that's also the internal and emotional war non virgin women have with virgin women. The former will paint their faces with different colours to look good despite their degeneracy and always endeavour to make the later look stupid for not participating in such. Since the former can't measure up to standard, they always try to drag those at the top to their middle or bottom floor. Hahahaha...no one wants to enter the abyss alone.

Hahahaha!