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Christianity EtcRe: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by cloudgoddess(f): 9:43am On May 01, 2016
Nmadichi:
Mr HardMirror and friends, let me tell you something you've probably waited to hear from Christians but haven't heard it. It's totally alright for you to once have believed and then decide it's not worth it to you. It's perfectly OK. And this goes to the rest of the atheists here.

Honestly, we don't judge you. We might come off as if we do, but we don't. In all reality, we are trying to wrap our heads around the fact that the glaring truth is still difficult to see, but let's step aside from that shall we?

You are free to tell your story. You are free to think what you want. You really don't need our permission. You also don't need to get an altar and begin ministrations (I mean that's a totally Christian thing to do and you are not one of us, yea)? And by podium, this right here Mr Hardmamn is a desperate attempt by you to "preach" a "gospel" only that it's the "Gospel according to Mr Hardmann". Leave the Christian things for Chriatians, would you?

Before I leave, I want to correct something, for the record. Anybody you know, that is a 'Chriatian' as a result of fear, really doesn't know Christ (I wouldn't be surprised if we dig deeper and realised you have your life in the first place out of fear).

I love giving examples, so here goes one. When you were born, were you afraid of your parents? no. When you started growing up and getting to different levels of responsibilities, did you realise some of your actions were punishable- Yes. Did you try not to do those actions- Yes. Did you still do them- Yes. Did you get forgiven- Yes. Did you become so afraid of your parents it led you to 'do the right thing'-this happened to some people and it did hamper their relationship with their parents!

My point is this, Christianity is born on the foundations of love not fear. Don't mislead the general public.

Your attention seeking posts are good enough, don't add lies on top of it!
Smh undecided
Christianity EtcRe: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by cloudgoddess(f): 9:01pm On Apr 30, 2016
HardMirror:
Remember this is a true life story, everything I say here is the absolute truth, only thing I have not revealed is my name, because I am still a legend in Anglican student fellowship till date, not just in futa but the whole state as I once held a state executive position.

I got to the room where she was (the president's room) there were 3 people praying for this sister. She was wringling on the floor like worm with salt poured on it. The prayer warriors were sweating and visibly tired. I got there sat down and bent over to hold her hands. Immediately I held her hand, she started screaming, but was still crying. She was behaving like someone with the spirit of pyton in her.
I started speaking in tongues. For about 30mins she was still wringling.
I shock her up, asked everybody to stop praying.
I commanded her to stop and open her eyes.
She obeyed. I asked her to seat on the other chair in the room. I could see surprise in her eyes. I repeated my instruction and she obey.
I told her whoever the spirit sets free is free indeed and God has told me she was free. That no matter what she tot, she is already free. I asked everyone to start praising God.

Now this case was peculiar. Why? I learnt something key that day. Once a human sees you as superhuman, they believe anything you tell them and people can be overwhelmed by the presences or words of people they think are directly linked with God.
If I kept praying she would have kept twisting on the floor. But I commanded the nonesense to stop and it stopped. This is not very far from how hypnotism works.
Your subject has to be highly impressionable.
This is most likely what TB joshua knows. Once you see him as an ordinary human, his words won't have any effect on you. But the moment you buy into the whole facade and open your mind to be impressionable, you will end up responding to everything such a man says and end up misbehaving
YES! Perception is everything.
Christianity EtcRe: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by cloudgoddess(f): 8:21pm On Apr 30, 2016
Strawman:
Nothing you type on Nairaland will alter anybody's religious beliefs even in the slightest.

Just saying...
You must be new to the internet.
Christianity EtcRe: If Evolution Was Untrue. by cloudgoddess(op): 11:09pm On Apr 29, 2016
UyiIredia:
Incmpleteley assembled animals and the likes. Random mutations cannot make an organism perfect from the start yet all so-called transitional are perfectly formed species in their own right.
Sigh sad

So are you ever going to actually read a legitimate book on evolutionary biology, or are you just going to keep arguing from ignorance forever?
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Counseling Student Expelled For Refusing To Counsel Gay Couples by cloudgoddess(f): 2:21pm On Apr 28, 2016
Good. Bigotry should not be tolerated at any public institution.
Christianity EtcRe: Child Indoctrination by cloudgoddess(f): 2:16pm On Apr 28, 2016
I agree.

If childhood indoctrination suddenly became illegal, the major world religious would likely see a tremendous decline in adherents, if not total collapse within a few generations. This is because the powerful force of indoctrination is the only thing that keeps many people unquestioningly dedicated to their religions. Without it, people are free to explore science and other realms of thought, without guilt, fear of familial/societal rejection, religious bias clouding all their perceptions, or fear of hell - all which are just a few of the various factors that keep indoctrinated people subconsciously entrenched in & dedicated to their belief systems.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Masturbate? by cloudgoddess(f): 1:59pm On Apr 28, 2016
DANO1011:
is not about touching your genitals, is all about the thoughts that comes with it!
And about owning slaves is not a sin, where did you get that facts from?, cause it sounds opposite to the doctrine of Christianity which ranks every man equal before God!
In other words, thinking of other human beings sexually, while touching your genitals, is a sin, while slavery is not. That makes it better? (By the way, it is very possible to masturbate without imagining any other person.)

Masturbation is a natural biological function that even children, chimpanzees, & bonobos have been examined doing. It's a healthy signal of puberty. It makes absolutely no sense to consider such a natural aspect of human sexuality as something worthy of an eternity in hell. Especially, as I said before, when things like slavery, the stoning of children & women, and mass genocide, go uncondemned in the bible. Here are just a few instances of the first.

Leviticus Chapter 25, verse 44:
"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."

Exodus Chapter 21, verse 1:
"Now these are the ordinances which you shall set before them. When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master's and he shall go out alone. But if the slave plainly says, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,' then his master shall bring him to God, and he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost; and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl; and he shall serve him for life."

Leviticus Chapter 22, verse 10:
"No one outside a priest's family may eat the sacred offering, nor may the guest of a priest or his hired worker eat it. But if a priest buys a slave with money, or if a slave is born in his household, that slave may eat his food."
The reason you did not know that slavery is uncondemned, and even glorified/encouraged by your own holy text, is because it is common practice for Christians (& Muslims, but I'll stay on topic) to CHERRYPICK - choose the portions of the text that support a certain perception of their religion that is culturally or personally acceptable to them, and ignore all of the questionable, inaccurate, or inhumane parts in the text. Pastors are the leaders of this cherry-picking practice.

If you want to really get to know your religion, read the entire book, cover to cover, with as much of an unbiased, objective lens as you can muster. Then see for yourself if you still think it's the pinnacle of human guidance.
Christianity EtcRe: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by cloudgoddess(f): 6:34am On Apr 28, 2016
ifenes:
Christians will keep deceiving themselves. Hell fire is a metaphor for the suffering which results from not achieving a proper mental/psychological growth. It is a state one puts his/herself if not in alignment with him/her true self.
I like this idea.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Masturbate? by cloudgoddess(f): 6:22am On Apr 28, 2016
So according to Christianity touching your own genitals is a sin but owning slaves is not. huh

It's hard to imagine how any sound-minded person can fail to see the incongruency & nonsensicality of such values. But, that is the power of indoctrination. It saps people dry of their reasoning faculties.
Christianity EtcRe: If Evolution Was Untrue. by cloudgoddess(op):
ElCount:
sorry your evolution theory is a DUD
Again, you've proved you're not knowledgable on it's basic points and refuse to learn, so you're in no place at all to make any judgment on it's validity.

What you're doing is the equivalent of me having not read a single book on astrophysics and then trying to spout that microwave radiation is made up. You're arguing from ignorance and it's making you look foolish.

I don't know why the emphasis on gay, are you? Anyway

*If your parents were gay would you have existed?
*If all of mankind decides to be gay, what better definition would you give to extinction?
*If we were to go by your evolution theory, what if your ancestors turned out gay what would have become of the evolution process?
Wow, the gay references really went over your head. Their purpose was to point out the ridiculousness of the idea that the creator of the entire universe and all of the millions of species on earth, would view homosexual behavior amongst a single primate species as a valid reason to destroy all life on the planet. It sounds eerily like something an egotistical man-baby with middle-eastern 1st century values would do. Certainly not an all-knowing, all-loving, infinitely understanding god.
Christianity EtcRe: If Evolution Was Untrue. by cloudgoddess(op): 12:29am On Apr 27, 2016
ElCount:
they are all indoctrinated militants spewing illogical statements without so much as a little scrutiny
...psychological projection of the highest order. How can you say this, given your stance on things? How can you genuinely believe atheists are the ones deserving of such labels, but not you? It is like, you took the precise statement that would apply to you and those who agree with you, and flipped it on the people it would least apply to. Masterful projection, I've never seen anything like this.

Applying critical thought to your beliefs then renouncing them is literally the reversal of indoctrination. Comparing modern scientific knowledge to the 2,000 year old Hebrew scripts you were read as a child and deciding the former made more sense, is the definition of using scrutiny. Moreover, there is nothing at all illogical about accepting the idea of "generations upon generations of environment-directed genetic change leading to new organisms over millions of years," over the idea that "an emotional, invisible, supernatural man who hates gay sex, used the power of his words to poof all of the different species on earth all at once, because he wanted to give humans stuff to rule over and eat. and also he drowned all those species later when people were having too much gay sex. even though he knew it would happen because he knows everything. but he was still pissed off."

Also, the following show that even after all of the discourse in this thread, my OP, and links/resources I provided, you still don't understand what evolution actually involves and need to read up more on this topic if you want to have even the slightest idea what you're talking about:
If we all evolved from a rock (prebiotic soup)...
Abiogenesis... not evolution. And rocks are not the same as prebiotic soup - different chemical constituents. Read up.

how then did we come to know that lying, murder, false witness etc is wrong
Altruism & kinship... is... observed... in thousands of other... nonhuman species... it confers survival benefit and is thus part of our DNA. Read up.

where the evolutionist have problem is that "if I break this rules what will happen"?
So they are like let's enjoy the rules we like and believe away the existence of God by making a dumb theory for ourselves.
Evolution is not a philosophy... it's a field of biological study concerned with how genetics and the environment interact to create species. There are christians who accept evolution, along with buddhists, taoists, jews, humanists, the list goes on. And not all atheists accept evolution or are even educated on it. Evolution =/= atheism or theism. Read up.

Thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by cloudgoddess(f): 9:59pm On Apr 24, 2016
Fearcom:
My dear, this place is the abode of departed spirits, known as the unrighteous dead. This HELL isn't made from earthly fire! It is an ETERNAL FIRE AND a place of EXTREME TORMENT, where all the water of this world CANNOT QUENCH ..it is filled with demons, worms, flaming burning sulphur(the place stinks), chains and damned spirits.

P.S; your body isn't the real you. Your body is your house, a container or suit for your SPIRIT. Your SPIRIT and SOUL is eternal and cannot die. That's why people continue in a state of full consciousness after they die. The human SPIRIT is made material substance, though not a physical substance, but a substance nevertheless.
What is your evidence for any of these claims? "Revelations verse X" isn't evidence btw.

And if it's not an earthly fire then why does it run on earthly matter (sulfur)..? I'm sorry but something's not adding up.
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, Atheists And The Question Of The Source's Source by cloudgoddess(f): 1:42am On Apr 24, 2016
senbonzakurakageyoshi:
Quite a number of atheists believe existence as we know it today either came from the big bang or one of the other lesser known scientific explanations for reality and existence. But unfortunately Theists can nail them with the question - what caused the big bang? And what came before the big bang? That is a question that has gotten no satisfactory answer.
But atheists wouldn't even have to answer this question for their position to still be the more valid and logical one. Even if we had no clue what led to the universe in it's present state, "A Jewish God Yahweh poofed it here in 7 days, then morphed humans out of clay" would STILL be just as unsupported of a claim to make. Just like "The universe is a simulation being run by alien cats", or "A great goat burping the galaxy into existence."

No proof, no acceptance. The atheist position is simply to not accept any claims of a supernatural deity that are unsupported. If theists were saying, "I think some form of a creator deity exists, but I'm aware that could very well be false, or a different entity entirely that's nothing like Yahweh", there would be little need for these discussions. But theists, depending on their specific religions, are putting forth a specific named deity, who supposedly performs specific acts in our world, and insisting that it is absolutely real and true without any doubt. Yet they have not put forth sufficient evidence at all for any reasonable, unindoctrinated person to believe in said deity, so those assertions are rejected by the atheist.

Atheists are not bound to the big bang, or any other idea of how the universe came about. We are willing to change our views on that particular issue based on logical, reliable & un-biased or emotional evidence. Which no religion to date has provided.
RomanceRe: 10 Reasons Why You Shouldn't Indulge In Sex Before Marriage- Danceville by cloudgoddess(f): 2:35am On Apr 23, 2016
Tijay90:
Can people ever stop deceiving themselveshuh... How can you deprive yourself of an in-built biological function?Well, I guess ur childhood indoctrination was solid,& is still at work...but pls let it apply to you alone...you don't go about telling people how to live their lives...PS: if you must avoid premarital sex,please get castrated,or seal your vagina. the urge will remain though...cheers.
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Author Says Female Masturbation Is ‘Direct Path To Satan’ by cloudgoddess(f): 9:54pm On Apr 22, 2016
Nonsensical bafoonery undecided
Christianity EtcRe: If Evolution Was Untrue. by cloudgoddess(op): 2:28pm On Apr 22, 2016
blueAgent:
"Evolution" mixes two things together, one
real, one imaginary. Variation
(microevolution) is the real part. The types
of bird beaks, the colors of moths, leg sizes,
etc. are variation. Each type and length of
beak a finch can have is already in the gene
pool and adaptive mechanisms of finches.
Creationists have always agreed that there is
variation within species. What evolutionists
do not want you to know is that there are
strict limits to variation that are never
crossed, something every breeder of animals
or plants is aware of. Whenever variation is
pushed to extremes by selective breeding (to
get the most milk from cows, sugar from
beets, bristles on fruit flies, or any other
characteristic), the line becomes sterile and
dies out. And as one characteristic increases,
others diminish. But evolutionists want you
to believe that changes continue, merging
gradually into new kinds of creatures. This is
where the imaginary part of the theory of
evolution comes in. It says that new
information is added to the gene pool by
mutation and natural selection to create
frogs from fish, reptiles from frogs, and
mammals from reptiles, to name a few.
Just to be clear, evolution theory puts no
limit on what mutation/natural selection can
invent, saying that everything in nature was
invented by it - everything:
Nope. You still don't properly understand how evolution works and are arguing from that ignorance. Nice try though.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Hellfire Be Morally Justified? by cloudgoddess(f): 2:24pm On Apr 22, 2016
analice107:
You are an Atheist. Why are we even having this discussion? Hell doesn't exist, go ate and drink for tomorrow you die. Finish. End of story.
Nice; lose an argument, dish out a few more condescending cliches & pretend the argument never mattered anyway. Well, I suppose that's all you can do at this point.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Hellfire Be Morally Justified? by cloudgoddess(f): 2:12pm On Apr 22, 2016
analice107:
You have killed reason so you no long have any. Let me take it that you didn't read the illustration @dorox made which I responded to.
Cloudgoddess, It was my mother's prerogative to raise her children as she saw fit. We all turned out very responsible. All of us. Males and females, all responsible. I don't regret how I turn out, so, it's your business if you decides to insult or call my mother names.
I can see how well your mother raised you, If you can talk about God the way you do, I wonder how you deal with people around you.

Cloudgoodness Why was hellfire created and for who was it created?
You have killed reason so you no long have any.
Empty insult. It's quite clear my reasoning is more well thought out than a story equating a mother spicing her children's nether regions, to the (supposed) creator of the universe subjecting his creations to neverending flames.

Let me take it that you didn't read the illustration @dorox made which I responded to.
I did.

Cloudgoddess, It was my mother's prerogative to raise her children as she saw fit.
Just as it's God's prerogative to burn trillions of humans for eternity if they don't subscribe to him, even if doing so contradicts all logic and evidence. I get it. No authority is subject to criticism in your view, regardless of how sadistically they behave.

We all turned out very responsible. All of us.
Oprah turned out responsible, and a billionaire. Doesn't mean the abuse her relatives inflicted on her during childhood was not still abuse.

I can see how well your mother raised you, If you can talk about God the way you do, I wonder how you deal with people around you.
You love to imagine that because atheists & others don't subscribe to your supernatural ideas, they must be terrible people. The irony is that although all groups have their share of as*holes, atheists worldwide seem to act far more civilly than Christians (shown by violence & crime rates, national peace indexes, etc), and they don't need threats of hellfire to do so.

Cloudgoodness Why was hellfire created and for who was it created?
It doesn't, and will never matter what it's original use supposedly was. If Yahweh, who is supposedly capable of doing anything he wants at any moment, is PRESENTLY using hell for a certain purpose, then he still holds responsibility; if he is indeed all powerful, then all uses of hell that were ever put in place were intentionally decided on and maintained by him.
Christianity EtcRe: Free Will And Divine Plan = Irreconcilable And Incompatible. by cloudgoddess(op): 1:52pm On Apr 22, 2016
2cato:
Mr copy and paste whatever arguement i put forward will still be rejected by you. Why not do away with all these destrucive logic and use ur time well in doing positive things that will bring glory to man and GOD
Miss*, and that sentence was incomprehensible.

Under what conditions does logic become destructive? When it unravels a concept you personally subscribe to? huh
Christianity EtcFree Will And Divine Plan = Irreconcilable And Incompatible. by cloudgoddess(op): 4:10pm On Apr 21, 2016
"Many religious people love to talk about how god has a plan for each of us. If we die early, that's god's plan. If we win the lottery, god's plan again. If our baby has cerebral palsy, once again, god's plan. God works in mysterious ways, doesn't it?

Yet then to explain away the evilness of humans, these same religious people use the concept of 'free will', saying that humans were given the power to choose for themselves, and some choose evil.

So I must ask, how can both be true? How can god have a plan for us, AND give us free will? Free will by definition means that we can choose our own path. If we can choose our own path, how can we not change our future depending on the choices we make? If the believer then argues that you can choose a path, but all paths lead to the same place, which is god's plan, then he has contradicted free will. If I have a pre-determined destiny which cannot be changed, then I don't have any power in my own life, my choices ultimately are meaningless, and I never did have free will.

So I argue that both the concept of effective prayer and of free will contradict the concept of a divine plan. Free will and effective prayer do not contradict each other. So believers, you must either throw away the concept of a divine plan, or throw away belief in both the effectiveness of prayer and of free will.

If you choose to throw away the divine plan, then you have to admit that sometimes good things happen, sometimes bad things happen, and it is not determined by god. When bad things happen to good people, such as children being gang-raped, god does not intervene, and didn't plan it either. Sh*t happens, and god doesn't seem to care. Also, it would shorten a lot of post-sports-match interviews, and awards acceptance speeches if we admit that god didn't have anything to do with it.

If you choose to throw away the concepts of effective prayer and free will, then you could save a lot of time and money. Praying for events no longer works, so you can shorten services in churches, and stop giving money to those fraudsters on TV. There is no such thing as free will, so you'll have to admit that god created some people to be evil, and part of its plan is for them to be evil. Why would your supremely-good god create people to be evil? This would surely have an effect on the morality teachings of most religions.

It seems that either of these options would be somewhat devastating for religions. In order to continue, they need all 3 (divine plan, free will and effective prayer) to be true. They're relying on it. And most religious sheep will never figure out that there is a problem with all 3 being true."

Source
Christianity EtcRe: Can Hellfire Be Morally Justified? by cloudgoddess(f):
analice107:
Let me tell you something about my home. You do not, I repeat, do not, pick anything be it money or any other thing and bringing it home to my mother's house. When I was less than 10 was when I learned that lesson, I picked money,
No, I didn't steal it, I picked it, and I thought I was a good child so rough it back home a showed my mum, since it was the first time, My mum followed me to where I said I picked it, she said drop it there, I did, we went back home. Another time, I picked money again, I knew if I showed her, I was going to lose it, so I had it. I bought something with it and I was caught. Gracious Lord!!!! Till I leave this earth I won't forget what my mum did to me. What you described is minimal. She tied me up with a robe and actually put that pepper in my Anus and eyes and kept me in the hot sun, all the while screaming on top of her voice, no child of mine will be a thief. But I was crying and saying, I didn't steal it, she said, you will steal if you don't stop now.
When I was released, I advised myself against picking other things. Till this day, I don't pick things on the road.
And not once throughout your life have you considered other ways she could have effectively taught you that lesson? Burning you and potentially causing serious irritation to delicate body tissues, was necessary for you to learn to respect peoples' things? Your mother was abusive and probably borderline psychotic, and you rejoice for it. This clarifies so much about your way of thinking. You've been desensitized to abuse, so understandably your sense of justice is skewed and inhumane.

And on top of that, this analogy is still lacking because it does not even remotely reflect the hell situation in severity or implication. A more equal comparison would be, instead of putting pepper in your eyes and anus ( lipsrsealed ), your mother splashing petrol on your eyes and anus, lighting them on fire, and repeating this process for literal infinity, with no chance of you returning to a state of non-suffering. Repeated pain and torture for the rest of existence, far longer than any human lifespan. Eternal punishment for a finite crime.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Hellfire Be Morally Justified? by cloudgoddess(f): 12:36am On Apr 21, 2016
So the OP puts forth a perfectly legitimate question, with no sign of bias towards any position and welcomes responses from all perspectives, even acknowledging that the aim is not to dispute hell's existence.

And all he is met with are insufficient reasonings which resort to dogmatic assertions when substantiation is requested, accusations of being angry at God, ridicule, and denial of the value in his question.

This is unfortunately what tends to happen when you ask victims of extreme indoctrination to use their brains for anything other than reinforcing their pre-existing religious beliefs. If your questions might invoke any doubt in the supposed "perfection" of said deity then that is an insult, there is danger there and now they must defend the deity at all costs, like robots. So instead of answers, careful thought & consideration, you get dogged assertions, deflections and irrelevant insults as we see here.

OP I think you asked a very important question, unfortunately the people who need to consider it the most are the most brainwashed and thus the most likely to percieve your question as a threat & an insult for even being asked. Hopefully more open-minded theists respond to this thread and a productive discourse can be had.
Christianity EtcRe: How God Answers Prayers by cloudgoddess(op): 10:02pm On Apr 20, 2016
KGBEAST:
It is from one of his videos, I can give you the link if you are interested.
Oh okay, perhaps the person who wrote the comment was inspired by him? I personally haven't watched most of his videos, only one or two, so I wouldn't know either way. Sure, post the link!
Christianity EtcRe: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by cloudgoddess(f): 2:57pm On Apr 20, 2016
johnydon22:
it's all one deity but with different versions. . . doesn't mean the deity but the people who determines what these deities do changed.

Haven't you noticed how Gods behave exactly how the people who worship it want it to?

thats the reason why there is a difference, ideas of the people who speak for it changed.

that is what you get when people worship their assumptions
Yikes, this one struck hard ooo
Christianity EtcRe: How God Answers Prayers by cloudgoddess(op): 2:54pm On Apr 20, 2016
KGBEAST:
Darkmatter2525 is the source of this analogy right?
I don't think so, I saw it in the comment section of some youtube video. I don't recall it being one of his.
Christianity EtcRe: What If The Bible Is A Lie? by cloudgoddess(f): 5:44am On Apr 19, 2016
blueAgent:
U are a big Idiot. i can bet my money on how stupid U are.
all those people U mentioned are all known freemasons and Satanist. They all belong to Bohemian club. . becos they tell U they are athetist idiots like U accept.
why not do research of Occultism and celebrities.

U think proving that God does not exist makes U smart.i laugh it only shows how stupid and coward U are.
Most Satanist know that ,they are going to hell. and they admit it. but athiests like U will hide and try to disprove ,God's existence and hence Hell. becos U people are cowards.


Guy i have seen enough to know what is true and what is a lair.


facebook illuminati satanic mark zuckerberg
The new world or video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDW6Bk8gEg
undecided Conspiracy theories? Really?

There's a reason that video has more dislikes than likes.
Christianity EtcRe: If Evolution Was Untrue. by cloudgoddess(op): 4:17am On Apr 19, 2016
blueAgent:
How can Evolution explian the origin of Life.becos a none living thing .which includes evolution cannot give another life. which itself does not have.
Secondly how can a process ( elvolution) design and create Man and Woman with all its complexities.considering the fact that evolution does not think .neither does it have hands ,legs ,eyes.

Its like Saying a hurricane wind will blow and result or create a Boeing 727 with all its components.what is the probability of it happening?
How can Evolution explian the origin of Life.becos a none living thing .which includes evolution cannot give another life. which itself does not have.
Evolution does not set out to explain the origin of life. That is a seperate study altogether.

Secondly how can a process ( elvolution) design and create Man and Woman with all its complexities.considering the fact that evolution does not think .neither does it have hands ,legs ,eyes.
It's called population genetics: changing allele frequencies due to mutation, genetic isolation, etc. Simple biological principles that rest on the foundations of chemistry & physics (DNA is a double helix, certain base pairs match with others, errors in DNA copying that lead to mutation, etc etc).

Its like Saying a hurricane wind will blow and result or create a Boeing 727 with all its components.
Not really. Hurricanes are chaotic, quick events. Evolution is tiny changes to DNA molecules over multiple generations, major changes taking millions of years to occur in mammals. It's not a fast process or a chaotic one.

An analogy I like to use is the necklace and beads. Take a necklace, with perhaps 10 different colored beads on it. Every 10 minutes (representing a new generation) one bead is either added, or replaced with a different color bead. After 30 minutes the necklace will not look very different than how it started. But give it a few days, a week, even a month, and the necklace will look very different than when it started. That is how the process of evolution works on the DNA of organism populations. Tiny changes that add up over time.
Christianity EtcRe: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by cloudgoddess(f): 6:22am On Apr 18, 2016
mrofficial:
Oya fight God nau.

Bro, there is nothing you can do. You are subjected to His laws and you're gonna pass away with time. Out of nothing, you were created and will be no more as time goes on.

God is not man. He only made you in his own image. You'll only keep wailing like a worker who's underpaid.

You can call Him whatever you like, nothing is going to change and He cares less.

Don't forget that your understanding of nature is limited and you can't have access to more than 10% of your brain.

If you're tired of His rules, stab yourself to death mehn.
You did nothing to refute logic boy's position and just wrote irrelevant things that don't even support your position. Yes, we know that everyone will die one day. We know our understanding of nature is limited (for now) and that we can't access most of our brains (for now). What does any of that have to do with the subject at hand -- god failing to act consistently with the laws he supposedly created?

Man made god in their own flawed image. That is exactly the point here, saying "oya fight god" is failing to see the glaring truth behind the criticisms of biblical god Yahweh being presented in this thread. Middle-eastern human beings, from 2000+ years ago, made up a god character, wrote stories about his supposed personality and doings, and then compiled them into a book and gained followers partly through word of mouth, and mostly through violence/plundering. Nothing about the process was divinely inspired, people are just told it is by authority figures (parents, pastors) and believe it because of groupthink, peer influence, and of course fear of eternal hellfire (another implausible, unproven phenomenon).
Christianity EtcRe: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by cloudgoddess(f): 4:48am On Apr 18, 2016
How does someone burn without a body in the first place? Pain receptors and nerve cells are required to feel burns.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheism. Lessons From The Church That "Prayed" Down Lightening by cloudgoddess(f): 10:37pm On Apr 17, 2016
Great post OP. Everything here is so common sense for people living in reality but for the religious it is nearly impossible to comprehend. Religion causes minds to operate off confirmation bias - seeing only what you want to see given your pre-existing beliefs, and ignoring everything else that is happening in the world.
Christianity EtcRe: Ten Major Flaws Of The Evolution Theory by cloudgoddess(f): 12:30am On Apr 17, 2016
Wow, did you even read anything I replied in the other thread? I refuted over half of these points in my response to you yet you still post this. Did you attempt to comprehend what I typed there or did i just waste my time?

And the site title is "Eternal Perspective Ministries", go figure. Interesting how the only websites writing these confused displays of ignorance are always Christian websites. Never actual science websites like NASA, National Academy of Sciences, Harvard, Cambridge Biology Department, etc. This is like a Muslim sending you a web page called "Praise Allah" explaining why Jesus wasn't the son of God. It's a clearly biased, religiously motivated source with no credibility in the science world.

Can you bring an actual, reputable science website with actual research studies pointing out actual flaws in the actual premises of evolution? Not lazy creationist propaganda pages written by religious zealots who are just as uninformed as you are of what evolution is in the first place?
Christianity EtcRe: A Much Needed Explanation of Evolution by cloudgoddess(op): 6:36am On Apr 16, 2016
odijeks:
you did well to tell us of evolution with the fruit flies but you failed to tell us whether results were successful. according to what i researched, scientist tried to induce mutation by subjecting this flies to radiation. Yes, genetic mutation occurred, but the offspring or mutants formed don't show the genetic leap the evolution theory proposes, rather malformed flies, some with more than 2 wings and others with more than six legs were formed. so no success yet
What study are you referring to? Post the link.

Given the fundamental misunderstandings you displayed in your prior post, I can't help but be doubtful that you correctly understood the premise of the study or what it was out to achieve. Evolutionary "leaps" are not proposed to occur in a single generation, and abnormal development is an expected result of radiation-induced mutations - the theory doesn't claim otherwise.

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