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pwettytemmy: it takes one to know one

Foolish attention seeker!

Get a life.

pwettytemmy: @crazyman, like I said earlier, I refuse to bash word with a crazy man.

Then keep shut and refrain from quoting my posts, most especially when you have no sensible contribution to make.

azzima: I beg to differ.imagine okada riders and pure water sellers being kidnapped for ransom in the east by their own?come one.The level of wickedness there is something else .just because they want to hammer so bad some are even kidnapping their own fathers and uncles.so so sad.

Do you have proof that okada riders and pure water sellers were kidnapped in the east?

Or are you displaying part of Awolowo's traits in you (lies) simply because you want to prove a point?

CyberG: This interview gives a glimpse of ojuku's thoughts before the civil war. Although he appears to be speaking with confidence, it is clear today that all that bravado was empty posturing, like most ibos still do today.

Why do you habour this kind of mentality?

Ojukwu only defended his people.

He was fearless and disciplined. Served both nigerian and Biafran army spotlessly. Took on the federal government backed by the world powers and floored them in Aburi with his intellectual and oratoral power. Example of an excellent leader

Not Corrupt and Charitable. Before, during and after the civil war no one accused him of corruption which none of our politician could boast of today.

Born by a British knight and a multimillionaire father of those days and not millionaires of today, had the best in life, would have avoided the war to go and enjoy his father's wealth and would have been the richest man in africa if he had inherited his father's wealth but rather chose to finance the war for his people with his father's wealth which i myself don't think i can do. Awesome sacrifice indeed.

Originator of due process and not tribalistic. He objected and refused to accept Yakubu Gowon as the head of state because due process was not followed even though the second in command to take over was a yoruba man. What a nationalist.

Stop being irrational an take your time to get facts before making any posts.

CyberG: This is not the most important thing to take away from this interview. It is noteworthy to state the following:

1. Ojuku said the ibos have for a LONG time been prepared for war, and that they are READY.

If the british and america didn't inter vain, his boast would have become a reality.

CyberG: 2. He also said that the Nigerians are going to be surprised about what they will get, meaning they will be completely BEATEN.

Would you claim that Nigerians weren't surprised at the strenght of the igbos during the early stages of the war?

CyberG: 3. He also stated that the WAR will not last long.

Mind you, gowon made this claim. He (gowon) said the war would last for three months.

So if you decide to blame ojukwu for not keeping his word, gowon shouldn't skip your list of criticism.

CyberG: So, I ask ibos who are still defending this man, what was his plan for the war, REALLY? Ojuku, like most ibos, underestimate most other Nigerians in their intelligence, smarts, grit, business acumen which is really not a preserve of a tribe! It is an individual thing for in a family, one son can be very driven while the other is not so driven. That is why it is wisdom not to generalize.

Your posts keep exposing how brainless you are.

If you claim we (igbos) are defend a coward, then kindly explain the term we should use to classify someone who at 11, slapped a white British colonial teacher for humiliating a Nigerian woman at King’s College in Lagos, where he (Ojukwu) was a student”. 

If you still maintain your stand that he (Ojukwu) is a coward, then explain why He refused to recognize Gowon’s leadership? Why did he defend General Ogundipe (a yoruba man) and not himself for presidency?

Its obvious that hatred has blinded your better judgement, hence your deluded posts.

CyberG: Back to the issue, can people who claim to be biafra soldiers tell Nigerians how they were prepared and if NOT, was it all about propaganda, hoping people will buy any lies, or the violence that ojuku brought will not be reciprocated by courageous, strong, brilliant and patriotic Nigerian Forces and civilians? I like to hear honest and logical opinions.

What honest and logical opinions are you looking forward to hear when your heart towards the Igbos is as black as this post you've just made?

Wao this is good.

But please avoid choosing topics that would make the thread a battle ground for tribal bigots.

Thumbs up.

A policy to exterminate a whole race of people or engage in ethnic cleansing is against every rule of war; it is against the UN Geneva convention on war that has been accepted by most nations even before the Nigeria/Biafra conflict.

I am yet to read or see anywhere in the world where Kwashiorkor has ravaged children as it did Igbo children during the Nigeria civil war.

Infact I dare say, the kwashiorkor that visited Biafra children to me is not limited to food or protein deficiency. If investigation or research is done, I will not be surprised if some form of biological or chemical warfare was used.

An uncle of mine that fought in the war in Calabar told me a story where their water supply was poisoned by the federal troops. Do you still think all is fair in war?

People keep calling ojukwu a coward because he lost the war and retreated into the nearest country.

If you must know, cowards never fight any war; yet Ojukwu fought the Nigerian civil war and led Biafra.

We know in Nigeria civil war context who the cowards are. Gowon and Awolowo are among the list.

Achebe and other prominent igbos who fought the war and are now giving their opinions aren't dragging the Yorubas into any feud.

The war is not just between the Hausa vs the Igbo. It's the whole of Nigeria vs Biafra. The Yorubas were very much in the war and we know which side they fought.

pwettytemmy: ur name explains it all.

If you have nothing reasonable to say, then avoid quoting my posts.

Cos for you to encourage tribal bashing on this forum, means that you're in no way better than the Boko haram militants tormenting this country.

ignis: If these robbers are caught, disgraced and burnt alive now, people will start describing it as barbaric and inhuman. But now nobody has described this act of the robbers as either barbaric or inhuman. i think jungle justice is the best course of action i Nigeria.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

If you're suggesting jungle justice, then you're in no way better than them.

Godjone: Ibo ppl dey heartless shaa! Imagine d situation in which dey operate! Instead of giving sucour to flood victim, they would rather steal 4rm them. Ibo ppl, i fear una!

My friend shut your mouth if you have no reasonable post to make.

Are yorubas saints?

It all boils down to bad leadership and poor performance from our security operatives.

All those who made triblastic comments against the igbos, is your state any better?

Can you point out one state in Nigeria where robbery doesn't take place?

In case you don't know, robbery is robbery be it from a bank or from a poor widow, all is robbery, and therefore those involved must face the law.

But unfortunately, some animals who pose as humans on this forum wouldn't see it as such. They won't hesitate to lash out tribal insults as if where they come from is any better.

If we want our great nation Nigeria to move forward, the we have to set aside our religious beliefs, our ethnic and tribal differences etc, and unite as one to save our dying Nation.

Peace!

This man is shameless.

I still wonder why people attend his church.

In 1999, he prophesied that God revealed to him that Obsanjo wouldn't be alive to witness his swearing in...it turned out to be false.

In 2007 he made a statement against Buhari and told Nigerians the he (Buhari) has Nothing good to offer them. And of course, he also claimed that his speech was a revelation from God.

In 2011, we saw the shameless pastor standing behind Buhari and making false claims that his action was the will of God for Nigerians.

Now the big question is...if indeed it was God who gave him (Bakare) the green to get involved in politics, why did he loose?

Why is obasanjo still alive today?

I think its time he gets arrested for this his false claims, and his church turned into an orphanage home.

Its can't be learnt because its a gift from the holy spirit...it can only be received.

kpozite: This is very creative and interesting, but to me crazyman didn't make an opening statement as it should be in a debate instead he just went straight to counter's pearls points which I think there is time for later and not now. he ought to make his points ignoring that of any one else until when asked to counter someones point during the pairing.

Didn't you read the topic at all?

I'm on the opposing side, therefore I and all those in the same boat are meant to object with valid points the opinions of our opponents.

You should know that all the participants cannot be available at once, so why couldn't the mods let the few who were available counter each other?

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Read my first post on this thread. . . Its on page 0
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I read it that's why I said it didn't make this debate standard in my previous posts.

My point is are we sure we can maintain the same number of participants tomorrow as we did today?

I'm not trying to be judgmental here, but seeing a full house today, you should have allowed things to go on, Then score points later.

Then tomorrow, anyone (including me) who feels they can't participate as a result of being seriously debunked, would honorably step aside making it easier for more discussions to take place.

Starting a whole new pair tomorrow would only make things strenuous for us (debaters) you and your mods

But you're the boss, your decision is final. I only stated my opinion so you can view it from another angle.

Thumbs up.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Well, i think that comment was misunderstood. What i meant was that you can start posting from 12 noon. Then when all the debaters must have posted, we move on.

From 12 noon to anytime everybody finalizes posting. . . Better?
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Your rules doesn't make this thread a standard debate.

If you say we should post our opinions only, then I can as well open google and copy paste whatever I see there, and pray for favour from the judges.

A debate if you ask me is when you post an opinion, and defend it with your next five or six posts.

I expected a scenario where we would argue and counter each other's posts till day break then the judges would read our arguments and sore points when necessary.

This isn't a debate.

Modified....

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Starts from 12 noon tomorrow, nigerian time.
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12noon on a Monday...I don't think i would be available.

Why not make it in the evening?

[quote author=pearl~hapi]bia this boy\man!the more I read my post and not find anything like superficial love the more. angry I get with you,warn yourself o.if you try that kain tin tomoro ehn we go fight physical fight or better still,wear glasses tomoro wen coming here[/quote]I'm sincerely sorry...

I was quoting and adding at the same time, the whole this was so strenuous and I had about 3 windows opened...I must have mixed up words there.

Accept my apologies.

I would modify my post.

But this proved one thing...the ages it took her, and the confusion she displayed publicly pertaining that post shows clearly that she copied and pasted 75% of her opinion.

Judges take note.

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AmBeautiful: Come on baby
Let's do the twist

Patience sweety round two is a few hours away...in the mean time enjoy yourself cos tomorrow would be much hotter and tougher than today.

Alright thanks.

So I guess I would have enough time to reply Am beautiful's post.

Sexkillz why did you hide my posts?

Isn't this a debate?

Aren't we suppose to counter each others points?

I didn't use any bad words, I just countered him.

God evening my wonderful moderators Sexkillz and Jay bee, my judges and my fellow viewers.

I'm against the discussion money sustains romantic love.

First, I would define what love means...

Love from my dictionary is this profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person. 2. a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend. 3. sexual passion or desire.

Now according to pearl happy's definition in the below quote.

[quote author=pearl~hapi]Flashing back to exaggerated phrases like“money rules the world“,money answereth all things to mention but a few.

One gets a clearer and vivid understanding of the importance and unestimated value of money in our everyday lives,love inclusive.
Goodevening our humble and unbiased judges,viewers and my codebaters,here to support the motion “money is requiréd to sustain love is my humble self,pearl.[/quote]She clearly states that money rules the world...

If I may ask, did she fall in love with the motive of milking her partner, or did she fall in love because she truly loves her partner.

Falling in love from my own perspective has nothing to do with money. Why if you may ask....

1. Love is about assurance. Therefore whoever gives you the assurance is the one you fall in love with. It even if he doesn't have a penny on him, once you can be assured of his undying love, you'll definitely give him your heart.

2. Most people want to be with someone not as to depend on him or her but to share their life with them.

3. They want to spend time with someone not because they are scared to be alone or that he or she is wealthy, but because they enjoy the other person’s company.

4. They are looking for someone who would accept them for who they are and not what they are.
[quote author=pearl~hapi]What is love?love is having a great feeling of liking and affection for a person,let's talk about the phrase“like”for one to have a likeness for any person[s]they must have been certain qualities/features which the liked person posseses.[/quote]Does that definition have anything to do with money?

[quote author=pearl~hapi]features like how he/she dresses,talks carriage and physical appearance,and all of the above factors are fostered by money.forpersons appearance to catch your glimpse,money would have been spent for such greatlooks and to make up such personality.my opponent might argue and say WHO GIVES THE HECK about money/fashion?okay!what about the way he or she talks?that too would have been made possible through education which also requires the presence of money.bottom line is, money makes up the good things you see in an individual you choose to like/love.

People also fall in love to show off. The love the idea of being in love so much and they don'’ want to be left out. They want everyone to see that they can be loved as well.
[/quote]@bolded

There is a difference between falling in love, and showing off.

If I build a relationship on money, believe me, the day the flow stops, the love would cease.

But if build it on sincerity, honesty and truthfulness, even in the absence of money, my partner would still remain faithful.

[quote author=pearl~hapi]A relationship devoid of a good and stable availability of income is like a farmer who goes to he's farmland and expect that that crops would sprung up without planting,watering and nuturing it.I put it to you that such love affair is like one between children trying to meet up with the trend and catch fun.little wonder great minds would advice that for anyone to go into a love affair he or she must be financially stable.[/quote]Wrong...

A farmer waters and nurture his crops because he loves them. The crop in return would fetch the farmer tremendous wealth when he eventually sell them out.

Love if you must know is a two way thing. You musn't be a millionaire before you show your love to your partner.

You should know that the main criteria that would sustain your love wouldn't be the magnitude of cash you invest in it, but the height of commitment and dedication you invest in.

[quote author=pearl~hapi]Also,not forgetting that romance is essential in every relationship,I put it to us that money is required to boost that also.imagine its your spouse[s]birthday and all he or she gets is a textmsg of HAPI BIRTHDAY DARLING![/quote]Oh darling!

What has a N5 happy birthday text message got to do with money sustaining romance?

[quote author=pearl~hapi]What happened to goin an extra mile to be romantic by getting them a little presence/package or is my opponent going to argue romance isn't required?well I leave that for my judges to answer bearing in mind that money also makes up romance.[/quote]A gift comes not because you feel like showing off your wallet size to your partner, but because your feel that you've come a long and your partner has so far proven worthy of being appreciated, hence your appreciation.

Money isn't really necessary in most cases because the gift could be priceless.

[quote author=pearl~hapi]Furthermore,love experts would say that love,care and kindness is a sure way to make an effective love life.putting all that into consideration,if your spouse needs your help financially no matter how little and you fail to be there for them,the above factors have been greatly violated.[/quote]This comes back to the question why do you fall in love?

Are you in love because you want to beg for money?

Suppose you didn't meet your partner, wouldn't you look for alternative means to solve your financial needs?

[quote author=pearl~hapi]We'v also heard them say that love needs to be nutured for it to grow from one step to another and this is isn't done by folding our hands and repeatedly saying I love you to our spouses,it requires romance,care,kindness to grow and what is romance without finance or how is care shown by mere saying I care about you and kindness obviously doesn't mean having a random sex everyday. Av come across a lot of girls who complains of how their bfs uses them on bed without offering any kind of assistance to them,is that what we tag love? [/quote]@bolded

Then they weren't in love.

They were probably a se.x tool used by their partner to ease himself off sexua1 tension.

[quote author=pearl~hapi]A lot of tymes ignorance makes people say things like we hope in God,we hope in the future,well I would say that the future is now!your future with your spouse begins the moment you say yes to them except it isn't love.[/quote]True.
[quote author=pearl~hapi]Lack of money in a relationship has led to so many moral decadence and social vices in our society.[/quote]Do you have valid evidence to back up this claim, or are you making reference to it simply because you want to win a debate?

[quote author=pearl~hapi]a lot of times guys hear about runs girls,they spit and curse!for crying out loud these guys have dere socalled bfs who tell them I love you twenty times daily and show it by having to wrestle with them on bed every passing day.love has basically been turned into how much you are good in bed,BORING IS THE WORD!well untill am called upon again to convince us that money actually and truely sustains love I rest my case[/quote]Could you elaborate more on this...cos I seem not to comprehend your staement?

Let those in favour of the discussion begin, then we who oppose should follow

Happy birthday...may all your wishes come to pass in Jesus name.

I preferred the old instant Yim that used to be active on Nairaland back in the days.

Hello crazyman this is xyz from nairaland.com

Seun if you can go back to this style, or come up with a better upgrade, it would be much easier for members to communicate freely with each other.

Thanks.