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Phame:
illiterate, which one be 'every mini book'? Somebody just presented you with a fact and you are here ranting and displaying who you are.

I am not in the ungracious habit of exchanging words with the mentally handicapped. That would be termed as abuse.

@op. Great post!

dabriggs:
Imo State, Abia State (Addax, Chevron etc)

Note the map does not mean there is oil there. However there are oil blocks Producing and (Not yet explored) in the East.

Especially along the Benue trough.

We don't have crude oil. We have refined palm oil.

you think say this one na school way you dey teach every mumu book.

stebell:
Since yu know the history of my place more than me, can yu pls tell me where the Opobo man came from or did we jus fall frm the moon??
For the the Opobo man, Bonny is our ancestral home and no place else. We are Ibanis and bear Ibani/Ijaw names. there is nothing in me that shows I am Ibo. so pls continue with ur IPOB agitation I pray it comes through, but I'll not be blackmailed into being part of Biafra.

You're clearly mistaking me for someone else. In my comment I clearly stated that the indigenes of each community should be allowed to state what they are. I really don't give a flying fckk one way or the other. If you read my posts, you will see that I am not in support of a Biafra 2,0 that includes even one non-affirming Igbo sub-ethnic group. In fact I stated that I will stand with the "one" Nigeria proponents and fight such a monster.

Abagworo:
Coward!

Me? Coward? So sniping at TonyeBarcanista because others are doing so is bravery.

I repeat that we can't be drawn into any quarrel you have with your Ijaw brothers. If they say the entire PHC na Okrikaland, wetin concern me?

Abagworo:
The issue is that many Igbos were staking their integrity just to show love to their so called brother but the pay back is attempting to claim Igbo territory. I will soon reveal how these senseless people still live in 1940 Igbo abandoned properties shamelessly. The worst is that the land belongs to Ikwerres but was sacrificed on the altar of Rivers unity.

If you Ikwerre folks want to fight your Okrika Ijaw brothers then stop involving Igbos in your family issues. We lost some houses but we have moved on and built new ones.

You guys should please free TonyeBarcanista. He hasn't said anything wrong to Igbos that I have seen. " Igboids" like Truckpusher and HopeAthand have said horrible stuff about us but I don't see all these endless threads attacking them.

stebell:
Hw many people in Iboland answer Ijaw names like Tonye, Ibim, Ibiso et al.
Don't ever yu get it mixed up OP and his band of followers.
Opobo and Bonny are Ijaws and cannot be Igbo land. Never.
I don't want to even talk about this any further cos I see that yu Biafran/Igbo peeps won't stop with this delusion of urs.

I'm an Ijaw and frm Opobo/Bonny, I don't think their is any name in ma community or tradition that resembles that of the Igbo. The only thing I can think of is marriage between both tribes/region.

I say again, Opobo Town and Bonny are Ijaws and not Ibos.

Charles (Charlie Boy) Oputa is from Oguta in IMO State. Is he Ijaw or Igbo? After you've answered that question, do a Facebook search with the name Oputa. You will discover that the majority of people with that name are from Bayelsa.

The question of ethnic identity is a bit more complex than some of you simplistically put it. Some communities may have people with diverse origins as inhabitants. I will rather go with what the inhabitants choose to call themselves than the opinion of outsiders.

Your attempt at concatenating Opobo with Bonny is misleading. Opobo and Bonny were not even in the same province before the creation of Rivers State. Opobo lands were acquired from the Obolo and belong to himself and his descendants.

pazienza:
So even Igbos here are too daft not to recognize this OP as an amateur liar.

Nsogbu dikwa.

The cretin even claimed to be both Osu and Ohu. As if the two terms are synonymous. I hate poorly researched stories.

Erm... actually (pretending to consider it). Erm.. No thanks. You can keep the poisoned chalice.

pazienza:
Most Kalabaris, Okrika and Ibanis identify as Ijaw, the few Ijawphobic ones amongst them are quickly snuffed out by the majority ijawphilic ones. Nobody is preying on anyone.
https://www.nairaland.com/20932/kalabari-people

. The mainstream Ikwerre is unrepentantly Igbophobic, thats the reality, no need sugar coating it.

We treat them how they treat us, we start earning some respect from them. It's as simple as that.

Most of the time I usually insist that Ikwerre isn't Igbo but sometimes even I get confused. Did you notice that the President of Ohaneze Ndi Igbo in Rivers is an Ikwerre man from Isiokpo called Igo Okparamma?

The thing is confusing but it's not our concern. They should sort themselves out.

Truckpusher:
Mention the Igbo communities that are carved out and included into the SS please.

You claim to come from Rivers state and you don't know that Egbema (a single community) for example is divided between IMO and Rivers? Apparently, according to your strange theory, the Egbemas in IMO are Igbo while those in Rivers are now non-Igbo.

You also don't know that the Ndokis straddle Abia and Rivers states? The Ndokis in Obigbo are non Igbos while the ones in Asa and Azumini are Igbos. You claim to come from Ogba but you don't know that the Ndoni (that you shared an LGA with) are kin with the Ogbarus in Anambra State? Ogbarus are Igbo but the Ndoni are non Igbo.

I don't have any problem with anyone claiming to have dropped from Mars but it's better you restrict any ridiculous claims to your own people and stop distorting other people's hard earned identity with ludicrous statements.

NOBLEDANDY:
Then if you are saying in affirmative that the Portuguese also slept with bini women when trading with them...

Why then do bini look like bini...
While esans look different?

According to you they both slept with Portuguese men in line of trading with them.

Some Portuguese were actually granted dukedoms by the Oba. They settled in those dukedoms and raised families which might explain the throwbacks you're seeing. I remember going to high school with an Esan guy with green eyes.

4stylz:
Trash; like biafra owns rivers? Stupid people; biafra is only an eastern movement, you guys should keep it that way

Yeah, Rivers is in the North.

pazienza:
You don't understand the mindset of those people. Nothing the Igbo man do will ever seem right to them.

I personally don't fancy PH, the city is over rated.

But know this, if you concede PH to those people, they will still find away to assign connotations to your act of leaving PH for them. They will make up crazy dumbfounding negative stories as to why you surrendered the city to them, and they will keep repeating their made up stories to each other, until even they come to hold those lies as the absolute and sacrosanct truth, a form of group plagued Pseudologia fantastica.

They will question your motives, assign negative motives to your very act of leaving the city , and then heighten their suspicion of you more, and when your guard are down, they will still sell you out.

They will be like: " for this people to leave this city they cherish this much to us, they must have a back up evil plan in the background waiting to use against us".

Their Igbophobia is incurable, and it's a waste of time trying to cure them of it. They are simply irredeemable.

I read with amusement TonyeBarcanista and Truckpusher's comments deriding IPOB for demonstrating in PH . Barcanista even queried the demonstrators for referring to PH by its original Ikwerre name (not entirely surprising because the struggle between the Ijaw okrikans and their Ikwerre "brothers" for the ownership of PH is an ongoing one). It was amusing because the aforementioned duo are also advocates of an unobtainable phantasy called SE/SS "unity". It's interesting that while these advocates of unity didn't complain about similar demonstrations in Enugu, Aba and Onitsha the one in PH was deemed insulting.

Make no mistake about it, their views are very typical and the actual reasons for them very complex. The SS is a very complex area and whatever advantages it's resources may confer to a future state will be negated by its diversity and the huge potential for fruitless atomistic conflict. This is why I have always maintained that it would be a monumental error of judgement to include a single non-affirming Igbo ethnic group in a proposed Biafra. I have gone further to say that I will rather support the abomination called "one" Nigeria than support a future Biafra with a single non-Igbo sub-nation. We should just work to maintain good neighbourliness with these folks like our forebears did and avoid any attempt to recreate a future mini-Nigeria after wasting a lot of blood and tears.

pazienza:
And yet Igbo societies offered more opposition to colonialism than the mushroom empire called Bini empire you are suffering hard to link with.

Igbo ukwu and Nri arts were also more sophisticated than any your mushroom empires that crumbled easily before the Caucasians.

What is civilization without contribution to human knowledge base? What did your mushroom empires contributed to human knowledge base? You call a bunch of black savages running around the bushes of tropical west Africa looking for weaker African groups to subjugate empire and civilization? Empire of mudhouses. Lol!

I now see and know why your inferiority plaqued Eze Ogba will be rolling before Oba Bini and even went ahead to change the title of his throne from Eze to Oba, he simply was incapable of independent thought process.

I always find these denigrations of our history amusing because they're borne out of crass ignorance.

The archeological evidence indicates the following;

a) Earliest evidence of bronze smithing in West Africa.

b) One of the earliest evidence of iron smelting of the planet (Opi, Obimo and Lejja)

c) Earliest surviving textiles fragments in the West African forest region.

What more could our ancestors have achieved!

It's interesting to note the that the democratic, humanistic, participatory political system so derided by detractors is exactly where the rest of the planet is going.

Taqiyya!

AAinEqGuinea:
White conservative radicals are still mad over this... Hypocrites, with their muh freedom of speech Drawing Mohammed contests.

Does Ahmed's device look like bomb on first impression without knowing Ahmed? absolutely.

Conservative logic: not every suitcase outfitted with an infused clock is a bomb but when youre a middle eastern Muslim the device looks more like a bomb.

You're right OP Ahmed played them on their stereotypes and cashed out. He's lucky to have gotten the attn of Obama (which is another issue ). With no bomb squad, no evacuation they knew his device was no bomb but because he was acting deviant as the school day progressed and the device beeping, interrupting one class I guess he started to look less like a science student and more like a terrorist. His earlier teachers knew it was no bomb as well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9uoN7aers8

Forget all that gist. That guy is simply a terrorist in training. That was just a dry run. When the real one happens, the deceived will be thinking it's only a science project until they're prematurely sent to meet their ancestors.

Hard experience has shown that every Mohammedan is a terrorist unless extreme torture is used to prove otherwise.

Signed
Prophet Curlieweed (peace be upon him)
Centre of Interfaith Tolerance and Dialogue (CITD)

abagoro:
Igbos are proud people and can make do with Southeast but politicians are misleading youths using propaganda to create an impending genocide against Igbos by a coalition of the rest of Nigeria. I don't see Ikwerre as Igbo but I know Ikwerre is Igbo speaking but it does not make Ikwerre my enemy. My mother is from Ikwerreland and I have done deep research and discovered Ikwerre have an ethnic dimension of their own which I concluded is irreversible. Most innocent Igbos don't know this. They think and believe Ikwerre is Igbo because of the language and names.

As for your open display of hatred, it doesn't reverse the fact that Ikwerre origin and language lies in Igbo hinterlands of Owerri and Arochukwu.

Taa! Stop that joke. We don't have anything to do with Ikwerre origins. Secondly, that gibberish they yammer among themselves isn't Igbo. Stop lying and claiming. Go to sleep.

donsteady:
Buhari can only fool us once. 2019 is not far, we need a new party. PDP is dulling

You are kidding, right. Mumuharri deceived you in 1984 with this same talk of fighting kwarauption and indiscipline, he's done it again thirty years later in 2015 and you think mumugerians will grow some brains between now and 2019?

This Deji effed up. Big time. They should have lynched the dumbass known as "Eze Igbo".

"Eze Igbo", my yansh! Ever since the perfidious English introduced this system of warrant chiefs in our land, all sorts of little minded nincompoops have found in these useless titles an irresistible ingredient for their continuous bid to stroke their over sized egos.

adeitoro:
being Igbo is not voluntarily, nobody decides who is or who is not Igbo.
It is a natural that people are grouped under a particular race based on various distinct trait and characteristics.
Okey lets rephrase your question; why do you want Nigerians to ne black?

I am glad you used the highlighted words. Can you show me how they share those traits and characteristics with us? Again, I won't disparage them but dem never reach.

adeitoro:
so you do believe all this trash on Ikwerre, awka, orlu, asaba etc are not Igbos? posted regularly on social media, smh.

If they are not Igbos, who then are?

Chai yoruba propagandas are really accomplishing their mission.

I don't give a flying fckk about any Yoruba propagandist or whatever. I'm very informed and have had some interactions with Ikwerre. The majority say they're not Igbo. Actually, they don't qualify as such. I don't want to disparage anyone so I'll just stop at that . Why do you want them to be Igbo?

adeitoro:
is Ikwerre not Igbo?

I doubt if you are Igbo because if you are, you wont have make such ascertion.

Are you Ikwerre? Ikwerre say they're not Igbo and I will take their word over yours. And regarding your question, I am very Igbo.

carnegiefan:
You are mixing things up, quite frankly. The Swiss are far less populated than Biafra. The entire Biafran military reserve force will almost equal the total population of Switzerland, about 8 million.
Biafran standing force (the ready to go force) should be small say 50,000 -100,000 highly trained, heavily armed force.
That force, my friend, will be so well trained and so well equipped that it can stop an invading force ten times its size.
The job of keeping Biafra free will first fall on the shoulders of the military, and then the reserve force.
Ordinary citizens have no business carrying firearms around. Beat cops should work in packs to arrest errant citizens and diffuse potential incendiary situations.
If we want true peace and security, we should keep guns away from our civil life, and work hard to build families up, provide social safe nets, and reform criminals.

First of all, I will confess my biases here. I come from a gun loving culture where acquiring a gun was an important rite of passage for every adult male. I am of the opinion that we need guns in private hands not only to defend our nation from foreign invaders but also defend the citizenry from aspiring tyrants. The government should be afraid of the people.

carnegiefan:
That is my candid hope bro. I would still welcome more input because believe me for Biafra to be better than Nigeria ideas (no matter how banal it may seem) coming from ordinary folks -common man- is what will do the trick.
Nigeria is a product of a strict TOP-DOWN system, that is why disabled people are fkked in Nigeria. No help whatsoever.
When ordinary people come together to say what they want, the product is an instant leap-frog into first world status.
That is why western countries developed before all other countries on earth.

Good point. I suggest that we can use technology to implement the kind of direct democracy our ancestors practiced in a future Biafran state. I have always wondered why only representatives (members of parliament) can propose and make laws. In the case of Nigeria, (since it's a fake nation anyway) the reps wisely make laws to give themselves more money and perks.

It should be possible for ordinary citizens to propose laws and get them adopted using available modern technology. For instance ATM machines are now fairly ubiquitous. We even use them to pay all kinds of bills. What stops us from issuing every Biafran ( 18+) with a biometric voting cum ID card that enables them using something as ubiquitous as ATM to take part in national decision making in much the same way that our ancestors practiced government?

manchy7531:
Chino and Abagworo, na wa for both of Una. Saying am disappointed in both of you is an understatement.


As for Abagworo, am from Imo and I find it hard to believe your blind, sily and myopic support for rochas. Your comments atimes make me doubt you are igbo or related to igbo. I dey shame for your comments. They dont make sense and not practicable.

Abagworo isn't Igbo, he's Ikwerre. I don't understand how any bonafide Imolite would think that the best our state can do is concentrate on tourism and ignore industrialization.

PrinceBundu:
I know some set of people disargree with nnamdi kanu and Biafra project
The people from the following clans are allowed to vote
1-igbo
2-izon/ijaw
3-efik
4-ibibio
5-igala
6-idoma
7-igede
8-kalabari
9-ikwerre
10-itshekiri
11-urhobo/isobo
12-oron/ogoni
13-bakassi etc

Only people from above clans can vote
If u propose u CLICK like, if oppose u CLICK share
Then u REPLY the clan u are from and say why u choose ur choice, PLEASE BEHAVE CIVILIZED

This NL E-REFERENDUM for BIAFRA

Why did you stop at 13? There are 250 other ethnic groups left. You should include Tarok, Tiv, Jukun, Fulfude, Hausa, Zuru, Kanuri, Birom, Yoruba, Egun, Bini, Esan etc. Stopping at just 13 isn't fair.

dialfa:
Are you french?

I'm Igbo and my ancestors rejected kings. I just gave the French example for illustration.

dialfa:
What have our Kings done to you?

My ancestors rejected them and I reject them also. Liberty only started flourishing in the West when they rejected the "divine right" of kings. Read about the french revolution.

I don't understand all this pointless argument about silly relics. Personally, I hate all kings.

I hold the quote below to be true.

Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

Denis Diderot

Imam Ajmal Masroor must be an infidel for going against the words of Prophet Moh who commanded the faithful to piously rape the kafirs. Verily, verily I say unto you these zealous warriors of the Islamic State shall not be denied their 72 heavenly whores virgins.

Jakumo:
Hello Mr. Monogamy. Your clinically rendered projections of impending doom certainly do have an ominous ring, but to play devil's advocate and examine the on the other side of the coin for a moment, it is patently obvious that virtually ALL industrialized nations of Asia and Western Europe, along with The United States, and the often feuding sovereignties comprising the former Soviet union, are ALL, despite enormous political and ideological divides amongst each other, unified as one in their response of abject horror and revulsion over the serial massacres and mass executions perpetrated by ISIS.

That universally felt visceral outrage, over the sheer bestiality of Islamic terror, has in turn engendered a moral and humanitarian resolve by all but a tiny few nations comprising the world we occupy, the face off squarely against today's festering global peril, the so-called Islamic Front, and to comprehensively annihilate its capacity to field a viable military force ANYWHERE on Planet Earth.

Thus, for all the stern words of condemnation that have trailed Russia's military forays into Syria, chances are that behind the scenes, NATO leaders are offering quiet words of encouragement and praise to Russian President Putin for taking such a bold military stand against Islamic terror. As for the Chinese joining the fray and sending in jets to bombard Islamic terrorists, the same public finger-wagging will similarly be accompanied by secretly conveyed congratulations over the major butt-whopping being administered by the Chinese military, against enemies of the human race.

Rumours of the World's End are, thankfully once again, greatly exaggerated, to paraphrase an old saying.

Great insight. I think the Yanks are probably relieved at not having to deal with the catch 22 situation that Syria has become. They only have to express strong words of outrage to pacify the Saudis and their other Sunni client states in the gulf (who want to check Iranian and Shite influence) while they sit back and watch Putin take care of the camel fcukking terrorists. It couldn't be better.