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TheSourcerer:
He didn't even answer the prayers of millions of Jews during haulocaust , his own people oh
Na me Nigerian him go Kon ansa,? God is dead let's admit this thing

Maximus69:
The translators of the KJV crookedly inserted those additional words to support their TRINITY doctrine.

While translators of other versions copied from older texts and discovered many discrepancies of the KJV translators!

You can also check @
Matthew 17:21
Mark 9:44,46

The Bible has survived many malicious attacks ranging from disguised enemies to furious ones!

But the book survived them all that's why you're noticing the discovered hidden secrets of God's enemies who were wolves in sheep clothing.

So if you're willing to know more feel free to call your Jehovah's Witness friend, he will give you more information regarding this.

I was a Muslim before converting to Jehovah's Witnesses, all these secrets i learnt from them!

Satan used the concept of "if you can't beat them,join them" {Matthew 13:24-30} that's why all these different religions claiming Christians failed woefully to meet up with the challenge of true Christianity like preaching, teaching and forming a global family of peace loving worshippers that Jesus fervently prayed for! John 17:20-23

All those other versions are the works of translators who migrated to America when the persecution in Europe was intense. Jehovah's Witnesses also emerged from America, our own translation is called New Word Translation of the Holy Scriptures and today we are the one and only group that successfully meet up with the requirements of true Christianity!

Thanks!

Amujale:
It's never too late.

We need to understand that Africa has a history, and we all are part of that history.

There's no time to waste feeling sorry for ourselves or blaming our fellow brothers and sisters for the attrocities of outside competitors, lets instead meet our challenges with vigour and honour.

Lets not ever become content with mediocrity.

Excellence is where our ancestors put our great continent.

Amujale:
These are the reasons one needs to study African history.

What dyou think happened during the Arabian slavetrade?

What dyou think happened during Colonisation and the horrific Transatlantic campaign ?

The Eurocentrics and the Arabian fundamentalist burnt tons and tons of books and literature that wasnt related to Abrahamic religious text.

These are the reasons we ought to learn, study and research real history.

Can you understand?

Even Albert Einstein visited Egypt.

African scientist invented the speed of light thousands of years ago.

Africa was invaded by Asia and Europe.

And they both stole parts of our legacy in order to better themselves.

Amujale:
These are the reasons one needs to study African history.

What dyou think happened during the Arabian slavetrade?

What dyou think happened during Colonisation and the horrific Transatlantic campaign ?

The Eurocentrics and the Arabian fundamentalist burnt tons and tons of books and literature that wasnt related to Abrahamic religious text.

These are the reasons we ought to learn, study and research real history.

Can you understand?

Even Albert Einstein visited Egypt.

African scientist invented the speed of light thousands of years ago.

Africa was invaded by Asia and Europe.

And they both stole parts of our legacy in order to better themselves.

k4kenny:
Lol. That verese was reaveled after the Prophet's(SAW) wedding ceremony to his wife, Zainab bint Jahsh(RA). Some Guests overstayed, laughing and eating late into the night. You're right, he was actually shy and embarrassed to ask them to leave so could spend time with his new wife. So he waited awkwardly till they left. So Allah revealed the verse to let the believers know how to conduct themselves in not just the Prophet's home, but in all homes they're invited to. Even the Prophet had regular human issues too

Yes, it's one of the many times Allah(swt) came to the aid Prophet Muhammad (saw)

MrPresident1:
No. God neither planned nor intended for Adam and Eve to eat from the forbidden fruit, on the contrary, God actually planned for them to destroy that tree, and to ensure that only the tree of life remained in the garden of Eden.

Genesis 2:9
And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Both the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil are ideologies. The tree of life is the knowledge of God and his laws, this is the Law that God gave to Moses.

The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is the idolatrous, evil, wicked, ungodly, devilish law of Israel's neighbour; their heathenistic demonic practices.

You see, in the garden of Eden, Adam (Israel) was not the only person present there, Israel had neighbours that God commanded her to rout out completely, in routing out those neighbours, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil would be destroyed completely. And only the tree of life would be present forever.

This is where Adam (Israel) failed. Rather than completely destroying the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Adam started partaking out of its fruit, until that tree completely corrupted him, and he died to God.

The tree of life is Jesus Christ

sgbenro21:
That means you are heading to hell if you truly dont believe

sonmvayina:
But our myths was never about belief or worship but of knowledge... There was never a time we worshipped a human being... As God.. The igbos know that Chukwu is not a man same as the yorubas..

sonmvayina:
You people have derailed this thread... Please let's get back on track..
If the jesus story originated from the igbos, will Nigerians worship him...?

Amujale:
Great question.

Isaac Newton did give credit to Imhotep and the KM.Tic Scientific community in some of his write ups.

Isaac Newton was obsessesed with KM.Tic scientists. i.e Imhotep.

Isaac Newton spent so many years in Egypt that we simple stopped counting so as not to jinx him.


According to African history, these were the period that denotes some of the lowest points, the Arabian slavetrade was about fizzling away and had caused great famine, displacements and all the agents associated with the Islamic crazy wars and Arabian fundamentalist warmongery.

Then, at that critical moment, the Eurocentrics brought their pranks and tricks, they would use their missionaries to escalate delicate feuds, create false propaganda so as to create conflict.

Then after the conflicts are settled, they attacked; they colude with neighbouring communities to attack the winning side.

These were the days leading to Colonisation and the Transatlantic slavetrade.

Instead of Isaac Newton, acknowledge Imhotep and the KM.Tic scientist instead, treat Isaac Newton as the afterwards scientist that he was.

Study African history with the guidance and expertise of genuine African and pro-African historians.

Amujale:

Isaac Newton learnt his methods from the KM.
Tic Scientistssic. i.e Imhotep.

The brain of the African is that which brought about much of the concepts behind Computers. i.e IBM, the Internet e.t.c

Amujale:
All the Abrahamic religious text are fake, false and counterintuitive.

It's important to note that the Abrahamic religions comprise of Christianity, Islam and Judaism.

Cease fixation on the fakery and falsehood and concentrate our focus on real history.

Real history is trustworthy.

African history is proven to be true and trustworthy.

African history is the universal standard to which all other concepts and understandings are derived.

Africans discovered the concepts of literacy.

Africans discovered the concepts of numeracy.

All the major intellectual and technological breakthroughs in human history begins with the African, all the other scientist, scholars and academics built their knowledge and academia out of these.

Therefore, one should appreciate that generically, our continent is the major intellectual realm and centre of excellence and splendor for the entire planet Earth.

Hence, one should ask the sounding question.

Why?

Why is it that all the world are falling over themselves to learn, study and store our intellect, our legacy?

Yet, we are being taught to neglet real history and instead be engaging in their (The Arabian fundamentaliast and Eurocentrics)fakery and falsehood.

For example, studying African history allows one the understamding that sending humans to outter space is ultimately achieved through the intellectual capacity of the African.


That is to say, studying African history increases one's intellectual capacity.

ojuu4u:
All these Epistles are just to defend undefendable, Almighty God himself instructed us to worship him on Saturday *sabbart* and not Sunday, Jesus himself said it clearly that he came to strengthen laws he met and not to abolish/criticize them...
too know is what is causing a lot of confusion in body of Christ today that's why some are even saying their followers shouldn't celebrate Christmas

k4kenny:
What's wrong with the verse? One of the many instructions in the Qur'an.

sonmvayina:
There is only one God... One power in the Universe... What ever happens whether good or bad, he is responsible for both.. It is the name that is different.. CHUKWU, olodumare, Marduk, Osanobua, Ra, vishnu.. Etc.. Others are laws and principles within God..

sonmvayina:
He has always been God everywhere... But while other people go through his "sons".. The Jews don't.."
"do not have any other God BEFORE me ".. Reason they gave was that they were his chosen people.. He was their God and they were his people Deuteronomy 32:8-9...that is not to say that some people in other places don't worship him directly.. People like Nebochanezr and Cyrus where all God's Messiah..
The Israelites worshipped other gods and usually fell out of favour with their God.. Reason being that some of them don't know him.. Read Isaiah 45:1-10..they went after the baals and asherahs which is the sons and daughters of Enlil.. When they do they received punishment from Hashem.. He either allows their neighbours to over run them or send them on exile or sends famine and diseases... Just to chastise them and bring them back to him self..

sonmvayina:
Yaweh is not the Hebrew God, yaweh is one of the sons of Enlil...
The Hebrew God has another name. Hashem, they don't normally call the name as per the commandment "thou shall not take the name of the Lord in vain".. The name is only used in prayers and it MUST be inside the temple.. Any other time they use Lord or Lord God to differentiate him from his sons.. And other gods... So if I understand you correctly CHUKWU is the same God as the God of the old testament.. Yes it is... God is consciousness personified...

sonmvayina:
The sabbath is a day for families to interact with each other no distraction, that does not mean if your child is sick you can't look for firewood to boil the dogonyaro leaves... End of the day wisdom is the judge.. Who told you amadioha is a god?.. Amadioha is thunder and lightening, personified . Which will correspond to sango or Thor...the Bible calls them the sons of God.. Which includes Esu, which some people has equated to the devil, Ogun (God of Iron), which will correspond to mercury in Roman religion...
The Yoruba calls them irumole, hope I am not mistaken... They are what the Christian calls angels or demons..

0mnivalent:
I never knew people could be this dumb... if all abrahamic religious texts are dubious and wholly untrustworthy, then tell me the texts that are trustworthy.
oh! islamic texts? ptolemy's? or aristotle's?
you will be a very Big F@@l if you make mention of any of the above three.
stop decieving yourself man.
the Bible is no fiction, common sense could have told you that.

stop the foolish crap about religious origins and channel your energy into something else, yea, what would make you productive in monetarily.

sonmvayina:
If you have been following my post.. You will know..
I have always maintained that there is only one power In the world, hence it is called a universe.. It is the name of that power that is different.. Igbos calls it, CHUKWU, Yoruba calls it Eledumare, Benin calls it Osanobua, Romans calls it Jupiter, the Jews calls it Hashem, the Babylonian calls it Marduk.. Etc.. The stories about God are all man's creation.. They make use of element and symbols of the culture or custom in other to pass this message.. Must of us has forgotten that we are all Gods just having a human experience.. In other to make this experience worthwhile we need to set rules and boundaries for ourselves... Hence the Jews came up with the Torah.. We igbos have our own omenani or omenala....
The God of Abraham is also the God of we igbos...

k4kenny:
An atheist actually a very similar quote. He said 'the bible has made more people atheists than any book written by Darwin'.

k4kenny:
An atheist actually a very similar quote. He said 'the bible has made more people atheists than any book written by Darwin'.

k4kenny:
O only responded to what was worth responding to. The rest was total hogwash formulated by men of ancient times. Majority of your faith is not based in what Jesus (PBUH) said, rather it's what the early church have decided to brainwash people with. It's no wonder that Christianity is the fastest depreciating religion(Google it), the same Europeans that enslaved our ancestors' minds with cockandbull stories are leaving Christianity in their masses.

Once again, use your mind. It's a gift we must put to good use.

Thanks for the good wishes

mrollyB:
Happy new year bro

I was busy for some time, am just getting your response now.

I will have to say something before I start anything, what I want to say is until we open our mind to question, ask and learn we will not achieve any greatness. Not only In religious matters but in all aspects of life.

That Been said, we have assumed alot of things about Jesus and the Bible and we have learnt to tell ourselves what we feel is the right thing to suit our situation at the moment.

Jesus said something like I am the truth the way and the light, that who so ever will go to my father will come through me. Right? That was a straight statement from Jesus and we believe it and we don't twist it. Why? Because it's suits us, it's suits what we believe and we don't need any holy spirit to tell us what that means.

But statements like this

My father is greater than I, I can't not do anything except from my father, all this ones are not direct.
In the cases above, we need to find a better explanation to give it such that Jesus will not be junior to God but the same with him.right

Cases like cursing the Tree when it was not the season of it to bear fruit, but he caused it and the tree died instantly, all of this and more requires a whole lot of spiritual guidance to understand his action.

You see firstly you need to know why you are doing what you are doing and not just because you met it like that or they told you to do it this way or that way.


If Jesus said he is not sent to anybody than lost sheep of Israel, it's simple and straight forward no need to look around to justify why you think he is sent to Africans or Americans.

Jesus speaks in parables and when he realised that his disciples can't understand him he explains what he meant to them right there and then. If he said something and he knows that we won't understand he will explain like he did in all his parables in the Bible. Let us stop looking for justifications for ourselves. Jesus is of HIgher power he knows what we can understand and can't understand. We need no other things to understand him nor need to fabricate explanation for him.

Amujale:
The main difference btw Arabian fundamentalist and Eurocentric ideologies vs African spirituality is that the former are malicious fakery whilst the latter is sacred.

Furthermore, research into World history allows the understanding that suggest 'religion' is a direct adaptation of African spirituality.

Africans are the first people in human history capable enough to perceive the concept of God.

That is to say, African spirituality is sacred.

African spirituality doesnt intend to propagate or proselytize.

Some aspects of African spirituality remains classified.

African history is the combination of secular and classified history.

African history is the only narrative that ought to be taught in our classrooms.

mrollyB:
What happens when he said he was not sent to anybody, but to the lost sheep of israel. The Jews that he was as well. If he can say that by himself what else.

k4kenny:
Exactly we are humans, we're prone to making errors. Any scripture inspired by the God Almighty cannot be incorrect.

No, God never authored a book. Rather He inspired His Prophets with the scriptures to guide their people to worship none but Him. These scriptures were later corrupted by human hence the errors. The Qur'an is the final scripture of God to mankind. Allah Himself said it'll be protected from corruption.

If you buy a device and the manual is filled with errors and items inconsistent with the device you've purchased, would you be convinced that it's the manufacturer that wrote the manual? Anyone without sound knowledge of the product could have sneaked the manual into the package. Such is the case of the bible. Why would you call a book with errors was inspired by God. God is not the author of confusion

themonk:
Which of these two should go against your nature?

1) Forgiving and forgetting someone’s sins without repercussion.

2) Sending your son to die on the cross in a horrendous manner so you can forgive humans.

Is this even a question?

Human sacrifice that incurred more sins from those who sacrificed Jesus. I mean this is a God who encouraged slavery in this book you speak of, encourage some tribes of humans to go and kill other tribes even though he supposedly created both of them but he loved one more, this is unjust isn’t it? The Bible cannot be a moral compass, I mean Christians that have the guts to even argue irk me. I don’t like to argue with people about religion but I’m so concerned when people try to convince others it is a moral compass or a coherent, informative and infallible book of justice. Stick to your religion and just believe that things you see there you will get to understand later. Except you have any esoteric knowledge about the Bible or you read another bible different from the one I read or you just ignore the holes like most people do please just have faith that what you believe will be just and truthful and at the appointed time God will reveal everything to you.

Yes, miracles and divine manifestations work through the Bible but it also worked through ancient religions. In Igbo land they where bad and good native doctors and in Christianity there are pastors that kill their enemies and even neighbors and pastors that don’t. Some might argue that these pastors are possessed by evil spirits lol, these people haven’t read the Old Testament. The thing is if you are smart enough this should tell you that this thing is deeper than you can imagine. Go out and do research and compare what you believe with reality, theoretical and arm-chair Bible arguments don’t work.

All my life I’ve always questioned why things happen and try to compare what happens with theories the Bible proposed and it has never matched up. I am not saying the Bible is wrong, I’m just saying I’ve not found any reason for it to be right. Please let this not discourage you from being a christian, just don’t be a sheep. If you are stimulated by your spirit to ask questions ask them, if not please don’t, maybe it’s your destiny to take the blue pill and not the red one.

khia:
@ the Op, those people who died in the Holocaust were not God's people.