₦airaland Forum

mukhcech:
Oh now the pastor recognise Sharia. How ignorant he is. In islam the crime of YUNUSA and ESE is well legislated. No Pastor Bakare u dont have the moral or spiritual jurisdiction to judge based on Sharia. In Sharia, they are both sinners and would be flogged in public(This is Based on the confession by Ese that she was not Kidnapped-I wonder why everyone seem to shy away from that revelation.)

Because at 13 she's too babyish to decide if she's kidnapped or not. Her parents and we adults must decide for her. That's how civilized people view all such matters. A child is still a child. I know this runs against the grain of Islam. It's why we have this unending discord.

Tonye you crossed the line. The problem is not so much about you being Anti-IPOB as it is you being blatantly anti-Igbo. You failed to discern the Igbo psychology and now you have to pay for it.

When you attack the Igbo the way you did you are exorcising the ghost of the 3 million killed. Blood speaks and the living is it's mouth piece. The backlash is as unpredictable as it is uncannily explosive. The same thing happened with the Oba Akiolu debacle.

At the back of all Israeli actions and inactions is the Holocaust. It is the same for the Igbo nation. It's the 3 million dead. Fighting the Igbo on the scores you did is fighting 3 million spirits. It's a formidable unearthly opposition.

Worse, you roped the Ijaw into your shenanigan and created a whole armada of enemies for your beloved land, by yourself alone.

As a politician, when you go all out like that it means you must have counted the cost.

Bottomline, you are not stable yet immature. We've been watching you a long time. If I were to advice my friends on your matter I'll warn them to steer clear you. Period.

janellemonae:
You informed us a fan said it and not jude. I replied U dt "why am I not surprised".

If u think d rest of my post was referring to ur piece of information and not d 'fan' DT wrote d article, all I can say is - you think too highly of yourself.

Reading comprehension.

Your post was open to different interpretations. You could have been sarcastic on me. Mixed messages are the writer's fault. The 'who?' was ambiguous.

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Knowing now you intended no harm, I apologize for my not so subtle attack.

janellemonae:
Why am I not surprised? Bunch of tribalistic igbo fans.

Its on judes page, he can always speak against it like d last time he told pple to stop dissing lola. But this has nothing to do wt lola. Stupid tribalistic fans can say what they like but d girl is stronger dn all dt. Russian women dont suffer fools & are not emotional.

Hes just a shameless agbaya. He haf do wt d stealing. He should let his brothrrs have creative control if they want to and should stop insisting they split earnings equally. Hes a bloody manager. Even kris jenner only gets 10%.

Are you smoking something? Can't you read? Where did I go wrong? By asking that a false and misleading thread be pulled down? Gerrarahia abeg.

Can't the mods pull this thread down?? Is it too difficult for people to realize from the screenshots that the hunters and dogs parable were from a fan and NOT from Jude as stated by the OP?

[quote author=AprokoMan post=42785941][/quote]Thanks man for removing the veil from my eyes. Smh.

franchizy:
Im igbo and i support this action of the military and police.
We the well meaning igbos will never support the Biafra agitation.
we remain Nigerians forever.
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I'm repulsed by this statement of yours. You may not support them nor support Biafra, which is okay by me, as the Igbo nation is a repulican one and people are free to hold different opinions on issues but how dare you endorse the killing of your own innocent brothers for peacefully protesting their freedom? Since when did engaging in a peaceful protest become punishable by death?

You say this shit when others are condemning the murder of innocent Zakzaky Shiite followers and the killing of innocent blacks by white police in the US?

Have you lost your soul? Are you confused of your roots? Don't you know your history? Where you not thought? Tufiakwa! Retrace your steps sam sam nwanne. Onye aghana nwanne ya.

Hi Rhemaa, I am a Therapist and I can help her.

She is suffering from trauma. Her body remembers the horrible events of that day subconsciously. She will treat every sexual advance as if rape is about to happen. Sex and rape have become linked in her mind. A Therapist needs to work on breaking the power of the traumatic event over her and also deal with her skewed perception of intimacy and sex.

She should be okay in a few sessions. There are newer, more effective techniques for these things.

I stay in Lagos. Contact me if you need us to talk more.

I support the Prof on this. A hate speech targetting an entire tribe is condemnable.

At the same time a solution to the Fulani herdsmen issue should be implemented. And justice dispensed.

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This story and the comments here make me think about old and recent issues.

Many of those who support Prof Chidi's position on this are still the ones who claim Igbos (an entire tribe) planned the 1966 coup to dominate the rest of the country. A coup planned by few soldiers (4 Igbos and a Yoruba).

That coup is this 'celebrated' as an "Igbo coup." A tag pregnant with meaning.

Till today, when we say apologize to the Igbos for the pogrom and the 3 million killed in the war, they say No. The Igbos caused it and deserved what they got.

Today, Fulani herdsmen are on rampage and the mantra by the same people is "Don't use the sins of a few to paint a whole race bad or punish them."

Where is our sense of justice?

Smh.

And they wonder why people like Nnamdi Kanu is getting massive following.

We have very wrong foundations in this country. We'd better fix it now before it's too late.

Happy Independence Day Nigeria!

DedeNkem:
I guess you're a University undergraduate, and yet your English grammar is shamefully reprehensible!

Reprehen- what?

No sir, her grammar is good enough. She spoke informally, casually and she nailed it.

My submission.

Mznaett, young girl think about your life, your future, your destiny, your purpose. In a little while, you may be making the same mistake Esau made - sacrificing your destiny and purpose for some fleeting pleasure.

You are already moving with the wrong crowd and exhibiting some habits that may push u to the point of no return.

Retrace, retrace, retrace your steps now before ...

Two words too much for the wise.

Sir, the problem was not really the brains you employed but you. You, and the late Yaradua, had no business accepting Obasanjo's greek gift of running this country. You were not ready. You did not have the capacity nor the vision nor a plan.

... and it showed big time.

Sir, a leader casts his shadow on his nation/organization no matter the people around him. The Nigeria you left behind was a reflection of you, Mr Jonathan.

Morals, values, character, vision, charisma, truth, integrity, all wanting...

May your likes never taste power again.

qintus:
Mind you that the Igbo hav resolved to build their fatherland BIAFRA the British zoo in Africa called NIGERIA has expired so stop deciving yourself the zoo now belongs to hausa/fulani so others should find their way

You are guilty of the same generalization I accused the guy of. There are many Igbos all over Nigeria, all over the world. The best you can say is that there is a Biafra movement with a large following ongoing and that the Igbo consciousness is on the upswing.

I don't like generaliztions it distorts the reality, the truth.

Bye.

LastProphet:
Ibos say it was a propaganda so that means thee relatives are not humanbeings, they cant be real, or are they hired by jonathan to make 'Nigeria ungovernable for PMB?'

Ibos? So Oby Ezekwesili is Hausa? Doyin Okupe who was attacking her for speaking up against an irresponsible government is Igbo?

Abeg, use your tongue to count your teeth.

I hope Oliseh has outgrown his temper.

His playing days were sometimes punctuated with temper leaks on and off the field.

Just saying.

Abagworo:
Ikwerre changed the names back to Ikwerre. You can't come to another man's land and change his name to whatever suits you. Ikwerre disagrees being Igbo and the dialectal variation lends some credence to the claims. We need to actually let them be. The reason I have been contributing to this thread is not to claim Ikwerre is Igbo but to correct a flawed rewrite of history.

One love bro.

The kite and the eagle should both perch.

I'm out.

Abagworo:
Ihuruoha is simply "face of the people" or Ihuoha or ifuora in central Igbo. The "Hn" or "whn" was conceived in autography to address the nasal and accented pronounciation.

The origin and uniqueness of Ikwerre would not have been a long discussed controversy if common sense was allowed to come into play. Migrations came from everywhere with Etche and Owerri being very significant but the most solidly placed and easily proven root is Cross River Igbo area rather than Western Igbo or Bini.

I write this because I feel more connected to Ogba and Ukwuani and I notice a lot of similarities aming us but never Ikwerre.

Ok, good point about the authography. But the rate at which Ikwerre changed Igbo names after the war lends credence to my fears.

There is nothing like uniqueness. Abiriba , Onicha, some Aro and many others in Igbo land are believed to have migrated from somewhere into Igboland. That does not make them less Igbo than anyone else.

Where are u from?

mcvaeey:
n the words of K.O. Amadi (1993), “Traditions suggest that Ikwerre is a nickname given to Iwhnuruọhna people…..

The name of the grand ancestor is Akalaka. Their relations in Rivers State are Ekpeye and Ogba people. The reigning Oba of Benin when Akalaka, the ancestor of Ihruọha (later called Iwhnurọhna) fled was Oba Ewuare (Ogwaro).

It is noteworthy that the pedigree and name of Ikwerre people, Iwhnurọhna, obviously took its root from this original name – Ihruọha. Chief Solomon therefore establishes a very vital historical link, which has been missing in literature on Ikwerre origin that would assume more significance in the discourses of Ikwerre genealogy in the future – the fact that Akalaka was the direct father of Ihruọha (Ikwerre). Iwhnurọhna, in Ikwere parlance, means the face of the community (town, city or village).

Read the above. Akalaka a Benin man gave birth to Iwhnurọhna = both the name of the father and his son are Igbo names and yet he's from Benin.

See also:

Iwhnurọhna

Ihruọha

Impressed at the ingenuity at bastardizing and creatively mispelling Igbo names. See gymnastics. Quite astounding.

Also,

"Iwhnurọhna, in Ikwere parlance, means the face of the community (town, city or village)."

Iwhnurọhna = Ihruọha = Iruoha =
Iroha = face of the community (town, city or village or public or public face in Igbo.

Wow.

So tomorrow someone can say my name is not debola, it's dhebolar and insist on its accuracy.

Anyway, no comment.

Failure is an orphan. Success has many fathers. Focus on yourself. Build your house well. If u do, others will identify with you. They will even beg you for citizenship. US is a case in point.

O gwu m, n'onu.

@OP where is the source? Who is the girl to you?

What a story! If this story is true, it's a sorry world.

She that has ears let her hear!

Do you even understand what trauma is? Trauma is a shock or wound to the system: to
our psychology, body, biology or our soul.

If a male/female child who has been designed by God not to experience sex till adulthood, gets abused, their body and psychology experiences a devastating shock/trauma whether they are consciously aware of it or not.

The child's mind path is corrupted or made dysfunctional for life except there is quality intervention along the way.

Violence does not necessarily mean physical. There's something called psychological violence. Rape, forced or unforced bielongs to this scheme. Rape is evil. Rape is gaining the most intimate of accesses into another's body and soul without their permission.

A child's conscious mind is not developed enough to give this permission. A child cannot give permisson.

A male/female child by definition is thus raped by any sexual encounter.

Even some raped girl- children 'enjoy' the sex and even beg for more from their adult rapists. Does that make the rapist less culpable or the crime less than rape or her life less destroyed? A child may not be able to tell a right from a wrong, an evil from a good- it's the nature of a child.

Rape victims, male or female, are often traumatized for life and exhibit strange, self- or others-destructive or self-sabotaging behaviours as adults to cope with life. That, my friend, is called trauma.

craziebone:
i agree with you when you said you felt no trauma. I do not think a guy would feel any trauma when he was introduced to sex by a woman at the age he wasn't supposed to be introduced to it. This is because, she did not overpower or overwhelm him pe se.

It is the same thing when a guy has sexual activites with a minor girl when he didn't overpower or overwhelm her. He he touched her and the girl gives in, then the girl is not going to suffer trauma very much, but that dosn't mean the whole thing is permissible.

All of these bring me to the conclusion that the trauma people feel from sexual abuse has got nothing to do with peniis and vaagina very much. The trauma comes as a result of being overpowered and overwhelmed that you just cannot do anything physical to stop it. This goes for both men and women. This is the reason why even though i believe the number of stories here represent the prevalence of this epidemic in the real world, i do not trust the men here when they say they suffered trauma. They are claiming trauma because they want to bring up male issues too so as to get back at the so much vile they hear from feminists when ever male of female rape cases come up. You can't blame them, can you?

Wether male on female sexual abuse or the other way round, trauma doesn't come in very much when there was no overpowering and overwhelming.

The only damage that is being done when a man lures a minor girl into sex or a woman lures a minor boy into sex, is in the orientation about what sex is. The whole experience tends to give the minor a false idea of sex which they carry into adulthood and become a problem to the rest of the world and also to themselves.

However, i disagree with you when you said you will kill that man who molests you. Well, that is possible, but most times, victims of such experience are completely broken in will and physical strength.

Anyguy who would rape you is definitely stronger than you. It may even be a group of guys, whish would make the whole thing harder for you. I am sure you've seen "Game of Thrones". You saw what happened to Theon Greyjoy after he was abused and tortured? He was broken completely in physical strength and psychological will even to the point that when his sister came to rescue him from the kennel, he couldn't o with her, accepting that kennel to be his rightful place. He also accepted the name "reek". When Sansa gave him candle to give to that ally, he turned around to betray Sansa even though it was absolutely possible to carry out the plan and it would work! That's what torture does to the human spirit; it breaks you completely! And rape, especially when it involves an over powering of any form that is not seduction, has the same effect too. So i doubt if you will be able to stand up to those guys who would rape you.

TRUTHTOPOWER:
Hesitant like is golden where insults are freely dished out. be that as it may. nothing would give me joy than to see culprits serve jail terms or some of community service as punishment. I know an ex NANS president now in jail for collecting less than 1m under disputed circumstances of studentship and unionism. There are more suspects outside jail than I side jail yet the jail ie bursting at the seams. in any event, some will go to jail for evasion or obstruction of justice. But let's hold our noses to collect our money. It is always to be remembered that even if we preach with fire sons of Lucifer will eventually go to hell. N.B. accept, patriotically, my 'provional like' lol.

Lol. Your provisional like accepted.

TRUTHTOPOWER:
To speak against corruption is to speak against south? why not insist on investigation of all leaders wealth instead of let by gone be by gone. the gospel of 'bygones' is half truth.restitution is the full gospel truth. I am not interested in anyone going to jail, for all have sinned. but let anyone with tax payers money return them conscientiously and go home - and sin no more!

I gave you a hesitant 'like' for this because I'm interested in looters and evil men going to jail. I have the same disdain and bias against them as I have for terrorists and Boko Haram. They are the cause of terrorism and kidnappings and the underdevelopment in this country.

Loot the commonwealth, return the money and go to jail. Loot small change, return the money with a caution to go home and sin no more.

Brugo:
Getting emotional and consoling the ladies won't take the problem away. That's stùpid. There are triggers for rape among lovers / friends. Address those rather than screaming murder. If you refuse to see the sense in preventing but prefer damage control then I have no further words for you as I have addressed these issues already.

So you can't point to your disclaimer again? I chose you particularly out of the legion because you were the most arrogant of the lot.

Next time you see a topic on rape you'll be nicer and speak with more balance.

The major culprit is the rapist. Chase him away first, jail him, rebuke him 1st on the thread. Get mad at him. He has no defence. It's why they are thrown mercilessly in jail easily in other climes. Then you can creatively and sensitively talk about steps to avoiding rape to the womenfolk.

Not the patriachal and mean, it's-your-fault-for- being-raped hogwash being peddled by you and your ilk.

EggovinMma:
God bless you, your parents really train you well.God bless your mother more and more.


Truth is, there are many rapists a d potential rapists here on NL.Those who spent so much time defending rapists here have actually molested or try to molest a woman/women before.

Thanks dear.

The level of support (covert and overt) for rape on this thread is frightening.

We all need to speak out and educate our menfolk and the women on this scourge.

Smh.

Brugo:
Let me state it clearly for the benefit of those who (like you) cannot make inferences from a few paragraphs; I don't support rape.

If you actually believe this emotional outburst of yours is logical then I have no business with you. Now go back and read my initial comments with my disclaimer in mind.

Brugo:
Girl dresses scantily to visit a guy who is sexually active. They get cuddly and start kissing and touching then she says no when he makes further moves to take off her clothes. Not all guys have the will to stop when the process has been initiated.

Ladies if you don't want to get raped, stop setting yourselves up. Don't get to the point of heavy petting then pull away. You may be dealing with a guy who has little control when aroused. You can't put hot coal on your lap and hope it won't burn you.

This is an example of your beautiful nonsense, the warped logic you displayed ubiquitously all over this thread. You call this a disclaimer??

My friend, once a woman says NO, it does not mattter what has happened prior or if she was half naked or led you on or kissed you first or was responding initially, STOP!!! The property you are trying to access is hers. She has a right to tell you to stop whenever she deems fit. You are NOT an ANIMAL. You are a man, with a body that has been given a brain to control the body. Know who you are. Use the damn brain well! Not knowing that you can control your behaviour or your body or your response, no matter the cause, is a terrible type of ignorance.

I'll leave you with this quote:

In other living things, ignorance of themselves is nature, in man it's a vice - Boethius

Brugo:
Lol. I will ignore your feeble attempt at goading me. You were begging the question. I only showed you how "simple" your argument was. Why do you bother with clothes? Why the need for any sense of propriety?

Cause and effect applies in the context which I discussed earlier. Forèplay like the term implies is the precursor to a more intimate experience. Why would you dress like a stripper and initiate or engage in heavy petting and stop halfway then claim you were raped afterwards? Had you not expressed consent already?

My dear you had it coming and you must share in the blame. Note the word "share".

You just have head knowledge without wisdom and Emotional Intelligence. Blatantly displaying your ignorance publicly and without compunction is the hallmark of a fool.

There is something called boundary and territory. A woman's (or man's) body belongs to her completely, moreso her privates. She is the owner. Landlady. The moment she says NO, stop!

(ADDENDUM:The moment you rape her, you have forcefully taken what does not belong to you. You have robbed her in the most intimate and wicked way possible. You have violated her life).

Lack of self-control or restraint is a punishable weakness.

Many in developed countries are languishing in jail because of the warped intelligence you are unashamedly exhibiting here. Many have died or have been harmed for raping a girl as relatives come for revenge.

Rape is mental and psychological trauma. Rape is evil. Many girls are maimed for life. Many re-experience the torture forever.

Your entire argument on this thread is what we call Beautiful Nonsense. Pray for sense pls.

Beremx:
Someone said he's not Igbo and he's been attacked. Can you blame Sunday Oliseh for denying being Igbo?


I am yet to see any Igbo speaking Deltan admitting they are Igbos.

Berem, you are smart, you are intelligent, but sometimes when you make certain statements about your tribe, you come short. Little wonder, the vast majority of Igbos here don't like u.

The above statement u made here is not true. I would understand if someone from another tribe made it but not u, a nwa ada.

For the sake of arguments, even if the statement were true, u know why many would deny being Igbo during and after the war: if u were Deltan and Igbo during the war, it meant certain death or threats to your life or excommunication or deprivation or mockery or jeering or hate of some kind from non-Igbos or from government.

Why don't u balance your views with such insights. That's what an objective, detribalized Igbo would do. Unless of course, u hate your tribe, which I don't believe u do.

Biko, were ire gi guo eze gi onu.

Wepu aka enwe n'ofe ka o hapu igho aka mmadu.

The guy is broken. He's been through some trauma in life: childhood or later in his life. You are not a therapist. You can't fix him. Run for your life now. If you don't, this relationship will kill you. A stressful relationship leads to stressed emotions, which causes dis-ease in the body, which eventually leads to a disease, which might eventually kill.

Run. If you feel powerless to run, get a therapist yourself. Save yourself now.

You are intelligent and have got potentials, use that brain to save your own life now.

Count what counts!

safarigirl:
sorry, I grew up with men so forgive me if my posts have mannish tendencies, like gutter language once in a while.

If you detect anger in my post, you're reading my post wrong. Using curse words does not always translate to anger. And please, i'm not fighting or trying to defend women. A lot of people mistake my posts for such, I would sooner defend men.

Words have syncopation, colour, emotions, tone, meaning and experience. A wise man once said, "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." Some of us can detect the prevailing emotional state and architecture of a speaker or a writer by studying their words. Anyway, a matter for another day.

I don't like excuses. It smacks of victimhood and helplessness. You can choose how you respond to life. If you want to grow in life, quit excuses. That's a real strength there.

Yes, and there's nothing wrong with defending women. Just do it right.

safarigirl:
lol....stop feeling like you started something.

I started writing this thread in the afternoon, but couldn't fi ish it due to otherr engagements. Just posted it this evening, but it's been on my mind for a long time. The Malia Obama mumu thread triggered me to write it.

The daftness of Naija men should be legendary. Last year, a thread of Malia surfaced in a crop top and she was slammed, today that dude brought her as a 'role model' to Naija girls for 'simplicity and modesty'....just cuz she was wearing a dress you can't pass through my school gate in.

Btw, dunno how naija girls are the hoes when yankeee babes start kpanshing at 14 and have gullies for va+ginas before 20

Was digging your beautiful reasoning till I read this. You can't elevate your argument about respecting the Nigerian woman by bringing down women elsewhere. You are helping the men you are attacking reinforce their points about women. You just committed the same offence you were criticizing. And ditch the gutter language and the anger(yes, it shows)-you are more beautiful than that.

jojotemitopaz:
read your recent history properly....read on the history of the crusaders and the roles of the pope in some european nations...bros violence was key.

The history is a different thing. Men who did not understand the bible did bad things. The bible then was meant for only a top few. Now, Christians have bibles and know what's in their bible.

My response earlier was based on what is contained in the bible and what the bible says about Christianity and what Christianity preaches today, which was being mischaracterized here. Had to put the record straight.

Reiyvinn:
Self-deceit. Killing exists in both books (even more in the Bible!). The only diff is the followers of one are gradually accepting modernized civilization while the other won't just let go off their stone-agedness. I no mention names oh!

Christians mean Christ-like. That's New Testament stuff. Slap me and I turn the other cheek teaching. The killings and fights u see in the bible are based on Judaism which is old testament. Christians read the old to help them understand the new.

So, don't get it twisted. Unconditional Love is the prime teaching of Christ.