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Intermission

https://www.nairaland.com/6940959/women-essentially-children-waec
Tis well..

PART VI Addendum:

Women... women women women...

Be it their same-sex antagonism (like cats fighting each other), their painful biological events like menstruation and pregnancy, their speedy aging, their preference for emotions and feelings over logic, their dependence on man, their nigh-perpetual insecurities which powers their constant need to shit-test, their proclivity to repel peace of mind away from their partners, their natural tendency to blameshift, etc.

Apart from the biological attributes, everything else is self-inflicted. As stated previously, their somewhat infantile mind is kept intact partly due to unaccountability; where there is blameshifting there is no growth.
With all these traits and more, one might wonder... is that gender 'cursed'? Are these the results of the original sin? Could a shift in societal expectations and requirements for woman cause a (positive) change?

Who knows..

"A woman simply is, but a man must become."
― Camille Paglia

"A particularly beautiful woman is a source of terror. As a rule, a beautiful woman is a terrible disappointment.”
― Carl Jung

Dpsychologist:


Yea when I was talking about solipsism and rationalization

Ah, thanks. I can't seem to find that piece of info on your red truth post, could have sworn it was under herd mentality...

PART VI:

Women will often point out or accuse people of things they are guilty of. A woman will brokeshame a man when she herself is broke, and even when she's not broke her finances are still likely powered by men. A woman will be repulsed by liars when she herself is accustomed to deceit---her tools of survival (such as makeup, fake hair/lashes, pushup/padded bra, etc.)---like a child with zero self awareness she does not ask herself if she possesses the same traits she has an aversion for. And like that, she keeps herself in a state of perpetual immaturity... the eternal adolescent...

"A woman does not want the truth; what is truth to women? From the beginning, nothing has been more alien, repugnant, and hostile to woman than the truth - her great art is the lie, her highest concern is mere appearance and beauty."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

The big mistake most men make is to subconsciously hold women to the same standard as themselves. For example, man thinks highly of honour and thinks a child (woman) thinks like him, a child has no need for honor. What is honor to a child? Man sees woman behaving religiously and assumes she is pure and free for dissimulation---a fool he is---he forgets, or perhaps doesn't know, that she is a woman first and a christian second.
If she was born in the middle east she would be a woman first and a muslim second. The former (her gender and female nature) is a 'constant'. The latter is merely a 'variable'.

Another example, it's deemed shameful for a man to cry (in public), he sees woman crying and immediately takes pity as a parent would do for their child. It does not occur to him that women have been given free reign to cry whenever wherever without judgment or being shamed. She has had years/decades to perfect her ability; her ability to evoke her own emotions and falsify her tears for purpose of getting her way.

"The tears of a woman can only be deemed true when she cries in solitude. The tears of a man wherever he may be is most likely true as this is a rare occurrence."

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For those who wish to relinquish the ways of Homer Simpson:
https://www.nairaland.com/6940959/women-essentially-children-waec

PART V:

Children are not very complex. Their characters may differ but on a base level they are all alike. Their tendencies, what they like, hate, how to discipline them.. as women are essentially grown children, they are also identical on a base level. You've probably heard or seen the acronym AWALT meaning All Women Are Like That.

No matter the differences in behaviour or character in the present moment, the 'female nature' will always be dominant and will eventually determine said behaviours and character. (Further touched on in PART VI)

Manipulation, lack of self awareness and unaccountability; these are signature traits of children (the first trait is often present in the 'clever' child), and 'coincidentally', women.
Parents (typically the male parent) can stomp the growth of these traits at a young age, but with women these traits are enabled and reinforced by males. In this way, men are also (or mostly) responsible for the infantilization of women (especially in societies like Nigeria where the boyfriend automatically takes the role of provider/father).


Thought Experiment: What would happen if you put a child in charge of a society or civilization?
Children aren't known for their rationality and strong emotional control but for the opposite. The end result would be a collapse of civilisation like ancient Egypt which began to collapse under the rule of Cleopatra. Even England "ruled" by queens is still standing because the queen(s), like Cleopatra, are basically figureheads for the prime minister.

If civilization was left in the hands of women, at best we would currently be in the 14th or 15th century in terms of scientific, medical and technological advancements, and that's being optimistic.

"If civilization had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts."
— Camille Paglia

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LordIsaac:
This is great. Going by Esther Vilar's thesis, the predators will try to fight you, but know this, you are doing a good work.

Understandable and expected. Everyone thinks they're right from their own perspectives.
If stop a thief's source of income (stealing) you'll be doing a service to those around, but the thief will simply see you as an enemy.
Also, thank you.

Please, to prevent the derailing of this thread (and save your strength and time for more 'fruitful' ventures) refer to PART IV and its addendum. @Favfables1

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Addendum for PART IV:

"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
- Mark Twain

Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
Or you will also be like him.
Answer a fool as his folly deserves,
That he not be wise in his own eyes.

What does one hope to gain when they argue with children? At the end, children will simply do and follow what feels right to them and one would be left wondering what they've achieved by engaging in such folly.
When someone drags you down to their level, they've shown you that they were already beneath you.

PART IV:

"When your only tool is a hammer (sex), you treat all your problems like nails."

As stated earlier, sex is the magnum opus of a vast majority of women. If one should have a discussion with a female about what men and women offer each other in a relationship one would hear the usual clichéd response like "support, love" etc., most are aware of the 'sex is all they have to offer' notion, but despite this, if you let them talk long enough they'll eventually circle back to sex.

"A woman needs a man as a child needs its parents."

It's interesting how a woman's life completely revolves around a man. Even a simp's life doesn't 100% revolve around women because they still need to thrive financially and get money to spend on women, whereas a woman's value is merely her gender and body as is.

Like a child, their typical defence mechanisms are rationalisations and deflections. The latter is very often seen when women are being criticised, you'll hear "what about men that..." as if that invalidates the criticism or argument at hand.
Of course, there's also blame-shifting and S.I.G.N Language (Shaming, Insults, Guilting and Need to be right), the more emotional or triggered a woman is, the higher the tendency of them resorting to S.I.G.N Language; because of its effectiveness on many men and its simplicity (since it doesn't require acumen, rationality or much intelligence) this "language" is the preferred means of communication for most women (take note of this, as S.I.G.N language rarely fails to show up in an argument or even discussion with women).

When one spots ad hominem or the aforementioned s.i.g.n language, heed the words of Mark Twain:

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
And believe me, a vast majority of women have amassed enough 'experience' from childhood to adulthood.

This egocentrism can be seen in their selection of a partner. A child doesn't want a strict parent even though the discipline from said parent will help the child in the long run; a woman doesn't want a disciplined man that she can't control/manipulate (with sex), for cunning and manipulation is her means of survival, and those means are rendered useless when not used against naive/oblivious men. Interestingly, if one were to ask these same women if they'd want their brothers or sons to marry a manipulative woman (like them) they would say "no". This is often the main reason why mother in laws and their daughter in laws don't get along.

Whereas a child's egocentrism is unintentional due to their young, inexperienced minds, a woman's egocentrism is malicious as it would manifest into machiavellian behaviours that women are infamous for.

Throughout history, many men who have thrived in their respective fields have something in common:
Lack of women in their lives.
If one were to be very blunt, or misogynistic depending on who's reading, one might come to the conclusion that women simply hold men back. A child will grow and hopefully fend for themselves, but woman---the eternal adolescent---will be taken care of perpetually by her man, redirecting man's time, energy and resources to herself while giving naught (but sex) in return.

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PART III:

The fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflexion but it is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies: for, as nature has equipped the lion with claws and teeth, the elephant with tusks, the wild boar with fangs, the bull with horns and the cuttlefish with ink, so it has equipped woman with the power of dissimulation as her means of attack and defence, and has transformed into this gift all the strength it has bestowed on man in the form of physical strength and the power of reasoning. Dissimulation is thus inborn in her and consequently to be found in the stupid woman almost as often as in the clever one. To make use of it at every opportunity is as natural to her as it is for an animal to employ its means of defence whenever it is attacked, and when she does so she feels that to some extent she is only exercising her rights. A completely truthful woman who does not practice dissimulation is perhaps an impossibility, which is why women see through the dissimulation of others so easily it is inadvisable to attempt it with them. – But this fundamental defect which I have said they possess, together with all that is associated with it, gives rise to falsity, unfaithfulness, treachery, ingratitude, etc. Women are guilty of perjury far more often than men. It is questionable whether they ought to be allowed to take an oath at all.
- Arthur Schopenhauer

As stated in the quote, nature has bestowed onto women dissimulation as their attack and defence, even in their day to day lives. That's why makeup and fake hair is very common amongst women...

Why else would one pay money to attach synthetic hair or real hair harvested from the scalps of other humans to their own heads? (On top the discomfort that comes with it like their head scratching them because they can't let water touch the hair or inability to sleep properly)...

"The beauty accessories women use perform the same function as a hunter's collection of weapons. The discomfort borne in carrying and maintaining them is offset by the acquisition of the prey (man)."
- ReacherSaidNoth


Addendum: This post is not an attempt to antagonise or degrade women but to try and explain why exhibiting childish behaviour is far more prevalent in women than men in our society, as having childlike behaviours and mindsets along with it's "perks" is NOT exclusive to one gender. Every behaviour has an origin and you may not be responsible for your upbringing or how people treated you, but you ARE responsible for how you treat others so please be compassionate to others as you'd be to yourself.

Truvelisback:
Meaning?

I dey hail you na

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PART III:

One can make an argument that women don't really have much to offer other than sex, and their stance in that argument will be understandable. I remember someone saying if sex was removed, they'd rather be stuck on an island with a man than a woman. Having a child is the only good reason I can think of for being with a woman, everything else like cooking and cleaning can be done by a man (or a maid; cheaper without the liability of a relationship). In the long run, a relationship is a win for woman and a loss for man.

One might even wonder what's the benefit of even befriending a woman? They're rarely (if ever) genuinely funny and eventually a friendship with them will lead to them asking you for things or being disrespectful i.e., entitlement or over-familiarity.

Familiarity breeds comfort, comfort breeds contempt.

If you spoil a child (woman) the child will lose respect for you and become contemptful towards you but if you take charge and draw a hard line with them, they'll be respectful, or at least, behave themselves.

Whereas a man can genuinely befriend a woman (as he assumes her friendship will be worthwhile like that of his fellow man), a woman is almost always friends with a man for what she benefits from him, in most cases, money/gifts and attention (that they need to optimally function).

Solipsism and egocentrism --- these two factors are the building blocks for why women don't like themselves.
"Women know themselves and they hate each other."
In need of help, a man will most likely meet a man for help; a woman will most likely meet a man for help.
Something I find comical is when they say "A woman is so complicated that she doesn't even understand herself." --- a person that doesn't understand themselves... is that not a confused person?

As confusing as women may seem there is a method to their madness, if one perceives the antics and behaviour of a woman as those of a child then the feminine "haze" becomes clearer.

Typing... @odinson1 GoodHarddick TheGidRedPiller

PART II:

In Esther Vilar's 'The Manipulated Man'---it explores the concept of the "dishonest wh*re"---explaining that deep down women want to be paid dates, gifts, cash and in fact, a combination of all, for the "access" they grant a man.

Now, because they don't want to be tagged wh*res, they keep that expectation implicit, and throw all the coy signs that they expect a man to read.
Having consensual sex and tagging a man "stingy" because he gave nothing or not something enough (even when there wasn't a pre-agreed term of payment) is that wh*redom at play.

It's "dishonest" because it is within that "I'm not a wh*re" guise, but it's wh*redom nonetheless because they expected to be paid for their time and the access granted.


Here's some quotes from Esther Vilar's The Manipulated Man:

●"Any qualities in a man that a woman finds useful, she calls masculine, all
others, of no use to her or to anyone else for that matter, she chooses to call
effeminate."

●"By the age of twelve at the latest, most women have decided to become
prostitutes. Or, to put it another way, they have planned a future for
themselves which consists of choosing a man and letting him do all the
work. In return for his support, they are prepared to let him make use of
their vagina at certain given moments. The minute a woman has made this
decision she ceases to develop her mind."

●"Woman's greatest ideal is a life without work or responsibility — yet
who needs such a life but a child? A child with appealing eyes, a funny
little body with dimples and sweet layers of baby fat and clear, taut skin —
that darling miniature of an adult. It is a child that woman imitates — its
easy laugh, its helplessness, its need for protection. A child must be cared
for; it cannot look after itself. And what species does not, by natural instinct, look after its offspring? It must — or the species will die out.
With the aid of skillfully applied cosmetics, designed to preserve that
precious baby look; with the aid of helpless, appealing babble and
exclamations such as "Oooh" and "Ah," to denote astonishment, surprise,
and admiration; with inane little bursts of conversation, women have preserved this "baby look" for as long as possible so as to make the world continue to believe in the darling, sweet little girl she once was, and she relies on the protective instinct in man to make him take care of her."

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PART I:

“Women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling matters to the most important.”
— Arthur Schopenhauer

Logic in its pure form is difficult to harness and that makes it fulfilling. Emotions are reactions akin to base instincts of an animal, effortless to wield. Society demands that men be logical and rational in order to build, provide and protect. Because men fill this role society grants women the exemption of this requirement, hence; women are allowed to be emotional and irrational.

Marie Curie was a brilliant scientist who is well known for her amazing discoveries in radioactivity during the late 19th/early 20th century. In terms of brilliance, for every Marie Curie on one side of the scale there's a countless number of women on the opposite end of the scale.

Women are very similar to children in many ways---emotionally, physically (compared to men), logically, etc. If you look at women like kids (or juvenile adults), a lot of their actions and behaviours starts to "make sense."

Kids are naturally solipsistic/egocentric.
If you give/gift a child something, it's socially frowned upon to take it back, and since women are more 'shrewd/aware' in social situations, they have the added ability of employing 'shame tactics' (not unlike some kids anyway) to get their way.
If a kid gifts you something and later wants it back for whatever reason, they won't hesitate nor contemplate "dignity" because they're "helpless" and "weak" compared to you.

"A man's facade of strength is his weakness (ego), a woman's facade of weakness is her strength (victimhood)."

If you don't control or 'take charge' of a child, the child will disrespect and take advantage of you. They'll hit, slap or insult you without a second thought because "adults" will back them up if you retaliate (especially after utilising their tear ducts to show their "innocence." )
"Leave am, na pikin.."---"Leave am, she be woman.."
If one doesn't face or gets absolved of the consequences/repercussions of their actions/behaviour, they don't learn so they don't grow, a la 'spoilt children'.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4akMaeZ0-k
(2 minute video, skip to @ 01:00). See how she slapped him without hesitation, was shocked that her actions have consequences and then other men rushed and beat up him up.
Also, the guy proceeded to sue the show, win, and become an actor whereas the lady's career is seemingly ruined (I'm not promoting violence but I'm not promoting being a simp/doormat either).

You'll hear "A real man wouldn't/shouldn't..", "Aren't you ashamed?", "You be man oh", etc.
But like Esther Vilar stated-- "Any qualities in a man that a woman finds useful (in this case, gifts and money), she calls masculine, all
others, of no use to her or to anyone else for that matter, she chooses to call
effeminate."

"Once a woman realises she can get through life on her looks, her mind stops maturing."

As a man, you probably dreamt of being an astronaut, a prince or your favourite fictional character when you were younger but you grew older, became matured, and left those dreams behind.
Little girls are 'taught' to marry rich/wealthy men that will take care of them. They get older but still retain this 'ideology'.
Once they acknowledge this "reality", their development is likely stunted, they put in less effort/work into their growth and retain neotenic mindsets and behaviours, which is further reinforced by society giving women child-like benefits and accountability (or lack thereof).

ubunja:
married women are exactly what you're saying....
And the fact that women are never satisfied with anything there's almost a 100% chance there's something pissing her off with hubby or something she's not really happy about. Even though she looks happy. It's when you talk to her that the cracks appear. Talk shit about married men, she'll automatically defend her own,, talk nice about married men and she'll let you know husbands are not that much angelic. And she'll start criticizing her own. Same with boyfriends. Attack her BF she'll defend him. Defend her BF she'll attack him.

Interesting.. I remember someone (I think Dpsychologist) commenting something along the lines of... If one should make a statement against most women, the woman will identify with 'most' and get defensive like "not all women do that/are like that" but if the statement about 'most' women is positive they'll gladly identify with most.
Is this the same mental phenomenon?

Herbsworks:
I always get angry when I hear people asking others to forget about things like it didn’t matter. Nigeria is where it is today because of the forgiveness doctrine which is why people can misbehave and expect you to forgive and forget like it never happened. People should be made to pay for their sins.

I’m not advising the man to divorce his wife cos of that but he should teach her a lesson in his own way so that she won’t try such nonsense next time. Mind you 2M is not small money that he should just let go like that.

One should forgive to let go of resentment (as resentment is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die) but that doesn't necessarily mean one should 'forget'. Forgive some people in your mind but not openly (to their face) because some people take 'open' forgiveness as a permit to eventually continue the nonsense that they do, but just forgive in your mind and keep some distance then watch how the person behaves themselves.

Dare I say, that "forgive and forget" thing is often toxic. Yes, I understand what the phrase means, and I also understand that behaviours are psychological patterns and one thing I know about patterns is that they repeat themselves. That phrase not only inhibits situational or behavioural awareness but is also the glue that holds most toxic relationships together.

One can make the argument that a component of trust is allowing someone else the ability to harm you with the expectation that they'll never use that ability. If you know that somebody is definitely going to harm you then giving them that power is not trust. It's recklessness."
- Dr. Grande

Hedgefunds:
Pls note she was a sweet lady who has never ask me for 1 naira during out staying together overseas, we came to naija and in less than 1 yr her character is something else. The thought of my kids is what holding me . Pls advice.

Chameleon tactics. When they've gotten what they wanted (marriage/children) they now have leverage whereas the man has all the leverage before marriage. Their true character/behavior is often overlooked due to 'sex, looks or love' and later it appears like they've suddenly "changed".
That's why a keen eye and patience is necessary when vetting a woman because even if they're pretending there'll still be glimpses of their real character every now and then.

The thought of kids is what holds many men back, it's sort of like a 'sunk cost fallacy' thing. Pros and cons. Pro: You're doing it for the kids Con: Playing the role of an ATM. People don't love atms, they love what the atm gives them.