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CharlyG1:
SOCOM is okay, It was actually a game hyped by SONY. Play these similar games below then U'll understand what i mean. These are better.

Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow
Syphon Filter : Dark Mirror
Medal of Honor: Heroes
Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker
Resistance Retribution

Thanks a lot .
Have you finished soccom 2, have some questions I wanna ask .

Now this is another version of trinity. Do you, malvisguy212 and richirich713 agree with doubledeex version of trinity?

Emusan:
That means you're not a man of your word!
Or you discovered that the link is not in support of watchtower society and you decided to silent the issue.

Sometimes I find it hard to understand why you are quick to jump into conclusions concerning me. I asked you simple questions concerning the promise you said I made. You did not answer on that one.

I made simple, honest remark as to the supposed promise, if its true that I made such promise, let me see it! , I will apologise for my mistakes and try to make amends. I'm not perfect .

These simple request I make and you decided to accuse me!
This is not a fight where we will be looking for a winner, dnt try to bring me down, let's use the scriptures to discuss.

I vividly remember I gave you the link where you can get it because your organization has removed the booklet in their online library and stopped the publication.

This is the link again: http://thesnarkyapologist..com/2013/02/should-you-believe-in-trinity-booklet.html

Bro, are we here to discuss what an organization says or our beliefs concerning trinity, using the scriptures as main guide. Tell me ur view on trinity and ill tell you mine, and we will use the scripture as guide.
If you have issues with any organization, get in touch with them! Not me. They have an address, a location where all ur issues can be pursued by you and addressed.

As to the booklet, I've not read it!
But pls tell, has the authors of the book changed their views on trinity?
Why don't they publish the book any longer?

johnw74:
confusion always with you

The question is not for you, it was for Anas09 and I'm still waiting for a reply.
The question is not confusing neither is it meant to create confusion, unless if you both feel that answering it might show the difference in ur understandings.

when i discuss truth i don't discuss with those who call themselves
Jehovahs Witnesses, but are not, and do lie, and are the church of satan.

Everyone already knows your stand and what you say when you re about to be shown how wrong you are.

Emusan:
You promised me sometimes ago that you will get the booklet published by Watchtower Society title "Should you believe in Trinity?" Have you gotten the booklet?

Did I promise I will get the booklet? I can't remember making such promise. But if I really did, pls remind me where and when and ill apologise for my error.

As to the question, the answer is "no".

OLAADEGBU:
I suppose the post above addresses your question.

Is that ur own view of trinity?
Does everyone who believes in trinity accept same view as urs?
Does that diagram explain the relationship between the three?
Do you have scriptures that explain trinity, I mean the relationship between the 3?

Does the belief by some that the Catholics compiled the bible now become the pillar for their use of images, expecially that of mary?
What is the correlation between compiling the bible and the use of mary's images?.

Anas09:
@Muttleylaff.
I have read from the beginning of this thread till now. I must say, you know your Onions. You Really have studies to show urself aproved to God, a workman...

But I lost you at the point u said, Jesus was an Angel? The Jw imply that because Angels are messangers and God sent Jesus, that makes them all Angels. No bro. You, right now is God's messanger, by virtue of this gospel you are propagating, but that doesn't make U an angel(celestial). Although, I can give you an angelic attributes depending on the role u play in my life.
E.g. A security guard in a bank, saved me from walking into the trap of armed rubbers cascading as Taxi driver and passengers. (ONE CHANCE). He recognised them, I didn't.
He was my angel that day. You get me? You are far more vast in this than I, but I know u understand what am saying.

Can you tell us who an angel is?
Are angels messengers?
Are they spirit creatures?
Does jesus fufill the answers to the two questions mentioned above.?

@JohnW. you are my guy too, pls let it go. Go on with what you have been doing, you also kept me on this thread.

Do you support his quotes on 1Tim 3:16 and john 5:7 ?

The JW in the house.
Bernimoore
Jessics
Truthislife
Dolphinheart. etc.
I just have one question. Why do u guys ignore clear scriptures abt God not calling any angel any day his Son, but rather pull out suggestive scriptures that implies and surggests that Jesus was an Angel?

Which scripture did god say clearly that he did not call any angel any day his son .

Johnw has been posting those scriptures from the beginning of this thread, but none of you have touched it, why?

I did ask him some questions on the scriptures he quoted, but he refuses to answer. Maybe ill ask you to help me ask him if you are interested.

Instead of trying to convince us that what Heb 1:5-8, 13, is saying is not actually what it means, you guys just total ignore it.
What I see you guys doing here is, 'Post Hoc, 'Ergo Proper Hoc'. By saying, 'since Angels are messangers, and God sent Jesus with a message that invariably makes Jesus an Angel'. With all the glaring scriptures that says otherwise.

This point was where I fell out from JW. I wasn't really one anywahere, I just was at the treshhold, when I discovered they have an ish with the deity, Godhead, and divinity of Christ. I turned back from the door.

They taught you using the scriptures that jesus is not almighty God, that he is still subjected to the one who gave him such authority.

They taught you with the scriptures that jesus inherited a name, which means that at a time, he did not have that name but was giving to him by someone who has the right to give him such name.

They taught you with the scriptures that jesus was set by his god above his companions and was Anointed by his god.

Yet you decide to follow the philosophy of men and the man made doctrines that existed with pagans. You decided to understand and explain the scriptures in a way that supports your views .

Jesus has said it , the only true God is the father. He sent jesus, jesus prays to him and tells us his life is by him, that the father is greater than him!. That when he even ascended to meet the father,his God, he was told to sit by his right side and not on the same throne god sits. I choose to Worship the God that sits on that throne, the one true God, the father, the god of jesus, the sovereign lord, The one who loves me so much to send someone to come give me an opportunity to gain life everlasting.
[quote ]@Truthislife, you kept saying let scriptures lead us, but you ignore the ones staring you in the face. What with u guys?[/quote]

mubarakopeyemi:
you care for some?

No thanks, I try hard not to consume unhygienic stuffs.

mubarakopeyemi:

Well, my own god said I should not use vile, bad , derogatory, demeaning words. Maybe your god agrees to the words used in that picture!

Can anyone recommend any game similar to soccom ? .
Pls who has finished soccom 2.

mubarakopeyemi:


dont thank me thank God

Which god, urs that has no fufilled prophecy or mine that has proven himself sovereign lord over all created things. Whose prophecies has been shown to be fufilled countless of times.

italo3:
So the Israelites bowed to images with God's approval?

I never said that and neither did the scriptures.

So as long as the Bible shows where God commanded an image to be made, it can be bowed to?

No.

Let us use the scriptures to explain our views. Pls discuss with me, let's examine the images made by the isrealites one by one and let's compare them to the image(s) of Mary.
Let's here if the prove of veneration made to these images can find scriptural similarity to that of veneration giving to the image(s) of Mary.
Pls tell on these thread one veneration giving to an image in the scriptures and let us discuss it, then we compare the facts on that image to that of Mary and see if its right to make images for Mary or not.

kennykg:
I love that part had to watch it 5times.

I'm having the ideas, dike is having the talent........
Konfu!,konfu!, konfu!......

If Those guys where allowed to grow, we probably wunt even know there are movie magic channels. African movies would have been enough.

Ubenedictus:
so wen moses made d ark it wasn't made for themselves? Mayb for someone else?

U read my post, you read my request, yet you now ask this question?.
Did you not read the precise instructions giving to moses about the construction of the ark?
If the ark was constructed by moses for his people and god said " do not make for urselfs", yet they made the ark for themselves, does this not tell you what "do not make for yourselves" really mean.?

The instruction of God didnt make any image, d images werent made by d instruction of God, it was made under the instruction of God by mortals for mortal. So to clarify d people made an image for themselves under divine instructions.

1. Good, those images where made by those who made it under divine instructions. it was recorded in the scriptures.
2. Those images would not have been made by those who made it without those instructions. those instructions where very specific and detailed, these details they followed, and where recorded in the scriptures.
3. Those images would not have existed without the directive from god that it should be constructed. Those directives where recorded in the scriptures.

Now apply these to the image(s) of Mary and let's see where we are.

I'll like to hear how u interprete d phrase "make for yourselves"

”Do not make for yourself” means ”do not make for yourself”

mubarakopeyemi:
Allah and Psalms are you even okay at all

Yep, if I'm wrong, let's here you.

mubarakopeyemi:
OMG! I see...
pls go and rest sir.
Thanks for your contribution(s)

Good that your eyes re now opened
Thanks for the advise
Thanks again for thanking me .

mubarakopeyemi:
Nonsense. BTW

Somewhere in the Bible...

Leviticus 24:16

Anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD is to be put to death. The entire assembly must stone
them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death.


OMG! what's this shit up there ^^^

That was allahs instruction, abi no be him give moses the book again?

mubarakopeyemi:
keep me company dear brother.
Your hilarity is of no match
so you have no source for psalm 91
All hail the Bible
Psalm 91 with no source but probably from moses





















Bushi.t

But I just told you it came from allah na , I'm I wrong ?

Ubenedictus:
i always find u guys funny. My bible actually says d letter of d law killet, somewhere else it says what was written in d past was written for our instruction. The passage wasn't written so we will go about looking for an ancient ark, it was written so we will understand the divine principle behind it and put the principle into practice.

The principle here is simple, God is not against the religious use of images, he never has been! he is against the adoration of idols.
Learn and practice d principle and stop looking for an ancient artifact.

Kk, give us examples of images that the isrealites bowed to, And let's see if those images are not made by direct instructions from god. Do not make for yourself , that was the instruction.

mubarakopeyemi:
a quick one. Where did this psalm 91 come from. one of your sis said probably from moses or that the author is unknown ?

U quoted it na, so it must have come from allah, I'm I wrong?

What is trinity? . I can bet some of ur views might be different!

italo3:
The ark was an image of a house that contained images of angels...and God approved prostration before it.

Why can't Catholics do the same?

You can do that na, when you find And see the ark!.

Just watched 'beast of no nation".
War no good o!, Jeremiah was right , man cannot live to guide his own steps. Who wan buy "imaginary TV"....loved that 3D part.

@ DoubleDeeX

I don't know who your teacher is but mine is the holyghost and He bears me witness that God is NOT three persons in one, but ONE God manifested in three offices for the redemption of man.

False analogy . If I'm wrong, proof it!

Is as simply as that...If your Pastor/Church taught you
anything contrary to the above
then go back and study for
yourself, salvation is a personal thing!

I learnt/still learning by studying the scriptures.

I will advice you to put your church doctrines and Sunday school teachings to true biblical test and you will understand what I'm talking about.

I will advise you to do same.

The word of God will judge us all and NOT Church teachings/doctrines; so, you'd better study to show yourself approved unto God as written in 2 Timothy 2:15.
Shalom!

I will advise that you follow ur advise.

How do you use the scriptures to explain one god manifested in 3 offices .

DoubleDeeX:
I don't like debating trinity because we've been doing that here for years unfortunately it seems not every one is revelated enough to receive it. Let me quickly explain something to all the trinitarians on this thread.

Our God is One! He only manifested in three offices for the salvation of man. The man Jesus Christ is a human body that the LORD God Almighty created to use for sacrifice for the purpose of the redemption of man; because only man can redeem man and the one doing the redemptive work must be free from sin. No man was found without sin in the law which why was why God Himself came down in a man to fullfilled the law and establish a new covenant for the redemption of man.

So Jesus was 100% man and at the same time 100% God in the spirit because the fullness of the Godhead dwelleth in him bodily. For it is written, "God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself". So, Jesus Christ, after resurrection went back to being the eternal spirit that he was before manifesting in the flesh. That's why Christ in every believer is the hope of glory...His spirit lives in all we are established in the covenant of peace sealed till the day of redemption (Ephesians 4:30).

Regarding baptism, consider the following scriptures...these are clear evidences that Jesus Christ is the manifestation of God Almighty in the flesh;

Matthew 1:18

Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.

^^^

Jesus is the child of the Holy ghost carrying the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

John 5:43

I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.

^^^
Now the scripture above clearly shows that Jesus is the name of the Father given to the son for the purpose of redemption.

John 17:6

I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.

^^^

That was Jesus there talking to the Father; also a clear indication that the name "Jesus" is the name of the Father.

John 14:26

But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

^^^

The above is also an undeniable evidence that the Holy ghost came in the same name "Jesus".


Act 2:38

Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit".

^^^

That was why the early Apostles did all water baptism in the name of "Jesus Christ" and NOT father, son and holyghost ...The never repeated Matthew 28:19 because they knew that Jesus is the name of God for redemption;  which is the same name of the Father and of the son and of the Holy ghost!

False analogy

Trinity is a false doctrine . Not surported by the scriptures .

plappville:
Muhammad (Tbuh) curse is be falling muslims nations. Allah can't even save them. Breaking news Earthquake in Afghan and Pakist. How many Muslims have died miserably recently? Soudi syrian afghan pakinsthe ecetetc..where is alla.h

The stakes that mo put in those mountains to hold the earth is shaking!.

The Greek scholars know most of these 2000 years before mo.
the demons know all these.

Can mo predict the future like jesus did?
Does allah have fufilled prophecies that can't be fufilled any other way like jehovah has done.?

truthislight:
@Muttleylaff

You don't give answers to questions when directly given to you, what you do is play around the question and hope that the issue has been glossed over and you accuse the questioner of "nit picking".

The above attititude does not encouraged assimilation and knowledge sharing.

If you imagined that you can blind fold human, can God be blind folded?

Stop dancing around questions and learn to allow the Bible to speak. That is, let all those plenty words of yours that cannot give life nor change the color of human hair be quoting directly from the word of God.

You allow your playing with words which you do a lot to override seriousness on serious matters, which should not be, but priority should rather be given to the Word of God and not on your own words.

Read your post here again and see which you projected the most: God's word or your own words.

Prov. 3:5-7

Trust in Jehovahe with all your heart,
And do not rely on your own understanding.
 6 In all your ways take notice of him,
And he will make your paths straight.
 7 Do not become wise in your own eyes.
Fear Jehovah and turn away from bad.
.................................................................

I could not have replied better!

Ive found out that the use of words is verry important when discussing scriptural issues, hence why I asked about "god the son " statement that has been coming up in the thread. But I was accused of "nit picking".

@ Empiree

Keep deceiving yourself.

are they not sinful again?

And who allowed it?. If it was allowed for them, why it can't be allowed for us?

ask mo why some things like alcohol are not allowed again.

A woman you marry as second or third or fourth wife is not side chick. You marry her legally with her guardian permission and pay dowry. Thats not mistress. garrit?

give her any name, call her by any Title, hand her any legal papers ,in the eyes of jehovah, she is not ur wife! .

Yes, same desire of 'flesh' but different desires of 'feelings'. You LUST for a side chick (mistress) but you LOVE wives (1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th) cus you legally marry them. Thats love. Spot the difference?

You love first one, you marry her, yet you are not contented, you see another fine woman , your eye enter am, you call it love, you marry her, still not contented, you see a 3rd and then a 4th. You marry all of them, you say its love. Bro octopus with multiple hearts sef go find problem with apportioning all those love love.
Its ur lust, ur inability to see good in ur wife, ur belief in the fact that she is incapable of satisfying you , ur ojukokoro, ur fleshly desire that is pushing to go for another wife under the pretence of love.
You claim its love, but we know its lust and the desire of the flesh, the same problem affecting those that carry side chick and mistresses.

And if wife of your youth passes away, you aint going to re-marry anymore?.

if she passes away, you re free to marry.

If she reaches her
menopause or having intimacy
problems while you still need
more children, you aint going to re-marry anymore?. smh

Desire of the flesh Bro. Hold on with ur woman and grow old together. Do not cast her aside cus her body cannot give you ur 10 seconds enjoyments again.
Can a woman marry another if her man cannot satisfy her, can she have 2 husbands?.

Tried to read the op, but I realised say I go need paraceramol if I try finish am . Pls rearrange the post.