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debosky:
Nani off for Hernandez. . . .this injury might be a turning point this season.

Yeah, but I don't like the way such a turning point came about. Carragher is an id.iot, what sort of tackle is that on another professional. totally malicious. Hope Nani is okay, that gash looked deep.

Can't complain about the lads' performance yesterday, it was just one of those days. Bring on the Camp Nou.

If no one has nothing bad to say about you, then I'm sorry yu don't matter or amount to much. Sorry people with empty lives needs others with meaningful lives to talk about. "Carry go" Oprah, let them talk and keep going strong.

@ideylaff

I wondered then why they were so hard on Paddy Kenny, I'm not aware that Ephedrine in anyway improves one's reflexes or concentration as a GK, infact I thought it would be counterproductive. And how much stamina exactly do you need as a Goalie?

I feel for Kolo but it does show however that Sports's professionals of any kind shouldn't take anything they ingest or even inhale for granted, they'd better stay far from the scummie's thread and all the weed they smoke in there.

Which one be two pack again? is that a new name for moobs and a bulging stomach?

Trust the english media to remind us of his ties to Arsenal, info is vague and conclusions shouldnt be made so quickly. They did say that "A 'specified substance' is, as the World Anti-Doping Agency defines it, one that is "more susceptible to a credible, non-doping explanation"
there are reports its from a dietary supplement.

RuuDie:
DK,

Whats the Dortmund photo doing on your Bollywood pages. . .

He is preparing for a season of silverware drought. DK, when are you going to change the title of the thread?

1025:
@duduspace,
what i like most about your analysis here is the humility. u sound so humble.
if you know all these, why did u sign a condolence register confirming the death of chelsea in less than a season when your own club has gone six yrs trophiless?
was it another way of saying that he that is down(arsenal) needs fear no fall?
u must be reasonable in all your analyses to avoid been called a partial judge.
who will take u serious if u leave your club that has refused to win anything in six yrs and then crucify a team that is still the champion? think am well broda.

Wetin concern yu with what I posted elsewhere are yu a stalker? 

I can justify why Arsenal haven't won trophies in a while by the simple fact that we've incurred debt to build a stadium, I believe we are doing close to miracles at present in that club, just go and ask Ajax what befell them and they are still struggling with after they used their success in the 90s to build the Amsterdam arena.
I know very well what state my club is in right now and I'm certain we will win a major trophy in 2 years at the most, I still believe we are positioned to win something this season.

The reason why I will write as I choose to about Chelsea is simple, they have actually spent more than we spent to build our stadium on player signing and wages alone between 2004 and now. If they are so lacking in foresight that their team had to get this bad, then they are deserving of any epitaph anyone writes for them. On expenditure alone, no one should be close to them at all, not even Manure.

In my opinion, the major cause of broken relationships is simply a lack of understanding or plain avoidance of the immediately obvious fact that some people are naturally born swingers who can never be committed to anything in life so its better not to start any sort of relationship with them in the first instance. I must say however that even such swingers atimes have stable relationships as long as their partners accept them for who they are.
At the end of the day relationships are about acceptance, which is why Sean Connery is able to stay married for over 50 years to a wife he periodically smacks in the mouth even in a society that abhors domestic violence while some of those who condemn him are unable to stay in a relationship for 3 days.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7831871#msg7831871 date=1299087124]there's no single link that says messi's goal was marginally offside. . . .cnn simply told you the reason the goal was disallowed by the referee. they did not say they thought messi was offside. there's a difference between the two.[/quote]You miss the point, so I'm not discussing this any further, yu initially made it sound like everyone knew it was off. I only showed you that even from the same page yu pasted by yourself that they were not all saying what yu claimed, if you can't understand that, I rest my case.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7831871#msg7831871 date=1299087124]and i have told you winning trophies and posting huge profits go hand in hand. . . .ian wright(arsenal legend) said this yesterday. . . . "don't brag about cash when we are still potless. we were told about a 'robust financial performance' which was an overall loss of £2.5million - and compared to other clubs, these are very good figures.

yet the fact the club started talking about finances the day after a carling cup final defeat rubbed salt into the wounds.
because, had arsene wenger invested in a defender in the january transfer window, maybe arsenal would have won their first trophy since 2005"[/quote]And what exactly qualifies Ian Wright to run a club and what experience does he have in how a club should be financed? whether we won or not, the results were already scheduled to come out on that day, he is welcomed to rant if he's disappointed we lost, other legends from the club approach issues in a more measured and reasonable manner.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7831871#msg7831871 date=1299087124]that was exactly what birmingham fans must have thought in 1969(six years into their drought) that their day will come sooner than we thought. man city have gone 35 years now with no sign of winning anything in sight. arsenal are in their 6th year, liverpool in their fifth. na like play like play e dey start. in 2008, arsenal fans told me there was no way they would go 3 yrs without a title. now we are in 2011(and still no trophy). [/quote]Well, I wanted to believe that yu're smart enough to know that there are always ifs and buts in predictions, the assertion was never that manure is sure of ruin. The prediction was always classified with a 'if' predicated on how they managed the debt situation. Arsenal also would not win if we continued to sell players important players but the fact is that in the past year Arsenal has not sold important players so I know its all part of the long term plan to change things around as the financial situation concerning the stadium move lessened.
I hope yu also realise that based on what yu just posted that the fact Manure won a Carling cup last season also does not in any way insure yu against going trophyless for as long as Citeh have?

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7831403#msg7831403 date=1299082560]you are a laboratory doofus. cnn did not say it was marginal. cnn simply told you the reason the goal was chalked off. nowhere in that article did they say "it was marginally offside" after watching any replay. your lack of comprehension shines through again.[/quote]I've told you already what you can do if you still feel so strongly about the issue, you were the one who gave those links as being supportive of your view, I've only shown you all the views do not agree.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7831403#msg7831403 date=1299082560]yet more evidence your club in it's entirety is a failure. when clubs who don't have your quality can win titles, why can't you? the clubs in your category(man utd, chelsea, liverpool, spurs) have all won titles in the last six seasons. bottom clubs with no quality have won clubs in the last six seasons. why can't arsenal win it, you gibbon?[/quote]I've already told you this thread is not about trophies. I've better things to do than go toe to toe with a knucklehead who refuses to read when he has the capacity to.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7831403#msg7831403 date=1299082560]what has the debt level gotta do with your failure. if you assemble a quality squad, you will win titles. birmingham fc defeated arsenal on sunday. the cost of birmingham's team was nowhere close to arsenal and yet wenger was outclassed by alex mcleish. what has the debt level gotta do with your club's ineptitude and the failur gene in their dna?[/quote]Sunday was Birmingham's day after not winning anything since 1963, Arsenal's day will come and sooner than you think. The same Birmingham who you say outclassed Arsenal also outclassed West Ham who in turn outclassed you with yur assumed winner's dna so you aint saying much.

1025:
@dudu,
there are the exact words of chamakh. what do u have to say? it is true that your players, club and coach are silly, a shame, frustrated, angry and sad?
please say someething before i make up my mind.

So frustrated, sad and angry in your dictionary means destruction of confidence? were manure players not silly and ashamed to be beaten 4-0 by West Ham in the same competition?
Yu're sounding confused my friend yu do need to make up your mind, sorry I can't make it up for you.

Yeah, I'm a man and the head of my house and I dont need counselling when stresses and strains are caused by culture shock and changing circumstances. Why do some people never learn that you can always walk away.

1025:
@dudu,
the news is from the sun( uk sun). the man said trophies. what about trophies? if a club makes £29.2m in the previous yr and now makes £2.5million loss, who is to be blaimed? is 1025 that saw the news and brought it home or the fans that knew of it before nigeria got her independence.
each time clubs talk about trophies, arsenal talks abt profit. now that arsenal are involved in loss without trophy, what is left for them is free flow football i guess? let us be objective and call a spade a spade.
when u keep posting profits without trophies, u run the risks of loosing some of your sources of income. if u look at arsenal, their major source of income is sales of players unlike the other big teams. so what happens when nobody comes to buy from u or when everybody buys with the same rating like u. wenger is always looking at loose ends to buy cheap player and make money on them. the team has lost focus even to the extent that they do not know how to win trophies anymore. no wonder martins scored the easiest goal of his carrier vs arsenal. now that u are selling lands, who knows maybe u will start selling football boots next time?

You aren't making much sense, a lot of clubs want to buy Arsenal players (Barcelona and Munchies have both publicly made their interest in Cesc and Bendtner known) we are the ones who chose not to sell so what are you talking about?
And for your information, Arsenal is not the first club to sell land. Real Madrid sold land to offset their debt from the first Galactico project, if you don't know things, learn to read.

1025:
oga,
tell urself the truth. the confidence of the traders(arsenal) is destroyed. why not when u do not know who is leaving tomorrow? fabregas and van persie do not belong there. bendtner is on his way to tottenham and the profits will start coming in again. it does not matter how u feel abt it, the truth must be told bcs that is what am used to.

You've outed yourself already as a glory hunter whose confidence is easily destroyed and without commitment to any cause so its logical yu'll see that in others, my challenge to you remains, will you retract these statements if Arsenal end up with a profit at the end of the season?

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7830245#msg7830245 date=1299072705]you are a certified doofus! what different interpretations can one use to judge an offside position? the rules are clear and messi was onside when the ball was played to him.[/quote]Why are you sounding so retarded? some say its off, others say its not. why did CNN choose to call it marginal? I haven't heard anyone from Barcelona complaining so you can go chain yourself naked to a post in front of the FIFA office demanding for a clarification.  

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7830245#msg7830245 date=1299072705]so is this the reason your pathetic team hasn't won a dime in six seasons? arsenal has made money since moving to the emirates. they have declared mouth-watering profits since the move and yet we are here(5 years after moving to the emirates) with nothing to show for it. what is the budget of portsmouth, tottenham and birmingham who have all won titles in that period?[/quote]None of those clubs you mention compete at the top level as we do and don't have their squads stretched across as many competition as ours.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7830245#msg7830245 date=1299072705]mumbo jumbo as usual. . . .so winning trophies and buying quality players will lead to financial trouble? how did man utd manage it between 1993 and 2005? they won trophies after trophies both domestically and europe. mumuface, admit it. . . .you are a lummox. [/quote]Damn why is it so hard for a simpleton to comprehend trends and changes? was Arsenal without trophies in the period you mentioned (1993 - 2005)?
Was the debt level in the Premiership as high?

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7829808#msg7829808 date=1299069043]your english comprehension is a disgrace. . . . . that was the reason the goal was disallowed. . .it does not make it a fact. video evidence suggested messi was onside and you are telling us what we already know that the goal was disallowed cos the officials thought messi was marginally offside. messi wasn't.[/quote]Your logic bank seems permanently in the red, there are different interpretations of that same video evidence, feel free to make yours but don't come on here and imply there is any consensus that the goal was onside. Some argue for and others argue against

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7829808#msg7829808 date=1299069043]they go hand in hand, you dumbo. when you win trophies, you will make money. how did you think man utd made so much money pre-glazers. bill gates donated $2 billion to man utd football club? what a schmuk![/quote]True enough dolt, but the downside of yur bankrupt intellect is that yu fail to see that there are also costs attached to building a team, achieving victory and subsequently making money and if the two don't balance then you make losses and also get indebted if you met those initial costs through funding from creditors. Understand the term Pyrrhic victory at all?  

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7829808#msg7829808 date=1299069043]the same empire has been predicted to fall several times and yet they keep waxing strong. on top of the league. . . .4 points ahead the healthiest club in the universe(arsenal). again, the healthiest club has failed to win a single trophy in 6 years and the one crippled with debt keeps winning titles after titles. someone needs a brain doctor - what do i expect? a nuance who cannot spell "you" and "your" properly shouldn't even be in a rational discourse with me.[/quote]Well, the credit crunch didn't happen in a day if you understand anything about finances yu will know that entities get into financial trouble over time and not just on a single day. I can quite understand If you can only think in terms of the money you have in your pocket. and while yu're correcting my typos, yu could take some time to find out the difference between nuance and nuisance

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7829335#msg7829335 date=1299064555]all the clips have been removed by uefa copyright schitzo but a demented soul like you would argue against these thousands of links proving messi was onside.  http://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=messi's+disallowed+goal+at+the+emirates[/quote]A quote from one of the links on that page (from CNN) "A Messi header was disallowed [b]for a marginal offside decision [/b]and he shot into the side netting after another typical burst into the penalty area, but Arsenal were also a threat going forward in an open game." Learn to do more than scratching the surface of sensational headlines made to draw attention or summon the humility from somewhere to go back to kindergaten, you might just set a new world record while yu're at it  

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7829335#msg7829335 date=1299064555]i see. i never knew uefa now gives a special trophy for the best managed club in europe. what a simpleton. your club has not won a single trophy in 6 years and what you can beat your chest about is bah bah bah, we are well managed! where is the management in a team who cannot win a trophy to please the fans?[/quote]The title of this thread does not mention trophies but financials, have yu watched that specsavers advert recently?

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7829335#msg7829335 date=1299064555]if you are expecting the success on the pitch to clear a debt of 700 million pounds then you are as demented as a squirrel accursed with brain damage. fact remains united keep posting decent figures, winning trophies and beating "healthy clubs" like arsenal season in season out. that is fine by me. whatever happens with the finances is morgan stanley's/deloittes to worry about. as long as united win trophies, i am happy.[/quote]Obviously there are a lot of such squirrels running amok at OT cos thats what yur management keeps telling us and its only a matter of time before that stupidity influenza spreads to yu if it hasn't already.  Enjoy your fool's paradise while it lasts.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7829335#msg7829335 date=1299064555]i don't need to wait till the end of the season to know you will finish this season potless. sunday was your best chance and you fluffed it. barcelona will murder you next week. man utd is in the way in the fa cup and the league is far away from a spineless team like you.[/quote]Game on, the season aint over yet but I hope you will find the inner strength to eat your words if Arsenal do win a trophy this season, and not do your magical disappearing act and phoenix rebirth under a new handle.  

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7825627#msg7825627 date=1299012121]you are demented. every football fan knows messi scored a legit goal except a doofus like mumuface.[/quote]Your pills don expire ni? where is the clip yu wanted to post?

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7825627#msg7825627 date=1299012121]the stupidity in this argument is united had no debt before the leveraged take over. they were doing well posting huge profits before the glazers. the debt did not arise by buying expensive players or spending more than the club makes. the debt was artificial. united don't need no infrastructure upgrades. before the glazers, united are the richest club on the planet.

arsenal without the stadium debt. . . .won nothing.
arsenal with the stadium debt. . . . . .won nothing.

arsenal fans lying that their debt is the reason for the trophy drought is a myth. the club failed to win because you have mediocres in your team. how much debt are we talking about that has stopped arsenal from winning? as big as united's? hell no. we have been told this season wenger now has the resources to challenge and win titles cos arsenal posted a handsome profit last financial year. yet, they were beaten by birmingham, would be kicked out of europe next week and wenger isn't even sure he can win the league. i ask, where is the title wenger promised  last year?

barcelona is crippled with debt and they keep winning. same as madrid, man utd, etc. debt does not stop the business on the pitch so put a sock in it.[/quote]Poto poto yarns, too much story that blatantly remains blind, deaf and dumb to the real issues, the fact remains financially speaking we are in a better position than you. I don't see UEFA holding up manure as a symbol of proper financial management. Its not my business how yu came to be in debt. The fact remains yu are in debt and heavy ones too which a period of sustained success we are not likely to ever see again has done little to lessen.
When the season ends, we will discuss where we are in terms of trophies, and this thread is not about trophies. We have kept our best players and so far we've done better than last year, that is all I demanded from my team to ensure we are moving in the right direction.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7823903#msg7823903 date=1298995982]they did and they all said messi's goal was legit. i can show you a link if you press further.[/quote]Post it and I'm sure I can get the one where Hoddle conceeded it was a goal based on the rebound.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7823903#msg7823903 date=1298995982]worried? now i know why they call you mumuface!!!
how can i be worried over a club that has the highest attendance in the whole of europe? you don't have a clue. the glazers paid off 220 million pounds pik loans just last year in one big swoop. if the price is right, they are selling the club to that rich family in qatar for 1.8 billion and i should be worried? i should be more worried over a club who hasn't won a penny in the past six seasons!!!! i laugh in koscielny. [/quote]Is it today yu started having highest attendances? or was OT expanded to 70,000 capacity after 2005? yu continue to dodge the issue, yu have had prolly the most sustained successful period of your history yet emerged with massive debt and no infrastructure upgrades while at the same time Arsenal had massive infrastructure upgrades in a period in which they won nothing and have largely paid off the debt incurred for that upgrade. You can have your worries about Arsenal's competitiveness but financial worry is the least of our worries whereas its paramount in yours, good luck with that rich family to pay off your debts, we don't need one.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613256.msg7825167#msg7825167 date=1299007898]sharrap, you were one of those angola boys who hide in the bush to watch mozambique babes bathing early in the morning.[/quote]My padis dey go but I no follow dem but how yu take know? abi yu be one of those babas with bulging stomach wey dey take binoculars and zoom lens peep all the way from PG Hall? 

dayokanu:
Yelllssssss. How you take know? Abi you are the Victor-mojo the Mojo Operator

Naaaa, I dey follow fine sistas for Christ Love that time, I no get time to dey watch mojo make dem no 'unbroda' me for fellowship but we dey always see una when we dey return from night vigil.

DK, you must have been one of those guys wey dey do "No Pocketing" and "No tucking out" for Awo coffee room for midnite those days?

Kai, 3 weeks but RVP, why naa? If na Nasiru I know we could see him back next week but RVP? una wey get mat go and start praying weeks don't become months o. Chamakh has to find his mojo real quick.

kokoye:
She shouldve owned up to those mistakes though. She should have stayed - precious lives were lost.

The best thing she can do now is to return of her own will.

Atimes people do silly things at times of emotional upheaval, I wld choose to believe she is just as emotionally traumatised as well. They'll find her or she'll turn herself in, she's just complicated things for herself by running IMO. What a tragedy.

DK, oya carry your R rated videos comot for our thread, you know our thread is family friendly unlike yours where its balls display galore and shyting on football pitches.  

What has gotten into Vela in recent days? the boy is finally beginning to show some belief in his performances. Maturity? I saw him in the cameo against Stoke yesterday and he came on like he believed he could score and he did almost getting two in fact.
Whatever they did to him at WBA, he'd better bring it back when his loan ends.

There is a new Bundesliga master in town, the name is Dortmund and they munch Munchies for breakfast and still find time to floss their teeth. 

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7823447#msg7823447 date=1298991861]lair! sky did not show this game live, itv did.[/quote]And Sky don't do reviews of all action in UCL games within an hour of their ending? 

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7823447#msg7823447 date=1298991861]the same debt that has been around since 2005 which also coincided with man utd's most succesful period? you don't have a clue.[/quote]All the more reason why yu shld be worried. Arsenal built a stadium worth over 450m in the same period and have since paid down that debt to 147m without any trophies, while yur debt has been around since 2005 and you couldn't pay any substantial chunk of it despite all the football success you had. Are yu thinking at all? or is it when you have less success you intend to pay it off?

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7823118#msg7823118 date=1298987925]it's a pity a seasoned football fan like you does not offside the rule. even with the rebound and deflection, messi was still onside and his goal should have counted. anyways, i doubt it would matter next week when leo would run rings around the chumps in your defence for the second season running.[/quote]I watched this on Sky and at the end of the day even the usual Arsenal bashing guys had to agree it was the right call if the linesman had seen the rebound.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7823118#msg7823118 date=1298987925]only an unrepentant fool would compare united's finances with a lightweight like arsenal. besides, the 2.5 million loss is a half-year report. who knows the loss your trophyless club would post by september when the annual accounts are posted?[/quote]And only a stonehearted  dimwit would be blind to a debt of over 450m and year on year losses without any major investment in infrastructure despite what that same dimwit accepts is a once in a lifetime windfall of 80m from a single player transaction.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7822298#msg7822298 date=1298979526]they should have beaten you but arsenal got the rub of the green when messi's legit goal was ruled offside.[/quote]Legit goal my foot, even Barca aint complainin, the ball rebounded off Pedro before it went through to Messi and was rightly flagged.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7822298#msg7822298 date=1298979526]the difference between the 2nd and 3rd placed in terms of money is less than 1 million pounds. i don't see how that will turn arsenal's fortunes around all of a sudden.[/quote]that already accounts for over 30% of our present loss. A club that makes a turnover over 100m can afford a once in a life time loss of 2.5 million if yur debt ridden club can survive with a perpertual debt burden over 450m. and continual losses year on year.

@1025
My question to you is, will you eat your words if we end up with a profit this season?

@Switch47

No mind dem jare, I had pointed out on the Arsenal thread weeks back that profits would be lower since we didn't make any major player sales in a discussion with Debo about how much financial restrictions Arsene is competing against,  it is amazing that he has pulled a rabbit out of the hat again to still make 4m out of Eduardo's transfer and I'm sure we must have made something no matter how little from Nortdtveit's sale while we got Wellington, Miyaichi and Koscielny.
The important thing is that we kept an important player and the team has benefitted as a whole from it and I'm sure we will still more than break even at the end of the season, I hope this chap who opened it will be man enough to come and eat his words at the end of the season.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7818846#msg7818846 date=1298924883]you are dumb. this is a false dawn and if you cannot see beyond your nose then i cannot help you. a trophyless season will still be a trophyless season until you actually win something. so if you think playing in the final of a carling cup is a mark of improvement then you are deluded. arsenal got knocked out in the quarter final in europe last season, you would go out next week in the round of 16. is that an improvement? even if you finish 2nd on the league table, the only incentive is you would qualify for europe next season automatically which is also the same incentive the 3rd placed team would enjoy. [/quote]How can a dawn that hasn't even come yet be false? weren't you one of those who claimed Barcelona would beat us at the emirates? did you come back to eat your words? let Barcelona knock us out first and then run your mouth. As at the present, we are doing better than we did last season.
The 2nd and 3rd placed in the league don't actually get payed the same cos in this thread we are talking about money so that would be another improvement over last season and if we do go ahead to beat Barca we would have definitely done better than we did last season.

[quote author=*Cougar* link=topic=613752.msg7818382#msg7818382 date=1298919868]birmingham and tottenham have done better than arsenal in the past 6 seasons. stop kidding yourself you have done better at this stage than you did last year. you have won nothing yet. if barca kick arsenal out next week then the picture will become clearer to you.[/quote]When the season ends we will reevaluate, we did not reach the final of the CC last season so in that regards we have been better, last season we also ended 3rd in the league but so far are 2nd and breathing down your neck too so in that regards we have done better than last season at the same stage. If Barca knock us out, we would still have 2 competitions we are actively competing for if that is not progress compared to last year, then yu need to go back to nursery school.