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@DBR

That argument is so freaking weak it's unbelievable . . . so because it's 9ice and Rugged, analogies are banned??
So because you can't argue against my opinion, as supported by the scenarios I've listed you go into a Mel Gibson rant?? E gbagbe oro pixilated jare . . . ko jor.
9ice really benefited from being on the lead single of the biggest rap album . . . it was a big chance, and I've given you a million examples of how it works, now you can 'unpixilate and elasticize' all you want, it's not going to change the fact that being featured by a bigger artiste is a big thing for a 'widely misconceived' underdog.

DBR:
Eldee, your analogy is lame! Cole is signed to Jayz, a star is born is jay introducin his signee to d world.2 different issues entirely! JayZ d boss, cole the boy.
Yes puttin him helped d track. .but cole needed it more than jay did.

oNe

As expected irrelevant considerations . . . does it matter where the money to fund J.Cole's 2011 album is coming from when we're talking bout what he's done for him right now??
At the end of the day, his biggest PR achievement is being on the biggest rap album of 2009 after Relapse, and being probably the best performance on it . . . that's the difference between him and Bridget Kelly.

That's what Talib did for Kanye by taking him on tour with him, that's what Jay-Z did for Rihanna that's what Kanye did by putting Nikki Minaj on Monster, that's what Jay-Z did for Beyonce by giving her the hiphop audience . . . collabos are mutually beneficial, but the real gainer is seen when there is a considerable gap between both artistes.

It you being given a lead role in a big movie . . . if you make that movie a Box-Office hit, then I've helped out.
I'm really tired of this debate abeg . . .it's just long.

rapjunkie:
Its a good write up but it seems the eldorado train has run out of steam


where is the top 2 now??


4 days wait . . .its becoming like your reply to the rhymestein beef

Tbh, I'm just beefing Seun and Muki for not putting it on the front page, I dey vexdt to bahd.

Wenger has started playing with our minds again ooh.

Boss – I’ll only sign centre back, if anyone

If Arsène Wenger buys anyone in January, it will be a centre back.

Speaking at Tuesday’s press conference, the Arsenal manager ruled out buying a striker, midfielder and goalkeeper. And he will only consider acquiring a defender if Thomas Vermaelen suffers a set back in his rehabilitiation.

The Belgian has been out since late August with an Achilles injury and is due back at the end of this month. If that is delayed then Wenger may go back into the market. Otherwise, he will keep his cheque-book closed.

“In the offensive department, [a new signing] is completely excluded,” said the Frenchman. “In midfield, completely excluded. Don't forget we have a big squad with Diaby injured, Lansbury and Ramsey is coming back too. He played a full game with Nottingham Forest yesterday.

"With the goalkeepers, I stand as firm as ever.

“At the back, it just depends on Vermaelen. I am just waiting to know more about him, and then at the end of January we will have to make a decision.”

slimshay:
Eldee, Ruggedybaba is the song. Remove JayZ from the question just as I have removed RM.

Would you have listened to A Star is Born twice without that J.Cole verse??

slimshay:
Eldee forgive our interruption. Abeg get the best deal out of this. while you are at it, can they please loan us just 100m, we need to buy Messi. So we need anymore players till Wenger retires.

Just about £100 million??

slimshay:
Eldee this argument is getting old so I will just do this:

Was 9ice J.Cole an unknown as at the time he featured on RuggedybabaA Star Is Born. . . .hell no.

Did 9ice's hook J.Cole's verse help in putting Ruggedman back on top making Blueprint a sick album. . . .definitely
So the question is wat did RuggedybabaJay-Z do for 9iceJ.Cole that he himself didn't do for the SONG?
Submit your answer in your own writing ;-)

The answer is in the question.

@debosky and slimshay

You guys are disrupting the negotiation process here ooh . . . I said the only way I'll let this slide is if they agree to stop dissing Dudu and then stop Dayo from coming to our thread.

This might be our best deal since Nasri wey una wan spoil like this.

rapjunkie:
I don't care if people beef k16 or not. . . . . Life is sweeter with beef. . . in fact the more beef the better

The whole point of the NL mixtape will be to showcase NL artists ( and the nairaland music section itself) to an outside audience. The beef tracks are only relevant to Nairalanders.

do u get it now?

We're not beefing K-16, we just don't care bout him.
You know what, tell him to insult Modenine and we'll start caring, what does he look like sef??

Rapjunkie, follow me!!!

You guys act like I've got sumn to gain from Rugged being right . . . I'm not that much of a fan of either of em anymore, they're both making crappy music these days. . . maybe not Rugged sha with the good I made you rant song.

What I'm saying is, when you're not that popular . . . like 9ice was in Little money, featuring on a track of the most popular rapper back then on the biggest rap song back then and being credited as a feature is sumn that shines out on your CV, especially for singers.

Chrisette Michelle will tell you that, Brymo will tell you that, even personally I know how L will tell you that.
His track My Ex was on UK radio before now, he was just another guy, now in the UK, he's the guy that's being interviewed on BBC 1 Radio and supporting at the O₂ because he was on Wretch 32's track, forget the fact that he wrote the hook . . . it's a no-brainer.

Now did Ruggedman make 9ice?? I can't answer that, but did Ruggedman's song Ruggedybaba play a big part in 9ice's career . . . definitely.

I have my reservations against both of them, 9ice is an ingrate for saying his fans are stupid, Rugged is a fucking coward and an attention seeker for not dissing Modenine back, but the truth is still the truth.

@Nateevs

Are you by any chance related to Obolangido Odensin?? There's no way you'll be making these asnine arguments if Oponu wasn't your last name.

Rooney and Carrick were already made players, it's no secret that having just one good season in the EPL and being an English player doubles your transfer fee in England. Carrick was a key figure in Spurs, Rooney was an England starter. How daft can you be not to know that it's less of a risk than a 16 year old Chamberlain??

Hehehe . . . won tun gbe tutun de  . . .'there was nothing to suggest that Ronaldinho would make it??' So being the second best player in the World Cup winning team does not 'suggest' that he'll make it?? So you're now comparing a 17 year old Chamberlain to a Ronaldinho that ruled the World Cup and the Confederations Cup?? You're not only silly you're on a permanent high.

Ronaldo for £12mil was a risk, but then that same year they bought four youngsters how many of them can you remember??
Now let me explain it to you like this, there are rules and there are exceptions . . .

Rule is, don't risk on kids that are unproven, exception is Pato and Balotelli . . . you cannot have five exceptions in one team, and you can't survive for five years without correcting the obvious mistakes . . . now I shouldn't be lecturing you, it's more fun to laugh at you, but your ignorance is getting boring.

Well perhaps the only thing seems like focus on your part is you telling me £100m on kids is a risk. Oh News Flash again! . . . Tell me abourit. . . We've spent over £100m in the last 3 seasons on poo and dead wood. . and you are lecturing me about risk. I would prefer to have spent that £100m on potential kids and not win anything but with hope for a future than spending it on crap, winning the league once and completely capitulating.

Key Issue . . . four Lines.

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Mr LD.

Rooney was an unproven kid 18 when Fergie paid upwards of £25m for him. End of! Whether he played in the EPL or not. How can you ask me not to count that because you want to prove an empty point? I mean lawd, putting into consideration a little bit of inflation and devaluation of currency, it's just about £1m less than what Sheva moved to Chelsea for 2 years later. You dare tell me not to count that. . . Are you insane. ? Was Rooney a proven kid at 18?

Buffoon!

Why did you leave out Pato. . ? Convenience? In fact, Pato was transferred for an insane amount of money 22m Euros when he wasn't even old enough to start for Milan. You want to explain that. "Oh you can count that"

Plus Bros are you telling me Ronaldo was WPOTY at the time he went to UTD? Is your mental interpretation working in reserve? Also since when did world cup winning suddenly make one cost so much? Are you trying to tell me Dinho became successful because he won the world cup? He was like every other kid who may or may not have made it. Don't act like there was something different to him. Forking out 32m Euros for a 21 year old is "crazy" and there is nothing to suggest he will make it. . . . world cup winning or not.
Only of course if you are on my side and you are unintentionally agreeing that some kids could go for big money.

You are all over the place.

Eldee assumed he was talking about Ronaldo Moving to Madrid . . . Bleep lines . . .

I'm ashamed of you . . .

@Ibime

You self know say we go still bring this thing up another time . . . all these years of people dissing Duduspace and you think Nateevs will escape with this one??
Except if you on behalf of the Chelsea fans sign a treaty saying you'll never diss Duduspace again.
And that will only cover the '£100 million' quote . . . you'll need to keep Dayokanu off our thread to cover the part about not buying players for five seasons.

'Imagine we have these five players on the bench. We won't need to buy for at least five years.' . . . EPIC!!!

Walahi Nateevs na slowpoke . . . yo even still get mouth to talk??

Now let's try to rationalize what you're saying . . . you said 2-3 years ago you woulda bought an Hazard 20, Neymar 17, Lukaku 19, Sanchez 20  and  Chamberlain 17 for 'just £100mil' . . . Nigga is you crazy?? Unproven teenagers for £100 mil?? You should be flogged in public.
I know hindsight is a biatch but this is stupidity. . . how can someone even criticize Ancelotti after this??

And then you compare buying Chamberlain and the likes for £100mil to buying WPOTY Ronaldo and World Cup Winning Ronaldinho?? Where I come from people get flogged for less than this.

And then you bring up United  . . . Rooney and Carrick don't count UCL players were already proven players in the EPL, that doubles your price . . . Nani's spent three years to hit form, Anderson's not anywhere near form, Ronaldo was bought seven years ago . . . you're planning to gamble £100 mil on unproven teenagers and then stay for five years doing nothing . . . even if na Football Manager 2010 gan you dey crase??

And then you say you'll do that and your players won't leave . . . your youth team will cover, seriously??

Hehehe . . . and you wanna be trivial and point at typos?? You're the one that wants to spend a hundred pounds on young players . . .

If spending £100 on 20 year olds is that dumb. . . Why don't you ask Fergie

I feel like I'm arguing with a 12 year old. When did you start watching footie?? And I'm being easy on you I promise.
Oya oshi . . . I don't know why the word 's-t-u-p-i-d' is auto-corrected while 'nateevs' is allowed, afterall they both mean the same thing.

Wacky video . . . this song didn't need one.
Kanye is sick upstairs, no doubt.

@Cougar

You think I'm having a war of words . . . I'm having a laugh, watching someone post B.S like, 'we should have spent £100mil and we won't need to spend for five years'.

@nateevs

I'm not reading and digesting?? Why would I want to listen to someone that says things like . . . 'we should have spent £100 mil on 20 year olds'?? How stupid is that??
And you want me to take you serious when you say you'll depend on input from the youth team for five years?? Oshi oda, I like the way your fellow Chelsea fans acted like they didn't see it, if it were on our thread Duduspace woulda jumped in.

You are not making sense . . . no team can stay in title contention without transfers for five years, stop being a fool. Even Sir Alex' UCL winning team had to get renewals.
If this were 3-4 years ago, we'd be talking Ribery, Rossi, Benzema, Dos Santos, Tarabt, Quaresma and Guilerme . . . you see why teams don't gamble on highly rated youngsters??
The youth team you're shouting about is not half as good as ours and at most you'll get 3 first teamers from there. . . max.

And then comes the fact that players always want to leave no team can hold the same set of players for five years, except say Barca . . . especially when you're not buying.

You're either to naive or straight up daft to be talking like this, and this is me even trying to rationalize the idiocy you're displaying. . . on some, 'I know the inside matters' you know, you think this is Football Manager 2011?? Your dad must be ashamed of you, flipping waste of school fees. . .Oponu oshi.

@slimshay

How can there be a widely perceived misconception about someone's fame?? Isn't fame the one thing that's based on the 'misconception'?? If I didn't know him as a big singer he wasn't that big . . . gba be. Not because I know too much about Nigerian music, but because I know what the average Nigerian should know. . . Nutty Pin was on some songs on Music Africa, so was Basketmouth, were they big too??

Rapper in hibernation?? Ruggedman was the most featured rapper in Nigeria at the time . . . I guess we can call Jay-Z a rapper in hibernation too because his last album was in 2009.

9ice's fame increased considerably after Ruggedybaba . . . it's not sumn we should be arguing about, featuring on the hit track of the most anticipated album from the biggest rapper does a lot for your reputation.

And let me put it like this . . .with the same input, big names are more likely to make hits than your everyday guy, that's why M.I sold more with M.I 2 when Talk About It was a better album.

nateevs:
You are a goat. I tried to explain how we have spent over a £70m over the last 3 years on the wrong products. I tried to explain that if the right people had been in charge, that £70 could have been spent on the right targets. I never mentioned spending the £100m at a go. It could have been over 2 seasons. We spent it anyway. I finished by saying if we have those five players we won't need to buy for five years. Common sense tells you that since I didn't mention selling any previously players, then I meant having five new players with the old crop. Also common sense tells you that I know my team better than you, I know young players coming up that I know can take the place of older ones. And I haven't even mentioned income from player sales.


If it is possible to assemble a team with - Defence of Terry, Ivanovic, Alex, Bruma, Cole, Pat Van Aanholt; Midfield of Lampard, Essien, Mikel, Hazrd, JMcE, Matic, Kakuta, Alex Chamberlain, Alexis Sanchez, Malouda, and Attack of Drogba, Anelka, Lukaku, Neymar, Kalou and Borini, we "WILL" not need to buy for five years.


It is better for you to keep quiet and let people think you are silly than open your mouth and prove them right.

I love this feeling . . . you point out a simple thing and the person throws an essay trying to look less stupid.
Is it possible for a team to stay in a title challenge for the EPL and UCL footie and not buy players for five years??
Oponu lomo latile. . . look at him capitalizing the 'WILL' like he's actually making sense.

'I didn't mention selling any previously player' . . . yeah, players don't age. Wow I should come here more often, your idiocy is comical.
'And I haven't even mentioned income from player sales. ' - So if you're not buying, why do you need income from player sales??

This is hilarious . . . thank God for archiving.

Hindsight is a biatch . . .

Maynne . . . see what happens when your team is plating badly, you get a few unpaid managers.
Look at them planning transfers like they just stepped out of a meeting with Chelsea's board of directors . . . shioor.
Se that one with him long mouth . . . just £100mil imagine the arrant nonsense.

'We won't need to buy for at least five years.' . . .oh my Gracious Jesus . . . this is the height of idiocy.
Damn. . . can't wait for DK and Ibime to see this.

@slimshay

You don turn Bamsyle abi??
Aiite . . . if it were Do Me ft Waje, you think she won't be the MJB of Naija hiphop right now??

How many people knew 9ice before and after Little Money??

Are you seriously saying Ruggedman wasn't the biggest rapper in 9aij before he released Ruggedybaba??
Wasn't that the period when he used to diss Modenine for not being famous and not cutting across??

Come the eff on. . . the explanation is simple, if you replaced Rugged with a nobody, it won't be as big a hit, if you replaced Iceprince with K-16 on Oleku, Brymo would be nowhere now

@slimshay

That's why I've been using 'played a big part' instead of saying 'made' . . . I'm not on anyone's side, I'm disputing your Ice Prince Made Brymo comment.

And yes, it doesn't matter if you made an album for the person, Kanye made beef songs on both Nas and Jay-Z's side of the battle and was still a nobody, ghostwriters prolly made Dre's last album, Kanye wasn't the one that found the 21st Century Schizoid Man sample for Power . . . without the fame, you're just another guy on the credits.

At the end of the day, there are major steps that made you a success, being on the same track as the biggest rapper of that time is one of em.

@slimshay

Why do you think Kanye always throws shoutouts to Talib Kweli??

@Slim

It's easy, anyone that puts you on your first big track opens doors for you, so yes, Ice Prince can claim he's responsible for a big part Brymo's fame right now, he even wrote the freaking hook. . . it's simple. You don't need to sign the person, it's a well known fact.
In music, you are who you know . . . now most times, the person signs you ASAP, but other times they just give you a great co-sign and that's enough.

[quote author=tayo_ast link=topic=571628.msg7455215#msg7455215 date=1294085778]pk, if i may ask, who did who a favour on dt Ruggedy Baba track?[/quote]So J.Cole on A Star is Born was doing Jay-Z a favour just because he was better?? You guys don't understand music business.

@Slimshay
Choc City made Brymo, ask anyone.
In the industry, your talent is nothing these days, a million people are talented, the difference between a talented singer and the one that you've heard is one contact.

[quote author=tayo_ast link=topic=571628.msg7455172#msg7455172 date=1294085115]not in ds context.

He implied he did 9ice some favour by introducing him 2 d lady whom he(9ice) eventually married [/quote]Maybe not that part . . . but the part where you make someone by putting them on a track is so true.

rapjunkie:
simple question - no answer

only Nigerians answer questions with questions. . . . .

It's not only Nigerians . . . get your silly assumptions right.
The answer is in the question . . . Eva is dissing you on Twitter BTW

rapjunkie:
is school daze wack?

Is Kiss Me Through The Phone wack??

rapjunkie:
happy now? does that change the price of cocoyam in ya village?

its done. 

so 

No it doesn't but it does prove the fact that K-16 is wack . . . mathematically.

@Jesoul
Ever heard of bushmeat??

v3:

We need to review the review.

rapjunkie:
Mr ITK. . . . .same old story. . . . . . . if the thought makes u sleep better at night its all good.

eldee+moderator+sippingk16haterade+insecurerappers = Rapjunkie's Middle finger

K-16 + K-16's rod + Rapjunkie + Cowgirling = WACK!!!!!!!!!!!!