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Peacefullove:So upon all your rants, you just realized you've been deceiving yourself. Where did you read it from that God has a body? |
Peacefullove:You're deluded because Spirit Is spirit. God was described to have a eyes, hand e.t.c then should we conclude that God must have a body like ours? |
Peacefullove:So the verse that says Holy Spirit knows ALL THE THINGS of God is also lie...because I don't know how inanimate thing will know something about you. |
Peacefullove:Now it has to embrace the entire universe....hypocrite! But in the blasphemy statement, Jesus grouped Himself along with the Holy Spirit and excluded the Father... How can one blasphemy against something that's not a person? The statement didn't include the Holy Spirit which you lied Jesus did and only deluded person will conclude on where the scripture didn't conclude....it's like saying since Jesus didn't mention the father it means you can blasphemy against the Father....does it make sense? |
Peacefullove:And you didn't see that in the scripture where it was written bah? |
Peacefullove:Imagine still asking question like in 21st century.... A reasonable person can see how deluded you are |
Maximus69:Since this is the line of your argument then we can also say, since Jesus didn't include the Father in the blasphemy statement, the Father isn't a person! Olodo.... |
Peacefullove:This is the part I want....so you can continue to deceive yourself. But its a different situation here, because the persons in question actually HAVE SUCH BODY, hence this are real description not anthropomorphic.Only a person with a child brain can spew this... |
Peacefullove:But you lied that the Jesus confirmed Holy Spirit isn't a person in that verse which has nothing with Holy Spirit at all. Deluded.... |
Peacefullove:You must be a witch to have known I ran from it. Yeshua proved its not at Mathew 24:36And to see how you link Holy Spirit to this verse is one of the seventh wonders of the world. |
Peacefullove:SMH.... Have you been into the spirit to have known that it's BODILY description ![]() God was described in the Bible to have a hand, eyes e.t.c do you mean God has a body like ours to have been described that way ![]() I know you must bring your baby brain to here |
Peacefullove:And where did you see that in my post It's already a myth to you, so what change ![]() |
Maximus69:Just as you're languishing over ignorance and self deception. The truth in Jehovah's Witnesses organization is not my making, i decided to claim it as my own after seeing all the evidences with my own eyes!At least, it's JWs organization you found your truth why genuine Christians found theirs in the Bible... God promised that the corulers with Christ must be selected from ONLY the nation of Israel but the people refused to put faith in Jesus who is supposed to teach them important things about his righteous rule.If not because I pointed out your lies, will you have changed your narration? Hypocrite! God will not continue to wait forever for these faithless Jew to accept Jesus! Matthew 23:37-38Now let's see whether the passage you cited supported your narration or exposed your lies and ignorance more. 1. The kingdom of heaven was liking to a wedding... 2. The king asked His servants to call those who were bidden for the wedding...BUT they would not come! 3. After The king sent another servants but the REMNANT maltreated and even killed the servants 4. On hearing this, The king's judgement was upon them by sent forth His armies to destroy and even burn their city. 5. Then in v9 the king instructed His servants they go to the Highways (Plural) to look for "AS MANY AS YE SHALL FIND...," from here it's evident that the number can't be quantifiable....but out of your delusions and evil mind you have to assume that it must be to complete the 144,000. 6. V10 says "those servants went out into the highways (plural) and gathered together ALL as MANY AS THEY FOUND" the most astonished part is that the people gathered are "BOTH BAD and GOOD"....are you saying among the 144,000 there are still bad people among them? I know you can't answer yes! because somewhere else, you already claimed they were all FAITHFUL SERVANTS. You can see how the said organisation you found truth is destroying your salvation with false doctrine. You can read the whole illustration of the wedding feast @Matthew 22 from verse 1-14, because i know Pastors used to tell you that Jehovah's Witnesses only select verses!From the illustration of the wedding, we read that the King destroyed the murderers and even burn down their city (this can be described as Armageddon). Also, we read that the king commanded his servants to bind a man who was without wedding garment to be thrown out into outer darkness, there shall be "WEEPING and GNASHING OF TEETH" But your demonic organization says no eternal punishment for any bad person...nor people are conscious after death. How come the person will be weeping and gnashing of teeth? because this punishment was totally different from the one describes as Armageddon. As you can see, the destruction of both the murderer and their city have occurred. (Funny thing is, you may come with excuses of figurative). If you're truly after the Salvation of your soul, I'll advice you to spend a whole lot of time with your Bible than watchtower. |
Maximus69:See how this thread is exposing your hypocrisy the more.... Just because you're discussing with a Muslim, you are suddenly dishing out lies forgotten that the line you use to defend your organization with a Christian supposed to be maintained throughout irrespective of whoever you're dealing with. You claimed the "God has promised that these corulers must be selected from only the children of Abraham (Jews)", yet your fraudulent organization said the 144,000 who will rule with Jesus in heaven were chosen till 19th century. Or you want to claim the 144,000 aren't part of corulers.... I know you'll find a way to cover your lie again by dishing out gibberish and disconnected post from the main point. |
Maximus69:But you are the very person who is crying now.... Hypocrite! You haven't answer my question, is governing body not a title? You know their face because you're too brainwashed to believe so. Their faces full Google! |
Maximus69:Brainwashed person...always write gebbrish! Is Governing Body not a title? That's the question... You quoted Matt 23:8 which also speaks against the title "Governing Body" Aren't Pastors being used by God? Here you're so keen to defend it but can open your rotten mouth to condemn others for what you are guilty of. Hypocrite! |
Maximus69:But you are so proud to call some group of men "Governing Body" or this group of men are so proud for their followers to be calling them "Governing Body", isn't that one a title Hypocrite! |
Peacefullove:Nothing weh Musa no go see for gate, so insecure.... Have you forgotten the below ?Now look at the @colored part and see where your problem lies, you assume something then conclude within you on my behalf. Note what OXFORD dictionary said when defining beingI have shown you your problem. Then explain the belowTell us the VERY BEING/NATURE the humans will have? Are they going to become a Creator? Are they going to be an eternal being? Are they going to be Alpha and Omega? because you disconnected this part from my post and just cherry pick that you want. ° I recall correctly that Jesus have TWO natures, while the Father have only one , How then can someone say they are equal in nature ?Olodo... If you can ask this question then you don't worth discuss with because it shows you lack knowledge in the subject matter. |
Peacefullove:Where did I say being and nature mean the same thing ![]() Besides, my post is very detailed, point any part you couldn't comprehend, I will explain instead of asking unnecessary question. |
Maximus69:That's why you'll continue to be Olodo....and act like a robot! No one has ever discussed with you on this forum and hasn't noticed your drain brain method of replying. Is Holy Spirit a person? I made it clear that one of the reasons your organization denied the PERSONHOOD of the Holy Spirit is that, they claimed since Holy Spirit said to be SPEAKING THROUGH another person then He can't be a personal. One PERSON can't speak through another Person. See how you're just disgracing yourself on a very simple plain statement. So now that you said Devil (a person) spoke through Peter, isn't it evident that Holy Spirit is also a person speaking through people from ages? Or you can retract your stand about Devil speaking through someone? |
Maximus69:Your organization has spoken then isn't it evident that you and your organization are liars? Your organization claimed a person can't speak through another person but you say yes a person can... Isn't this benefit you're showing the whole world? The person who spends his whole life on NL not even on another section but Religion section arguing virtually on every thread is accusing someone of arguing arguing....hypocrite! |
Peacefullove:You can't even contribute a single word to the post only to ask nonsensical question.... Go ahead and tell us the difference between being and nature |
I quoted this part just to show you the reason I usually say JWs are very hypocrite in nature and as a reference! Maximus69:Nothing spoke through Peter when Jesus asked that question instead it was REVEALED to him Jesus said "It was Father who REVEALED it..." Even the guy has to educate you about 1Peter you wrongly alluded to...SMH From your statement it's evident that Holy Spirit is God since you can agree that it was Holy Spirit who spoke when Jesus talked about the Father... The evidence from the scripture atimes The Father Himself will speak without Holy Spirit in action...which shows that the two are separate. The last part also shows how dubious you people can be just to defend your demonic doctrines. You said, Holy Spirit that is an active force spoke through Peter as well as SATAN who is a PERSON also spoke through Peter. Whereas, one of the reasons your organization rejected the personhood of the Holy Spirit is the claim that a person can't speak through another person. But here out of curiosity to continue to defend lies, you agree that a person (Satan) can actually speak through another person. Just see how Satan is using your salvation to play ludo... |
BIBLESPEAKS:There's a single interpretation of Trinity, it's people like you who always give it different interpretations to fight against it due to lack of knowledge. I don't still understand why the Bible will imply 2 beings when talking about the father and son by saying: "He (son) is the exact representation of his (father) very being."Only if you can understand it through the lens of "human being" you're using as reference here. Your Dad is a person and You are a person too, then can we say you're a exact representation of your Dad very being? Mind you, "Being" here refers to common word as "human being" In fact, this is one of the verse that supported the deity of Jesus. God's "being" is different from Angel's "being" from human "being" likewise Angel's "being" if different from human "being" from Animal "being" So the test proves that The Word who was revealed to us as Son existed in the very "Being" of the Father. This was also reemphasise by Apostle Paul in Phil 2:6 "who though he existed in the form of God..." Which God was it referring to here, the Father or who? according to modern dictionaries every human creature is a human being because he exists. Every person is a being because he exists. The word "being" simply means "to be in existence." Based on this I cannot see how the son and the father can be 2 persons but one being.You didn't get it, the word "HUMAN" is what distinguished our being from other "beings" You are a being, your Dad also is a being but two of you are HUMAN yet different persons. "Being" is the form in which person exists. This is my major objection to Trinitarianism. It depends on a distinction between “person” and “being” that is not articulated in Scripture.It's well articulated in the scripture just that you couldn't pay attention to grab it. The Father is a person, the form/Nature the Father exists is called GOD. In man terminology there are different beings in the universe: God....Being Angel...Being Human...Being Animal....Being So the Word was the exact representation of the Father Being... Also i believe that one of the biggest problems with the orthodox doctrine of Christ is that it is unintelligible and results in a person who is both A and non-A at the same time.Your failure to understand that spirit being are different from human being and that spirit can dwell in the human flesh is what result to this poor reasoning. The example you gave was about TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH PHYSICAL FLESH...Whereas, the incarnation simply means the Divine person(who is a spirit) DWELLS in the Physical body born by Mary. You have a physical body You also have a spirit Non-Trinitarians such as myself and others don’t necessarily reject the idea of believing in something that one might call “mysterious” but we have a problem believing in that which is logically impossible. Well, reason is part of the image of God that he stamped upon us to enable us to determine what is true and what is not true,Trinity is to solve the complexity of the question you asked below which I'll explain. and I can’t imagine why we’d discard that attribute when asking the most important question of all: Who/what is God?If not for Trinity doctrine the New Testament writers would have greatly projected a polytheistic view of God for Christianity which is really contradictory to the concept of God revealed in the Old Testament. How? According to the question you asked: "Who/what is God?" In man's understand and concept of God. God is a self existence person, very powerful, the CREATOR of ALL THINGS. Now having know these attributes solely belong to entity/being called God...it will be contradictory to find this same attributes being applied to anotherbeing/person. Reading through the scripture you'll see these attributes being applied for both the Holy Spirit and The Word of God which we know as Jesus Christ. So that's why the concept of Trinity was brought up to solve this. Unless you want to deny that in the Bible you carry: >Holy Spirit was not described as self existence person (even people like JWs know this that's why they can only deny the PERSON of the Holy Spirit... >Holy Spirit was not part of the creation process... Likewise The Word of God (Jesus Christ)! |
Maximus69:Who asked you, mr hypocrite ![]() Before you know it now, you'll begin to jump from frying pan to frying pan, dishing gebbrish. |
You just want to debate by fire by force ![]() Abdulgaffar22: |
Abdulgaffar22:Other verses dispute indeed.... ![]() Assist by quoting a referenceYou can do that yourself... |
Abdulgaffar22:Were you not the same person who quoted John 1:1,14 to prove A=B, B=C then C=A? Which school of thought you've taken me through in the past ?Only if you can go through your previous posts If you are very sure of your self, take your time to nullify all those evidenceIt has been done many times here, yet you keep repeating it...what should that be called? |
The same confused post all the times despite different school of thought you've been taken through in the past. Anyway, It's evident that your second post is to expose the lies of JWs that claimed that Jesus isn't God. |
Nnukwueze:Did you read the OP at all? |
Since the arrest of the co-runner of the #revolutionnow and the demonstrators on Monday, mix reactions have sprung up, while some give the reason of not in support, some has given the reason they threw in their support. This article is to highlight some misconceptions and why you need to throw away tribalism, ethnic bigotry and religion to save this country from the impending doom that's coming. Firstly, I'm not a fan of Politic, so I don't vote not to talk of affiliation with any political party and this will be my first topic on Politic Section since I join Nairaland. Secondly, I've noticed how the political elites who are kin on holding this country to ransom are using some youths to fight this #RevolutionNow by simply cringe to a statement like "Sowore wouldn't have use the word REVOLUTION" What if I tell you that, the word "REVOLUTION" is the perfect word for this struggle? A quick search on the word REVOLUTION can help! because of space I'll use this since they use it as their support. 1. a forcible overthrow of a government or social order, in favour of a new system. "the country has had a socialist revolution" synonyms: rebellion, revolt, insurrection, mutiny, uprising, riot, rioting, rising, insurgence, insurgency, coup, overthrow, seizure of power, regime change; More: subversion, sedition, anarchy, disorder, protest, strike, act of resistance, act of defiance; coup d'état; putsch; (Oxford Dictionary) NOTICE: The people behind this statement craftily holding on to @underlined only whereas the other parts which solely addressed the intent of the organizer were left out. We can even see that "PROTEST and STRIKE" are also synonymous with REVOLUTION. Why should you be concerned about this? It's evident that irrespective of our diversity in this country be it Tribal, ethics, religion e.t.c and which side we choose to stand, the storm that besieged us didn't use to come with Tribalism or religion differences. In fact, the economy downturn in the country right now knows no tribe or religion. This leads me to my next question! Do you think this economy downturn has ended? To be honest, our politicians still make it look as if it is but in reality it's not as a matter of fact, we haven't started. You may then ask, How? I'll tell you. A new Technology will be rolled out next year 2020 (I won't mention the name), let's hear what experts say about it. Forbes calls this technology, “The next frontier and it will open up a completely different world”... And that it will “create an entirely new class of devices and services that will change our lives forever.” CNBC had this to say about it, “The tech economy depends on it, without it the technology revolution stops.” Another source says "In short, THIS is the technology that we’ve been waiting for... the one at the center of the next generation of mind-blowing advances... And I’m not the only one saying this..." The Hill calls it the “key to unlocking the digital future.” One industry publication said, “this technology is set to take the world by storm.” And Tech Radar says, “this technology will be far more life-changing than you think.” One thing is certain, if this tech going to take the world by storm, do you think Nigeria for instance will float or sink with it? You see people who already know the impending doom that's coming will see #RevolutionNow as the right course to challenge the old tradition of Nigeria system to usher in a complete new system that can make us as a nation afloat with the storm. >You may think because you associate yourself with every government in power, you're safe! >You may think because you're a business expert, you'll scale through! >You may think because your people are wealthy, your side is covered! >This storm isn't going to tell you it only knows Igbo or Yoruba or Fulani. One thing I've known about storm is that, it didn't discriminate and doesn't have a path, and no one can tell its gravity of its devastating. Asking National Assembly to pass a bill that will make all politicians and public office holders not to travel outside for medical treatment and sending their children to study abroad, for our decayed health sectors and schools to be revamped....needs revolution! Asking for a system that will put this nation on a right track within few years...needs revolution! If you have seen through your instinct and foresight the unavoidable storm that's coming and this nation will not escape and you haven't seen the reason to join your voice with other before it's too late. You can do that now. Remember, there is a time of grace for everything who knows this is the only grace time we have as a nation to make it right. 2023 maybe too late for that! A concerned Nigerian! |
TruthinAction:The person you and him have been laughing with each other and looks like you're on the same page, it's now you'll know that two of you aren't the same and most of what he's saying is away to bring his own doctrines of confusion to buttress his point. So none of those questions you asked ever fall within his own belief. |
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