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Janosky:
If Jehovah sends one of his angels to read and explain Deu10:17, Psalms 82:1,6 & Isaiah 9:6 to you, you would continue to argue with Jehovah's messenger.

Show me where man and angels were called MIGHTY GOD in the scripture that's what I asked you.

You always lie ,argue blindly and you will never admit the truth even if na Angel show am to you.
Lying Pharisee dey form Christian.

Mr saint and angel, all I asked for is to...

Show me where man and angels were called MIGHTY GOD in the scripture that's what I asked you.

CANTICLES:
You lie too much

Ignorance will not kill you one day, I pray!

We read: “Jehovah raised a savior up for the sons of Israel that he might save them, Othniel the son of Kenaz, the younger brother of Caleb.” (Judg. 3:9)


Othniel was called a SAVIOUR . stop telling lies, it won't help you.

This is my statement: Jesus Christ was called saviour because HE SAVED MANKIND from their sin...

Saviour is to save...so both Christ and Othniel were called SAVIOUR because they simply performed the act of saving...

So how many Saviours does Isreal have?

Is Othniel still Israel saviour today?

One gave the other that title , shouldn't that tell you who is superior?

Olodo...who is talking about superiority

For Jehovah and othniel to be called saviour means they are equal , Shebi ? so pathetic

You lack comprehension...
Jehovah and Othniel were called saviour because they both saved...what they saved from might be different...

Who says this ?

That's why I'll keep saying you lack comprehension...

They both performed the role of apostleship...which means to SEND....

Do you agree othniel and Jehovah are SAVIOURS, how many Saviour does isreal have?

Othniel is a saviour to those he saved
Jehovah is a saviour of the world
Today people still use the word saviour for those who rescued someone from danger...

The critical point here is the meaning of SAVIOUR which is to SAVE

The funny part of it is that, you didn't even consider the tone of the writer.

Until u learn what it means when one gave a title to another to carry out his own purpose, you will continue to get confused

So you agree that Jehovah gave Jesus the title MIGHTY God which is strictly for Jehovah Alone?

In essence, Jesus is a Mighty God just as Jehovah is a Mighty God, right?

Maximus69:
NO Sir,Jesus is the Lord over his own followers just as David and others were also Lords over their own servants[2Samuel 19:27] he had 12 Apostles and Numerous disciples.
So Jehovah is the ALMIGHTY God[Exodus 6:2,3] he has so many angels whose positions are higher than others [1Corinthians 8:5]they are mighty gods under the Almighty, Jesus happens to be one of those mighty spirits [angels or gods]! Psalm 82:1
After God created Jesus, he[Jesus] was given the assignment as in privilege to create all other things[Colossians 1:15,16 compared to Proverbs 8:22-31] but that never gave him the sole right to destroy any of it unless his father gives the order! Psalms 110:1 compared to Matthew 8:22

Confuse person....
The other time you said, Jesus WAS a God meaning Past tense
Again, Jesus serve as God in the past just as Moses...and both are no more God today

Do you agree with your brother who says Angels are MIGHTY GOD? since to you Jesus is an Angel

CANTICLES:
Pathetic, so pathetic ... Apostle means " one who is SENT. "

Jesus was sent in what context ? ( God SEND his son ( 1John 4:14) .. Same with Peter ?

Just see the way you're exposing your ignorance the more.

"Apostle mean one who is sent..." can't you see that because the person was SENT that's what makes him/her apostle?

*Jesus was a prophet because He prophesied...
*Jesus is the saviour because He saved man from sin that's why no one was called a saviour in the scripture...
*Jesus was a teacher because He teaches...not because He died for mankind.
*Jesus was an apostle because He was sent...

Is Jesus the only prophet in the world? No!
Is Jesus the only Apostle in the world? No!
Is Jesus the only teacher in the world? No!

What's is my point?
Simple, if one thing bridges two people together you look at the nature of connectivity not how they perform it differently.

You can't be called a teacher if you don't teach.

So for Jesus and Jehovah to be called Mighty God...means something!

When you answer if Jesus and Peter were SENT with the same role as you Earlier lied . this one will be clear .

When did I say they were sent with the same role?

My question still remains, you agree that Jesus and Jehovah are mighty God, how many God do you have?

Janosky:
"God stands in the congregation of the mighty ;he judges among the gods"
"I have said ,'you are gods'; you are all sons of the Most High"
Psalms 82:1,6.

Deu10:17.Jehovah is a mighty God
Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is a mighty God.
Psalms 82:1,6. man is a mighty God and angels are mighty Gods.
Mighty God is a title for JEHOVAH ,.,title for Jesus and a title for man/angels.

** How many Gods do you have?
Oya respond !
If anybody deserved "olodo" title , it is you Emusan because out of the abundance of your ignorance and unbelief ,your post speaks.

SMH...see concorted lies

Before it was, Jehovah is Almighty God and Jesus is a mighty God.

But now both Jehovah and Jesus are mighty God not only that, man and Angels are now also mighty God!

This can only be found in JWs logic....

I wonder if man and angels are already A MIGHTY GOD, while then Jesus will be called same thing

Anyway, there is ONLY ONE God who is Mighty...

Now, show us where in the Bible where Man and Angels are called MIGHTY God

CANTICLES:
U are a dubious fellow, are you seeing what trinity is doing to your reasoning ?

Jesus was Sent to die for mankind sins [John 3:16 ] , Peter wasn't sent for such role , [b] the word apostle is applied to them in a different context [b]

Same applies to Jesus and His Father. To Jesus its applied as a title as a Mighty one , But to Jehovah its applied as the supreme being over ALL

When I said you're a confirm Olodo...y
some people won't believe but just look at your delusion...

So to be an Apostle now mean to die...

Jesus is a mighty God and Jehovah is a mighty God, how many God do you have? That's the question!

stephleena:
Lol..it's very very possible

Not just very very possible but that's the actual plan...no single crude oil in the north.

Their plan is to create large oil reservoir and pump oil from South to it then later claim, oil has been found in the north.

From a reliable source....

Hmmmm

CANTICLES:
Check the meaning of God too , it can mean someone with authority or who influences others . So it doesn't alway mean the supreme being

Context of supreme being, One God , Jehovah

I can see you misunderstood what I meant there....

I didn't talk about one word with a different meaning but FOCUS on the word APOSTLE...

If Jesus and Peter are both apostles, it means the word apostle applied to them and with the same role...that makes them to be both apostles

Now both Jesus and Jehovah are mighty God, then how many God do you have?

CANTICLES:
Wonderful counselor etc,those are all titles.

Has nothing to do with equality with Jehovah .

Jesus is called an apostle just as Peter, does that make them equal ?

Father and Son ... The Gap will forever be there

Diverting from the main point....

Jesus is a mighty God, how many God do you have? Answer that first...

The main focus is the meaning of Apostle if Jesus and Peter were both called an Apostle, are they not in essence APOSTLE?

Now, if both Jesus and Jehovah are mighty God, are they both not God? Then how many God do you have

CANTICLES:
Thank God it says " mighty God " not ALMIGHTY .

As for the bold, if God was in flesh, Mary gave birth to God ? Humans kill God ?

Since you agree that Jesus is a mighty God, then how many God do you have? Also, isn't Jehovah a mighty God?

The verse says MANIFESTED IN THE FLESH not WAS IN THE FLESH

Maximus69:
There is no dispute about that, if you can defend the Catholic Church with all their idols please go ahead and make your defense. JWs print magazines to show the world where and how the Catholics have erred!

So are you saying no Catholic defending his/her faith?

Now you conclude Catholic to be an idol worshipper and erred but do you also agree that JWs made mistakes and erred?

BHigher:
You are such a big fool for posting this BS!

You lack home training...

I was on my way from Kano to Abuja yesterday when the incident happened, I saw the Governor's convoy.

I even took some pictures of the on going road construction from Kano to Abuja as an engineer because of the quality standard of the road

kingemzy5:
Story story...... That's the only good thing he has done in his lifetime...

To you it's a story but to us who ply the road...it's a good time

Hofbrauhaus:
Ribbish..nonsense news that means nothing to anybody. Who knows if he is not part of the kidnappers?

Murderous little urchin.

I'm just shaking my head for you people down the south who don't know what we in the north go through about insecurities.

Thank God for using the Kaduna governor, we for ran into the midst of those useless bastard.

How I wish the governor can be plying the road everyday like today...

Now you've left the main issue and start to derail the thread...

Maximus69:
You need to know how Judaism started before talking about whether they were led by God's spirit or not!
The Temple was rebuilt by Jewish returnees from Babylon so God's holy spirit supported the arrangement and dwelt in the temple's most holy until the messiah was rejected and executed.

So during the time the Holy Spirit was in the temple before Christ was rejected, who is interpreting their SACRED BOOK

But the religious setting of the Pharisees and Sadducees was hypocritical, therefore God sent John the baptist ahead of Jesus TO ALERT THE PEOPLE THAT THE MESSIAH IS HERE AND TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THOSE RELIGIOUS LEADER HAVE MISLED THEM, John called them brood of vipers[children of the serpent* Satan]! Matthew 3:7
So how do you think such a devilish group could get the support of God"s holy spirit to INTERPRET what God has promised that ONLY those empowered by the spirit could interpret? Daniel 12:8-10

If "God has promised that ONLY those empowered by the spirit could interpret? Daniel 12:8-10" Does it mean no body was with Holy Spirit or righteous during that time when "God's holy spirit supported the arrangement and dwelt in the temple's most holy until the messiah was rejected and executed"

For your information what those Pharisees taught the people is what they are still holding on till today,that is why the Jews have rejected Jesus as the Messiah till now!

This does not address my point...

Was there an interpretation of their SACRED BOOK at certain period with the help of Holy Spirit?

If yes! Then was the interpretation going to change since Holy Spirit wasn't with them?

If no! proof it!

Maximus69:
Hmmm the TRUTH could be soooo bitter,but let's consider some points on the issue.

Ok

First of all if his cousin is a Christian, of what denomination is he? You mentioned Jehovah's Witnesses, definitely you're opposed to some religious groups claiming Christians and that's a sign that you don't accept them as Christians!

Christian is follower of Jesus Christ...

Rather it's JWs that believe they're the only Christian on earth today...

Have you now agreed that all denominations belongs to Christ or just anyone that is PERFORMING miracles?

Who ever is named with the name of Christ should depart from iniquity...who am I to say a body that claimed the name of Christ doesn't belong to Christ?

Paul's case was sighted. cited. Yes! he is a Jew,he knew all what is in the scriptures from Genesis to Malachi, he is an ardent student of the law,he was zealous for God's law and he is killing those whom he believed should be killed ACCORDING TO THE LAW! Deuteronomy 13:6-18

Was it only Saul who knows all this?

So why did Jesus call him? Well Paul himself did not leave us in darkness! Galatians 1:13,14
He wasn't sent to the Jews but other nations. Why?
Because Jesus already had his Apostles and many other disciples in Jerusalem, thus Paul's endeavour to persuade the Jews failed! Act 13:46
Of course Jesus did not intend Paul witnessing to Jews amongst whom Jesus himself performed many signs and they did not believe him, it makes no sense sending Paul to go and face the same people telling them how he met Jesus so Jesus sent him to the Gentiles! Romans 11:13

So who are the Apostles that was in the nation the Jihadist is living...

Muslims also claimed to have received several revelations in recent times about how Allah is giving signs that Islam is the way to heaven,so of what REAL significance is the former jihadist's case?

So is Allah and the person that reveal Himself to the Jidadist the same?

After the death of Jesus,Christianity was establish and God gave a sign to show that he has nothing to do with Judaists again! Matthew 27:51
Whoever still practices Judaism can never have any spiritual backing from the true God again unless such a person abandon Judaism for Christ.

So what happened when God was still with them?

That is why TRUE Christians shouldn't turn to Judaists for the interpretation of God's word again,

Wasn't their interpretation before Christ backing by God and true?

Was the interpretation going to change simply because Christ has now come?

since God's holy spirit has left them! So your take on the meaning of 'sons of God' can't be taken as you're insinuating that Judaists could get better understanding of what is sacred.

So can you give us the interpretation of their sons of God when Holy Spirit was still with them?

Or the interpretation Holy Spirit gave them will now different from what we have now simply because Holy Spirit wasn't with them?

We can only turn to Jews for facts of events that happened on their soil but when it comes to the INTERPRETATIONS of the sacred book, we shouldn't forget that God's holy spirit has left Judaism since Jesus' last breath as a human!

Was there no interpretation of the sacred book by them when the Holy Spirit was still with them?

Will the interpretation change simply because Holy Spirit isn't with them anymore??

God bless you Sir!

Amen, and you too...

TATIME:
He must have seen a spirit for sure,but did he truly saw Jesus? Well a thorough reading,studying and meditation on what the scripture says will answer that!
The last time Jesus called a none believer was during Paul's case,he knew the scriptures very well,he was a lawyer and defender of God's law,he was acting according to the law,he was zealous for the word of God. But what he knew has been indoctrinated by the Pharisees[the religious leaders in Judaism]
So Jesus called Paul DIRECTLY to divert his Love and zeal for the TRUTH,but first he must learn from the Christians what to do. The jihadist in question has conscience but we need not misconstrued that with FAITH because Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for,the evident demonstration of realities not seen! Hebrew 11:1
Will Jesus go contrary to His own words by REVEALING Himself after the last REVELATION?
What is the purpose of appearing to the jihadist whose people knew nothing about Christ?
Is he expected to convince those radicals with the testimony of such encounter?
Paul was sent to the nations,NOT Israelites. So what is this jihadist doing in the midst of those who knew nothing about the scriptures?
Muslims also claims to have received so many revelations from Allah telling them Islam is the way. So is Jesus doing this to challenge Allah?
Well, true believers will ask lots of questions based on what the knew before because they don't want to be easily carried away by a touching story that could have been fabricated by the devil.
Good morning!

Oma seee oooo all this just because it's not a Jehovah witness that got him converted but had it been it was Jws it would've been true to you...

Did you read this part from the story?

"When his wife Rashid became seriously ill, Bashir did the unthinkable and allowed a Christian cousin living in Canada to have his prayer group pray for her over the phone.

In a few days, his wife recovered and Bashir asked his cousin to introduce him to someone who could tell him more about Christ.

After several conversations with a missionary Bashir was close to renouncing Islam to follow Jesus.
Bashir says the welcoming attitude of churches and the generous prayers of Christianity drew him to the faith. And, he says, reading the Bible brings him more peace than the Koran."

Lol...the last time Jesus called unbeliever was during Saul case!

Now you agreed a Judaism person an enemy of Christian Saul KNEW SCRIPTURES VERY WELL AND A LOVER OF GOD...

TATIME:
Emusan has no shame nah,so you don't know! He is ready to pally with anybody just to say NO to JWs! And by the end of the day he will say JWs don't know anything.
Now see him quoting the book of Judiast just to criticize JWs. If not because you have been studying with JWs and a so called pastor starts quoting books other than the Bible,what will you say about such a pastor? But not only that o,He is proudly quoting from those who hate Jesus with passion and ever ready to debunk everything about Jesus!
Well that's the evidence of holy ghost in the life and ministry of his holiness Pastor Emusan!

Maximus69:
Hmmm so let's accept the explanation or interpretation of Judaists whose ancestors killed Jesus and are still claiming that he is just an impostor!
The Jehovah's Witnesses have concentrated on ONLY the Bible to interpret what is in the Bible but Pastor Emusan suggested we should accept the interpretation of Judaists who won't have anything to do with the Christian Greek Scriptures[New Testament]. Judaism only accepted Genesis to Malachi! Pastor Emusan prefer their interpretation because they claimed that the sons of Seth[sinful human] are better called sons of God than angels who are spirits in the real likeness of God! John 4:24
You're blessed Pastor Emusan,more grease to your elbow Oluwa a so agbara dotun Sir!

I wanted to ignore you people at first but I realized sometimes you don't need to ignore fool so that he won't think he's wise.

You people neglected the main point I raised but started attacking strawman...well I'm ready for you.

Now that you accuse me of quoting Judaism that doesn't believe in Jesus nor Greek book.

What will you people say about your organization that not only misquoting an authors but went ahead to quote Atheists or Bible mockers/trashers?

In a book published by watchtower titled Should you believe in Trinity?

*More than four authors were cited that are Bible trashers or mockers

These are their names:
1. Bulletin of The John Rylands Library...The author is a Bible trasher who rejected The Messianic of Jesus Christ.

2. E. Washburn Hopkins: Origin and Evolution of Religion....Hopkins is a Christianity trasher who believes that the life, temptation, miracles, parables of Jesus Christ were derived from Buddhism

3. Siegfried Morenz: Egyptian Religion...Morenz claimed that some terms in the Bible like crown of life, crown of righteousness even second death in revelation were of pagan origin.

4. Will Durant: The Story of Civilization.... Durant is a Bible trasher too who accused The apostles of borrowing their doctrines from paganism.

If you want more I can go on...

But will this move you about your organization? No! But me quoting from Judaism which your organization also making reference to is making you sleepless.

Besides, from the article I quoted from wasn't fully about Judaism but the summary part of it.

Before you people forgot, my question still remains

How can a rebellious angels still be called sons of God?

Maximus69:
OK let's agree that you're not arguing, so tell us who are those 'sons of God' if not rebellious angels?

So you agreed that the sons of God are actually REBELLIOUS ANGELS.

Then why did you say human can't be called sons of God because of Adam's sin?

When we're talking about double standard...it's in all JWs!

But before you shamelessly and arrogantly spew nonsense here, remember the story of Job oooo.
These same SONS OF GOD presented themselves before God and SATAN entered right in there midst, if the sons of God aren't angels, what was Satan[a fallen angel] doing in their midst? Job 1:6

You lack wisdom, knowledge and understanding.

He was called and single out as SATAN not ONE OF THE SONS OF GOD simply because he had rebelled against God.

And before you say anything stupid consider Revelation that says after these demons were driven out from heaven THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR THEM ANYMORE IN HEAVEN! Revelations 12:8-10

SMH for you, go and ask your organization to ask when this event happened.
This event has been placed after the ascension of Jesus as a reigning king in heaven...

So how come, this demon in heaven are still addressed as sons of God is one of the 7 wonders of JWs abracadabra.

So you can now give your own interpretation of the whole thing, who are the sons of God mentioned @ Genesis 6:1 & Job 1:6?
Jehovah's Witnesses have given their own interpretation,they say those angels are wicked for abandoning their God's given assignment[2Peter 2:4,5] just to come and have sex with female humans in Noah's days and you're saying it's not so!

The interpretation is simple, in Judaism two interpretation are given!

1. Offspring of Seth
2. Angels

Rabbinic Judaism traditionally adheres to the first interpretation, with some exceptions, and modern Jewish translations may translate bnei elohim as "sons of rulers" rather than "sons of God". Regardless, the second interpretation (sons of angels or other divine beings) is nonexistent in modern Judaism. This is reflected by the rejection of Enoch and other Apocrypha supporting the second interpretation from the Hebrew Bible Canon.

Janosky:
Na JW put "son of God " for Genesis 6:2?
I command you to receive sense oh lying Pharisees.

Not JWs that put it there but JWs misinterpreted that verse...that's why you couldn't answer my question.

so the question still remains, can a REBELLIOUS ANGELS be called sons of God?

A demon possessed is commanding sense...in whose authority are you doing that

" Gen6:2 says "sons of God" saw that the daughters of men were beautiful and they married any of them they chose"

In Hebrew language the term "sons of God" is another word for angels.
Compare Job 1:6. 38:7 "sons of God" referred to angels.

Lie...provide the evidence that in Hebrew the term sons of God is another word for Angels!

So that makes Adam an angel since he was called son of God...

In Hebrew language, the expression "sons of God" is not about piety or morals.
"Can a mortal be more righteous than God?...if God places no trust in his servants, if he charges his angels with error, how much those who live in houses of clay?"
Job4:17,18

But the chosen nation of Israel are sons of God...how come?

** Angels can misbehave ,U dey see am?

Then who says they can't misbehave
The point is if they misbehave, can they still be classified as sons of God

It's already established by your own organization that those angels are WICKED ones...

If your copy of the Bible has a Concordance ,References or Margin Notes,& U stop feeding on spiritual junk from your pastorpreneurs,
U no go come here dey show case your stupidity.
Grow up,man.

So is my Bible that also put WICKED angels on your organization website, right? Continue....stupidity is in you, like peak milk...

The funny thing is that, you claim no human can be called son of God after Adam's rebellion against God but believing rebellion angels has right to still be called sons of God....very pathetic!

Maximus69:
If JWs said those 'sons of God' are angels and you object to that.

Not what JWs says but what the scripture says...

And you're not stylishly trying to gain knowledge from Jehovah's Witnesses,

Gain knowledge from people who lack knowledge, that's ridiculous...

why not present your own findings instead of arguing without finding any solution to the riddle!

Showing you what your own organization says as against the lies you're spewing now means I'm arguing...

Before you divert our attention, the question still remains, can REBELLIOUS Angels still be called sons of God?

Abegi you no sabi am, say the truth and put Satan to shame, nobody dey see your face for here so why are you this heady upon nothing?

So you haven't seen the truth I'm presenting here that the Angels are already rebelled against God before they came to earth and chose the daughters of men for wives for themselves?

Are they still sons of God after their rebellion?

bloodofthelamb:
I never believe that those sons of God were angels. The Jesus said we will be like angels at ressurection because they don't marry.

Secondly, for an angel to materialise in flesh without God's permission means he has the power to create.

We know that demons can't create for themselves bodies, they only possess the human body created by God.

That's JWs for you they have A1 in twistology...

Maximus69:
You want to argue NOT learn. I learnt before i know what i say,so it's either you humble yourself or keep to what you think you know.
If there is no human son of God apart from Adam due to inherited sin from Adam,and the first time God bought humans as sons is when they became born again, certainly sons of God before the born again issue can't be sinful humans with Adamic sin but angels.
They were perfect like Adam so if they left the assignment God gave them to come down [Jude 6] and start mating with female humans,then they've chosen WICKEDNESS! They weren't created with wickedness nah so if they chose to be disobedient then their fate will be the same as that of disobedient humans! Psalms 82:6,7 compared to Psalms 37:9-11

Imagine, I want to argue but not learning...so it's your demonic doctrines that I should learn

You learnt before you know what to say, yet you're committing blunders everywhere here...see back to your learning school.

I know you people can twist anything just even your own website just to propagate your delusion doctrines.

The statement read "The Nephilim were giants, the violent superhuman offspring produced when wicked angels mated with human women in the days of Noah."

In fact, had it been you read the link I provided you'll have seen that you contradicted your organization.

This is what they wrote at the second paragraph
"The Bible account says that “the sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful.” ( Genesis 6:2 ) Those ‘sons of God’ were actually spirit creatures who rebelled against God when they “forsook their own proper dwelling place” in heaven, materialized human bodies, and “began taking as wives all whom they chose.”​— Jude 6; Genesis 6:2

How can a rebellious angels still be called SONS OF GOD

I will continue to watch how you and your brothers will continue to dance around...

Lastly, the term Son of God was used even before the advent of born again came by Jesus Christ.

Maximus69:
Arrogance is killing you!
You don't understand something and just because the undeniable explanations is coming from your supposed enemies,you're becoming heady!
If Paul said all[including you and i] have sinned and fall short of God's glory,then who could those sons of God in Noah's days be? They were referred to as sons of God after Adam's condemnation,and all of Adam's children are born in Sin!
You just like arguing blindly against Jehovah's Witnesses so check yourself!
There is no fallen angel until those angel came mating with the daughters of men! Read your Bible and meditate instead of stubbornly arguing in ignorance. 2Peter 2:4,5

I know your advocate will soon come to apologize on your behalf...just like I said earlier what you need is to enroll in a children class for Bible stories

Go through this link from official website of JWs and see what they say

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/nephilim-giants/

First paragraph read "The Nephilim were giants, the violent superhuman offspring produced when wicked angels mated with human women in the days of Noah."

Now how can wicked angels be called sons of God

I want answer please....

CANTICLES:
He was flesh and bone.

Then he was a human at that very moment

Daniel 10:18 isnt a vision , Verse 15-17 proved it.

So it was an image that touch Daniel?

It's evident that you can't do without lies and falsehood

Now look at verse 16 the one that was even after verse 15

"Then one who looked like a man touched my lips, and I opened my mouth and said to the one who stood in front of me: “My lord, I am shuddering because of the vision, and I have no strength"

Besides, what we read from verse 1 is "...a revelation was given to Daniel, who was called by the name Bel·te·shazʹzar;..."

It's evident that Daniel 10 is all about vision and not physical experience..

CANTICLES:
Not at all, the term sons of the True God identify who they are.

Genesis 6:4
when the sons of God went in to the daughters of humans, who bore children to them.

Clear distinction was made.

Daughters OF MEN and SONS of GOD.

So wicked angels are SONS OF God...

For them to have sexual organ and be able to have intercourse with real woman means they are actually human at that moment too...

This doesn't mean I subscribed to your point of Sons of God means Angels having sex with human...

Nephilims are earthly creatures having Flesh and blood just as their mother's, but their strength was GIGANTIC beyond normal human due to the kind of fathers they have.

Genesis 6:4 says " the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.
"

Mary giving birth to Jesus by supernatural means doesn't remove him from being humans

So upon all the shout about NEPHILIM you can just simply say THEY ARE HUMAN TOO...

*Men of renown was not found only nephilim people with earthly father and mother were also said to be men of renown
*Samson strength was GAGANTIC beyond normal human
*Goliath was a giant and mighty man

So what make them special when an earthly father and mother have produced such

Years later He wrote a letter to the king of isreal ( 2King 21:12

Olodo...it's 2 chronicles 21:12

So because chronicles was after the king it means Elijah wrote a letter after he was taking to heaven...smh

If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one says the scripture.

They are resurrected to a spiritual body as God pleases just like Christ. Put to death in flesh, raised to live in spirit1/quote]

What happened to their body in that instance, is the question?

Besides, to fall asleep means to die...

[quote]He wasn't in a vision when TOUCHED , So the man has blood with that appearance ?

For the last time, it was a vision!

CANTICLES:
Now you can't deny he was in bodily form . Surely

Bodily form means he has flesh and bones...that was why asked...so answer my question.

U lack knowledge, it was after others have related their experience with Jesus to Thomas . this prompted him to want to witness the same .
. Which Christ Did .

He walked through Walls and ability to appear and disappear at will , make them imagine its a spirit, but he was Materialized in their presence, so could Say he is flesh and bones. But not flesh and blood.

After the contradictory what else do I need to say to a deluded person?

Jesus can say He is flesh and bones but not flesh and bones...only God can deliver you sha!

[quote]He wasn't in a Vision when he touched him ( Open your eyes and read Daniel 10:15-17 where Daniel discuss the vision with him )

Lie kill you there!

The whole of Daniel 10 is a VISION/REVELATION given to him.


Don't worry I know it's not going to take long when I will refer you back to this thread because I know you're trying to claim what happened in Daniel 10 is physical and not just VISION....

CANTICLES:
Mark 16:4,5 relating the same event says his appearance his like a young MAN

Fully human with that countenance ?

You must be kidding

Did he have Flesh and bones? like Jesus

Must you lie ?

The reason he ask Thomas to come and touch was because Thomas himself vowed not to believe until he touched him. It has nothing to do with your image theory . that young man the women saw is in Bodily form , full of glory . even engage In a conversation with the women that they were terrified, even had to calm them . that look like it depends on blood to live or maintain his glory ?

You're the real liar here...

Now, we can ask these questions:
1. Why would Thomas VOWED not to believe until he touched the resurrected Jesus if Jesus didn't resurrect with His body?
2. Shouldn't this indicate that Thomas was expecting to see a physical body before he made that vow?
3. Why Jesus didn't correct Thomas's view about resurrection but only to come and deceive him with fake body?

In fact, when Jesus appeared when thomas was not there the Scripture recorded it that they were first afraid and taught they have seen SPIRIT...yet what Jesus did was to correct that perception that No! what they see isn't SPIRIT but the real Him..that's why we read "Behold my hands and my feet, It is I myself...handle me and see for a SPIRIT has no flesh and bones as you SEE ME HAVE"

Jesus statement here was very clear and straight forward but only someone with a heart of devil will twist it.

An IMAGE according to you touched Daniel ?

Shifted from bodily form to touch. Well done

Daniel was in a VISION....why so daft like this?

CANTICLES:
The expression " sons of the true God " points to angels . The bible later refer to them as angels who left their proper abode

Off topic...

Question is: Why is there union producing GIANT Nephilims if they are fully human ? If they were men why did Nephilims end after the flood ?

Now you have started using both GIANT and NEPHILIM together whereas Giant is the rendering of the Hebrew word nephilim

Imaging, see the question this olodo is asking me...when you suppose to explain to us why will God say He will destroy MAN but your Nephilim that aren't MAN was destroyed

Let's see the summary of your claim
1. Nephilim weren't human
2. God promised was to DESTROY HUMAN
3. How come everyone one earth was destroyed by the flood INCLUDING the nonhuman Nephilim?

In fact, the fact that you claim the flood destroyed the Nephilim is evident that they are human...if not the flood didn't suppose to have effect on them...

You can show us Nephilims that survived beyond the flood ?

Pray tell us why the flood will affect the Nephilim when God promised to destroy ONLY HUMAN and EVERYTHING HE CREATED ON EARTH? Was Nephilim part of God creation on EARTH?

Or let me use your very word, are they earthly creatures

Neither do you understand it. Its another topic entirely

I won't allow you go away with this

Which location was Elijah transported to according to the Scripture?

You lie too much

1 Cor 15:51 Look! I tell you a sacred secret: We will not all fall asleep in death , but we will all be changed

He didn't say they won't die. Death occurs before a person can sleep in death. But because of instant resurrection, such ones won't fall asleep in death not that they won't die.

And for that ressurection verse 44,49 clarifies, its raised in the image of the heavenly one because they have an heavenly hope not earthly body anymore.

I can't stop laughing at your ignorance...

Death occurs before falling asleep in death, you're a real olodo...

So what will kill those people before resurrection taken place?

What happened to their dead body?

Also, why would their body change/transform after they have died

Are you now agree with us that the body that one died with is the same that will resurrect with?

Biggest Olodo as Yoruba people will say . ordinary image touch Daniel

Daniel 10:18 the one who looked like a man TOUCHED me again .

Is he fully human despite he materialized and with those description of him ?

After I showed you that Daniel was in a VISION you can still come to say thrash...

TATIME:
Sorry Sir,He forgot to tell you that Adam was the first and last REAL human son of God BEFORE HE SINNED!

Sorry for your ignorance first not me

So from amongst SINFUL humans the early Christians knows that none of us qualifies to be called son of God unless you're re~connected to him by water and spirit, that is the full meaning of 'born again' as you and i are born in sin!

Now, this is where we're going.

So the Sons of God in Genesis are they fallen Angels? Remembered because of sin we're not qualified to be called sons of God.

Was that event happened before Satan and his Angels rebelled against God or after the rebellion

Don't derail my questions by bringing up irrelevant statements.

Jehovah's Witnesses nah Baba i tell you!

Yet you twist, misquote, misrepresent, and attack strawman argument....

Self delusion!