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Barristter07:
Oyinbo Gidigba fixed!

See how Trinity is disgracing you upandan

Nature here refer to substance


Why didn't you add that prefix " one " to the above and see how they sound as well

One animal , one Spirit , one plant

This is why your analogy is a blunder

Imagine a man referring to all plants as " One plant " abeg I no fit laugh..

Just sorry unfortunate that you're attacking a straw man...

The purpose of adding 'ONE' is to express how we're being viewed because of our essence.

You're the one who intentionally twist it to your wack view.

So the way billions of peple are ONE HUMAN because of their essence so also God.

Or simply put, man and woman make up HUMAN likewise The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit make up God.

Haha

How did believing the scripture that Christ was created change everything about him ?

You change scripture to assign creation to Christ not what the scripture says.

The scripture says Christ is ETERNAL LIFE, how can something that is eternal created

This is the question I do ask you people but failed to answer...

Barristter07:
" So just as billions of people living in the world today are ONE HUMAN "

The silly one is the person that didn't comprehend well to have said I agree with this blunder above .

If they say one human died in an accident, na billion of people died ? wetin Trinity go do your life ehn

You keep exposing your ignorance.

TO OTHER ENTITIES billions of people living in the world are ONE HUMAN meaning we have the same essence/nature.

Human do refer to things like
ANIMAL
PLANT
SPIRIT

Whereas within them there are classes of them...but to us snake, fish, eagle are ANIMAL

One human is a single human Ogbeni , check the example I gave above

Why are we called Human?

You're a human
I'm a human

Why not spirit, Animal, Ghost e.t.c

You are the one fighting him, according to Jesus , who is the Only (One ) true God ?

But you change everything about Him and deny His deity.

Barristter07:

A word can have many meanings, it doesn't mean they are all suitable or right for the context, there are places where arche was translated beginning that if source or origin was used, it won't have any meaning.


But for revelation 3:14, to render it as source is to CONTRADICT the scripture which says the Father is the source of all things- this is why such s translation is highly demonic!

So you know a word has different meanings and it depends on context to know how it can be used yet you decide the one that suits you without considering the meaning and context....that's double standard!

Yet you failed to grab the context of the same text simply because your mind has been beclouded by the lies of GB.

The context of that verse is simply means The Word is over all creation just as some versions put it;

New International Version
the ruler of God's creation.

New Heart English Bible
the Head of God's creation, says these things:

So do you now agree he is a creation going by that which you agree with?

Olodo...only God knows how you passed your English class.

So because a version rendered it as BEGINNING to you it's CREATED

Same reason others added "of "

but 'of' and 'by' carried different meaning and can change the meaning of a sentence.

Barristter07:
For the records, Jesus isn't the source /originator of Creation. That makes those versions the Demonic ones. POINT 1.

Olodo...show us the lexical word translated as BEGINNING in that verse, let's consider it as you claim.

Now do you agree with the highlighted?

Olodo....was it only that version that rendered it that way?

Yes I agree?

Now why did your own version add BY to it?

Barristter07:
Lies .

" [Jesus] the beginning of the Creation by God " - Revelation 3:14

Stay away from demonic NWT for the benefit of your salvation.

New International Version
the ruler of God's creation.

New Living Translation
the beginning of God's new creation:

English Standard Version
the beginning of God’s creation.

Berean Study Bible
the Originator of God’s creation.

Berean Literal Bible
the Beginning of God's creation.

New American Standard Bible
the Beginning of the creation of God, says this:

Christian Standard Bible
the originator of God's creation:

Contemporary English Version
I am the faithful and true witness and the source of God's creation. Listen to what I say.

Good News Translation
who is the origin of all that God has created.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
the Originator of God's creation says:

International Standard Version
the originator of God's creation, says this:

NET Bible
the originator of God's creation:

New Heart English Bible
the Head of God's creation, says these things:

It's only your version that added 'BY' to that verse so that your GB will continue to manipulate your mind.

Barristter07:
One human? The other time, it was one Man. So you brought this silly grammatical blunder here

After you called it grammatical blunder you went ahead to agree with it, aren't you the one silly here?

For the records, one human is a Single or Only Human in a group, Two humans are two separate humans, 3,4,5 so on

In a group of what Mr ITK

So keep those lies, @blue... Are you now fighting with Jesus at John 17:3?

You sure who is fighting with Jesus every day....JWs

Janosky:
Mr man , your statement/question means that U condemned your comrade, Johnw comments & in the same breadth condemned your Trinity doctrine.

*Entity - "Some thing that exists separately from other things and has it's own identity"
(Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary).
Mr lying Pharisee and educated illiterate, if u grasp what 'ENTITY' means, your brain will tell U that the only true God ,Jehovah (Jn17:3) is not Jesus.
And Jehovah God is NOT your false 3 in 1 entities of Father, Son, holy spirit.
U have condemned your satanic doctrine from all angles.
Go look for another lie to blow here

I can see how you stylishly boycotted your first lies which I exposed your ignorance about.

Now you resorted to another lie and begin to jump around

Look at the two bolden parts, it shows you're totally lost in the subject matter and you're diving into what you don't know. Instead of you to ask someone to tutor you, you keep exposing your ignorance.

Virtually, most JWs lack comprehensive understanding of TRINITY yet they fail to ask question.

Let me enlighten you so that you won't repeat the same mistake on public forum again.

Firstly, the word 'God' is a generic word like Human that differentiate the person of supreme Being from others i.e Angels, human, animals e.t.c

Secondly, to differentiate human from Animals the generic word 'human' can be use as ONE to refer to the entire people on earth.

Lastly, when we are talking about God we're simply saying the attributes that differentiate this entity from human or others. This is what happened to our early forefathers that made them to ascribed the word 'GOD' to different entities.

But what is the scriptural truth?
The truth is the ONLY TRUE GOD of the universe was not created, everlasting and uphold the universe with His own Power.

Yet all these are also true about Jesus Christ.

But what did you people say?
You agree that there's ONE TRUE God but also agreed that Jesus is also A god.

Yet you can't boldly answer if Jesus is a false god...

To solve the confusion you people are into, since Bible has already established that 'The Word' which became human and known as Jesus is uncreated, everlasting and uphold the universe with His own power yet different from the person who we know as Father. Then, He is God!

So just as billions of people living in the world today are ONE HUMAN (meaning we are of the same NATURE/ESSENCE) to other entities so the three PERSONS identified in the scripture as uncreated and everlasting are ONE TRUE God.

Janosky:
Jesus was begotten, who beget Jehovah?

I believe you don't take the meaning of begotten here to mean as a mother given birth to a child.

The fact is Jesus was not CREATED

* "Essence is defined as the core nature or the most qualities of a person"
https://www.yourdictionary.com/essence

* NATURE
" The fundamental qualities of a person or thing"
https://www.collinsdictionary.com


* Nature & Essence meaning the same thing. But pagans who worship triune gods have weaved fictitious meanings into both words.

Just so unfortunate that you can still cherry pick from your own link, anyway it's not new as JWs read but only pick any part that suits them and ignore the rest. just as they do to Bible.

From the link you provided, this was boldly written there: essence;
1. something that is, or exists; entity
2. that which makes something what it is; intrinsic, fundamental nature or most important quality (of something); essential being
3. a. a substance that keeps, in concentrated form, the flavor, fragrance, or other properties of the plant, drug, food, etc. from which it is extracted; essential oil
b. a solution of such a substance or oil in alcohol
c. a perfume
4. PHILOS.
a. the inward nature of anything, underlying its manifestations; true substance
b. the indispensable conceptual characteristics and relations of anything

But take a look at 1&2 and see how it falsified your point.

U dey see am?
"He is everlasting and uncreated" are not the qualities (essence/ nature) of the only true God, Jehovah, the Father & God of Jesus Christ.

They are, stop displaying your ignorance here...from above point and the one here...

Nature: The basic or inherent features, character, or qualities of something. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/nature

A child has the nature/essence of his father when he displays sterling qualities his Father is well known for, such as kindness, meekness, humility, honesty etc .
(Jesus says he speaks what Jehovah taught him (Jesus), John8:24-28,38. 7:16,28,29, that's how Jesus learned & copied his Father Jehovah's nature/ essence.
He did what his Father did & approved.)

So we can then say YOU and Jehovah have the same NATURE/ESSENCE as well since you possess those characteristics. isn't it?

Then why the need for John 1:1 if you as a human can have the same nature/essence as Jehovah.

From here, it's evident that it's either you're lost or ignorant of you're saying.

It does not in anyway mean that that Father (Jehovah) & child (Jesus) are one single entity (God) or encased/operate in singular spirit body.

Where have you heard anyone saying The Father and Son are the same ENTITY?

This is how your founding fathers are also ignorant of the subject matter of TRINITY.

Mr man, your Trinity scam is a satanic invention.

When you don't even know it

Janosky:
What is the essence/ nature of Jesus Father ,Jehovah?
Make you reply ,I beg.

He is everlasting and uncreated...

What nature/essence were you referring to when you said Jesus and His Father has the same nature/essence?

reply asap

Janosky:
Olaadegbu has the nature/essence of his father but he is not his father, that is what John1:1 is saying.

Now that you agreed that the Word (Later became Jesus) has the same nature/essence with His Father.


Do you also know that, it was this same NATURE/ESSENCE that made the Father God?

OLAADEGBU:
There is a logical fallacy in the argument that Mary is the mother of God
by Matt Slick

The Roman Catholic Church often calls Mary the "mother of God." They say...

"Since Mary is Jesus' mother, it must be concluded that she is also the Mother of God: If Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God, then Mary is the Mother of God. There is no way out of this logical syllogism, the valid form of which has been recognized by classical logicians since before the time of Christ."¹

There is a sense in which the syllogism is true, but also another in which it is not. Let's take a look.

https://carm.org/mary-mother-of-god-logical-fallacy

Most people yet not grab the concept of scripture's picture about Jesus Christ that's why there are different view about Him.

The truth that was hidden in the scripture is:
Though Jesus was God prior to His earthly life yet He didn't come to earth as God even though divinity was hidden in His humanity.

So inability to distinguish where the scripture is referring to His heavenly life and earthly life is the source of all confusion.

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forwardvent:
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