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tintingz: There are false prophets maybe the founder of judaism not the prophets chosen by God,

Who are these false prophets?

not Moses(as) there is no where in the bible Moses mention "judaism" nor God declare judaism to be the faith of the people.

Truly not Moses but you miss something. Judaism simply means "the Faith which people of Judah follow". Judah is one of the sons of Jacob/Isreal whom Jacob prayed for to lead the rest so they quickly refer to the whole race as JUDAH/CHILDREN OF ISRAEL before they begin to separated after getting to the promise land.Muhammad also missed this story here when he wrote in sura 20:87-97. Here he claimed a Samiri(Samaritan) leads the children of Judah/Isreal astray when Moses went to the mountain for Ten commandment, [size=14pt]of which Samarita never existed not until 700 years after the death of Moses.[/size] Have you ever asked yourself, While God told Moses to write down the Torah?

The God of Moses is one God maybe the christian/jews god is multiple not the God Jesus(as) worshiped.

Is it the same God who spoke to Moses that spoke to Muhammad?

This is another lame statement, no where in the Bible you will ever see written "and Jesus worshipped God"

From Abraham to all prophets before Jesus they always deliver God's message as "the God said, I hear the voice of the Lord; saying, and I saw in a vision e.t.c" Only Jesus excluded, why? because He is God on earth with a saying like "Very very I said to you, Have you not heard!, your sins have been forgiven e.t.c"

runzlord: safe journey

Amen

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harbiola1: Which child?

My child.

"the land whose two kings you dread will be forsaken."
^^
1. Who was God talking to?

Obj & Gej

2. Which Lands and why would they be forsaken.

Nigeria because of corruption.

"shortly after the birth of the Child."
Which child?

My uncle's senior wife's child.

carzola: Why dos'nt God want man to be as wise as him.. Every time man draws close in wisdom he destroys. Like the tower that was being built to reach the heavens... At times i just feel God wanted us to live like animals buh all thanks to satan we have technology..

See what God have for you and read with an open mind.
14 But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth.
15 Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic.
16 For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice.
17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.
18 Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.

Op you're on point ooooo
Infact I can sense the tiny voice in the mind of our Daddy Adam before he collected the fruit from Mummy Eve.

Something like "you have come with this one again just let me eat it so that I can satisfy you"

Op bacheloh is the best option, nothing like;
*why didnt you call me since morning? If you call like 3-4times in a day...you will hear, what has come over you, you're not like this....

In our world today you don't need to be told before telling yourself the truth that something is truly going wrong somewhere somehow which is causing all these chaos.

Bible reference was taken from the book of Genesis 3:1-5
To minimized space I will only quote verse 4&5.
4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.
5 For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Previous verses show a conversation between Eve and a serpent which scripture later revealed that the serpent is "Satan"

After God created Adam & Eve, He gave them instruction not to eat from a certain fruit among the trees in the garden but with this instruction Satan made an accusation against God by called God a liar, how? He told the woman you will not die. It means Satan was claiming God is lying to you, but I'm the one telling you the truth. This is an issue that require time to settle to know who is truly honest about his word.

When Adam & Eve died, doesn't it prove that God is the one telling the truth and Satan is the one who is lying? Obviously, it did! But there was more to Satan's challenge.

Looking at verse 5 "...then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be like God, knowing good and bad" So Satan claimed that God was withholding something good from humans. This is the major challenge because by his words, Satan implied that Eve -and by extension(because God has said be fruitful and muitiply), all humans- would be better off without God's rulership.

When Adam & Eve finally hearken unto Satan's voice, the best way to address this by God, is to allow time to pass. God then polluted the universe in form of a curse by withdrawing some of His powers that substain the universe and allowed Satan and man to be in charge as Satan has already claimed.

The major point is not that God is playing any game with Satan but just to let Satan knows that he can never ever be like Him. Satan first rebellion is that he wants to be like the Most High having his own dominion this is the same impression Satan puts toward man that made man fell.

All the suffering we're seeing today i.e earthquake, hurricane, diseases, death, including Man causes are as a result of Satan thinking and opening man's eyes to be like God, ruling his own affair without God's control.

God has condemned Satan already into everlasting destruction by his actions, the eternal fire was not made for any human but for satan and his fallen angels. Then how can human be part of this eternal destruction? Anyone who still lives under Satan's lie will be one of his angel which God has already condemned with him.

From his lie flows out;
*All sort of immortality,
*murderer,
*evil knowledge (Man think there is no God and he can better off without God)
*inventor of evil things e.t.c

But as for those who are ready to be free from all these lies, God has given us a brief on this through His word-Bible and about 2000years ago a lamb shielded his blood for purification on the cross of Calvary. It only takes faith to believe and have assess to the promise of the Father because God has chosen a day in Himself to destroy Satan and his angels.

Will you be among the angels of satan who have already been condemned or being among those who God has reconciled unto Himself through Christ to escape the destruction?

harbiola1: but i hope u don't think that u're dealing with sheep?

I'm not but I do know I'm dealing with a slave.

Who is chapter verse 15-16 talking about because u stopped at 14?

The verses are still talking about the Child. Have it in mind that none of the verse(15-16) is referring to the war which God has declared nought!
NIV: "He will eat curds and honey at the time He knows enough to refuse evil and choose good. 16 For before the boy will know enough to refuse evil and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread will be forsaken."

This is a prophecy for house of Judah about trials to come upon Assyria & Ephraim including Judah itself by adding verse 17 shortly after the birth of the Child.

then i'll remove my cap for you.

You don't need to but just get everlasting life in you which is Jesus Christ by believing that He has come and pay the ransom.

SALAM!

Shalom!

Whether peopl e like it or not the word "EXISTENCE" wouldn't have come to stay without God.
To God existence simply means what came to be through Him not what have being before Him because God could not swear by anything greater than Him instead He said to Abraham in blessing I will bless you. Heb 6:13

To Man existence means "from beginning" that's why in explaining this Man thought God must be included whereas God made it clear that He is the beginning and the end.
Majority of people never understand this phrase "the beginning and the end" this simply means to Him the word existence is trash. the name that God gave to Moses "I AM THAT I AM" or simple "I AM" is best described the thougt of God about Himself before the universe came into being.

I AM/Alpha/the beginning(before the universe was) THAT (after the universe)I AM/Omega/the end.

RoyPCain: @emusan ismael like eve ry human is within the family of Adam and the second father of humans, Noah [as to each of the two prophets]. Ishmael is the son of Abraham [as] and he is from his family. why are you raising cane for nothing? And Muhammad [SA] is from the bloodline of Adam, Noah, Ibrahim, Ismail [as to each of them].

I don't like replying your post because you always go around without making any sense.
Just take a review of all what you have posted and compared them with the OP and everyone comment whether they compliment each other.

Now you are claiming that Noah is the second family of humans when Quran only claimed that Noah's flood is local not world wide. Can you see this inconsistency in your book?

Imaging Allah also claimed that he gave David the Psalms when the book of Psalms was not written by a single person. What about that?

Your rudeness is a thing that requires fasting and prayer.

Honestly, what you people need is a Bible study teacher right beside you not over internet study. But just let me enlighten your knowledge.

The chapter you're talking about verse 1-16 is devided into three parts.

1) verse 1-9 were talking about a coup planning by some kings in fighting against king Ahaz or simply Judah. God's message to king Ahaz is very straight forward, in verse 7 God told king Ahaz through Prophet Isaiah that their counsel/plan will never work verse 7: NASB:thus says the Lord God: “It shall not stand nor shall it come to pass.
NIV:Yet this is what the Sovereign Lord says: “‘It will not take place, it will not happen,
So God has said it shall not stand or takes place.

2) Verse 10-12 according to verse 7 God has already told king Ahaz that their plan won't work but for king Ahaz to know that God had spoken and it will come to pass. God said king Ahaz should ask for a sign but king Ahaz as a wise one who knows the sovereignty of God he decided not to doubt nor tempt God.

3) Where you got it wrong is because "sign" appeared in verse 11&14. Verse 13-17 is another part. Here the message has been shifted from king Ahaz now for the whole house of David, Judah is the house in which the Messiah will come, now these people have been waiting to a point that they are too anxious for the Messiah to come. verse 13 really elaborates this point NASB:Then he said, “Listen now, O house of David! Is it too slight a thing for you to try the patience of men, that you will try the patience of my God as well?
NIV:Then Isaiah said, “Hear now, you house of David! Is it not enough to try the patience of humans? Will you try the patience of my God also?
First, this message is for the whole House of David who are waiting for a Messiah not for king Ahaz only. Then verse 14 stated that God Himself will give them a sign when the Messiah will come.
Only if you can remove the wrong glass you put on then you can see it. The message of the sign of a virgin given birth does not in any way connected with the plan of those kings because God has already spoken that it won't take place.

Beside mind the way you use the word "Holyspirit" for your own good.

And I don't know the essence of open this thread, is it that Jesus was not born by a virgin or you just find the prophecy too hard to comprehend like Muhammad?



Shalom!

JENMAUCY: [size=14pt]I don't think anything wil hapened to them because its a matter of choice.[/size] its just like when you don't feel like talking to somebody and mind your buisness

@bolded-But what if the choice is wrong in the sight of God? because the will of Man can't prevail against the will of God.

Op just a question;
Are all christians God fearing?

[quote author=Nso-nso]@ macelliot
I am a catholic. We know & are 100% sure of our doctrine. We are not arguing wit anybody abt Mother Mary neither ar we pressing to give anybody proofs. Dear, d post is uncalled for as they will never be humble to listen let alone accept. This will generate into profane & unprofitable words which are not doing any gud to our spirituality; instead it provides an occassion for sin.
Peace of Christ Jesus be wit u.[/quote]Just a question pls
What will happen to those who didn't honour Mary?

This is where you suppose tell yourself the truth by knowing that the God who inspired Moses to write Torah was different from the one who inspired Muhammad.

In sura 37:75-78 Quran was claiming two things
1. Only Noah's decendant survived the flood which negate other vreses that says other people entered the Ark with Noah.
2. Only Noah's descendant gained the earth which beg for the question what happen to rest who entered Ark with him or the other people if the flood is local?

Mee234: adam built kaba. abraham rebuilt it. this manho must be a person(apology to logic boy)

Don't mind them especially mahdino.
After Qur'an claimed in numerous verses that Adam was the first Man created by Allah it still went ahead to say God choses Adam above people. It means people are living before Adam.

Sura 3:33 Allah did choose [size=14pt]Adam[/size] and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,

@mamhdino-Stop validating your religion with Christian and tell yourself the truth.

Bidam: The word FATHER doesn't mean secular father, if it means secualr father who is the mother The word Father refers to God's being the source from which Jesus was sent . Jesus did not exist as a person in heaven. He exist as THE WORD OF GOD. YOU CANNOT SEPARATE GOD FROM HIS WORD. The WORD now became flesh and dwelt among men. So when Jesus came to earth through the virgin birth by the Power of the Holy Ghost, He came as 100percent Man AND 100PERCENT GOD.So what the bible is saying is that God is ONE, but He expresses himself in three distinct personalities and dimensions. That is to say Both Jesus and the Spirit proceeded from the FATHER.

This is perfect term of Trinity but they won't agree because to them Holy spirit is just a force.

God: the Father..
The Son....is the word of the Father who became flesh in the person of Jesus Christ.
The Holyspirit.....the Spirit of the Father.

Bidam you've really tried with these people. Kudos!!!

truthislight: Jman is not the Judge of Man.



but this is what God says in the bible:

"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the 'truth'." (1 Timothy 2:3-4).
............

That ^ is what God the altimate judge of all men says.

It is God's will that people get to "know the 'truth' to be saved".

How doest this thrash answer my question?

solelymade: This speaking in tongue palava don tire me sef.. One of the reasons I will contemplate changing fellowship.

They tell you to speak in tongues after one wuruwuru prayer session, saying you should speak it out of faith and God help you u don't na ya head the whole CEC go dey pray on believing u dey possess or of little or no faith.

Now what gets me wondering is that most ladies tend to speak in tongues after this session while the guys don't after been told to speak it out of faith i.e whatever gibberish you can produce speak it while holding it in good faith of speaking spirit inspired tongues .

Moreso if they can use that faith to believe they are speaking in heavenly tongues then why do they find it difficult to use the same faith to manifest the gifts of interpretation, healing, revelation etc on a generalised level.

I believe the gift has been widely abused, the holy spirit gives to us as he deems necessary and not everyone. At least na Wetin the bible talk be dat. 1 corinthians 12: 4-11

May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God and the swift fellowship of the Holyspirit be with us all.

The presence of the Holyspirit causes speaking in tongues(It means either to deliever a message through you including interpretation or to help you interced in prayer). It remains permanent at constant fellowship with Him. So any denomination that is forcing you to speak in tongue when you know that Holyspirit is not present with you pls R.U.N

hisblud: where is it written "spirit person"?

That is their newly added word, only God knows what they will be teaching in Ten years to come if Jesus taries.

This is their definition of God now "God is an invisible spirit person"--watchtower Jan 2014, back page.

According to them if Spirit means; Air, wind or force. Something is seriously wrong with this definition.

Though JMAN05 and his like will never see it.

JMAN05: let me show you that the same can be said of you. this bidam is stiff-necked and rebellious just like the Israelite. [size=14pt]he has been brainwashed by pagan doctrines.[/size] I pray God in His infinite mercy doesn't give up on him but delivers him.Kenneth Hagin once said the most difficult spirit to cast out is religious spirits.God help us.

Pls a question about that bolded part, what will happen to those who practise this doctrine?

What are you saying, I can see you can't understand that my post.

mahdino: Why do u take Jesus as a prophet now, when we call him a prophet u say he is not, but ur God.

No Christian we ever tell you that Jesus never play a role of a Prophet while on Earth. Even many people refers to Him as a prophet during His life time. The onious is on you people who try to place Him above against what your book claimed and later bring Him back to be the same person.

You can see this when Muslims are using Deu 18:15-18 to claim that People never believe that Jesus is a prophet (it means Muslims believed He is more than a prophet) but going to Quran He is purely prophet. Is this not a confusion?

Ok, since u believe now that Jesus is a prophet then u should understand that at the time of every prophet there is a prophecy of the next prophet and a testimony of the present prophet, so if at the time of Jesus people testify that he is the prophet of that time, then why does he have to say that there is another coming? And why do the people search for another prophet.

Muhammad say Bible contains a dark prophecies because the spirit of God never walked with him through out his ministry.

See the message of God to tell you that Muhammad doesn't receive his message from the God who spoke to Noah, Moses, Isaiah e.t.c
Numbers 12:6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.
No prophet will ever come from God without having personal encounter or receive directly from God. Only Muhammad claim different! Food for thought for you.

Beside no time to waste on Holyspirit about being Muhammad or not because only a closed minded person can look at how many time the statements of Jesus about Holyspirit and still conclude muhammad fulfilled the prophecies.


Shalom!

mahdino: Brother, are u saying that John the baptist whom your bible testify that there has never been one born of a woman as great as John, does not know the difference between Elais, Christ and the prophet? I know that u know that the Jews and John were talking of 3 different people. Now because the answer of the question is going to be Mohammad u don't want to accept it rather u prefer to call Jesus know a prophet, your God? Please use your God given intelligent and accept the truth. I don't know what the spirit is doing to u that u can't make out the difference between 3 and 2 this is simple basic english but if u don't want to respect John and the bible then u can as well say that Elais, Christ and the prophet are the same. U read in english but u understand the opposite of it. Jesus prophesied about u people that claim u are following him, "hearing they hear not, seeing they see not neither do they understand" if u love and respect Jesus u will keep the laws and commandment as he said in Matt 5:17 and follow the last and final messenger of God Mohammad as Jesus said when HE(Mohammad) comes shall guide u into all truth... John 16:12-14. If u want to examine that the spirit Jesus is refering to is a man check 1John 4:1-2

The same old shi.t
you still blind not to see my post above about this.

harbiola1: Is that the only thing u could see there eh?

Can't you see that Mintayo is accusing those people of delusion.

Of course I saw it all but the same conclusion with you people is what I put
pull out.
Mintayo has tried enough to make it clear for you but the ability to open your mind and tell yourself the truth is a problem.

70/100%.

I see. If time and space could allow us to expantiate this 70/30 I believe 70 of it will be those verses that didn't support your book while the remain 30 will be those that do.

Anyway, the same thing happened in muhammad's time because he agreed that Bible contains a very dark prophecies. Sura 35:25 "And if they reject thee, so did their predecessors, to whom came their messengers with Clear Signs, Books of dark prophecies, and the Book of Enlightenment.

So keep living in dark prophecies of Bible while people have been helping you to put light on them. So that you won't end up the way Muhammad end his life.

Lb I support your view.

Like I said sometimes ago that "Atheist have been helping Jesus to seperate shaft from wheat" because many christians really don't know the God their serving i.e Logicboy & co. Some are still christians because they were born into it.

In Sport section I saw a brother who was trying to advise a new NLer he said "don't spend much time on religion section because you might turn to an Atheist" I was like hmmmm.

I remember this verse "the hour will not come withiout fallen away first" and Jesus says "whosoever will endure in faith till He comes will He give the crown of life"

Guilty conscience!

harbiola1: Another discrepance!

No time Muslims and Christians debate on issue like this without end up with this statement.

Ask yourself why is it like that?

The book you believed it full of many discrepances but you can still sneak into it to know your prophet is inside.

hisblud: oya all jw lets port to that thread yooguz opened and lets trash the other false doctrine of arch angel michael.

You can see how Jman05 ran away from that thread.
Imaging for good 50years JWs can't recognize who Angel Micheal is and for over 70years they never know maybe Jesus should be worshipped or not? confuse set of people.

harbiola1: 1.Jesus is not considered as a Prophet but Muhammed is.

Anytime you people try to force Muhammad into Bible; thinking facaulty always find missing.
Now if you agree that Jesus is not consider as a Prophet just to suite your claim. what will happen when you go back to Quran which says Jesus is a prophet?
This are the people who will craw into Bible to show that Jesus is a prophet.....confusion and lies full your mouth.

2. Jesus is not the Jewish brethen because himself is a Jew. The Jews are 1 racial entity.

I see you missed the very point here "IN THE MIDST OF THEE" not outside them.

Jews and Arabs are brethen from Sarah and Hagar.
"And Abraham called his Son's name which Hagar borne Ishmael." Gen. 16:15

"And Abraham took Ishmael His Son"
Gen. 17:23.

Till the age of 13 year Ishmael is refered to as the ONLY SON of Abraham.

"And he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his BRETHEN" Gen. 16:12

"And he (Ishmael) died in the presence of all his BRETHEN"
Gen. 25:18.

See story.

Who are the BRETHEN of Ishmael in these verses?

Who is now the promise Son?

(3)like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken.

They will he from the Prophet the same way they used to hear from Moses.

Read the verse 18 together with it. which says "I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethen, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; [size=14pt]and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him".[/size]
@bold-Did Muhammad hear from God or Angel.

This took me to the book of John 16

4.) 12. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

13. Howbeit when he, the spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth; for HE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF BUT WHATSOEVER HE SHALL HEAR SHALL HE SPEAK.

Even though you cherry pick the verse then why can't you quote it till verse 14....see again "He shall glorify me: [size=14pt]for he shall receive of mine(Jesus), and shall shew it unto you"[/size]
I know you will never agree that it is Jesus who spoke to Muhammad, to be open-minded to yourself read it verse 15 "All things that the Father hath are mine: [size=14pt]therefore said I(Jesus), that he shall take of mine(Jesus), and shall shew it unto you".[/size]
Maybe verse 14&16 were added later right!
I can't see the delusion of you that Muhammad is in the Bible. SMH

I can post 500+ words from the Quran that fulfilled the Prophecies above.

Ofcourse you can but there are words of angel not the word of God nor Jesus.

Now for clarification purpose, u will have to address those 4 prophecies that directly prophesied the coming of A Prophet and the Comforter.

Don't attack me yet on the issue of the Comforter because i've said anything on it. Yours is to just say how Jesus and the Holy spirit fit into those Prophecies.

Jesus fulfilled the prophecy by receiving His commandment from God directly and Holyspirit also Fulfilled His prophecy by Showing the things to come unto the desciples and comfort them and He is not visible.


Shalom!

Logicboy03: Yes, how does it feel to be told that you are more likely to be intelligent if you believe in the stories surrounding christ and the bible?

How does it feel to be told that you are silly for believing ur imagination?



Is it butthurt or do you feel pity for the "militant" atheist?

Tell us, how do you feel?

I will go with the other question "do you feel pity for the militant Atheist?"
Though I won't add the word "pity" but I always look deep down my heart by saying a little prayer like this 'that God who revealed Himself to me that make me stop doubting His existence will surely reveal Himself to Atheist'.

proo212: Mintayo, Emusan,

I understand your position. This has been thrashed on this board severally. From the questions asked, the people knew about Elijah (as a prophet, they were expecting the Messiah as well as the "Prophet"

We can begin to analyse from the prophecy in Deut 18 like you pointed out.

This convicts their prophet in many ways, but I list 3 here

1. He is not from among their brethren (they like to argue that since they are descendants of Ishmael, they are cousins so cousins can mean brethren). If so why was no arab or Ishmaelite a priest even in the house of God. Remember when they came out Egypt, the bible says they had a mixed multitudes with them
2. He didn't hear from God directly (God never spoke to him). An angel revealed things to him, he certainly did not know God face to face.
3. God did mighty works through His "prophets". Signs and wonders followed them except one. Even the disciples of the Messiah and the "Prophet" performed signs and wonders.

Both of these prophets knew when their end had come and had no doubts what their destinies were after their end. The same cannot be said of the prophet who did not know what their God will do with time.

My brother I gat your point that's why I'm asking them that simple question...

See what God Himself said in Num 12:6 "Then He said, “Hear now My words: if there is a prophet among you, I, the Lord, make Myself known to him in a vision; I speak to him in a dream"

Hear God made it clear that NO PROPHET will ever come from Him without having a real encounter with Him either in dream or vision but from the beginning of Quran to the end Muhammad never heard nor see vision directly from God he claimed it was Angel Gabriel which all Muslims will never reject.

I pray God will open their eyes sha!

safarigirl: my dear, there are no mind games, every right-thinking coach and player should know that Nigeria no be beans, no be today we and Argentina get matter, but on July 25th, that matter must close, e be like say FIFA and God wan make we win Argentina before dem go give us another country to play. Only Bosnia's coach is living in lala land as concerns the Super Eagles, by the time we knack them 4-1 e go know say khaki no be leather, amala no be moi-moi

Have been telling people that if Nigeria and Argentina match didn't end in draw, Nigeria will win them they say nah lie...what a faithless people in my country