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lanrexlan: Always asking the same question every time,aren't you tired of it?

umar fantami: IS THERE ANY
CHAPTER AND A VERSE OF THE BIBLE
THAT SAYS MUSLIMS AND
CHRISTIANS SERVING DIFFERENT
GOD. PROVIDE EVIDENCE FROM BIBLE
OR QUR'AN

gbadexy: The writer is correct in a way sha.
It doesn't mean he is not corrupt or a saint, but he is the amongst most sincere.
His achievements were impressive but I suppose •̸Ϟ•̸y most sincere leader would be buharwhy buhari,is it because of his WAR AGAINST INDISCIPLINei.

mahdino: I don't know why christians refuse to see the prophecies about Mohammad (SAW) like that of Isiah 29:12, 25:12?

harbiola1: I worship God while you worship Jesus.

The error is clear.

tintingz: every prophet before Jesus have the word ospiritand his spirit

One thing is that the boss is far greater than the staffs even if the son is among them...but if we go through the bible there are many people refer as son of God not only Jesus(as), they are all servants of God.

larrymoore: u. Can as well define the God of the bible and dat of the muslim, since u keep on repeting the same question.

umar fantami: you didn't answer my question

"which Bible ask you to go to church on Sundays "
answer it first before we talk further. this is my thread. lol

umar fantami: Nehemiah 8:6 And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground.

ARE YOU THE one doing it or Muslim.

umar fantami: . BUT
BIBLE SAYS
Nehemiah 8:6
And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground.

IT THIS WHAT YOU ARE DOING. WE ARE THE ONE DOING IT.

Muslims unlike some of the Christians,

have no issue believing in dinosaur

believing in life before mankind believing in genetic mutations,

believing in speciation or extrapolating the human time-line beyond 6,000 years.

Infact, Islamically it is not problematic at all to accept a universal common ancestor for all life on earth with one exception and that is Man.

Muslims also have to realize that evolutionary science is not bad science. It is a well-researched scientific model that fits the criterion of proper science but it also have the limitations that any scientific theory would have.

Logicboy03: Wait....this is what I do not understand. You have interacted with us and seen that we prefer to just argue based on evidence that [size=14pt]we can see or measure.[/size] How are we misguided? Is it necessary to know christ to live a good life?

safarigirl: I predict Group C

Uruguay
Nigeria
Honduras
Greece

Group B

Argentina
Nigeria
South Korea
Bosnia

Group A

Brazil
Nigeria
Japan
Italy

Group D

Colombia
Nigeria
Australia
Portugal

Group F

Spain
Nigeria
South Korea
England

I think we'll get into one of those groups

texanomaly: Yes...how could he not be? To create such complex machines as the human body? Then there is our solar system, and how it works together. The way oxygen is produced on this planet, the way the tides work, molecular structure, the list is endless. How can one look at all He has created and not see the greatest scientist of all.

dyfatai: Good day christian Nairalanders.
I am a Muslim. I was discussing with christian recently on d topic of salvation.
The discussion was getting interesting until he made a statement that ''Born agains don't sin''. I opened my mouth and cldnt close it. Of course i didn't agree, maybe its because i dnt av d 'holy spirit' as he put it.

This is d verse d@ best justifies d@ claim.
1 john 3-9 ''Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in Him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God''

Is that verse not contradicting dis verse??1 John 1:8-10(KJV)
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

NB:- pls don't be quick to condemn me 4 quoting d Bible, I needed 2 bring d evidence for and against d arguement so d@ i can be best understood.

2- if u feel i dnt av d 'holy spirit' to understand d verses or i av quoted dem out of context, that shldn't cause for fight. Just provide d context of d verses and analyse wit d 'holy spirit'.

Now, my question to nairaland christians......
''Do born agains commit sin?''
''How do we categorize dis practices carried out by christians; backbitting, slander, Lust, Envy, pre-marital sex, FORNICATION, Insult/Abuse etc??

We av 2 be careful how we answer dis questions. Somebody might be quick to conclude that those who practice d aforementioned sins are not really 'born again'. If dis statement is true, d@ means d@ we av less dan 1% born again in the entire world because hardly will we find som1 dat has nt commited one or all of this sins since He/she was baptized.

On a final note, im nt here 2 make trouble with u christians, u can check my sinature for confirmation.

Joel Felix: Ever since the privatisation of NEPA, have you noticed any change in your area? Because my own area, the situation has grown worst than it was before so I don't know if some of you are experiencing the same thing. And another worst part of it is that the light is not powerful.

rationalmind: Just in case it doesn't happen, promise me u'll openly declare your self a false prophet and [size=14pt]also declare the bible false.[/size]

Need I remind you, even if it happens, remember the probability of syria getting destroyed in a period of 150 weeks by mere chance and coincidence isn't so big.

safarigirl: true story

safarigirl: what's hard to beleive there?

safarigirl: I've still never dated anyone, currently in the uni, don't see myself dating anytime soon. I hang with a lot of guys, I don't see the need to be more than friends with them, plus I'm shy anyways.

If it happens, fine, if not, I'm not holding my breath

haibe: How absurd!! So Jesus went to preach to the dead who you believe are in hell?? So if they get converted God will transfer them from hell to heaven?

Even if the spirit here are not demons, they can't be dead humans in hell either.

A better interpretation is this:
The preaching was done "by the Spirit" (verse 18) in Noah's day to people who where then living (verses 19, 20).

The 'spirits in prison' could also refers to people whose lives 'were' in bondage to Satan but definitely not dead people.

haibe: Ans: c, more like demons

Ans: The spirit in man is not a person, simple

haibe: If going to hell or heaven immediately after death was a fact and a serious issue like its preached in our churches today, the dead lazarus would have gone around spreading the new or might have even written his own book like people do nowadays, lol, you know now all those 8 hours in hell books or my stay in heaven.

Also the maid which Jesus raised from the dead, how come she didn't testify of heaven or hell?? Its because she was not there, she was totally unconscious in her death state.

People who are in the state of coma hardly tell anything about hell either, they rather tell you their last memory was perhaps when an accident happened or so, why?? its because they are unconscious during that state.

haibe: That is where your confusion comes from, the word SPIRIT.
To enlighten to you a bit, the Greek word translated spirit is pneuma which means a lot, it could mean breath, air, wind, [size=14pt]a supernatural being,[/size] an intelligent part of a man, a dead man's apparition(Also known as a ghost) etc.

So when Jesus says a spirit does not have flesh and bones,the question is what does Jesus mean by spirit.
The believe of ghosts even though being a mythology has been in existence for a very long time, it is believed among some that when a person dies, he can appear as a disembodied spirit to those who are alive, this believe has been circulated by so many including in our present day and so when a person sees a supposed dead man he is quick to call him a spirit(ghost in this case).

Jesus had been dead for about 3 days and so it is expected that he is to remain in his grave, when the disciples saw Jesus who dies, they supposed they had seen a ghost, yes they supposed it was a Jesus apparition but of course Jesus was no longer dead, he has ressurected and is alive again, so they were wrong. Jesus also proved to them that he wasn't a ghost because it is believed ghosts don't have flesh and bones and he had them.

So yes there are spirit beings, angels and demons are examples but man is totally physical and human, the spirit in man is not a person like angels but an intelligent part capable of connecting us to God.
The word spirit doesn't mean one thing, it means a lot.

haibe: Lazarus didn't see anything when he died, he was simply unconscious, If he was in heaven already, there is no point bringing him back to earth, if he was in hell, no point too

Man is a soul who posesses a spirit, not a spirit person like angels though, the Spirit in man is not immoral, "it" can't exist as a separate entity(person) from its body.

arsenalwenger: John 8:44. Jesus has already summarized their lifestyle by calling them liars. A liar will never be consistent, he will tell you something today and tell you another thing tomorrow. If you catch him he will tell you 'sorry, the light is getting brighter'.

A liar will tell you that christ will come in XYZ year. If XYZ year comes and christ never show up, they will tell you that he has already come, that he came invisibly.

The bible tells me that God is a Spirit (not a force or active force) and anyone that worship Him must worship him in spirit and in truth. A liar will say 'no'.

According to the verse Jesus talking to Elijah and Moses, a liar will say the event never really occured, thats it is a vision.

So you can understand how difficult it is to argue with a liar.