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Christianity EtcRe: Are Born Again Infallable by Emusan(m): 9:25am On Dec 06, 2013
dyfatai: Good day christian Nairalanders.
I am a Muslim. I was discussing with christian recently on d topic of salvation.
The discussion was getting interesting until he made a statement that ''Born agains don't sin''. I opened my mouth and cldnt close it. Of course i didn't agree, maybe its because i dnt av d 'holy spirit' as he put it.
ok

This is d verse d@ best justifies d@ claim.
1 john 3-9 ''Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in Him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God''
Like someone has said "Be ye holy as I am holy" particular this verse is meant for the real born-again not people like me who still praying for the real born-again in which God and I will be commue together.

Is that verse not contradicting dis verse??1 John 1:8-10(KJV)
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
This verse actually meant for every human on earth before being born-again but once you're TRULY born again the above verse is for you

NB:- pls don't be quick to condemn me 4 quoting d Bible, I needed 2 bring d evidence for and against d arguement so d@ i can be best understood.
No condemnitaion in Christ.....


2- if u feel i dnt av d 'holy spirit' to understand d verses or i av quoted dem out of context, that shldn't cause for fight. Just provide d context of d verses and analyse wit d 'holy spirit'.
The rate you people harmering on the word HOLYSPIRIT this day is just to say God have mercy

Now, my question to nairaland christians......
''Do born agains commit sin?''
''How do we categorize dis practices carried out by christians; backbitting, slander, Lust, Envy, pre-marital sex, FORNICATION, Insult/Abuse etc??
Simple they are not TRULY born-again whereas all these are the works of the flesh.

We av 2 be careful how we answer dis questions. Somebody might be quick to conclude that those who practice d aforementioned sins are not really 'born again'. If dis statement is true, d@ means d@ we av less dan 1% born again in the entire world because hardly will we find som1 dat has nt commited one or all of this sins since He/she was baptized.
If they are not truly born-again is not yours to conclude with that percent
@bold-that's why we have an Advocate with the Father the man Christ Jesus 1 John 2:1 for those who can quickly realized their error.

On a final note, im nt here 2 make trouble with u christians, u can check my sinature for confirmation.
And Christians never make a move of making trouble with you either.



Shalom!
SportsRe: Event That Took Place After 8years Of Arsenals Last Trophy by Emusan(m): 8:16am On Dec 06, 2013
Op you forgot the critical part of it.

70-80% Asonna fang have had hypertension shocked shocked shocked
CareerRe: Has NEPA Been Improved In Your Area? by Emusan(m): 8:02am On Dec 06, 2013
Joel Felix: Ever since the privatisation of NEPA, have you noticed any change in your area? Because my own area, the situation has grown worst than it was before so I don't know if some of you are experiencing the same thing. And another worst part of it is that the light is not powerful.
All this NEPA improvement issue, are you not tire of it?

Op if light hasn't been improved in you area, tell your people to declear three days fasting and prayer so that you power line can be connected to a nearest "STREET LIGHT". So this question wont come up again.
Christianity EtcRe: Rivers Turn Blood-red In Lebanon, China & Slovakia by Emusan(m): 4:25pm On Dec 05, 2013
rationalmind: Just in case it doesn't happen, promise me u'll openly declare your self a false prophet and [size=14pt]also declare the bible false.[/size]

Need I remind you, even if it happens, remember the probability of syria getting destroyed in a period of 150 weeks by mere chance and coincidence isn't so big.
@bold
So you mean OBADIAH's word alone can discredit the word of God? hmmmm something like this happened in 1914 by some group. I believe you know them...nevertheless it doesn't move God and change the time The Father has chosen in Himself to end this scenario.

Instead of you to open your Bible and read it yourself.....for better knowledge about end of the world let's see Matt 24:14 which says "And the Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come" KJV

Simple question; as the gospel of Christ be preached in all nations? the answer will insight you more.


Shalom!
RomanceRe: Late Bloomers! How Difficult Was It For You? by Emusan(m): 3:32pm On Dec 05, 2013
safarigirl: true story
Surprise sha!!!
RomanceRe: Late Bloomers! How Difficult Was It For You? by Emusan(m): 11:39am On Dec 05, 2013
safarigirl: what's hard to beleive there?
No boifend nah kiss
RomanceRe: Late Bloomers! How Difficult Was It For You? by Emusan(m): 7:29am On Dec 05, 2013
safarigirl: I've still never dated anyone, currently in the uni, don't see myself dating anytime soon. I hang with a lot of guys, I don't see the need to be more than friends with them, plus I'm shy anyways.

If it happens, fine, if not, I'm not holding my breath
shocked shocked shocked shocked

Adonbilivi dis
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Trinity Biblical? by Emusan(m): 6:57am On Dec 05, 2013
After all, we have been,

Chosen by the Father (Ephesians 1:3-5),

Purchased by the Son (Revelation 5:9),

Sealed by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 4:30),

Blessed God, Three in One.

We say;

Amen, come Lord Jesus!
Christianity EtcRe: A Journey Through The Halls Of Hell by Emusan(m): 3:09pm On Dec 04, 2013
haibe: How absurd!! So Jesus went to preach to the dead who you believe are in hell?? So if they get converted God will transfer them from hell to heaven?
Truly absurd...right?

Even if the spirit here are not demons, they can't be dead humans in hell either.
Are Demons the one that perished in the flood?

A better interpretation is this:
The preaching was done "by the Spirit" (verse 18) in Noah's day to people who where then living (verses 19, 20).
Keep twisting the scriptures....
Whose spirit?

The 'spirits in prison' could also refers to people whose lives 'were' in bondage to Satan but definitely not dead people.
[size=14pt]PERISHED in the FLOOD[/size] is English a difficult language for you or the flood is a continous event?
Christianity EtcRe: A Journey Through The Halls Of Hell by Emusan(m): 2:19pm On Dec 04, 2013
haibe: Ans: c, more like demons
Anyway it shows you don't read your Bible. Check any translation including NWT verse 20 says "The spirit are those who were once disobedient in time of Noah when they perished by the flood"

Ans: The spirit in man is not a person, simple
Then, which spirit did Jesus preach to?
Christianity EtcRe: A Journey Through The Halls Of Hell by Emusan(m): 1:46pm On Dec 04, 2013
haibe: If going to hell or heaven immediately after death was a fact and a serious issue like its preached in our churches today, the dead lazarus would have gone around spreading the new or might have even written his own book like people do nowadays, lol, you know now all those 8 hours in hell books or my stay in heaven.
The question still remain, how did you know that Lazarus didn't see anything?
was Bible written because of Lazarus or everything that happened was recorded in the Bible?

Also the maid which Jesus raised from the dead, how come she didn't testify of heaven or hell?? Its because she was not there, she was totally unconscious in her death state.
Same as above

People who are in the state of coma hardly tell anything about hell either, they rather tell you their last memory was perhaps when an accident happened or so, why?? its because they are unconscious during that state.
False!!! go and read more about NDE
Does state of comma mean absent of LIFE? SMH
State of comma should tell you that "Life" is different from "consciousness"
Christianity EtcRe: A Journey Through The Halls Of Hell by Emusan(m): 1:39pm On Dec 04, 2013
haibe: That is where your confusion comes from, the word SPIRIT.
To enlighten to you a bit, the Greek word translated spirit is pneuma which means a lot, it could mean breath, air, wind, [size=14pt]a supernatural being,[/size] an intelligent part of a man, a dead man's apparition(Also known as a ghost) etc.
@bold-you agree spirit also means a supernatural being....that is good....now when Bible says human being are gods, what make Man to be god?
And does this supernatural being possess human body?


So when Jesus says a spirit does not have flesh and bones,the question is what does Jesus mean by spirit.
The believe of ghosts even though being a mythology has been in existence for a very long time, it is believed among some that when a person dies, he can appear as a disembodied spirit to those who are alive, this believe has been circulated by so many including in our present day and so when a person sees a supposed dead man he is quick to call him a spirit(ghost in this case).
According to you, this supernatural being; do they have flesh and bones?

Jesus had been dead for about 3 days and so it is expected that he is to remain in his grave, when the disciples saw Jesus who dies, they supposed they had seen a ghost, yes they supposed it was a Jesus apparition but of course Jesus was no longer dead, he has ressurected and is alive again, so they were wrong. Jesus also proved to them that he wasn't a ghost because it is believed ghosts don't have flesh and bones and he had them.
Let's say it's a believe.....then who are those spirit in prison that Jesus went and preached to when He died? 1Peter 3:18-19
a)Wind
b)Air
c)supernatural being

So yes there are spirit beings, angels and demons are examples but man is totally physical and human, the spirit in man is not a person like angels but an intelligent part capable of connecting us to God.
The word spirit doesn't mean one thing, it means a lot.
It means alot yet you discard it being "person".....
Christianity EtcRe: A Journey Through The Halls Of Hell by Emusan(m): 9:58am On Dec 04, 2013
haibe: Lazarus didn't see anything when he died, he was simply unconscious, If he was in heaven already, there is no point bringing him back to earth, if he was in hell, no point too
You people have been using this case of Lazarus for many years without asking a right question;
If Lazarus didn't see anything, the question is; Did anybody ask Lazarus about his afterlife experience

Man is a soul who posesses a spirit, not a spirit person like angels though, the Spirit in man is not immoral, "it" can't exist as a separate entity(person) from its body.
Jesus told His desciples touch me and see for a spirit has no flesh & blood" this statement alone should tell you that SPIRIT do exist as a person.
Christianity EtcRe: Are You Immortal? History Speaks Out. by Emusan(m): 8:19am On Dec 04, 2013
arsenalwenger: John 8:44. Jesus has already summarized their lifestyle by calling them liars. A liar will never be consistent, he will tell you something today and tell you another thing tomorrow. If you catch him he will tell you 'sorry, the light is getting brighter'.

A liar will tell you that christ will come in XYZ year. If XYZ year comes and christ never show up, they will tell you that he has already come, that he came invisibly.

The bible tells me that God is a Spirit (not a force or active force) and anyone that worship Him must worship him in spirit and in truth. A liar will say 'no'.

According to the verse Jesus talking to Elijah and Moses, a liar will say the event never really occured, thats it is a vision.

So you can understand how difficult it is to argue with a liar.
My Brother I'm tired ooooo.
WE say Holyspirit is a person they say na lie now we can see a definition which resemble what Holyspirit looks like "God is an invisible SPIRIT person!"
If you ask them what is spirit? They will say something like wind, force e.t.c if you now substitute this in the definition above I wonder how meaningful it would be.

Spirit has been described in the Bible to speakI wonder how inpersonal force can speak.
Christianity EtcRe: Are You Immortal? History Speaks Out. by Emusan(m): 7:38am On Dec 04, 2013
JMAN05: 1. John was stating how he was shown all that by inspiration.
Was John caught up into heaven in spirit or not?

2. Please how did I twist it?
By saying it's not their spirit.


3. what is wrong with spirit before person?
Tautology & Confusion!!!

NWT: 1 Peter 3:18-19 "....,He was put to death in the flesh but [size=14]made alive in the spirit 19 And in this state he went and preached to the spirits in prison,[/size]

Which spirit did Jesus went and preach to and where are the spirit? Remember Jesus was first made ALIVE in the SPIRIT.
Christianity EtcRe: Are You Immortal? History Speaks Out. by Emusan(m): 4:56pm On Dec 03, 2013
arsenalwenger: Human spirit survives after death while the body goes back to soil..
Don't mind them all, they will reject anything relate to SPIRIT because they have made the fisrt mistake by calling Holyspirit an Active force of God. keep watching how they keep twisting the scriptures.

John who wrote the book of revelation was caught in SPIRIT while his body was in isle.

You can see how he twisted the story of Moses & Elijah talking to Jesus.

I'm reading from Jan 1 2014 watchtower back page now. There is sub topic title "What sort of person is God?" The first statement there is "God is an invisible SPIRIT PERSON"

why the word spirit before person?
Christianity EtcRe: 51 Lies Propagated By The Roman Catholic Every Christians Should Know. by Emusan(m): 4:24pm On Dec 03, 2013
lanrexlan: Yes.
Will you stop detailing this thread and allow better people to talk.
Christianity EtcRe: 51 Lies Propagated By The Roman Catholic Every Christians Should Know. by Emusan(m): 4:12pm On Dec 03, 2013
lanrexlan: [size=14pt]O ya,come and ban me.[/size]Prove your worth,Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Al-Anam 6:159 -Verily,those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects),you (O Muhammad SAW) have no concern in them in the least.Their affair is only with Allâh, Who then will tell them what they used to do.
The privilege you and your brethren are enjoying on this section should tell you who is on the Lord side.
Had it been it's your section you will have seen many hidden post/bans yet through this Jesus still gives room for a repentance.

Despite the critics christianity have face over the decades yet the word of God is still stand.

The Father loves the Son and He has committed everything into Son's hand. So Jesus is coming with power and glory to judge everyone as the Father has will.
So continue to fight for religion instead of you to save your soul.


Shalom!
HealthRe: How Often Should You Change Your Tooth Brush? by Emusan(m): 2:08pm On Dec 03, 2013
Use less expensive toothbrush nobody will tell you when to change, it will tell itself at proper time. Best time teller!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Muslims With Christians by Emusan(m): 2:54pm On Nov 28, 2013
macof: Lemme ask u about ur Bible figures
Did Abraham find Yahweh through Jesus?
Did Moses find Yahweh through Jesus?
Did David find God through Jesus?
All these men used their consciousness
The very first point you need to know here is how God begins to walk with man after the FALLING of the first man-Adam.
Before God called Abraham God Himself has this testimony about him(Abraham) "For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, [size=14]and they shall keep the way of the Lord....,[/size] Gen 18:19

Why God call somebody like Noah, Abraham? The answer is, is to fulfilled the promise He made when He curse Devil Gen 3:15.

Both Noah, Abraham, Moses, David were chosen for the promise to be fulfuilled and Moses, David, and past prophets were both foresee the coming of Jesus, His birth, death & resurrection. They all saw the glory of Jesus before they died.

That's why when Jesus died He has to go and preached to those who have died in disobedient starting from the flood of Noah till date for those who didn't know Him 1 Peter 2:18-19
Jesus Himself confirmed that before Abraham exists He Has been in existence.

5. I disagree, how have u known ur purpose through christianity? How has ur destiny been reviled to u? By the holy spirit? Or by consciousness? Do you use Oracles?
Through prayer to God and with the help of the Holy spirit since I have known Him.

7. You deceive urself here, you learn from them but don't believe them because you have found the true God. And wat have they found? False God?
Is believing and learning the same? The question should be what did I learn?

8. That is to say you used your consciousness to seek him but I see delusion because If you say God has revealed himself to you and many Christians because they worship Jesus. Then you indirectly saying non-Christian don't know God.

Many Muslim say God has revealed himself to them as the true God which the Koran has stated.
Now are this people lying?
What I want to make clearer to you for bring out this is that, if Jesus promised all those who believed in Him something and you find out the thing is true...then you should that whatever He says it will surely come to pass.

As for muslim, none of them can claim they have ever feel the presence of God, see vision, or God spoke to them. They only believe Quran is the word of God that you need to follow.

You may say I'm deluded but it's a testimony of myself "God has visited me personally twice in my room" that's I said seek God personally!

Shalom!
Christianity EtcRe: Who Jehovah's Witnesses Say Arc-angel Micheal Is by Emusan(m):
@Hisblud

That @Trogun's statement really got me sad. They're the one Apostel Paul is referring to here Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Yet they failed to look beyond.

This same Jws has propagated before that Jesus deserves to be worshipped, today they have reverted their statement.

My question is, What is the FATE of those who have subscribed to this doctrine before they died and now there's a new doctrine?
Christianity EtcRe: Muslims With Christians by Emusan(m): 6:44pm On Nov 27, 2013
macof: Actually the true light of the world is Obatala, and I mean this very literally
Ok

Yes I support Evolution,.because I have studied the theory and studied my environment and Evolution is very logical.
The reason I referred you to that thread is believing evolution is real I.e human evolved from ape-like creature without any purpose and went ahead to say Obatala is the creator of mankind is illogical.

My spirituality doesn't stop us from thinking and using logic. It doesn't stop us from learning from other people
Yoruba spirituality doesn't directly talk about Evolution but that doesn't mean evolution is not real
Even Bible advised us to ask for wisdom, meaning God doesn't want us to die in ignorance. I love science more than many Athiest on this forum yet I'm still a christian....do you know why? because I have found God beyond written and logic through Jesus Christ. I usually say if not because God manifests Himself to me today I will be one of those attacking any religion too.

You see we humans should learn from each other, Christians don't have all the answers, Islam doesn't have all the answer neither does Ifa Orisha.
100% agree with you
but the word of the creator Himself has done a lot about it.

Yorubas always say something like "Ifa is an unending bowl of knowledge, it takes more than one lifetime to fully understand the universe"
Yeah! But my question is since Eledumare also interact with His creations especially man, why do we carry out unending research by instrument find Him? Why can't we just say ok we only want to know much about our universe but He exists?
Yet when the find out that He exists they deny Him being God...ROM 1:18-20

Do u know why u are alive? I mean why u came to earth? Wat ur destiny is?
Absolutely yes!

Yorubas know this for themselves through Ifa, but Ifa would not do our Job for us.
Likewise in Christendom

I want to develop my soul and go back to Eledumare fulfilled knowing that I won't have to come back to this horrible world.
Wonderful, likewise me too.
But to you what can you say about EViL i mean its origin? And do you mean some people will still come back here after their death and on what point/criteral will they come back?

All the lessons I am to learn in this life would be forever imprinted on my soul.
And I can't learn properly by dwelling on one source, I am pagan but I learn from Islam, Atheism, Science and many other forms of mental and spiritual inclination.
I do the samething but just to have clue not to believe on the because I have found the true God.

So I am not confused to believe in Evolution, I have looked into it and I have seen it's logic. I am not a puppet of Science, I don't even subscribe to Darwin's exact theory of evolution I have mine.
That is good I don't need to discard your notion on this.

I have gone deep in christianity I know a lot of things ur early church fathers have hidden from you. I can't return to christianity NEVER!
If you know me I will say you won't have said this but not withstanding I'm a type who doesn't live a live base on them say them say if not I would've become like you but I took my time and asked myself, am I not being decieved? But I seek God PERSONALLY and God revealed Himself to me.

many of you Christians believe only you know the right way, only you are holy and meant for heaven.
Actually you're right to some extent. I will give my reason below.

I don't think like that
And I don't believe Jesus is anything more than a prophet who taught love and peace.
One thing is this, Jesus said those who believe in Him out of their belly will a river of life flows out(which this signifies the Holyspirit). Now if I have the evidence of Holyspirit today, it means Jesus word is always true. so I believe this is one of the things many have seen to made them claim that your statement above.

Infact I was inspired by your post for the first time and I appreciate that. Kudos!

You can do this little exercise tonight, try to be alone around 10-12am when know one will disturb you and begin to reason many way you've sinned against God with a humble heart then ask for forginess in Jesus name after then ask God to fill you with His Holyspirit and see what will happen. Remember you must pour out your mind in a humble way by realising that you're a sinner.
Christianity EtcRe: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by Emusan(m):
TroGunn: Seems a pretty poinntless thread, not worth the time of any serious JW - dig up 80-years and older views of JWs which they have corrected and do what exactly?
So you believed not recognizing one doctrine from onset signifies a true message from God?

[size=14pt]JW (starting out as Bible Students) never claimed to be infallible - admitted severally to having wrong expectations and understanding before. They was a time they saw nothing wrong in smoking, celebrating birthdays and Christmas. As understanding of the Bible grew, they came to realize these practices and expectations were wrong and they promptly adjusted.[/size]
SHM seriously!
simple questions with an honest answer,
*what is the FATE of those who accept and live their lives according to this doctrine then?
*who now told them to change the teaching?


Really no different from Christ disciples who at one time thought that Christ would establish his kingdom at the time. ( Luke 19:11, Acts 1:6,7). Peter for a while just couldn't grasp why Jesus would have to die (Mark 8:31,32). Eventually he did
Comparing this with what JWs have passed through is a great delusion.
None of the Jesus' desciples fully undestand Him not until Jesus was exalted and the Holyspirit was given.
So it means Russell didn't have Holy spirit before he declared himself as a Jehovah witness.

You can't fault JWs willingness to continue to dig into the bible for better understanding. Like the noble Bereans, "with great eagerness and [they] examine the Scriptures every day", and make adjustments as necessary (Acts 17:11).
What are the adjustments they made in the scriptures after they've studied the teaching personally?

The question is, are you willing (like Christ disciples of old, Bereens, JWs) to adjust your viewpoint based on greater understanding of the scriptures? You should try it - much better than holding on to teachings/traditions of men and being obsessed with what JWs have moved on from.
Yes of course!
The question is, are you still leaving a confuse life like Russell?
Christianity EtcRe: Muslims With Christians by Emusan(m): 3:43pm On Nov 27, 2013
macof: Obatala is the creator of mankind and is credited with many aspects of creation.
This your statement really makes me SHM for you.
You left the true light which is in Christ Jesus entered into a confuse state.

You claim here that Obatala is the creator of mankind yet in one thread where a church to submit apology letter to Dawkins for rejecting evolution....you made it clear that evolution is REAL.
Is this not a total confusion and wrong choice?

Jesus loves you....it's never too late to make a U-turn

Shalom!
Christianity EtcRe: Who Jehovah's Witnesses Say Arc-angel Micheal Is by Emusan(m): 2:11pm On Nov 27, 2013
Kyase: Then who is JESUS before his birth?
The word
Christianity EtcRe: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by Emusan(m): 1:31pm On Nov 27, 2013
Christianity EtcRe: Who Jehovah's Witnesses Say Arc-angel Micheal Is by Emusan(m): 1:29pm On Nov 27, 2013
Yooguyz: In the fifty years between 1880 and
1930 there were five changes as to who Micheal was

1. An Angel that worships Jesus

"Hence it is said, "Let all the angels of God worship
him;" [that must include Michael, the chief angel, hence Michael is
not the Son of God] and the reason is, because He has "by inheritance obtained a more
excellent Name than they.""
Zion's Watch Tower 1879 Nov p.4

2. The Pope and Antichrist hehehe...

"Michael and his angels"--the papacy and its supporters--fought against the dragon--
pagan rulers, etc.,-- and the great dragon was cast out of heaven.
Zion's Watch Tower 1879
December p.6

3. Michael was the pre-human Jesus Christ

"Can it be that he who was called Michael--Jehovah's chief-messenger--was none other than our Lord in his pre-human condition? we conclude that HE
must have been "chief
messenger." " Zion's WatchTower 1883 June p.3

4. The Pope again

"Michael.--- "Who as God," the Pope." The Finished Mystery 1917 p.188

5. Jesus in heaven

Since the 1930's Michael is explained to be the heavenly name for Jesus.

"For many years Jehovah's Witnesses have taught that Michael is a heavenly name for
the only-begotten Son of God,who was named Jesus while on
earth." Watchtower 1984
December 15 p.26

Those group of clowns Governing the Watchtower Society demonstrate that they have no idea as to how
to interpret Revelation.
OP thanks for this beautiful post.
JWs God will forgive you and show you the Light through His Son Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians, come in for a dialogue by Emusan(m): 1:05pm On Nov 27, 2013
slye: if you're going to call a book holy, then it must be free of errors, contradictions and controversies. since holy means its from God and you don't expect God to make mistakes, do you?
If you have been on NL since 2008 yet you can still make this statement then something is wrong somewhere.
For best consience clear since you still have google on your phone, quickly type "contradictions in Bible" I believe over 500 articles that have dealt with it will display.

Shalom!
Christianity EtcRe: @ JMAN05, Please Defend Jehovah's Witnesses Doctrines Here. by Emusan(m): 9:43am On Nov 27, 2013
JMAN05: This will help you. 1 cor. 8:5
Another story, the next verse says and there is only one God. The verse you recommended used "gods" in any versions whrreas in verse 6 they used "God"

Did Thomas call Jesus gods or God?


God's spirit is the same thing as His active force. Active force tells you what the spirit is, not a person but a force.
So you believe God put His active force in Jesus?
if we should insert the word in that Isaiah 42:2.
Now how this inanimate force help Jesus to achived all His mission?
Finally, do you agree that the word "spirit" means only force?
Jobs/VacanciesRe: A Job In Lagos For N55,000 Or A Job In Abuja For N70,000 For A Lagos Resident? by Emusan(m): 7:25am On Nov 27, 2013
safarigirl: does the job in Lagos come with accommodation? Does the job in Abuja come with a car? What is the distance from the house to the office in Abuja? Will there be available water or you'll have to buy water? Bros chill before rushing cuz of the input of a few. Transport and feeding are high in Abuja, you could exhaust 70k in 2 weeks sans rent here.
Do you live in abuja? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Muslims With Christians by Emusan(m): 11:03pm On Nov 26, 2013
Olyboy16: can you please explain what you mean by "it shows in your write up"? Cos i've not criticised xtans in favour of muslims, i only stated our beliefs and facts.
You made this statements;
but the only thing dat makes we muslims different is the fact that we dont think we cant pray to God directly without calling jesus and we dont thank or praise anyother God or prophet or spirit except almighty Allah (S.W) wu created the jinns, prophets(including jesus nd his miracles nd his death nd his destiny), the angels and everything that has a name or not!!
it would've even been better not to talk than this scrap.

again, the question is absurd...and 1 question is, what is the difference between christians and jews?...and i'm not a jew and so i cant speak against or in favour of them as i dont know much about their belief and ways.
Wonderful, you don't know about Jew but your Quran says something about them. Use it as an assignment to gain more knowledge.

you see..this a big blunder on the side of xtians! The quran does not contain stories or citations from men, it contains only the strict instructions and reminders of God's oneness and magnificience.
Clap for yourself,
What about the story of Noah, the suction of Egyptians in the red sea, Jonah in the belly of fish e.t.c? Are they true life stories or fiction which made it a story from men? Of which Quran also narrated these same stories but in another way totally different from the one in the Bible.
Finally, the birth & death our Lord Jesus which has been prophecied many years before it happened was also different. Hmmmmm

again, God has instructed mankind his preffered ways and manners of praise and worship..for conformity of the islamic way to worship, father abraham kneeled with his face on the ground most times in prayer, he made this posture of prayer when he needed dire attention from Almighty God. David worshiped God and God alone, he danced to God alone, prayed to God alone, so also moses, so also abraham, so also jesus(whose parabolic words have been constantly misinterpreted to the favours of xtians), and job and all the prophets before them in the bible; so do you think the one God of then is not the same God of now and the same on the day of judgement? Surely, he neva changes...
You agreed Abraham kneeled down, Moses and others served God alone like Moses and others also shout hallelujah....since what they do is what you're still following and you believe Christian serve the same God, do you also forbid shouting hallelujah in the mosque?
I will ask you again, who is serving another god apart from God Almighty?

terrorists act on their own ignorance and selfish interests and not on the true plight of islam
I can see a great conscience disturbing you. Did I ask you about terrorism?
My simple question is while war? Since God help the Isrealite to conquer thier promise land. Did any prophet i.e Isaiah, Jeremiah, Job, Jonah, Jesus e.t.c preach any war? Why the same God who preached so much love through Jesus Christ now change by preaching Holy war.
Thank God you admit that those past christian were acting according to their own knowledge not what the Bible really teach and none of them derived their inspiration from our Lord Jesus.

so also jesus(whose parabolic words have been constantly misinterpreted to the favours of xtians),
Lemme ship in this, if not that Muhammad lacks scriptures knowledge he wouldn't have composed his book and claimed it's being revealed by God. He said Jesus fulfilled what was written in Torah and prophets, the question I'm beg muslim to answer is this; what are those things written in Torah and prophet that Jesus fulfilled?
Now you said Christian misinterpreted the words of Jesus, do you think what Jesus claim during His time was fabrication? The secret behind it beyond Muhammad himself sorry to say this as an illetrate it really shows in quran. The Birth, Death and Resurrection of Jesus was prophecied from Genesis to Malachi.....can such word be misinterpreted? Answer it yourself!

The taurat was first inscribed on a stone by God himself, but moses(A.S.W.S) broke it and had to rewrite it himself for days without food under God's instructions...so also was the quran revealed to prophet muhammed(S.A.W) and written down as its been revealed...
This shows that you lack historical background, taura or Torah was referring to "the First-Five book of the Bible" written by Moses. It's only the Ten commandments that was inscribed in a stone which is in Exodus. The whole book of Genesis was a revelations. While the other four books contian history as well as God's word.

Who help Muhammad wrote them down, I thought you said he can't read nor write?

I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life know one get to the Father except by me", you do realise this phrase has a lot of meanings and i would not go into this...
Of course it will have different meaning to you but the statement is very.
*Jesus is the only way to heaven in other to be with God
*Jesus is the life everlasting
*Jesus is the true Messiah the Son of God(God reincarnation)


Shalom!

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