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motayoayinde:
STOP YOUR PREACHMENTS AND ANSWER THE QUESTION.

WHAT NAME DO JEWS CALL GOD TODAY?

I answered you, and my question is , was is it Allah ?

Tell me why you think Allah is a Creator ?

ThreadOwner:
Give me your answer

Why making a claim you can't defend ? You claimed allah is a true God and you can't defend his actions .
That is a shame .

I will tell you what my God will do with references . Can you do that ?

ThreadOwner:
If you create an app, and you discover that the app has virus...won't you find a way to remove the virus will you destroy the app?

Why can't your God cleans the mind of those ppl instead of killing and sending them to hell fire!

Before I answer that , what will your God do regarding your question ?

ThreadOwner:
so, he gave order for war bcus of sex a man fvck the opposite gender and he gets angry?

Bullsh*t!

Including sleeping with animals , homosexuality and practising of witchcraft

ThreadOwner:
Whether he believes or not is a que for another day; what he wants you to know is that "your God order the killing of people he created, and he sent them to hell....he doesn't preach forgiveness, reason why the israelites killed in his name" now is that not the trait of a killer; a merciless one for that matter

Don't quote any islamic words to reply, reply me from your bible.

That will be very unfair .
What is good for the goose is good for the gander .

ThreadOwner:
Let's take for example: you create a game and that game is about two friends turned enemy, will you prefer they kill themself or reconcile?

Now, why does God allow the israelites engage in war with other people, why not peace?

This was why :
Leviticus 18:20-29 KJV
Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her. [21] And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord. [22] Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. [23] Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. [24] Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: [25] And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. [26] Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: [27] (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled [28] That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. [29] For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

Because of sins . God is Holy living with holy angels in Holy heaven.
If you want to escape eternal punishment , be holy .

1 Peter 1:15-17 KJV
But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
[16] Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
[17] And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:

motayoayinde:
BE HUMBLE AND STOP WASTING YOUR TIME.
IF THE NAME JEHOVAH WAS GIVEN TO MOSES AS YOU CLAIMED, THE JEWS SHOULD KNOW BETTER.
JEHOVAH IS THE ENGLISH RENDERING OF Y,H,W,H INTRODUCED BY TYNDALE.

BTW, WHAT NAME DO THE JEWS CALL GOD TODAY?

It is still debatable .

But one thing is clear , theses four letter words. (YHWH ) were used to represent the name of the God of the Bible and can never be traced or termed to mean ''Allah'' because non of those letters appear in the name ''Allah'' .

Since their names are different and those letters can only be found in the Bible and as the God that called the prophets of the Bible , it means they are different .
Not only that , Muhammad is the only prophet from another nation .

Don't you think this calls for enquiry ?

Why did Abraham send Ishmael , his first born , away from the promised land ?

Genesis 17:19 KJV
And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.

Jesus said in :

John 4:22-24 KJV
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the JEWS.
[23] But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Muhammad was not from the lineage of Isaac and therefore not a Jew .

Muhammad's revelations were false . Can you believe thus :
Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ نَصْرٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، عَنْ مَعْمَرٍ، عَنْ هَمَّامِ بْنِ مُنَبِّهٍ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏

‏ كَانَتْ بَنُو إِسْرَائِيلَ يَغْتَسِلُونَ عُرَاةً، يَنْظُرُ بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَى بَعْضٍ، وَكَانَ مُوسَى يَغْتَسِلُ وَحْدَهُ، فَقَالُوا وَاللَّهِ مَا يَمْنَعُ مُوسَى أَنْ يَغْتَسِلَ مَعَنَا إِلاَّ أَنَّهُ آدَرُ، فَذَهَبَ مَرَّةً يَغْتَسِلُ، فَوَضَعَ ثَوْبَهُ عَلَى حَجَرٍ، فَفَرَّ الْحَجَرُ بِثَوْبِهِ، فَخَرَجَ مُوسَى فِي إِثْرِهِ يَقُولُ ثَوْبِي يَا حَجَرُ‏.‏ حَتَّى نَظَرَتْ بَنُو إِسْرَائِيلَ إِلَى مُوسَى، فَقَالُوا وَاللَّهِ مَا بِمُوسَى مِنْ بَأْسٍ‏.‏ وَأَخَذَ ثَوْبَهُ، فَطَفِقَ بِالْحَجَرِ ضَرْبًا ‏"

‏‏‏ فَقَالَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ وَاللَّهِ إِنَّهُ لَنَدَبٌ بِالْحَجَرِ سِتَّةٌ أَوْ سَبْعَةٌ ضَرْبًا بِالْحَجَرِ‏‏

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'The (people of) Bani Israel used to take bath naked (all together) looking at each other. The Prophet (ﷺ) Moses used to take a bath alone. They said, 'By Allah! Nothing prevents Moses from taking a bath with us except that he has a scrotal hernia.' So once Moses went out to take a bath and put his clothes over a stone and then that stone ran away with his clothes. Moses followed that stone saying, "My clothes, O stone! My clothes, O stone! till the people of Bani Israel saw him and said, 'By Allah, Moses has got no defect in his body. Moses took his clothes and began to beat the stone." Abu Huraira added, "By Allah! There are still six or seven marks present on the stone from that excessive beating."

Sahih al-Bukhari 278
In-book : Book 5, Hadith 30
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 5, Hadith 277  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

When Aishat was accused of adultery , Muhammad did not know whether it was true or not. Allah could not reveal to him the true situation . He had to send her packing until people intervened in the matter .

He was accused of stolen a clothe from the booty of war and could not tell or identify the thief . Is that a prophet ?

A prophet that could be bewitched . Is that a prophet ?

Where was Allah when all these were happening to him? Couldn't he save his name and proof that he is an all knowing god ?

The stories of the prophets in the Quran were not knew to the Arabs as at then. They also had the copies of the Bible .

Like I keep telling you , you need to pray and don't believe any of the religions until God shows you the truth .

Valkrie:
Oga..what are you saying...? read your bible properly...The majority of the killings in your bible is carried out or ordered by your so called Christian God, so what is this talk of grace...? Is it not the same God that plan to burn people who dont believe in him in hell but choose to pardon killers who suddenly believe in him...? All these God talk nah scam...if you know you know...!!

Do you believe in God or not ?

Let's start from there

[quote author=Valkrie post=97038592]Oga..what are y

ThreadOwner:
But a killer is a killer!! stop with the lies!

A judge is not a killer .

A judge that sentenced an murderer to death is not a murderer .

God is the greater judge which will reward everyone according to his deeds :

Revelation 22:11-13 KJV
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
[12] And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. [13] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

ThreadOwner:
God approves of war between the people he created, what happened to forgiveness?

Your God kills - therefore, he is a killer!!

Yes , but not unjustly.

The difference between the God of the Christian and that of the Muslims is that :

God of the Christian hates the wicked and grants grace for them to repent . If they fail to repent , then judgement.

Ezekiel 18:26-28 KJV
When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die. [
27] Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
[28] Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.


But the god of Islam says you cannot decide to do good or bad because he has fixed or programmed the person to make heaven or hell:

Hadith :


Abdullah (b. Mas'ud) reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) who is the most truthful (of the human beings) and his being truthful (is a fact) said:

Verily your creation is on this wise. The constituents of one of you are collected for forty days in his mother's womb in the form of blood, after which it becomes a clot of blood in another period of forty days. Then it becomes a lump of flesh and forty days later Allah sends His angel to it with instructions concerning four things, so the angel writes down his livelihood, his death, his deeds, his fortune and misfortune. By Him, besides Whom there is no god, that one amongst you acts like the people deserving Paradise until between him and Paradise there remains but the distance of a cubit, when suddenly the writing of destiny overcomes him and he begins to act like the denizens of Hell and thus enters Hell, and another one acts in the way of the denizens of Hell, until there remains between him and Hell a distance of a cubit that the writing of destiny overcomes him and then he begins to act like the people of Paradise and enters Paradise.


Sahih Muslim 2643 a
In-book : Book 46, Hadith 1
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 33, Hadith 6390  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

The wicked will make heaven not because of his good deeds but because Allah programmed it that way , even he had been wicked all the days if his life.
And the righteous will go to hell not because of his wicked deeds but because Allah programmed it that way , even through he had been righteous all his life .

Is the programmer not wicked ?

That is the difference .

Our God did not programme evil with anyone. He Created with the mind to be good and free will to choose between the good and the bad. He would first warn you if the consequences of disobeying His commandments. But would not force you to do evil and then punish you.

ThreadOwner:
God approves of war between the people he created, what happened to forgiveness?

Your God kills - therefore, he is a killer!!

Yes but not unjustly.

ThreadOwner:
enilove , you know much about islam; although you include lies and blasphemious words in your writeup. What joy do you derive when you lie? Why lie that Mohammad is a killer?

Don't quote the korea out of context...!

For your reference :

Hadith :

Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:

When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was distributing something, a man came towards him and bent down on him. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) struck him with a bough and his face was wounded. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said to him: Come and take retaliation. He said: no, I have forgiven, Messenger of Allah!.

Da'if (Al-Albani)

Sunan Abi Dawud 4536
In-book : Book 41, Hadith 43
English translation : Book 40, Hadith 4521
Abu Dawood

THAT IS AN ACT OF WICKEDNESS .

Here , Muhammad attack a whole community who were not ready for battle and did not suspected they were going to be attacked. This us different from wars between nations :

Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ، عَنْ حُمَيْدٍ، عَنْ أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم كَانَ إِذَا غَزَا بِنَا قَوْمًا لَمْ يَكُنْ يَغْزُو بِنَا حَتَّى يُصْبِحَ وَيَنْظُرَ، فَإِنْ سَمِعَ أَذَانًا كَفَّ عَنْهُمْ، وَإِنْ لَمْ يَسْمَعْ أَذَانًا أَغَارَ عَلَيْهِمْ، قَالَ فَخَرَجْنَا إِلَى خَيْبَرَ فَانْتَهَيْنَا إِلَيْهِمْ لَيْلاً، فَلَمَّا أَصْبَحَ وَلَمْ يَسْمَعْ أَذَانًا رَكِبَ وَرَكِبْتُ خَلْفَ أَبِي طَلْحَةَ، وَإِنَّ قَدَمِي لَتَمَسُّ قَدَمَ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم‏.‏ قَالَ فَخَرَجُوا إِلَيْنَا بِمَكَاتِلِهِمْ وَمَسَاحِيهِمْ فَلَمَّا رَأَوُا النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالُوا مُحَمَّدٌ وَاللَّهِ، مُحَمَّدٌ وَالْخَمِيسُ‏.‏ قَالَ فَلَمَّا رَآهُمْ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏

‏ اللَّهُ أَكْبَرُ، اللَّهُ أَكْبَرُ، خَرِبَتْ خَيْبَرُ، إِنَّا إِذَا نَزَلْنَا بِسَاحَةِ قَوْمٍ فَسَاءَ صَبَاحُ الْمُنْذَرِينَ ‏"

‏‏‏

Narrated Humaid:

Anas bin Malik said, "Whenever the Prophet (ﷺ) went out with us to fight (in Allah's cause) against any nation, he never allowed us to attack till morning and he would wait and see: if he heard Adhan he would postpone the attack and if he did not hear Adhan he would attack them." Anas added, "We reached Khaibar at night and in the morning when he did not hear the Adhan for the prayer, he (the Prophet ) rode and I rode behind Abi Talha and my foot was touching that of the Prophet. The inhabitants of Khaibar came out with their baskets and spades and when they saw the Prophet (ﷺ) they shouted 'Muhammad! By Allah, Muhammad and his army.' When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saw them, he said, "Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned."

Sahih al-Bukhari 610
In-book : Book 10, Hadith 8
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 11, Hadith 584  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari


Hadith

أَخْبَرَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بَشَّارٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَمْرُو بْنُ عَاصِمٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عِمْرَانُ أَبُو الْعَوَّامِ الْقَطَّانُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا مَعْمَرٌ، عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، عَنْ أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ، قَالَ لَمَّا تُوُفِّيَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ارْتَدَّتِ الْعَرَبُ قَالَ عُمَرُ يَا أَبَا بَكْرٍ كَيْفَ تُقَاتِلُ الْعَرَبَ فَقَالَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ إِنَّمَا قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ أُمِرْتُ أَنْ أُقَاتِلَ النَّاسَ حَتَّى يَشْهَدُوا أَنْ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ وَأَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَيُقِيمُوا الصَّلاَةَ وَيُؤْتُوا الزَّكَاةَ ‏"

‏ ‏‏ وَاللَّهِ لَوْ مَنَعُونِي عَنَاقًا مِمَّا كَانُوا يُعْطُونَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم لَقَاتَلْتُهُمْ عَلَيْهِ ‏‏ قَالَ عُمَرُ رضى الله عنه فَلَمَّا رَأَيْتُ رَأْىَ أَبِي بَكْرٍ قَدْ شُرِحَ عَلِمْتُ أَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ ‏‏ قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ عِمْرَانُ الْقَطَّانُ لَيْسَ بِالْقَوِيِّ فِي الْحَدِيثِ وَهَذَا الْحَدِيثُ خَطَأٌ وَالَّذِي قَبْلَهُ الصَّوَابُ حَدِيثُ الزُّهْرِيِّ عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُتْبَةَ عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ ‏‏

It was narrated that Anas bin Malik said:

"When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) died, some of the 'Arabs apostatized. 'Umar said: 'O Abu Bakr, how can you fight the 'Arabs? Abu Bakr said: 'The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: I have been commanded to fight the people until they testify that La ilaha illallah (there is none worthy of worship except Allah) and that I am the Messenger of Allah, and establish prayer and pay Zakah?' By Allah, if they withhold from me a small she-goat that they used to give to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) I will fight them for withholding it.' ('Umar siad) 'By Allah, when I realized that (Abu ) Bakr was confident about this idea, then I knew that this was teh truth.'" Abu 'Abdur-Rahman (An-Nasa'i) said: 'Imran Al Qattan is not strong in Hadith, and this narration is a mistake. The one that is before it is the correct narration of Az-Zuhri, from 'Ubaidullah bin 'Abdullah bin 'Utbah, from Abu Hurairah.

Sahih (Darussalam)

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3094
In-book : Book 25, Hadith 10
English translation : Vol. 1, Book 25, Hadith 3096
Sunan an-Nasai

ThreadOwner:
enilove , answer this que and stop spreading lies!

Yes , God kills and He saves.

He is angry with the wicked and gracious to good people

Psalm 7:11 KJV
God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.


God is going to judge the wicked and punish them in hell for eternity , unless they repent.

ThreadOwner:
enilove , you know much about islam; although you include lies and blasphemious words in your writeup. What joy do you derive when you lie? Why lie that Mohammad is a killer?

Don't quote the korea out of context...!

I am not lying . Check for yourself :
Hadith

Narrated `Abdul `Aziz:

Anas said, 'When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there (early in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet (ﷺ) rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet (ﷺ) passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet (ﷺ) . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, 'Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.' He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, 'Muhammad (has come).' (Some of our companions added, "With his army." We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, 'O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.' The Prophet said, 'Go and take any slave girl.' He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and said, 'O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)s! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraidha and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.' So the Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'Bring him along with her.' So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet (ﷺ) saw her, he said to Dihya, 'Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.' Anas added: The Prophet (ﷺ) then manumitted her and married her." Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet (ﷺ) pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet (ﷺ) . So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, 'Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.' He spread out a leather sheet (for the fo...

I don't know why the reference numbers are being cut off .

I will post a shorter one .

ThreadOwner:
I have seen christain visiting alfa's for spiritual guidance and financial prayer. Is it that their God can't answer them?

Allah remains the only true God - deal with that! Know this and know peace!!

It is because they did not know that Islam is false. What miracle did Muhammad do that would make a knowledgeable person to go to Muslims for miracles ?

A true christian does not visit herbalist. The miracles that your Allah cannot do are child's play for our God.

He raised the dead , divided the Red Sea , open the eyes of the blind and created the heavens and the earth.

But your fake prophet came with the name of the god of his ancestors and lied to you muslins that it was that idol that created the heavens and did all the miracles in the Bible.

That is nothing but lies .

The god that had to abrogate his word is a fake God.
Allah SWT said:

مَا نَنْسَخْ مِنْ ءَايَةٍ أَوْ نُنْسِهَا نَأْتِ بِخَيْرٍ مِّنْهَآ أَوْ مِثْلِهَآ ۗ أَلَمْ تَعْلَمْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَىْءٍ قَدِيرٌ
"We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?"
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 106)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

When Muhammad was caught in his lies , he came up with the lies that God caused him to forget and to bring forth a better verse .

Does that sound like real to you ?

To show signs and wonders like other prophets of the Bible , he could not . He therefore resorted to killings and enforcement .

ThreadOwner:
All what you wrote are being practiced by the catholics and other christains body.

You guys make Jesus's statue out of clay nd wood, and pray to him - is that not idol worshipping?

You guys ask Mary to answer your prayers - is she god?

You guys go to mountain and pick the stones; calling it "holy stone" - is that normal?

You guys create altar and say it's God's place of abode. You guys stage fake miracles and speak fake testimonies.....isn't that a sin?

Your pastors own big houses and expensive fleet of cars and private jets, whereas the members can't boast of 3-square meal - is that not yahoo?

Those that do that are idolaters as well . But did our God and Bible tells us to do that ? No.

I am condemning Islam because it is written in you books to do things which are satanic .

It is not written in the Bible that we Christians should do those nonsense you quoted above.God did not instruct us to do such things and that makes anyone doing such , sinner before God.

The fact that you can identify a fake product doesn't make all others products fake .
The original is out there.

But Islam from its origin is idolatry and of the devil.

ThreadOwner:
I have seen christain visiting alfa's for spiritual guidance and financial prayer. Is it that their God can't answer them?

Allah remains the only true God - deal with that! Know this and know peace!!

True God that loves the rituals of idolaters :

Hadith



وَقَالَ ابْنُ وَهْبٍ أَخْبَرَنَا عَمْرٌو، عَنْ بُكَيْرِ بْنِ الأَشَجِّ، أَنَّ كُرَيْبًا، مَوْلَى ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ حَدَّثَهُ أَنَّ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ ـ رضى الله عنهما ـ قَالَ لَيْسَ السَّعْىُ بِبَطْنِ الْوَادِي بَيْنَ الصَّفَا وَالْمَرْوَةِ سُنَّةً، إِنَّمَا كَانَ أَهْلُ الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ يَسْعَوْنَهَا وَيَقُولُونَ لاَ نُجِيزُ الْبَطْحَاءَ إِلاَّ شَدًّا



Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:

To run along the valley between two green pillars of Safa and Marwa (mountains) was not Sunna, but the people in the pre-islamic period of ignorance used to run along it, and used to say: "We do not cross this rain stream except running strongly. "

Sahih al-Bukhari 3847
In-book : Book 63, Hadith 73
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 5, Book 58, Hadith 186  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

Allah is a true idol . That is 100% correct to say .

ThreadOwner:
I have seen christain visiting alfa's for spiritual guidance and financial prayer. Is it that their God can't answer them?

Allah remains the only true God - deal with that! Know this and know peace!!

How is Allah a true God ?

How can a true God be living in a cubicle house( kaabah ) and you call that a God.

You people are stone worshippers . You are all pagans in disguise .

How can a true worshipper of God be kissing a black stone ?
Was that not the deeds of the idolaters b4 the advent of Muhammad ?

You are being deceived by a fake prophet .

Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي مَرْيَمَ، أَخْبَرَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي زَيْدُ بْنُ أَسْلَمَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، أَنَّ عُمَرَ بْنَ الْخَطَّابِ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ قَالَ لِلرُّكْنِ أَمَا وَاللَّهِ إِنِّي لأَعْلَمُ أَنَّكَ حَجَرٌ لاَ تَضُرُّ وَلاَ تَنْفَعُ، وَلَوْلاَ أَنِّي رَأَيْتُ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم اسْتَلَمَكَ مَا اسْتَلَمْتُكَ‏.‏ فَاسْتَلَمَهُ، ثُمَّ قَالَ فَمَا لَنَا وَلِلرَّمَلِ إِنَّمَا كُنَّا رَاءَيْنَا بِهِ الْمُشْرِكِينَ، وَقَدْ أَهْلَكَهُمُ اللَّهُ‏.‏ ثُمَّ قَالَ شَىْءٌ صَنَعَهُ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَلاَ نُحِبُّ أَنْ نَتْرُكَهُ‏.‏



Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said:

"`Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, 'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (ﷺ) touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' `Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet (ﷺ) did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'


Sahih al-Bukhari 1605
In-book : Book 25, Hadith 91
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 2, Book 26, Hadith 675  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

motayoayinde:
SO AFTER BEING TRASHED ON THE THREAD HE OPENED ON PROSTITUTION, enilost RAN HERE TO START ANOTHER DEBATE HE'S NOT CAPABLE OF?

IN THE OTHER THREAD HE EXPOSED HIS STARK IGNORANCE BY CLAIMING GOD GAVE MOSES THE NAME "JEHOVAH".

ANYWAY, HERE'S WHAT I TOLD HIM:

JEHOVAH IS A NAME GIVEN TO MOSES?

LET ME LECTURE YOU FREE OF CHARGE ON THIS.

THE ONE TRUE GOD HAS ALWAYS HAD A NAME AMONG DIFFERENT PEOPLES.

HE HAD A NAME AMONG JEWS FROM THE BEGINNING.
OUT OF REVERENCE FOR HIM, THE JEWS RARELY CALLED HIM BY THIS NAME.

OVER MANY YEARS IN THEIR TURBULENT HISTORY, (wars and displacement), THIS NAME WAS LOST.
WHAT WAS LEFT IN THEIR SCRIPTURES WERE THE 4 CONSONANT LETTERS MAKING UP THE NAME.
THE VOWELS WERE LOST FOREVER.

THESE FOUR LETTERS ARE: Y, H, W, H
THEY ARE TOGETHER REFERRED TO AS THE "TETRAGRAMMATON".

MANY HAVE TRIED TO MAKE OUT THE REAL PRONUNCIATION OF THE NAME BY ADDING WHAT THEY THINK ARE THE ACCOMPANYING VOWELS, BRINGING UP NAMES LIKE "YAHWEH".

WHEN WILLIAM TYNDALE MADE THE KING JAMES VERSION OF THE BIBLE, HE CAME UP WITH HIS OWN VERSION, "JEHOVAH".

THUS BECOMING THE FIRST PERSON TO USE THIS NAME AND TO INTRODUCE IT INTO CHRISTIANDOM IN THE 17TH CENTURY.

TILL THIS MOMENT, THERE'S A DISPUTE AMONG CHRISTIANS WITH THE USE OF THE NAME JEHOVAH. WHILE SOME PREFER YAHWEH, OTHERS CALL HIM BY OTHER NAMES.
ARAB CHRISTIAN PREFER TO CALL HIM ALLAH LIKE THE MUSLIMS.

IF THIS FELLOW IS THIS IGNORANT ABOUT THE GOD HE CLAIMS (falsely) TO SERVE, IT'S CLEAR HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH.

You did not trash anyone , you just showed your lack of knowledge of the Bible and Islam.

I have replied you , go there and check.

You Muslims are chronic liars like your Muhammad . I told you that I was going to open another thread yesterday so as not to dreail the thread , since you went off topic.

Allah SWT said:

وَإِذَا بَدَّلْنَآ ءَايَةً مَّكَانَ ءَايَةٍ ۙ وَاللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا يُنَزِّلُ قَالُوٓا إِنَّمَآ أَنْتَ مُفْتَرٍ ۚ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ
"And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]. But most of them do not know."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 101)


Now that you are here , make your contributions and let's see if you can trash any christian .

Remember , even Muhammad's knowledge was nothing compared to the Christians as at then , talkless of yours .

Allah SWT said:

فَإِنْ كُنْتَ فِى شَكٍّ مِّمَّآ أَنْزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ فَسْئَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتٰبَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ ۚ لَقَدْ جَآءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِنْ رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ
"So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters."
(QS. Yunus 10: Verse 94)

Toktee:
Common Google you no fit visit, i am sure you don't even read that confused book called Quran..



Aisha was married at the age of six but stay behind with her parents until she turned nine before she was handed over to Mohammed that finally tore her open.


una no d read na only wetin una hear from mosque una the take act.


His first wife was far older than him but as a gold digger he married khadijat who was twice his age.

He was a gold digger indeed . That was the reason he could not try to marry any woman aside from her until her death . He could not dare it .
But after her death , the revelation for more wives started coming .

motayoayinde:
THIS ONE ISN'T JUST A PAID GOON, HE'S ALSO AN IGNORANT GOON.

JEHOVAH IS A NAME GIVEN TO MOSES?

LET ME LECTURE YOU FREE OF CHARGE ON THIS.

THE ONE TRUE GOD HAS ALWAYS HAD A NAME AMONG DIFFERENT PEOPLES.

HE HAD A NAME AMONG JEWS FROM THE BEGINNING.
OUT OF REVERENCE FOR HIM, THE JEWS RARELY CALLED HIM BY THIS NAME.

OVER MANY YEARS IN THEIR TURBULENT HISTORY, (wars and displacement), THIS NAME WAS LOST.
WHAT WAS LEFT IN THEIR SCRIPTURES WERE THE 4 CONSONANT LETTERS MAKING UP THE NAME.
THE VOWELS WERE LOST FOREVER.

THESE FOUR LETTERS ARE: Y, H, W, H
THEY ARE TOGETHER REFERRED TO AS THE "TETRAGRAMMATON".

MANY HAVE TRIED TO MAKE OUT THE REAL PRONUNCIATION OF THE NAME BY ADDING WHAT THEY THINK ARE THE ACCOMPANYING VOWELS, BRINGING UP NAMES LIKE "YAHWEH".

WHEN WILLIAM TYNDALE MADE THE KING JAMES VERSION OF THE BIBLE, HE CAME UP WITH HIS OWN VERSION, "JEHOVAH".

THUS BECOMING THE FIRST PERSON TO USE THIS NAME AND TO INTRODUCE IT INTO CHRISTIANDOM IN THE 17TH CENTURY.

TILL THIS MOMENT, THERE'S A DISPUTE AMONG CHRISTIANS WITH THE USE OF THE NAME JEHOVAH. WHILE SOME PREFER YAHWEH, OTHERS CALL HIM BY OTHER NAMES.
ARAB CHRISTIAN PREFER TO CALL HIM ALLAH LIKE THE MUSLIMS.

BUT A GOON HERE SAYS THEY'RE ALL WRONG BECAUSE OF HIS STARK IGNORANCE.

Did you not see or read what I posted .
I will post it again for you :

Exodus 6:3 KJV
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them.

Because nations of the world have been calling God by different names makes that to become His name , isn't it ?
You can see you reasoning is very shallow .

The Yoruba call God '' Eledumare '' ''Olorun'' , ''Olugbala'' , ''Oluwa etc . 'Does that make it His name. In hebrew the word ''El '' means God but not a name .These are mere titles .It is not a Proper name like ''Ayo '' , but a common noun .
God has a heavenly name which no man knew of , until He told Moses .

For example :

Revelation 3:12 KJV
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the NAME of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my NEW NAME.

Are humans in the position to give God a name?

You also claimed the name of God got lost over the years . Just like I said b4 , you don't reason deep at all . How can the name of GOD ALMIGHTY be lost . This is a name that appears more than 5000 times in the Bible .
The names of Prophets like Moses , Elijah , Elisha , David etc did not get lost .

Why would the most Sacred and Highest name be lost ? All they needed to do was to WRITE IT DOWN. But they did not because God warned them not to call His name anyhow :

Exodus 20:7 KJV
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Because the Arabs prefer to call God 'Allah ' means that is now His proper name?

Remember that Abraham had sent Ishmael (Arabs)away from the Land of Canaan more than 500 years b4 God called Moses and told him His name .
What name were they calling God then when His name was not even known to Abraham ?

No body can know the name of God unless God reveals it to him. God is a title and not a proper name.

The Arabs named an idol ''Allat '' and you don't think they were the ones that named that god in the kaabah ''Allah ''. Why are the two names so closely related. Rasheed and Rasheedat . masculine and feminine ,that is all.

Like I told you before , the god Allah is an idol living in the kaabah .

The ancestors of Muhammad were not worshipping God . They were pagans. Most people name their children after the god they worship . For example the name of the father of Muhammad was Abdullah .

You can see that all the things the idolaters were doing are still what the Muslims are doing.
They tawaf the kaabah and also Safah and Marwa , just like the idolaters. They maintain the black stone and kiss or point at it when circumambulating the kaabah. These were pagan rituals but now Muslim rituals.

The symbols of the half moon and star is pure idolatry.

Just think and pray b4 it gets too late for you.


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AntiChristian:
Who created the devil?
Did God knew before He created him that he'll be evil?
If He knew then why did He created the devil?
If He doesn't know them He's not God.

God did not create the devil . God created Lucifer .
Lucifer was created like other angels . He became the devil the moment he started having the imaginations to be like God.

God created him to do good and to serve Him . He was not created for evil .

God knows it is possible for being or creature to be disobey , that is why he reserve for the disobedient punishments & death.

But your own god does not have clue about what God is .

Your own god is wicked and evil by creating humans and angels to be burnt in hell fire for no just cause :

Hadith

Narrated `Abdullah:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), the true and truly inspired said, "(as regards your creation), every one of you is collected in the womb of his mother for the first forty days, and then he becomes a clot for another forty days, and then a piece of flesh for another forty days. Then Allah sends an angel to write four items: He writes his deeds, time of his death, means of his livelihood, and whether he will be wretched or blessed (in religion). Then the soul is breathed into his body. So a man may do deeds characteristic of the people of the (Hell) Fire, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses, and so he starts doing deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise and enters Paradise. Similarly, a person may do deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses, and he starts doing deeds of the people of the (Hell) Fire and enters the (Hell) Fire."

Sahih al-Bukhari 3332
In-book : Book 60, Hadith 7
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 549  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

Who is to be blamed above , the humans that started good and ended doing evil OR the god that PROGRAMMED his life that way ?

Why should such person suffer in hell ?

This shows that Allah is evil and not the Creator Almighty.

AntiChristian:
Another lie again!

The Bible as we have it today from Genesis to revelations didn't exist before the Qu'ran.

And no one can prove the Bible was preserved textually from corruption. The Qu'ran has been learned by heart from the time of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa salam.

Can you mention the timeline of the Bible, how and who wrote it? Who copied what? In what language? In what country?

Even the number of Bible books varries from 66 to 73.

Which Bible existed b4 Quran ? Can you show us ?

Can you show me how the old Bible got vanished without any trace of a single one that can be used by you Muslims as evidence .

QURAN IS THE ORIGINAL FAKE BOOK CALLING THE ORIGINAL FAKE .

WHY WAS QURAN OF MUHAMMAD BURNT :


Hadith

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to `Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to `Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Qur'an) as Jews and the Christians did before." So `Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to `Uthman. `Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, `Abdullah bin AzZubair, Sa`id bin Al-As and `AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. `Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, `Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. `Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt.


Sahih al-Bukhari 4987
In-book : Book 66, Hadith 9
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 6, Book 61, Hadith 510  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

They burnt the book of Allah to his the contradictions and the lies .
Despite that we still have about 30 different qurans with different interpretation all over the world .

IMAliyu:
Fair enough.

However, you have to consider the Muslim argument.

Muhammad was illiterate, how could he copy the Bible?
The Qur'an was Allah's direct words to him and not a result of him copying from previous books.
And with that we at least know where it comes from. And would trust it more.

Who were the writers of the Bible, what do we know about them?

The Arabs and Muhammad had copies of the Bible with them.
There were many Christians in Medina and in Mecca who knew about the Christianity and Judaisms .

This is an evidence to reveal how they copied he copied the Bible ::
Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو مَعْمَرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَارِثِ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ قَالَ كَانَ رَجُلٌ نَصْرَانِيًّا فَأَسْلَمَ وَقَرَأَ الْبَقَرَةَ وَآلَ عِمْرَانَ، فَكَانَ يَكْتُبُ لِلنَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم، فَعَادَ نَصْرَانِيًّا فَكَانَ يَقُولُ مَا يَدْرِي مُحَمَّدٌ إِلاَّ مَا كَتَبْتُ لَهُ، فَأَمَاتَهُ اللَّهُ فَدَفَنُوهُ، فَأَصْبَحَ وَقَدْ لَفَظَتْهُ الأَرْضُ فَقَالُوا هَذَا فِعْلُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَأَصْحَابِهِ، لَمَّا هَرَبَ مِنْهُمْ نَبَشُوا عَنْ صَاحِبِنَا‏.‏ فَأَلْقُوهُ فَحَفَرُوا لَهُ فَأَعْمَقُوا، فَأَصْبَحَ وَقَدْ لَفَظَتْهُ الأَرْضُ، فَقَالُوا هَذَا فِعْلُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَأَصْحَابِهِ نَبَشُوا عَنْ صَاحِبِنَا لَمَّا هَرَبَ مِنْهُمْ‏.‏ فَأَلْقَوْهُ فَحَفَرُوا لَهُ، وَأَعْمَقُوا لَهُ فِي الأَرْضِ مَا اسْتَطَاعُوا، فَأَصْبَحَ قَدْ لَفَظَتْهُ الأَرْضُ، فَعَلِمُوا أَنَّهُ لَيْسَ مِنَ النَّاسِ فَأَلْقَوْهُ‏.‏

Narrated Anas:

There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-`Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him." Then Allah caused him to die, and the people buried him, but in the morning they saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is the act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and took his body out of it because he had run away from them." They again dug the grave deeply for him, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is an act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and threw his body outside it, for he had run away from them." They dug the grave for him as deep as they could, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. ......

Sahih al-Bukhari 3617
In-book : Book 61, Hadith 124
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 4, Book 56, Hadith 814  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

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Hadith

Narrated Ibn `Umar:

When the Muslims arrived at Medina, they used to assemble for the prayer, and used to guess the time for it. During those days, the practice of Adhan for the prayers had not been introduced yet. Once they discussed this problem regarding the call for prayer. Some people suggested the use of a bell like the Christians, others proposed a trumpet like the horn used by the Jews, but `Umar was the first to suggest that a man should call (the people) for the prayer; so Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ordered Bilal to get up and pronounce the Adhan for prayers.

Sahih al-Bukhari 604
In-book : Book 10, Hadith 2
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 11, Hadith 578  (deprecated)
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IMAliyu:
Fair enough.

However, you have to consider the Muslim argument.

Muhammad was illiterate, how could he copy the Bible?
The Qur'an was Allah's direct words to him and not a result of him copying from previous books.
And with that we at least know where it comes from. And would trust it more.

Who were the writers of the Bible, what do we know about them?

Quran was not God's words but that of Muhammad who founded Islam.

His revelations were for his conveniences in order to carryout his missions .
He just Google revelations to suit himself .

For an example : THIS WAS A REAL EVENT WHICH MUHAMMAD CONVERTED TO REVELATIONS FROM ALLAH :

Hadith

Anas b. Malik (Allah be pleased with him) reported:

When Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) married Zainab bint jahsh, he invited people (to the wedding feast) and they ate food. They then sat there and entered into conversation. He (the Holy Prophet) made a stir as if he was preparing to stand up, but (the persons busy in talking) did not stand up. When he (the Holy Prophet) saw it, he stood up and when he did so, some other persons stood up. 'Asim and Abd al-A'la in their narrations made this addition: Three (persons) sat there, and Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) came there to enter (the apartment) but he found the people sitting there. Then they stood up and went away. He said: Then I came and informed Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) that they had gone away. He (the Holy Prophet) then came there until he entered (the apartment). I also went and was about to enter, when he hung a curtain between me and him (and it was on this occasion that) Allah, the Exalted and Majestic, revealed this verse:" O you who believe, enter not the houses of the Prophet unless permission is given to you for a meal, not waiting for its cooking being finished to the (words)" Surely this is serious in the sight of Allah" (33:53).

Sahih Muslim 1428 e
In-book : Book 16, Hadith 108
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 8, Hadith 3333  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

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Allah SWT said:

"O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab 33: Verse 53)

How does this revelation help the lives of other Muslims coming after them ? Are his wives still living now ?

FirstSon01:
This is a nice thread.
I like religious people who like to research
Lemme chip in a little

The old and new testaments are two different books.
The laws in the old are very scary and serious unlike the new testament.

Not undermining the fact that the Bible was compiled by the British who just added and removed what they liked.

You are welcome

IMAliyu:
I disagree.
The differences between Christianity and Judaism go deeper than that.

Waiting for the Messiah is just one of them.

Orthodox Judaism rejects the Trinity.

Circumcision is mandatory in Judaism.

And doctrines on the subject of the afterlife differ as well.
Such as eternal punishment being non-existent in Judaism.

This is part of Judaism concerning eternal punishment :

Psalm 9:17 KJV
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Psalm 86:13 KJV
For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.

Proverbs 15:24 KJV
The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

They believe in eternal punishment in hell .

IMAliyu:
A question for the regular Muslims in the house with better insight.

However the parameter for determining which parts are corrupted for a Muslim is a simple matter of does it align or contradict with the Qur'an.

They can do that .It is like placing the cat b4 the horse.

The Bible is the benchmark to verify the truth.
You know the original always comes b4 the fakes start showing up.

The some of the scriptures had been existing more than 1,700 years b4 quran.

Which do you think would copy the other ?

tatatar:
Do the Jews whose bible you use believe God has a son? You don't worship the same God either

Whether they believed or not , it is written in their books by their fathers who believed .

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

The Jews are still expecting a messiah or the Christ as revealed by the Bible .
Why hasn't he come ?

Most of then believed in the time of Jesus , but for selfish gains , their rulers suppressed them from following the truth :

John 11:39-48 KJV
Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days.
[40] Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
[41] Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.
[42] And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. [43] And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.
[44] And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.
[45] Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him.
[46] But some of them went their ways to the Pharisees, and told them what things Jesus had done.
[47] Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
[48] If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.

Jashub:
True. But let me hear what our muslim counterparts will say

They are always afraid of the truth ,more especially when they can sense failure .

AntiChristian:
No, it shouldn't be that way!

You should bring the ages of marriage specified by Yahweh for males and females.

God does not need to specify any age .

We know from common sense that a girl without breast and who has not started menstruating is not fit for marriage .