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Kobojunkie:
Please use your brain! That an article was written does not mean the article is correct. The same applies to most of the teachings and doctrines out there, many of them in complete contradiction to what Jesus taught and lived.

Did you know that Jesus told His followers never to consider themselves TEACHERS or RABBIS? Yes, that is one of the commandments of the New Covenant. They are there to preach the good news of the Kingdom of God - essentially tell people of the New Covenant, Jesus Christ. And under circumstances are they to TEACH anything, so they do not by doing so create doctrines, rules, and traditions, which again Jesus warned leads only to rendering our worship/service of God meaningless

Eventually, you have to make up your mind about who to trust in all of this. Jesus Christ, the very embodiment of the Covenant that God promised His people? Or ordinary men and women who claim to know God but speak words and teach in contradiction to the very word of Jesus Christ Himself.

One thing about a book, any book, the Bible included, is that to understand what is written, you have to read in context and also be sure you have a good grasp of the language in which the text is written

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U have not said anything here. U only want to digress to other things. Let's be focus.

Kobojunkie:
Did you ever notice that He did not give sinners the same treatment He gave the Pharisees? The Pharisees were the Rabbis/ Teachers of the Law/a.k.a Pastors/Preachers/Prophets of the Old Covenant during Jesus's time and Jesus never approached them in the same way He approached mere sinners. He didn't rebuke sinners or castigate them in any way. But He did that to the Pharisees, men who believed they were "men of God."

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A whole article have been written for people with ur kind reasoning here: https://biblicaltruthresources./2015/09/25/jesus-only-rebuked-the-pharisees-not-sinners-is-a-lie-jesse-morrell/
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My job is not to PULL anyone, but to tell everyone who Jesus is -- about His good news (the new covenant) and His Kingdom. The pulling I leave to the Spirit of God since it is His job after all.

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Jude 1:23: but others save with fear, PULLING them out of the fire, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.
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* Satan has nothing to do with the intentions of man. The wickedness that comes out of each man comes directly from the hearts of the men in question. God, Himself says that evil/wickedness sits in the heart of man. It's all man, and so Satan has no need for men as evangelists.
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U don't even get me at all. Satan's children are his evangelists. Those who promote Satan's ideologies are his evangelists. 'Satan's evangelists' is a word coined by me.


[quote]* To those who are in Christ Jesus, it is better to obey Jesus's Christ's commandments every way than to engage in a war that has nothing to do with what Jesus Christ wants us to do.

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Really?
2 Cor 10:5: We destroy every proud obstacle that keeps people from knowing God. We capture their rebellious thoughts and teach them to obey Christ.
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So, no one who lives in obedience to Christ can pollute the mind of another.

I did not even oppose this view.
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* We each give an account for the words we have spoken, not for the words others have spoken.

Did I oppose this one? What I an saying is that, people who cracked dirty jokes and sing dirty songs will pollute not only themselves, but some others that are listening. And God will hold them accountable for misleading others.

The building remains just a building. It is not transformed by the presence of Children of God, in much the same way that a Prison is not transformed into a Church by the presence of Children of God in some of its cells.

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Another misunderstanding when I clearly said: "The church of God are godly humans".
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God has no issue with our dressing, you know that, right?


God created Adam and Eve, naked, and God said it was good. He watched Adam and Eve run about stark naked in His garden for a time. When God saw that Adam, and Eve, had become suddenly ashamed of the good thing that He, God, had created, God, out of pity, made clothing to cover their shame (not God's shame).

You need to understand that what others choose to wear is none of your business, and God has made no man police over others.

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Really really? Seems like u like it when u see girls in mini skirt and bum shorts. Does God like it when women dress like prostitutes to entice men? I don't know the God u serve. But my God will not tolerate sin.
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What we put on does not matter, u said. But the bible recorded how priests shud dress. Apostle Paul wrote about women dressing modestly and David, in Psalm, described a woman who dressed " like a prostitute".

Jesus showed us this in his treatment of sinners. He mingled with them, drank and partied with them -- He never policed them.
We ought to live as He, Jesus Christ did, not as our depraved minds would rather we do, imposing our myopic and immature views on others, claiming we do so in the name of God.

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Do u know about Christian discipline? Handing an unrepentant sinner over to Satan? It means excommunication from the church. If a smoker is warned not to smoke inside the church and he refuse, what shud be done to him?
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Ur mind may be depraved, your views myopic and immature. But not my own. It is now clear that u are out to promote false teachings in Christianity. Only those who don't read and study their Bible will fall victim. Twisting the word of God to promote immorality will bring down God's anger on you. Repent and give your life to Christ before it is too late.

saliubello:
N95,000 for 1000meters

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paulolee:
going by things we do see today..e no easy oo

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If u can control what u watch and hear, it starts becoming easier. Repent and allow Christ to change ur mindset. Start hating sin.

seyi360:
Furthermore, a Pastor should avoid visiting a sister without a witness

All phone calls and messages to women should be made by a fellow woman

All counselling sessions with women should be in the company of another woman , better still handled by a woman leader.

In case of any scandal, the Pastor should immediately clear the air with an official statement.

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Good points.

Kobojunkie:
You also remember where the crime was committed? I believe the reason for Christ's reaction had more to do with the location of the act than the act itself.

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Bro, even if the act was committed outside the temple, Jesus, his disciples and every sane Christian will speak up against evil. When Jesus rebuked the pharisees etc, his did that outside the temple also. One of ur job as a christian is to go outside and pull sinners to Christ. If u see evil, no matter where, preach against it whenever u can.
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When people gather and start their dirty discussions, u will notice that some of them do the main talking while others listen. Those are Satan's evangelist. Will u allow them to keep on poisoning people's mind? Speak up. There is power in spoken word. That is why Christ said that we'll all give account of every single word we said. I keep warning people: dirty songs and jokes will land u in hell. U can't pollute other people's minds and expect God to accept u in his kingdom.

Kobojunkie:
You forget that the temple in question, the only house of God that existed even at that time has been destroyed and there is no longer a "holy" place on the planet. And God made no request to have any other temple built in His name. Jesus never instructed His disciples to build structures to His honor either, and there is no record of the apostles or the early Christians doing any such thing.
Your church buildings today are simply buildings/structures built by the hands of men and to the specifications of men and nothing more. They have nothing to do with God at all. Buildings build for the intentions of men are great places for all sorts to congregate.

If you say so!

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U are right, they are just buildings. But so long as godly people congregate there, it becomes a church. The church of God are godly humans and all sort of people shud not be allowed to congregate there. There are ladies that will dress half naked to church and lure others to sin. Just as smokers and drinkers are not allowed to smoke and drink in the church, half naked women shud not be allowed in the church. "a little yeast will cause the whole bread to rise". The reason why many sins exist in the church today is because they were not stopped when it was still little.

Kobojunkie:
Have you any information(Bible references for instance )to prove any of the assertions you make above about sinners not comitting their sins in front of Jesus Christ, while He mingled with them?

You missed when I wrote "If any of these had happened in Jesus's presence, he would have preached to them. I don't see that in many Christians today". Of course, some sins were committed in front of Christ. Like the money exchangers in the temple. And u remembered how Christ handled them. Try that today and hypocrite Christians will come for u with passages like " Christ came for sinners", why chase them away? Who are u to judge? The church is for sinners etc. The church is not meant for sinners that have baptised and Christianize their sins. Sins like immodesty, celebrity worship, dirty jokes etc.
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Kobojunkie:
As to preaching to those caught in the act of sinning, well, I suggest you take from Jesus' example where even He chose not to condemn the sinner for her sins in the example below.

Jesus was well aware that the woman in question was condemned by the Law of Moses to die at the hands of those men, but did He condemn her by those same laws? No, He told her He did not.

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Don't confuse preaching and condemning. When u tell someone to repent, u are trying to save him. It is not condemning. The bible is full with "repent from this and that". What did Jesus finally told the woman? "Go and sin no more". That is preaching.

Kobojunkie:
Do you know that when Jesus was here on earth, the same problems existed, but you never read of Him isolating Himself from the world around Him? No, He mingled - ate and drank with the sinners of His time. This was His home while He lived. If the one you call your saviour had no problem living here, why do you?

Yea, he wined and dinned with sinners. But they did not sin in the presence of Jesus. They did not dress half naked for Jesus. They did not sing dirty songs and cracked dirty jokes for Jesus. They did not party sinfully for Jesus. What I see today are hypocrite Christians that will enjoy sinners' company. If any of these had happened in Jesus's presence, he would have preached to them. I don't see that in many Christians today.

Kobojunkie:
Now, as concerns the problem of temptation to commit sexual sins, Jesus commands that each person look inwards for the problem, and not outwards - resist the temptation to blame others for your weaknesses. The one's we call the world,the sinners, are not to blame for our individual weaknesses. If you doubt it, read what Jesus Christ said.

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If I sin, I blame myself. That is what responsibility is all about. But to say that the tempter is not to be blamed is not entirely true. Because God will blame both the sinner and the tempter. If u lead people to sin, u are a sinner. LUKE 17:1 - New Living Translation
"One day Jesus said to his disciples, “There will always be temptations to sin, but what sorrow awaits the person who does the tempting!" If u dress half naked and people sin by lusting after u, God will judge you. You won't go free. If u create lust in the hearts of people with songs and jokes, God will punish u. Both you (the tempter) and the sinner will be punished.

Kobojunkie:
When a man looks and lusts after a woman, it is not the woman's fault that the man is tempted but the man who is weak in his body -- his body is the one to be punished. Leave the woman alone for she has nothing to do with your weakness.

If the woman in question was not behaving like a prostitute, then she is free. But if she was, God will punish both the luster and the woman. Luke 17:1 applies here.

Kobojunkie:
If you are tempted when sinners discuss and promote s*x in your presence, remove yourself from their presence. If you don't like the songs they sing or you feel the jokes are too filthy or raunchy for your mind, remove yourself from there and go where you don't have to listen to all that. The problem, according to Jesus Christ, isn't those who you think but you -- you are the author of your own temptation and you nee to deal with the reasons for why you are tempted by such things.

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When sinners promote sexual immorality with there jokes and songs, it doesn't tempt me. Rather, it fills me with anger. Rather that remove myself from there, I preach to them. That's a better way to deal with it. 2 Core 10:5 - "We tear down arguments and every presumption set up against the knowledge of God; and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."

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Kobojunkie:
But again, Jesus repeats Himself in Matthew 18, thing time in reference to all sins. You are not to judge the people but judge yourself in this. Again, you see Him laying the blame on the one who is tempted and not the one we always like to assume the tempter. For this reason when I see "Christians" accuse Satan or the devil for their sins, I wonder if they even know that Jesus never blamed the devil but the one who is being tempted.

God also did say the heart of man is extremely wicked. He ain't pinning man's sins on Satan or the devil. So why do we?

One is right to conclude that the genesis of all temptation stems from the wickedness stored up in the heart of the one who is tempted -- has nothing to do with the one who is seen as the tempter.

U quoted a passage and misinterpreted it. Read from other translation if u find this one confusing. God blames both the sinner and the tempter. But the sinner shud just blame himself and repent.

DonBabaNG:
That's the problem with Nairaland email. For some reasons I can't see them. But you can send to my email arinzeesomnofu@gmail.com

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OK.

TheSourcerer:
so this rape was for a reason? Wow

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I'm not God. Only God knows if she was Christian. But in case u don't know, Christians have been persecuted in ways more terrifying than this one. And all the while, God allowed it to happen. Every Christian will be purified thru fire.

Kobojunkie:
Done!
Lot, Job included, did not have what we have today... the Peace of Christ

Jesus Himself partied - drank and ate among sinners. When he was confronted with the case of the woman caught in the act of adultery, do you remember what Jesus said?

We live in a world of sin. We are not of the world, it does not mean we should be uncomfortable with life in this world. We are not judges of those who are of the world, nor are we called to condemn those who are in the world.
The more open-minded we are(child-like), the more useful for the work of God we become.

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I don't think u get what I mean. Will u be comfortable when sinners discuss and promote s*x in ur presence? When they sing songs and crack jokes that a filthy? If the world is not my home, why shud I feel comfortable in it?

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Talking about judging and condemning, I condemn no one. I only judge between what is right and what is wrong. We have the right to judge what people do, but not the right to judge people. I will explain more later.

How much is spray tubes

DonBabaNG:
i appreciate brotherly. Although i have a question or two. dont know if you can help reach me on whatsapp on 08031391676

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What an old post u dug out. I sent u mail.

Kobojunkie:
Those who are born again need not worry about sin, for their primary focus is on staying led by the Spirit of God in all things.

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Pls go back and read my updated reply.

Kobojunkie:
Why do I have to worry about same-sex marriage or any of the sins committed by those who are not of Christ? Did Christ say we ought to worry ourselves about such things?
Well, I live in that world outside the church and I have experienced some of the greatest of kindness at the hands of those who don't even believe there is a God. Yes, some of the best people I have ever met have been people who do not care about the things of God and are focused on helping and being the best they can be to their fellow man. Some of the worst people I have ever met have been people who have one foot in the church of men.
I have seen how people who are inside your churches live and I know there is a terrible curse on those who live as hypocrites in the name of God. I think I am better off taking my chances with those who are outside.

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Of I were u, I'll focus on Christ. Don't allow bad Christians to land u in hell.
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If u are a child of God, whatever worries God will worry u. Sin will worry u. When Lot saw the sins of Sodom he was worried and distressed. Apostle Peter said: Yes, Lot was a righteous man who was tormented in his soul by the wickedness he saw and heard day after day. 2 Pet 2:8.
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No righteous man ever feel comfortable in the presence of sin, be it dirty jokes and songs, seductive behaviors, immodest etc. Whenever u are with people of the world, tell them the truth about sin let's see how much u'll enjoy their company.

TheSourcerer:
yep it's either God or buhari and Buhari does not claim to be ominipresnt

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So long as Satan and disobedience to God exist, things like this will happen. But if u make God ur number one, he won't let such happen to u. This does not mean that bad things can't happen to a Christian. God allows it for a reason if it does happen.

Kobojunkie:
Nigeria is the most religious nation on the planet. So indoctrinated in their ways are the minds therr that they believe it their duty to also shove tge same mess that is their belief into their offspring

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Do u prefer countries that see nothing wrong with same sex marriage? Nigeria is not the best though. Because what we have are mainly fake religious people. U need to see how they live outside the church, and even in the church.

sunshineV:
Incase u can't read epistle what the OP said is

We wouldn't believe in Christ and all the stories in the Bible because they don't make sense like jesus walking on water, Samson tore the mouth of lion with his bare hands, a small piece of stone killed Goliath, Moses parted the sea with his rod, Elijah flew to heaven etc because we have a fully developed brain and we can tell lies from truth but as a kid we can't, we just digest all the lies as it is and it become a part of us. Take for example


How do we know our parents are our true parents? Because we are told so. Because we grew up with them. Because we grew up to know them as our mama and Dada.... Same thing will happen if we were truly adopted.


My point is, all the Bible is us just a story book filled with stories for kids that why an adult won't believe such stories.

Thank you

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The gospel sound foolish to those that are perishing. But to those that are being saved, it is a good smelling fragrance. If u misunderstand any portion of the bible, google it and u will get the answer. Don't let ignorance rob your salvation.

A supposed pastor condemned evil and come back to apologise. Then he made this statement:
jI apologise and put it on record that this experience has thought me that words that speak any form of divisive conversation amongst our people MUST be checked. This is a time for unity, love and unwavering support for each other.

This might be a prerequisite for fighting the gospel in Igbo land. Who knows. Jesus said:

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.

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This is bad! How I wish I can lay my hands on those criminals. May God judge them.

TheSourcerer:
Imagine and I'm sure she must have called the name of God multiple times with faith beyond measure but still the deed was done , hope the perpetrators get arrested soon , who am I kidding , are autopsies on raped dead victims even carried out?




You still be thinking you are special o and God will come to your aid when you need him because you are special or because you dey read Bible.

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U want to use this opportunity to blame God?

okoroemeka:
the special fungicides mix is not for public consumption,the formula is a secret mix of fungicides and insecticides that farmers around mambilla uses to cure and clear pepper diseases,WhatsApp me ,it's strictly on a need to know basis.

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Ok.

okoroemeka:
first I can identify 2 very common pepper diseases already by looking at the pictures,the black coloration on the stem,stalk and leaf margin is classic anthracnose,it also causes fruit to have soft watery spots and spoils easily,the other disease is bacterial leaf spot also easily identified by the yellow spots on the leafs,I have been hit so hard with diseases in vegetables farming that the first mandate in starting any new farm is disease prevention,I don't know the type of seed or variety planted,but all I know is that the farm is doomed,the infection percentage has passed the tipping point and no amount of ordinary fungicides will turn it around, only a special mixture of fungicides and a certain insecticide can salvage the farm,the best defense against problems like this is first good quality seeds,weekly or biweekly application of
special fungicides,aviod entering or touching crops in the morning or when wet.

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Pls can u list some of the special fungicides u use?
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I have been hit by the bacteria leaf spot at seedling stage. But with the coming of dry season, it cleared off. If not, it would have been very bad. But I did applied fungicides - mancozeb, hexaconazole, burgundy' mixture and saaf.

okoroemeka:
sprinkler irrigation is the worst thing for a vegetable farm except maybe ugwu,we tried raingun and hurriedly packed it away,the fastest way to ring dinner bell for foliar disease on cucumbers,pepper,etc is constant wetness of leafs,the best form of irrigation for crops like that is drip or hand watering targeted at the stem,also that seed extraction technique,do you know that 60-70% of pepper disease also infect the fruits and subsequently the seeds,if you extract seeds from a hybrid crop,an old farm that has a 100% chance of been left to diseases that seedling is already doomed before starting,almost all common pepper diseases and viral infections are all found in the seeds from antracnose, bacterial leaf spot to viral mosaic disease(leaf curling),so the best defense against disease starts from the seeds and extracting seeds without proper checks is simply not a good idea,the small advantage in reducing cost will be wiped off by high application of fungicides and subsequent loss to high disease pressure,pls be guided.

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Thanks for the info. But I have a different view wrt sprinklers. From my experience, if u irrigate in the morning or afternoon, u won't have to worry about foliar diseases. The plants have to be well spaced too. Even without sprinklers, early morning dews sometimes settle on leaves.

When seeds are extracted that way, further treatment will solve all disease problem. One such treatment is the hot water seed treatment for peppers. It requires precise temperature control and timing, so I don't know if many farmers can do it. Another option (I'm not so sure), is soaking the seed in a fungicide solution for some hours. But for me, I just like to hand-extract the seeds and sun dry. But even with this method, further treatment is still recommended.

That reminds me. U once complained about rain gun causing erosion in ur farm. I think I know what caused it. If u still have the raingun, unscrew the mouth and look inside. There is a plastic that is normally inside the outlet pipe and it is responsible for breaking up the water into rainlike droplets. Note, I'm not talking about that arm the slaps the water. if the plastic is not there, u will always have erosion problem.

Donbabaj:
You know at times you just want to please these ladies at times and give them attention. But not with my faith.

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Hear from God b4 u venture! A lady who want kisses b4 marriage is not a christian oo. Don't build ur marriage on the wrong foundation.

YorubaLord:
But, why trying to be an Apostle Paul when you can be your own self?

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No one said u shudnt be urself. But u need role models to make u better.

Dubem50:
PEPPER SEEDS EXTRACTION HACK
As soon as mama agreed to lease her ugu farm, I ordered some pepper fruits from a long time farmer friend who has also been in the Pepper production game. This guy spends no dime on hybrid cultivars but has been recycling his seeds from his harvest with consistent high yield and zero crop failure. And this is how I extracted the seeds with zero stress, no pepper burn ( the first batch I did with my neighbor was a horrible experience as we both had our palms on fire for five hours even with our gloves on) and high viability and purity.
1. I poured the whole pepper fruits in a plastic basin or any container and mashed properly/light pounded with an empty vodka bottle without damaging the pepper seeds.
The reason for this is to infect or introduce microbes to the pulp to help us break it down via partial fermentation (as this pulp plays a key role of preventing seed germination inside plant pod) and also help separate seeds from the pepper core( where they are tightly held together)
2. Pour some water ( it should be tepid water, ie, not hot not cold, just normal.) Into the basin, cover it up and keep in a room temperature for between 12 to 24 hours.
This creates good breeding condition for the microbes that breaks down the fruit pulp.
3. After 12 or 24 hours, put on a thick rubber glove, like the one u saw me wear on the pic first mash or squeeze the pepper with your hands ( protected with rubber gloves to avoid pepper burn) and with the aid of a sieve, continuously but gently scoop out the Pepper flesh and skin. Also sieve out any seeds that float because 98% of these floating seeds are not mature and hence ,not viable. But care must be taken not to agitate the seeds that are below as they are the real deal
4. Gently tilt and drain out the water in the basin and boom, the treasure would be staring right in ur. Eyes.
5. Pour clean water to rinse the seeds ,then tilt the basin to drain out the water completely while u use your sieve to collect your seeds.
5 sundry the seeds under the sun till it's properly dried, then go and start your nursery with it
6. If it is for storage, continue to dry under partial shade for some days before storing them.

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Thanks bro. I have always used my bare hand to extract pepper seeds. I don't even feel the burn on my hands. Except I somehow touch other parts of my body.

Chinatown1759:
Please how do you manage whitefly on your farm

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fertilize well with manure. Not necessarily too much but apply every week or two. Also spray insecticides like imidacloprid, Abamectin, emmamectin benzoate etc. If they proof too stubborn, spray under the leaves. Overhead irrigation (eg sprinklers) or rain also help in reducing their number. Clear surrounding bush....

liab:
Some people said its too late to plant egunsi dis may in d southwest pls I need answer from experienced farmers

Cc; jethro2
Ogbogenet
Farmtech
Pavore
Okoroemeka
Etc

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Does it like rain? I thought it is normally planted few months to dry season.

Dubem50:
Brothers, that was how a business partnership was done. And d birth of a new pepper planting era
I have instructed my staff to use a mixture of paraforce and glyphosphate to weed the farm while we start our nursery for transplanting.

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I appreciate ur contribution. But give us summary, straight to the point. Tnks.

frankedoka:
House, is it good to use rain gun irrigation sprinkler to water a pepper farm right from transplant to maturity?

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Yes it is. but try to make ur ridges to have a flat top, not a sloppy one. So that water can soak deep into the soil instead of running off into the furrow. Also, when u side dress with manure, water will not wash them down into the furrow.
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It is best to allow rain to irrigate ur farm when they have not mature. Pepper start fruiting at 3 months or so. Can u imagine what irrigation will cost u?

Ceap:
Please where can I get plots to lease for planting vegies in Anambra...or anyone needs a partner to work with

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Where is ur location.

okoroemeka:
yes,better manure fertilization, we will not joke with manure application on our next site

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Do u still have Cameron pepper?