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agaugust: Shekau is dead. Djotodia is alive. Jump into the ocean if that huts you

Bwahahahahahahaha!!! How sure are you? Shekau is still alive. South Africas mission in CAR was not to fight rebels or stabilise peace in the country but the mission was to train CAR government forces which we also trained in South Africa, Bloemfontein. Peace enforcement missions is not something that SA can decide on its own, since such can only be decided by UN.

NaijaPikinGidi: Better put: For FighterPilot it is not easy arguing foolishly with a Nigerian that knows how to confront blockhead South Africans with snippets of facts that expose the falsehood they try to feed readers on this thread! I repeat ... There is no such thing in your South Africa as a gateway for Nigeria's NIGCOMSAT Satellites! You have failed to debunk my position so far, and of course everybody has seen the truth!

From gateways to servers you knocked yourself out so badly. See you awake in 2014. but choose a better frequency!

It is really not easy to argue with a r.etard 419 scammer.

rka1: Shekau is dead. Let's see the video and you will find either an imposter, or a voiceover with old footage of him. The claims also make me laugh reading the articles

Chief! If the military itself does not have confidence enough to confirm it, who are you to stand and claim something you are not sure about. Remember, the US always assumed that Bin Laden was dead until new information came about.

Having watched the news today, i have seen that Nigerian military is really unsure if Shekau is really dead. Nobody can ever claim confidently that shekau is dead after having appeared on the video again on christmas day.

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/111612-boko-haram-leader-claims-dec-20-attacks-on-nigeria-barracks

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php/news/national-news/141903-i-m-alive-says-boko-haram-leader-abubakar-shekau

rka1: Let me remind you, you ran from SELEKA rebels and didn't even look back after one engagement, can't tackle poachers, riding on the back of UN forces in DR. You make me laugh, who's pathetic now.

By the way ignorant one, that is an old picture of a burnt building not barracks and no military wives or children were killed. See what I mean by posting rubbish from unknown sources.

Bwahahahaha!!! What is the nationality of those pilots who are flying those Rooivalks which are killing rebels left, right and center? SA is at the forefront of peace enforcement at the DRC.

agaugust: Can you know see where you are careless ? my comment said that station is MAINLY i did not say ONLY, but i said MAINLY for astronomy and much less for satellite telecoms use, and your post of today proves me right....

you listed items 1 to 4, and 1 to 3 are functions are astronomy, while only while number 4 is satellite use and even the satellite use is less of telecoms, its still mostly and largely geodesy, do you know what geodesy is ? it is the science of land surveying that uses satellite GPS to delineate lands into locations, plots, etc for the work of professional land suveyors...i have friends who have demonstrated the use of geodesy for me to know the survey coordinates of the land i am buying.

dont mix oil and water dude, or else your car engine will knock !!!!!

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I told you that telecommunications is something else. There is a huge diffence between communications and telecomms. Communication is very broad and telecomms is just only a branch of study under the greater communication as an umbrella.We are using cables for telecomms which runs from the earth and under the sea. No wonder their network can just be turned on and off from one area to another. Unfortunately, up to so far we have never had any telecomms which deals specifically with satellite cellphones other than the one we normally know. Now recently many companies which provides satellite internet other than that of a broadband were established and are currently doing business in SA.

agaugust: ...and so what ?

that source and photo you posted is of a site used mostly for telescopic 'stargazing' astronomy.

so you dont know the difference between an observatory watching stars in the galaxy, and receiving satellite telecommunication signals on a fully dedicated satellite earth station ?

better ask the south african star gazing station to help you check your personal star if it will shine in future, because from the way you reason and think, i am not very sure it would sparkle or glitter

read this.... http://allafrica.com/stories/200805070189.html

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Can you see now where you are going wrong, you really do not read my links fully and start to judge prematurely. Hartbeesthoek is a combination of Radio telescope and satellite servers. I have been there myself during the days when we had a school tour.

Research Instrumentation at HartRAO

HartRAO operates:
1-26m radio telescope for astronomy and geodesy
2-15m radio telescope for astronomy and geodesy
3-Satellite Laser Ranger (SLR) for geodesy
4-Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS) receivers for GPS, GLONASS and Galileo, at HartRAO and at other locations, for geodesy.

The hartbeesthoek in Krugersdorp, Gauteng.

http://www.hartrao.ac.za/summary/sumeng.html

NaijaPikinGidi: And this is your best shot at an answer? Only a blockhead of a fool sees an opportunity to show competence and skips/the opportunity for apparent lack of knowledge on the subject matter! You have done nothing to prove your dubious claim. Copying and pasting an article dated 2007 outlining a proposed and unverified plan cannot amount to proof that the plan was implemented based on that report. Pasting links of diagrams of beams of NIGCOMSAT's KU Band makes no sense especially from someone who has no clue what the diagrams mean.

Food for thought: any country can host a Satellite gateway/ground control station, hence there is nothing special about SA for you to make your crazy claims. You in deed should be ashamed that your SA has now become so critically dependent on our Satellites in orbit to help bridge the yawning gaps in your communications and broadcasting requirements. And for our Satellite services your SA pays us top dollars to receive comms relays on specific KU Band microwave frequencies!

You have still proved nothing. Carry on with your falsehood at your own peril. QED.

Indeed, it is not easy to argue with a lunatic. By the way, i hope everybody has seen the truth.

NaijaPikinGidi: You remain a fool so far! Scrambling about to make sense of your stupidity? I asked a simple question: explain what a satellite gateway is; thereafter please tell us where it is sited or located in your South Africa? I know where I am taking you and your stupidity to!

I am happy that you are now forced to seek help from Google. I will take you on shortly on those NIGCOMSAT KU Band diagrams when you eventually answer my questions.

I hope this is the last time i will engage in this argument. I have done all I could to prove to you that one of your satellite servers are located in SA.

Satellite gateways are ground stations from which satellites access their network. Without SA gateway, Nigcomsat-1R will be partially out of order.

South Africa has two Satellite servers, one in Gauteng and the other in Northern Cape.

agaugust: none of us is a satellite technology engineer.

my question to you is, what is the importance or non-importance of locating a nigerian satellite gateway or beam or submarine cable in south africa ?

the other gateways are according to your source, located in nigeria, italy, and china....so that k.ills your argument that only south africa can be a gateway in africa because american NASA built an observatory or server base or whatever base there, nigeria too has a gateway in africa !

we could have put whatever we put in south africa in zimbabwe, nigeria has the money to buy anything you have in south africa and put it wherever we want....FACT !!!


now i read a lot today about this satellite gateway thing and i discovered it just helps the local area where it is located to have better telecommunications reception and services, it has NOTHING to do with image/photo taking earth observation satellites....


http://www.newtec.eu/article/article/the-future-of-high-throughput-satellites-for-service-providers


so mister, if you shut down the south african gateway of a nigerian satellite (if at all it exists there), we will not feel the effect anywhere else, because you would have foolishly blacked-out your own south african nation from our favour of extending satellite services to you because the all-powerful control room is in nigeria and china, NOT south africa.

a satellite gateway is just like an electricity transformer on your street, that transformer does not control the electric supply source for all houses that exist, it only controls the few houses close to it in your local area, the real controller of electric power is the central control room located in another place and protected by the company that produces the electricity as a source for all consumers.

its like shutting down an electricity transformer on your street, who goes into darkeness ? you and your close neighbours of course

so you can go ahead and shut down anything that looks like a 'gateway' of a nigerian satellite in south africa tonight, and i assure you that your country will go into panic because you get cut off from the services nigeria has been kind enough to provide for you with naija's satellites.

you will surely have a very merry messy christmas after you have shot yourself in the foot... mister gateway

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St.upidity of the highest order.

NaijaPikinGidi: Gentlemen of this thread, please watch as the following points show the stupidity and dullness in this 33% brain:

1:: Article cited is a 2007 report by the writer!
2:: As of 2007 the proposal or plan was to operate four gateways for a certain range in our ground control plan.
3:: Satellite was due for full use at the end of 2007.

If in year 2013 this silly FighterPilot lad will hold tight to this stale and outdated material without presenting a source that validates the 2007 article, I feel so sorry for his competence in the SANDF. A valid source would be one that mentions that the proposed gateway has been implemented. A valid source would be one that mentions the location and nature of the so called gateway you are referring to in South Africa.

Or else where did you get the notion of your imaginary servers? They only exist in your empty blockhead.

We are in 2013 and I can tell you that not even a doorway exists in your SA for our NIGCOMSAT.

So much for your source! Anuohia! Ode!

It is only a fool who can argue with this.

http://www.satlaunch.net/2011/09/nigcomsat-1r-coverages-footprints.html?m=1

http://www.satbeams.com/satellites?norad=38014

NaijaPikinGidi: What sources? Please provide your sources so we can clearly be proven wrong! No long stories ... just copy and paste ... Interesting how you keep growing your stupidity to new levels.

http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2007/05/nigeria-nigcomsat-gateway-to-digitalising-africa/

Here below is the quote from the above source:

The satellite has four gateways to be located in South Africa , China, Italy and Northern Nigeria. The satellite will change positions in orbit until it is finally fixed at a longitude of 42 degrees east. It is expected to be put into use by Nigeria before the end of the year and has a lifespan of 15 years. It will be monitored and tracked by a ground station to be built in Abuja

NaijaPikinGidi: Sources? I've seen not one source from you! You remain desperately delusional ... and I feel so sorry for you!

Why cant you be a proud man and read the sources i have quoted, or should i repeat them. You must stop taking too much of a palm wine, young man. Even an illiterate tapper will see all the links i have provided.

agaugust: listen up dude, we dont find any proof that says south africa currently hosts any gateway fro nigerian satellites, all sources are old and from several years ago, all say one of the four gateways is 'said to be' NOT 'confirmed to be' located there, what if that changed eventually when the satellites were finally launched ?

no source tells us what really and truly happened about the gateway's locations.

the only one satellite that could be involved or not, is our telecommunications satellite NIGCOMSAT, not our earth observation satellites.

i dont trust you south africans because all of you including your leaders are a bunch of liars who will tell a white man that only south african blacks have ever seen a computer, that the rest of africa still live on tree tops like Tarzan of the jungle.

i pitch my tent with @NaijapikinGidi until you can 100% credibly prove him wrong.

meanwhile, current sources confirm that the control rooms for the nigerian satellites are located in nigeria and china, so south africa has NO control whatsoever, we can only be using you as a bus stop or stepping stone....keep on depending on us for your satellite solutions and services, nigeria is your saviour. thank you sir.

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I gave you all the sources necessary, then it proves to me that you deliberately chose to ignore them and instead hid your head on the heap of ignorance. So what will be the use of trying to make sense in a lunatic.

NaijaPikinGidi: Servers! Servers!! And servers ... You are such a clueless lad and I feel so sorry for your future! What else will you come up with to give false credence to your wish? Servers in deed!

You such a fool, rather argue with the following article below which clearly states that one of your satellites gateway is located in SA.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/history-as-nigeria-finally-launches-two-satellites/96588

NaijaPikinGidi: Gateways! It shows you do not know what it's all about. The purpose of my question continues to be lost on you. DStv satellite must be in orbit in your brain!

Eish!! You are such one crazy b.astard.

NaijaPikinGidi: I am saying again for your education ... NO such gateway exists in your fantasyland. Indeed, you wasted time copying and pasting a link that is empty in details or facts to buttress your dubious wish! Keep wishing ... you are a waste of your own time!

Then that is your problem, live with your ignorance. Our servers house many satellites from all over the world.

agaugust: you mean inflating number of casualties like this...

south african army....15 dead
seleka rebels............1,000 dead and more still dying



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Nope, something like this.

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71654?oid=368674&sn=Detail&pid=71616

Cabling and satellites are two different things. There are cellphones which we normally use that are using cabling network and there are satellite phones. Now recently satellite internet was introduced which you receive directly from satellites and is totally different from ADSL, GPRS, 3G, LTE, etc.

NaijaPikinGidi: You are such a nitwit. What servers? Are you out of your mind? You are yet to answer my question to you since your porous brain is littered like trash all over the thread! Don't confuse a submarine fibre optic cable landing point/gateway (basically for high speed digital telecoms) with a satellite gateway. They are not the same!

Keep showing your stupidity. You are simply South African by nature!

I am not talking about cabling. I am talking about satellites. It is you who is bringing submarine cables here, which is something totally different from satellites. It seems as if you were really not following my sources/links, but instead you deliberately chose to ignore them. The only satellite servers, not submarine cable or whatsoever, were built by NASA in SA for the whole of Africa. Satellite servers are not found in every country, irrespective of how developed a country is, there are many of which have no satellite servers/gateway. SA has got such which is also providing Nigcomsat and many more of other countries with network. You cannot come to Africa without that gateway. Google maps, GPS/Navigator will explain that better to you.

NaijaPikinGidi: THERE IS NO SUCH NIGERIAN NIGCOMSAT SAATELLITE GATEWAY in South Africa! (In capital letters)

Then, you are suffering from a serious Nigerian yellow fever. I mean even after I wasted my time to attach links to prove it to you. Your satellite servers are located in SA, China, France and your receiver in N,Nigeria. Dont waste my time.

rka1: Our Cameroonian friends again.

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=189413

70 killed in troops, Boko Haram clashes in Nigeria: military

Dec 24,2013


LAGOS, Dec. 23 (Xinhua) -- The Nigerian defense authority on Monday said more than 70 people have been killed in clashes between the army and members of the Boko Haram militant group in the northeast, following last Friday pre-dawn attacks on a military barracks in Bama town.

"Over 50 of them (Boko Haram) died in the course of exchange of fire with ground troops in the ongoing operations to apprehend fleeing terrorists," Major General Chris Olukolade, the defense director of information, said in a statement obtained by Xinhua

He said the military also lost 15 soldiers mostly from the attack while some died during the pursuit, adding that a total of five civilians also died during the attack.

According to Olukolade, the military operations led to the destruction of over 20 vehicles conveying escaping militants.
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He added that the vehicles were the ones used during the attack on the barracks and were sighted through air surveillance as the militants were making efforts to cross the borders back to their haven in Cameroon.
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Last Friday, the military said Bama barracks was attacked by militants who came from cells located across Nigerian Border with Cameroon through Banki town, adding that high caliber weapons such as anti-aircraft and rocket propelled guns were freely used in the attack that lasted several hours.

Bama town, about 65 km from Maiduguri, the Borno State capital, had suffered numerous attacks from Boko Haram insurgents, forcing some residents to flee.

Many residents were killed in May when suspected militants raided Bama Town, killing mostly children and women.

Violence has intensified in northeastern Nigeria since President Goodluck Jonathan ordered his security forces in May to crush Boko Haram's four-year-old rebellion.

The Nigerian forces have been raiding militant camps and launching air and ground attacks on suspected hideouts of the militants over the past two months.

Borno State, located in Nigeria's northeast region, is a flashpoint of attacks perpetrated by Boko Haram since 2009, when the sect launched its insurgency targeting churches, security facilities, schools and villages.

This strategy of inflating number of casualties with regard to insurgents will really not work.

Borno residence are asking the president to relocate to Maiduguri. This comes after soldiers were attacked and killed including having their wives and kids kidnapped by insurgents.

http://dailypost.com.ng/2013/12/23/boko-haram-borno-residents-ask-jonathan-relocate-maiduguri/

Henry120: Lawd!!!!! My belle oh....... Now, this is damn too funny. @Agaugust must be jailed for making such a Rib cracking joke.

Surely, i guess he has also told you how he was beaten bitterly today. I have discovered your fellow countryman knows nothing about many stuff. He relies more on internet for information.

Z3tdee: Hey Boony.
Who said south africa doesn't have an informal sector? Of coz it's smaller than naai-geria's because of the large formal market. What does unimployment (which is 24%) have to do with the informal sector?

That man is smoking from the pipe. I was actually refering to hundreds of CC's and Pty Ltd's which were established as a result of BEE. Those are ofcourse, not informal sector since those companies are registered and pay tax wherever is possible.

sambos994: Na both

May the grace of Amadioha be with you.

agaugust: which one is malfunctioning, your laptop or your brain ?

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It seems as if you have now been cornered and hardly have anything to argue about. Sorry!!! May Amadioha help you.

scipher: everything... now i understand why August recommended you go back to school

Lol!! Now tell me did i say anything about unemployment or do you want to change the subject and engage in completely new argument. I am tired of deviating from the focus of this thread.

sambos994: Chai!! See dis foolish boy, he no get sense at all ooo! Have you ever passed comprehension skills in school?

It seems as if is you Nigerians who have a comprehension problems. Now, since you are more clever, tell me how does 7.8% became an average of 8.5%?

scipher: do you know what 'informal sector' mean ? dude unemployment rate in SA is over 25%

What does that have to do with unemployment?

agaugust: your source says 'working on it'.

give us proof that your navy has finished working on it. simple !

Yes, in 2012 but the cameras were already built. They have also since supplied us with similar cameras.