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Skepticus:
I was about to say this too.

Mannazgee, women are highly incapable of loving and expected to be loved back. Irrespective of whatever bullshît, the popular media and girls love to say, their attraction to men is conditional.

Only men are capable of showing love.

As for attractive women being cold to love, they are only keeping their options open trying to pick the best mate to fuel their vanity. It's called Hypergamy.

Fisher007

Hypergamy is the order of the day.

Now let me burst your head. Firstly a woman's love is conditional, provisional and transactional. The more young guys understand this the less heart break they will get.

Now, Older experienced pretty ladies from age 25-35 upwards can never lover you. They have seen it all. They are alpha widows. They have dated guys way far above your level or paygrades. Especially the pretty ones, do you know how men flatter then with gifts , phones , money all in the hope of getting into their panties from an early age ( some as far as age 16 yrs).

For instance alpha guys that understands her love is transactional, they will pay her tickets, trips etc. To anywhere because they know it is a transaction. In her mind at that age she is catching feeling and thinking they are making her feel special. They will eventually get the only thing she can offer them ( pvssy). They will use her then stylishly push her back to the road. And this will continue for her on a long run because she will keep changing and branching from one man to another. Instead of her to work on her life and financial freedom. She will keep getting used up and down.

After all that alpha experience from age 18-25 with different men do you think a pretty lady can really love you. She will just use you as a retirement plan. You will take her at the end of her peak years with lot of emotional truama and baggages from the old relationship. You will be her Adam after several time spent with the serpent.

Wish the OP luck in finding love from an Old experienced pretty lady.

Skmoda360:
na true talk sha but I'm not single yet

You don't really need to be single to practice aloneness. You just don't prioritize somebody else over yourself. That is the key.

For instance you need to learn to make money, apart from office work. You need to learn to cook,cleans and do your laundry ( get a washing machine and cooker). You need to learn to have fun, watch movies alone ( both at cinema or at home) , eat at expensive or fancy restaurant alone ( without posting on social medias) for personal happiness and satisfaction.

You need to learn to hangout more often alone. Hit the gym and pool alone. Now this of course always gives you more opportunities to meet people. You need to travel to other states in Nigeria alone. Lodge in a hotel even if you have friends or family members in that state ( I learnt that abroad). Visit the city alone or with a tour guide.

You see you will have a stress free life. Now imagine you have to do that with someone else or approval. It will cost more. He or she will nag you that your timing is not right. He or she will complain that you are using them to cook, do laundry or travel pals etc He or she will complain of spending too much so he or she has to gain something in return. He or she will feel too entitled to your personal life or space. It will be a cohabitation or codependency thing . And over the years when he or she decides out of the blue to leave you. You will feel the effects no matter how masculine or feminine figure you are. Your 2-3-4-7years of codependency will make you think you can't do without another being.

You can have a girlfriend or boyfriend but practice aloneness during the so called relationship. Learn to be independent. Simple.

Westernlove:
Yes I'm enjoying myself by my myself. I eat whatever I want with rest of mind, I visit the cinema feeling fly with no worries... No nagging, no lies, cheating, manipulation, et all.....Fortuna, fountainyouth, mzrapper can come have this my leftover. Awon Ole alatenuje....

Lol don't try to explain it to anyone. They have to learn on their own. Embracing aloneness is the best way to enjoy life at it peak.

mannazgee:
I notice a particular pattern in women's approach towards romantic relationships.a woman's first love is her only ever love the rest are just to boost her ego even till marriage once a woman gets heartbroken by her first love that's all she switches to game playing she can never love genuinely again .I am 27 years old and all my dating life I have dated both beautiful and average women I noticed the average ones are the ones that fall more the hot ones are emotionless no matter what you do you can never tame them.pretty women are naturally red pill the can never love unconditionally unless they are unexposed.a woman hardly move on from heartbreak from their first love they will still hold some grudge and the next man will suffer it anyways only men love genuinely women don't.

Now, both old or young lady/women their love for you as a man is transactional, provisional and conditional. No matter what any body tell you that is the truth. She can never love you unconditionally. She can never give you the type of love your mind is telling you.

For instance, Some men claim Alpha get free sex or beta men provide to get sex. At the end of the day both are transactional. There is a condition to both case before she decides to sleep with either. You must have met one condition or provided which makes it a transaction.

Even broke guys who still get girls are good in bed or giving head or making her cum. Or you think all so called Alpha and beta guys can make a lady attain orgasm. Lol She will keep going back to the poor guy even though he has nothing apart from orgasm. That is still a condition that the poor guy is good at meeting . No matter how you put it.

Women's love for you is conditional, emotional or transactional. Simple.

Accept the truth and stop stressing yourselves.

Hmm

Whogoes:
Good morning nairalanders
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Let me just go straight to the point. I just parked into to a new location and I leave alone though still single and searching. And I am just 23 .There is this particular girl she always greets me at my bus stop when ever I am coming back from work at night.
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Letter we became friends, though I don't like making friends cos I am an introvert type . But she forced it . Like greeting and complimenting me always. 2months letter , we were already friends on Facebook. One day she messaged me on Facebook that I should do her a favour. I said what is it. She said I should buy her a phone.
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I was like hmmmmmm . So I used that opportunity to ask her to be my girlfriend and she accepted. Now the problem began when I invited her to my house. She refused and gave an excuse.
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There was a time I asked her if she really love me as she claims and she strongly sweared about that . That she loves me so much bla bla bla .
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Now I am wondering if that is love or lust . Maybe she just want my money or what do you guys think. I don't want to buy her any phone . Ofcourse I can't do that unless she proves herself
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Please I need your advice . Matured minds only

Sincerely don't buy her the phone. Her demands will increase overtime. Stop all this being romantic or trying to please a lady with financial request or gift.

If you do, then just accept your relationship with her is transactional, provisional and conditional. If she really likes you, you don't need to go through this phase.

She must earn anything you give her by anyway you deem it fit.

Seriously are you her father? Or brother or relative? You better wake up and don't let a leech that will suck you dry into your life. If it was that cheap or easy they would have bought her the phone.

If you have too much money, buy your mum a new phone or your siblings or surprise your business partner or associate or worker with a new phone. At least they deserve it.

I repeat buying her a phone when she hasn't earn it is like trying to invest in a place that will bring more responsibility. At the end of the day you will have invested in a business that can never generate income.

Simple.

remonics:
This is not a show of sexual prowess. I just feel like sharing the story hoping that I might be liberated,and also for posterity sake. Am in my early forties, married and doing fine. I have had affairs severally with married women,most of which were instigated by the women or by virtue of my sexual sensitivity. I will take my time to tell you how it all started. Pls note that the aim of the story is to encourage parents to take proper care of their kids. If I get abused so much,I might be discouraged. If you are a young adult, u might be experiencing this. As for more me it has ended,but I still feel bad each time I reminisce.

Oga I am waiting for the story oo.

Tell them awon serpent squad. Their husband na Adam.

Please I need to read this story. I can't insult you because I understand. The fact you said they initiated it make me interested in learning.

I am waiting to read ooo. Don't chicken out ooo.

We learn everyday. Let's make a deal. Share the story and I will give you an insight why it happens.

kecee99:
bleep and go

Them serpent. Leave the guy make him dey form Adam. Lol

Lol why all the stress.

Give her the forbidden fruit my brother, be the serpent. Let Adam take is position.

Don't you know forbidden fruit/ things are the sweetest. Don't let social norm hold you down.

Her mind and conscious will always think about you for life even if she marrys the other guy. After all she is never truly yours or his. It is a turn by turn thing.

My fellow redpill brother understand. If you are having issues with this you need to evolve my guy.

A lady who has a boyfriend and still flirting with you ? What does that teach you? You are too emotional. You better man up and become rational or logical.

Hmm last last na turn by turn. Lmao

sexylassie2:
you are expert in giving names, you know all the keywords, alfa widows, alfa cow, alfa fish etc, it is very funny reading the garbage you wrote down

you are mgtow, level 2

so basically you guys are playing games or what

are you guys even matured to warrant all these funny keywords all because of an idealogy

bunch of your guys are joke, suffer from low self esteem, masturbate till you get tired

if you guys were really so macho, you would have gone out there and fish instead of wasting the whole day argueing over irrelevant stuff

how will this put food on the table for you.

Your last sentence still prove my point. It is always about providing or transactional. I read your earlier comments but laugh at them all.

You want attention and I will give it to you only once to prove my point. Which is female nature always need an Adam the provider. Your love is provisional and transactional. Your comments keeps proving that point without you knowing subconsciously.

This is the only Qoute I will reply too. The rest is your problem. Figure it out or pick a sense out of all the nonense you claim I have been spilling. Cause trust me I have picked one out of all your emotional rants and nonesense ( which is you all are always looking for a provider after a wasted prime years and life of dick carousel riding). The attention ends here . Qoute me at your own peril.

Bye.

Arthur21:
I can't remember Michelle claiming to have dated one talk more of getting dumped by one. She said she has encountered them ,don't jump into hasty conclusions

Hmm you don't know. You think she will tell you. Well let us all live in your ignorant notion that she never dated one. Lmao

You learn from experience and trust me when I asked her that question where has it led her? I got the reply I needed.

At time you alpha widows or white knight (captain save a hoe ) lie to each other. But experience is the best teacher. Safe.

DoubleEngine007:
You're wise bro.. We need to deal with these generation of girls.. They must stop those manipulations and tricks they use in fooling and making mockery of Adams( Good boys/men) by force.

My brother that is why we ( the serpent) exist. In our prime years between 35- 60 yes we must deal with all of this new fresh newbies in their prime of 18-25 or 30 max( cause that is their prime years). We must show them that a serpent exist in the garden before their so called new Adam ( 18-28 yrs old boyfriend) who is still in the beta male simp mode understand what is going on.

We just seat back and enjoy our time cause they are not even aware of their own nature. They are still thinking it is an emotional problem. Not knowing the earlier they own up to their female nature the quicker they mature before the undefeated wall (of aging faster than a male ) hits them. This is the deepest truth you can get from a redpill brother. Simple.

Liposure:
my question 4 u is dis. How do we treat our women rite without changing 2 simps

Now this is an interesting question. It is a very hard question to answer based on personal and shared experiences from various men.

Trust me it is easy to treat lady right. But she has to treat you equally right. You might be an upright guy, the provider/ Adam . The loving to no fault guy without cheating. But the disadvantage to that is she will get bored of it. She will start seeing you as predictable and once you enter that stage. She will disrespect you. She will take your care and loving as a weakness. She will start shit testing you. Even trying stuff to prove to her fellow female friends that she has your mumu button.

You are like an amusement park for her. She needs to be constantly amused. So even if you work hard, give her time, travel with her and provide her needs. She will still get bored and use to it. There is always a new challenge to overcome.

That is why I don't believe in the some men who talk about maintaining or keeping frame with ladies to keep them in check. For how long will you do that. Infact you are being fake to her then expect her not to fake the love.

See you can never satisfy or make a woman happy. No matter what. Even Solomon the wisest man had 300 wives and 700 concubines. He couldn't satisfy or find one that was honest and upright.

This why I chose my solitary wolf /mgtow level 1-2 mode. I can't be bothered about trying to please a lady who can't even achieve her own personal happiness.

allandutch:
Yeah, people forgot that this alpha that we're all talking about is more of a mindset and not demographic.
Is the lady on this platform? I'll like to see that her alpha description.

Ok her username is Michellekabod2

Her comment below
Michellekabod2:

Exactly,they believe once you sing the redpill mantra,open daily threads on relationships,troll female threads,shout #teamvirgin you automatically become one.


It takes more than that. I have come across alphas in real life, they are never broke and their looks alone is jaw dropping. They command respect naturally. No woman debates over their authority because their masculinity is so intense.
Being alpha encompasses a lot,the way you think,reason,social intelligence, emotional maturity,financial stability,sexually/physical appeal,confidence,status in the society et Al


I don't know who reduced the standard of being alpha to be just believing the redpill ideology . it seems people believe once you swallow the redpill,grab your balls from ladies,you automatically become one...lol. It takes more than that.
That's why when I see some redpillers here calling others SIMPs/beta males,I have a good laugh because the margin between redpillers here and the SIMPs is very little, just an ideology separates them.

I had to Qoute her after to ask her where it led her too after dating the so called alpha she described though. Probably she is an.alpha widow.

DoubleEngine007:
I pity any guy or man who thinks a lady truly love him.. They are around a man for what they will gain.. They keep claiming victims.. You're wise bro..

My brother, love is sacrificial. Love is pain itself.
Love is being able to forgive even when being hurt. But most ladies don't understand this. The only time they come close to the real definition of love is during childbirth. Simple.

But before that the love a women has for you is transient, transactional, conditional and provisional. Simple truth.

allandutch:
This reminds me of something I came across.
The contextual alpha. Where a guy can be alpha in a particular area of his life and be a complete chump is every other areas.

Yep. Most guys or so called Alpha guys are not aware of this. They only think of it in relationship with women. They don't understand that you can be alpha in relationship and in every other aspects of your life you are a complete simp.

That is why I try as much as not to classify my self as Alpha. I prefer sigma. I do my things my way. I am in no competition with nobody. I embrace aloneness and solitude, because is in that you truly reflect on your life and personality.

It is really hard to explain this to people (Alpha) who have not even done there research and personal analysis on it. They have not even done an inner reflection on the totality of being called a true Alpha male.

Shockingly enough the only person apart from you on this forum that understands this is a lady who once tried to have a logical conversation with me. She defined the alpha characteristics in an almost perfect manner. She claimed to have been with one but as usual got dumped over time.

Glad to see someone else out there understand it in another whole new level. Safe.

DoubleEngine007:
Must you depend on men to survive? You will only be used and dumped like the trash you've turned yourself into. I don't have time to be talking to community sperm bank,who lacks common sense.. Go get a job,and stop being a sperm bank(Sex object)My next reply to you will be silence,cux that's what your likes deserve .. Meanwhile.. Follow the instructions below..

You see read her comments. She thinks a woman is the prize. So self entitled and self centered. I hardly reply comments from females because they are too emotional. Women are never logical and rational.

Now when they see they are not making sense. Abuse and shaming language will come him. They will start making it personal like they will rape or kill your sister or wife. I laugh when females enter that mode because they are not making sense.

They think all men see them as the prize ( trophy wife). They don't know some of us are not bothered. They are yet to realise that we understand clearly what they and their nature are. We like them for what and how hypergamous they are. You can see her saying she will leave for a better person or they will take your wife away. Like seriously.

The next man is just his turn too. She will keep jumping up and down until the wall hits her. Then she will start hating the younger version of herself and finally become a feminist with cats at home.

This is why I always tell guys, even after marriage she never truly yours. She is still looking for the next tree to � monkeybranch.

Time will tell. Let them keep hating .

DoubleEngine007:
You lie man.. Provide for a woman everything she needs .. If she wanna cheat ,that won't stop her. Buy her a private jet,she will go f*cking the pilot.
So chill bro,get the message and stop attacking the OP.. Enough is Enough for these young women who feels the world revolves around their wrinkled asses and sagging breasts... They have manipulated men enough.. The nonsense must stop..

Am so glad this response came from another person. I wanted to type exactly the same thing about even if you provide the world, you are the prince of the earth, she will still cheat on you with the weirdest person in the universe. It is just a female nature thing. They are never satisfied, her hypergamous nature for something better will always take place.

You see, they don't understand a man's nature too. We have our own. But if they want to know that they should go to a female discussion forum too to learn that. But you know what? Any female who know male nature too hide it instead of sharing it with other women. Why? Because women don't like themselves so they won't share it among each other.

Women don't like the truth, they hide behind deception and manipulation. That is why I still have a theory of most men or guys who succeed extremely with women are liars, deception specialists, manipulators, and cunny guys. Women love to hear lies. The truth is extremely bitter to them. Because I onced tried it. At my early stage of being redpilled in my rage mode. I told girls (single and both in relationships )things their so called boyfriend never told them and you won't believe the results. I got tired of it over time cause i knew I was being fake to make it with them.

Now I tell them straight up no long term relationships and am only in for the fun. My brother see them still calling me cause the Adam they have or called boyfriend is too predictable over time. He is not wild like us the serpent. He is not spontaneous. He is not amusing. He has no forbidden fruits to offer them like we the serpent. This just made me realize that the squeeze is not worth the juice.

My brother I leave you with this Qoute:
Why buy the cow when I can get the milk for free.

Gbam

SultanOfPuna:
Chaii God... U don burst ma brainn

Not yet. You need to keep observing how our fellow brothers both at work, home, friends and family act when they are around females.

You will see why the number of Simps will increase. Some even simp till death. Living a life just to please or be the hero for a female being who is selfish and self-centred. A lady always considers herself first in every situation, what is in for her, what does she stand to gain. But you see our simp brothers out there don't even think. They just act like what they are programmed to do. No mind or cognitive thinking on any situation.

Just merely observing people around you will burst your head. A lady once tried to put herself in the shoe of a man in dating( check YouTube) . She realised that she has being self centered all her life. She realised that the treat men give for free just to get to know a lady before intimacy, felt like being used just to be accepted by another being. Any brothers who argue with you ask him this question, what does she offer in return for all your effort for simping. Does she offer equal things in terms of all he offered her.

But let them keep suffering. We the serpent just dey chop and enjoy they go. Make Adam dey do the work and providing. Simple.

Hmm is it me or I just don't trust that guy.

But if that keeps is game incheck or intact, who am I to complain or expose him .

Lmao and they think he is a mumu. Ok ooo

Malawian:
Let me troll you small.

He wanted a choice between the two. If he wanted a third choice, his question would have been, should I marry either of the two.

This is how people fail jamb use of English. Forget any outside knowledge you know of and focus on the subject matter at hand.

Thanks.

You can get angry now bro. I will simply be drinking my whiskey/cocacola.

If trolling makes you happy. Feel free and enjoy your whiskey. It is a free world though.

Malawian:
Check the title of the thread again. Obviously he has decided on either of the two. Which of them did you advise on? This is simply reading and comprehension.

Ok to make it simple for you :

Free them and focus on your finance and wellbeing. Simple

Which indicates none of them.

So hope you ve got your answer.

Malawian:
Oga, he is not asking UA to list his errors, he is asking for the way forward.

And as I can see you still lack reading comprehension. Cause if you didn't you will see the answer to the question.

I purposely gave reason before the answer. So please read well next time and don't Qoute me for qouting sake.

Thank you.

Yep it doesn't.

SultanOfPuna:
A simp is a simp, period.. be it at workplace or financially.
U need to understand the root of Simps
It's starts at young age when the ideology that good people are rewarded while bad people are punished.
The most obiedent child get rewarded
The stubborn child get suspended..
In life it's quite the opposite.
So u can see how a child will believe that if his teacher will reward him for been nice and obiedent then the world should also reward him for being nice..
So he carries this ideology into the real world thats when reality kicks in and he gets bashed,used,dumped and heartbroken and wonders why life is so harsh.

Ok I feel we don't have the same ideology on the different Simps out there.

You may not be a simp at work or financially, but be a simp to women. It varies though.

Now let me focus on your simp based on feminine/ female/women which leads to simping in relationship and marriage.

The social programming of a man is to be a simp. Be a provider and a hero for women. You need to be a Captain save a hoe after all her body counts before marriage and marry her. You need to be a white knight. You need to always help females once she is in need. Now most women know this and capitalize on it. They take advantage of men trying to be a hero.

Recently I started calling normal Simps (Adam) and redpill awoke guys (serpent). You see women love and codedly hangout with the serpent while Adam is good at what he does ( simping and providing). Women disrespect Simps but end up marrying them because of what they can provide.

That is why most married women have practically no respect for their Adam ( husband) . They know he is predictable like Adam. He has no knowledge of what sort to offer. They have seen him finish. Most cheat discretely behind their husband and even if you tell oga, he will never believe it.

Most guys on nairaland at least 95 percent are simp. They have not taken the redpill yet. They still live in a fantasy and delusional world on female nature . They are all in a stage most redpill guys were before. They have been programmed since birth to be Adam. The music, movies, friends, colleagues and family they hangout have orientated them to be a Simp for life.

You can't blame them. And the worst is they are not seeking the knowledge yet. Most will at old age when they realise their so called beloved wife/girlfriend/female friends placed them in an illusional grandeur of the real reality. They must go through that pain and suffering of being a simp. Knowing that they need to unlearn all the nonense and start afresh.

For your own peace of mind, let them be. Because if you try to explain or convince them, they will shame you, insult you or make you feel uncomfortable for speaking the truth. Simple.

SultanOfPuna:
A simp is a man who is too nice with women.
Women do not respect nice guys
A simp is a nice guy that is clueless of women psychology and behavior.
So he always gets manipulated by women
His wife could Bleep outside confidently because she knows her nice husband will believe her no matter what..
I can go on and on..

Please go on. Cause you have only based simping on women. But you can be a simp also in the reality of life. You can be a simp in finance. You can be a simp even at work.

But if you want or only want to focus on simp on only feminine matter then I will know our to address and reply you.

SultanOfPuna:
After going tru the romance thread
And reading some advice posted by guys
I can say so many guys lack O.T about women.
I understand alot of them are Mama's boys so no real knowledge about women..

Mama protected them from the streets but she was doing them more harm than good.
Now they are adults they have to deal with the harsh reality of the streets.

Some of them had father's that were Simps to their mother. So it seemed normal for them to be Simps..

It's a sad time for real men..

Please sir what is your definition of a simp?

Before I can really understand you and the perspective you are coming from ?

Hmm where do I start from?

First of all, You are an irresponsible young man but a hard-working type based on efforts you made.

You allowed the a baby mama to milk you based on your third leg. Infact thinking of it when you where enjoying the sex you didn't tell us.

Why should I answer you. I change my mind lol.

You need to distance yourself from the two. In reality both are not truly yours. It is high time you focus more on yourself. You need to work harder cause you have a brought a child to this world and you are responsible for him.

The babymama will never change. Once you distance yourself she will find another guy, which will lead to another baby. It is inbuilt in her case.

As for madam girlfriend, I understand her, but she needs to move on with her life. You can't keep her. If you do there will be more fight in the future. You have to accept that loss too. You can't eat your cake and have it. Unless na stomach ache you dey find. Simple.

Now for you, you have a legacy already, why are you still looking for women up and down. From your first experience you haven't learnt a thing ba.

You need to start using condom also cause I can sense you like deeping raw. You made a statement saying you still invite both girls on separate times. Meaning you are still chopping them. Oga you need to stop and face reality on ground. Na you set your table and the ball is in your court. Deal with it.

Free them and focus on your finance and wellbeing. Simple .

Lol he needs help.

Although he was right about out of 20 men death , 5 is natural and the rest is because of you know what. Most men at old age die when the real female nature appears at grey age. A life of thinking and depression. The only person they think they could really on will now insult and add salt to their injuries.

Out of all his nonsense there were a few sense in it. I can't wait to see the old age of my fellow brothers when the reality sets in .

Hmm hmm .

ichidodo:
[color=#1980BC] Good..We are all learners...But you must also learn that when in a rotational schedule like us...You are the hero of your own story and not a bit player. You control all aces psychologically via playing with the female psyche ,romantic wise via making your validation very scarce,sexually via handling your business in that department very well etc....And you don't hide your lifestyle from any of them...Its easy when you tell them beforehand and 7 out of ten times they all agree...It even makes dating easier as they all fight to out do themselves just to be Number one. And if anybody gets on my nerves..I replace her without looking back. The main actor here is you...all others are bit part players as they come and go even in marriage...When you maintain masculine polarity, your wife will fight tooth and nail just to suck up to you..[/color]

Interesting though. Thanks for sharing your own perspective. Picked up few things to add to my own pattern. Have a great day ahead. Safe.