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jpride:
The girl in question is not being pressured to change her lifestyle. She is not just comfortable with it. She want a normal life. GET IT STRAIGHT FOOLINLOVE

You already said she was uncomfortable having sex with men. I don't think it's right to force her into a sexual relationship when she feels uncomfortable.

If she wants a so-called normal life, then there's nothing stopping her, since according to you she's not even a lesbian.

Btw, thanks for ignoring my suggestions on how to change your life to more accurately reflect the teachings of the bible. I guess its just too inconvenient for you. You'd prefer to tell people how they can and can't have sex.

Love Machine:
Were you faithful to him?

Yes. Of course. I've never cheated in my life!

They don't want you as a wife, but they don't want to lose you as a girlfriend.

UndisputedBosom:
She didn't say anybody is forcing her, just that she's ashame of her lifestyle and wants a change yet you're here giving her reasons to hold back and thats what is irritating me....

She's ashamed, we get that.

But Op has already said she doesn't want to have sex with men. I fear that if she does, she'll be damaged even further because she doesn't feel comfortable.

So the reasonable option is celibacy.

Maybe one day she'll come to terms with herself and accept the way God made her. Telling someone to be ok with themselves is not a negative message. Except in your society amd your church.

Seems like the message seems to be "you are only ok if we decide you are ok because of some things we picked out of the bible, while ignoring other things because they would be inconvenient for us".

jpride:
Free that girlboy joor.

I see you've conveniently ignored my suggestions to stop cutting your hair, wearing jewellery, wearing leather shoes, eating pork etc.

You probably should because the bible says so.

UndisputedBosom:
Am not angry with you just the way you're talking besides we are not in USA or don't you want her to get married and bear her "own" kids.....

I don't want her to go through any unnecessary suffering, by forcing her into a way of life she is uncomfortable with. I presented a reasonable option - celibacy.

Imagine if the norm was to be gay. Thay being straight was shameful. And someone tried to force you to be gay. That's how she is feeling.

Be kind to her.

Because their stomach hurts.

Next.

Mekzyzeus:
Seems we have reached an impasse !
It's not a smart move to accuse me of plagiarism when you can't simply swing an argument!
I too wonder at your intellectual ability cos you clearly reason like a 5year old still hooked on pacifier
Tread carefully, cos I buy ink by the barrel!!

I can swing an argument but we're not arguing on the same terms.

You argue the details of unrelated items. Like sex chromosomes and allosomally related diseases. You don't know the difference between allosomes and autosomes. You have no comprehension of the complexity of genetic variation, genetic dominance and genetic expression to name a few.

All you provide is excerpts of information, while I am correcting you and attempting to guide you back to the original debate. That everything we are is determined by the genes we inherit from our parents. Including who we are sexually attracted to.

cyril700:
Lol, but that's not romantic na

It's the *most* romantic thing he did for me...

Ahmed0336:
you be correct lady/woman. Had it been I'm single i for package(marry)you

Thanks... I think.

mamagee3:
[color=deeppink]Yeah, I have aunts.[/color]

Get close to them. It's no replacement for mother, but is better than nothing.

jpride:
May God forgive u for calling the bible an outdated book just because u want to justify ur shameful and immoral life.
If u must know, I dnt see homosexuals as normal humans.

May God forgive your ignorance and hate.

That's nothing.

They have shelves of motorised ones in Japan.

My mother has passed. It is awful, but I'm alive to tell the tale.

I don't have any parents any more.

While God can be your parent, it's always useful to find an elder female with whom to talk.

Do you have any aunts, grandmother, teachers?

Cheated on me. What a great guy!

Mekzyzeus:
WTF are you talking about?
Don't get mad that you can't prove your point, not that anyone ever proved that homosexuality is linked to one's genes..a statement I wasted a better part of my time drumming into your head!
You want to walk me through genetics?? (LORD!!!) thats quite laughable!
You are too petty!
You brought up all the issues(sex chromosomes, gender dysphoria nd all) which I even took time to trash just to show you it has nothing to do with genetic sexual orientations!
Hurl insults all you want, but that still doesn't change the fact that genes has nothing to do with homosexuality!!

It's like banging my head against a brick wall.

EVERYTHING is determined by genes. Sexuality, gender, personality, cancer amd so on. How am I supposed to prove this to you if you don't understand any of the background of geneology?

You are the one keeps changing the subject. Trying to look smart by copying stuff you googled. You can't even debate coherently.

You clearly have very little education on the subject of genetics - that's not abuse, it's how you present yourself. It's becoming clear to me your education in anything is very substandard.

Smh.

jpride:
Stop misapplying the scripture please. Do u also know dat 1Cor 5:9 - 12 ask us to quit mixing in company with a serious wrongdoer? Do u also know dat 1 Cor 15:33 say bad association spoil good habit?
When u wanna apply, apply reasonably

Jesus didn't write Corinthians. And the bible is old, as I've said before. It's outdated. The literal interpretation is no longer useful.

If you want to lead a life of hate and discrimination, then that's on you.

God will judge us all in the end. At least I stood up for what is right. Love and peace.

jpride:
Incase u dont know, read Romance 1:26,27 and tell me whether God condemn homosexuality or not

In case you don't know - you're not meant to cut your hair, eat pork or shrimp, wear jewellery, tear your clothes, or touch things made out of cows.

Go read ALL of your bible.

Sure.

Women have to dress "sexy", but not "slutty".

Be educated, but not opinionated.

Have a job, but still raise a bunch of kids and keep the house clean.

Eat a lot because that's cute, but never get too fat.

Have their own friends and life, but nothing that will clash with kids, house, job or husband's needs.

Anything else to add? Stop telling women what to do.

jpride:
Did Jesus promote same sex thing??

I am not asking or telling everyone to be gay, for crying out loud.

Jesus taught us to love everyone. EVERYONE.

Mekzyzeus:
You mean "androgen insensitivity syndrome"? Tis a fact that sometimes chromosomal arrangement that is contrary to their phenotypic sex; for example, XX males or XY females can occur. Thats gender dysphoria which can be corrected via gender reassignment.
Am yet to see any recent research attributing ones genetic makeup to homosexuality

Look, you need to stop reading the first things that pop up on google. I can't debate with someone who has a meagre education and keepa changing the subject.

I mean, what about Turners Syndrome? Kleinfelters?

Am I supposed to defend the very basis of scientific method here?

It's impossible for me to give you three years of education in a single post. Just stop.

I am not talking about androgens. I am not talking about gender dysphoria. I am talking about how out genetic makeup determines our sexual orientation.

Even animals have displayed homosexuality, because it is a variation that happens in nature.

Everything is genetic. EVERYTHING. Because it is determined by our genes and how they are expressed. The structure of your brain is determined and controlled by genes.

Why do I bother? Only people with extremely low exposure to education and the world thinm that homosexuality is somehow bad.

titosantana:
I'm scared of you passing the message through body language

Very funny.

jpride:
Are you really comfortable playing with Love Machine?? If it is really a normal thing, why tactfully support it?? Why not openly tell everyone ur sexual orientation?

I do. I'm straight. It doesn't mean I believe anyone different to me is wrong and evil.

I'm not a discriminatory person. I believe in human rights, love and peace - that's what Jesus taught us.

And I stand up for human rights. Even if it makes me unpopular. Because protecting and loving your fellow humans is the right thing to do.

titosantana:
You sound mature, but I hope you won't call me a fool if I fall in love with you.

I rarely level abuse at anyone.

Mekzyzeus:
My point is that..Nobody is born gay!! Environmental and social factors comes into play. Take for instance a baby boy being brought up as a girl and all.. unconsciously he starts exhibiting and imbibing girlish attributes! We all are no stranger to gender confusion.
How come scientists haven't been able to clearly demonstrate the "gay gene"
Homosexuality ain't genetic, but is an unconsciously learned habit!

Because there is no single gene responsible. Sexuality is not as simple as "one gene". There are many examples of this in genetics, such as hair type and colour - several genes are responsible and each have their own effect on expression and dominance of the other genes involved.

Sexuality is not the same as gender "confusion". That is entirely different. Being born with a female brain and a male body is referred to as gender dysphoria and can be remedied through gender reassignment. It is not the same as being homosexual at all.

mamagee3:
[color=deeppink]Underneath my eyebrows, I discovered them by sight.

No, it did not bleed.[/color]

That's interesting.

Maybe you scratch them or rub them in your sleep.

Do you pluck or wax your eyebrows? This could cause irritation leading to rubbing them in your sleep.

If you do pluck or wax, maybe try a hypoallergenic cream afterwards or change your brand of wax.

Also, facial moisturisers and soaps can collect underneath the eyebrows and cause irritation which would make you rub/scratch them.

Try different brands and try to avoid face products that contain sulphur and petroleum products. Lanolin can be good. Pawpaw or aloe vera gels are also calming to the skin.

Do you think this could be a reasonable thing to try?

Mekzyzeus:
Homosexuality ain't genetic senorita!

As regards your argument about gay gene transfer of sex chromosomes(genosomes), male has XY sex chromosome(hetrogametic sex) and the female has XX sex chromosome(homogametic sex). The X(female) and Y(male) chromosome helps determines the gender of the baby depending on the one it inherits. This is basic rudimentary elementary biology.

New research even indicates that it is possible to tell whether a man is gay or straight by monitoring tiny changes in how his DNA functions AFTER birth – a field known as epigenetics. Epigenetic changes are known to be triggered by ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS  such as chemical exposure, childhood abuse, diet, exercise and STRESS.
Long story short.. homosexuality ain't genetic oh!!

I'm aware of how meiosis works and how chromosomal configurations determine gender. X and Y chromosomes aren't the only ones inherited from our parents.

Epigenetics I am also well aware of. DNA changes via mutation. Epigenetic factors only control expression of genes that are present to begin with.

You may also note that epigenetics involves genes - so you contradict yourself. It is genetic. Because it involves genes and their expression. Of course sexual orientation isn't expressed at birth. How many babies do you know that have sex?

MRBrownJ:
this lady is trying to be who she is not. the social etc pressure has her thinking that being with her man will make her being "accepted" in the society.. if what she really wanted was to be with a man, then she would (as if it is THAt difficult?!). sadly, this lady isnt attracted to MEN, and thats why she gets down with women, and forcing her to be with a man will simply be to foolishly waste her time (and this man's).
she should accept who she is instead of trying to con a man and society.

here is simple mathematics:
- has any man here being "forced" into gay sex, "forced" to live as a gay man for years?! HELL NO!
- has any woman here being "forced" into lesbian sex, "forced to live as a lesbian for years?! HELL NO!
- people should accept who they are and stop using BS excuses to blame as the reason for their sexual orientations (due to social, religious or family pressure)

Hallelujah, a sane person.

jpride:
@Foolinlove

Please get the point straight. If u are not here to offer positive advice, flee from this thread. I'm here narrating d ordeal of a young girl to u, you are being unreasonable. Its unfair. Do u know what it took her to narrate this shameful story to me Do u know how much she need ur helpful advice?? You live a normal life, do u know how it feels to know ur lifestyle is abnormal, shameful and irritating?? Do u know the trauma dat comes wen all ur friends flee from u because of ur nature? Someone is telling u she was lured into the act wen she was tender and feel so ashame and want to get out of it, you are encouraging her to continue in it?? No one is created homosexual, pls get dat into ur skull.
She want to live like every other girl. More so, she knows her lifestyle dishonours God and it will not mean good if she eventually marry. Why cant u keep quiet if u cant help?

For those who gave reasonable advice, THANKS. I will forward your opinions to her

So you didn't actually read anything about celibacy and the USA that I wrote? It was helpful for your cause, even though I don't personally agree with it.

No, I dont know the shame personally. But I'd like to point out that the shame doesn't occur on its own. It comes from homophobes like you judging her.

[quote author=UndisputedBosom post=47166712][/quote]I'm sorry you feel that way.

I'm advocating for human rights. Homosexuals are people too.

I'm not a lesbian, obviously. But there's no need to stoop to abuse and assumptions about my personal life because I disagree with you. I've been very civil and respectful to everyone here.

I even provided advice for the friend that I thought may be helpful - read again about the bit on the USA.

Domislaz:
I must say I am impressed. If I were a pervert, I would have jerked-off on this post.

I once knew a lady who had this sort of aura. She frequently indulged in delighting the senses as well as exciting intellectual and emotional admiration.

I just hope that you are not her because she eventually broke my heart.

Why thank you :-) I love to debate. But I also like to support human rights.

I can assure you I am not that lady and that we have never met :-)