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OP,

Nothing new. Things are hard everywhere, but the difference is how the extent people go to trim costs. Many Nigerians are still thinking of hosting parties, expensive burial ceremonies, weddings, birthday bashes, buying expensive phones etc. To cap it, having plenty of children yanfu-yanfu. To be honest, I do not think Nigerians, especially in Southern Nigeria, are suffering o. Instagram and Facebook pictures tell a different story.

pansophist:
And a friend wanted to move to Abuja from Austria, seems like I will show him this thread.

Moving to Abuja or any part of Nigeria is not really the issue, but what does he intend to do when he has moved? Also, how long has he been outside of Nigeria?

ednut1:
they have working holiday visa for citizens of these countries. They can come in with this visa start work next day if they see one. Unfortunately Nigeria is not there. And like Ticha said they wont give you visit visa to come look for work or attend interviews.

I recall some Nairalanders who said Nigeria is better off than Brazil and Chile.

Drunk modafvckers!

arena07:
The work ethics in several Asian countries are challenging. particularly for Africans, as a significant portion of available jobs tend to be menial in nature, even when you graduate from there universities.

That is because all Asian countries are not the same. The opportunities for foreigners, regardless of race in say Malaysia aren't the same as opportunities for foreigners in say, Singapore. Yes, the work ethic is most Asian countries, especially those characterised with East Asian culture, can be tedious for non-natives. The koko is that the jobs are available.

However, it is worth noting that a limited number of STEM graduates occasionally secure positions through a combination of luck and exceptional language proficiency. Japan may be different but some East Asian countries may have higher instances of discrimination against individuals of African descent

Yes, I highly recommend STEM unless one is prepared to learn the language for at least a year before commencing studies if the course is non-STEM like a Gambian did. Even STEM has courses one should not touch, like nursing. I don't think patients will be comfortable with blacks attending them as nurses or psychologists - both of which require native fluency. However, skills will get you the job if the language knowledge is zero. My guy got a job with a salary equivalent of $5K per month because he knows artificial intelligence (his research is AI related). This guy does not know how to speak Japanese. I even speak better Japanese than he does. The interviewers even requested he introduce himself in Japanese, but he politely declined as he did not know how to speak the language. Mind you, before this offer, he had three offers waiting for him.

If I am to recommend Asian countries for Black Africans and courses in terms of employment opportunities, in order of ranking: Japan, Singapore, China and South Korea. The competition in Korea and China for jobs is fiercer, so one has to be very good at the skills and language. Singapore is a peculiar case as there are restrictions for foreigners to be employed there. The government scrutinises the university you graduate from and the quality of work experience as a foreigner seeking employment. Black African candidates would have to showcase their skills for a firm to leave Chinese, Indians, and Westerners to employ them. If you graduate from, say, the National University of Singapore, the chances are higher, but NUS is pricey for foreigners. Tuition fees mimic the equivalent in Harvard and Oxbridge. Scholarships are minimal for non-South East Asian citizens. If not because of the use of English, it should come last in my ranking as it is very tough for black Africans without specialist skills. The surest or easiest way is to be transferred from the European or American office to the Singapore branch. Note: an African American has it easier as getting a job in the US is easier and faster to get a transfer compared to a black African that is still on a working visa vs citizenship status for the African American.

Those countries are the ones with stable economies. The rest are still developing. So, don't mistake Vietnam for South Korea or the Philippines for Japan. I have met a Nigerian who did both BSc and MSc in Computer Science at a Vietnamese University but could not get a job until he got it in Japan. He has been here for seven years and does not know how to speak Japanese. I dare say I speak better Japanese than he does and can read Kanji better than him. But he works in a top tech firm in the country.

So, there you have it.

tensazangetsu20:
Yeah when I left high school, I was a bit active on the nairaland job section. Banks in Nigeria used to go to UK and set aptitude tests for guys. People were going to school abroad with the hope of coming back to Nigeria and working and making the economy better. This japa of a thing through school started heavily in 2015 and got much worst over the years

Access Bank, UBA and First Bank were doing so. There were at least three job vacancy ads on the front page EVERYDAY! People got jobs via Nairaland and testified. Jobs were posted daily. Before 2015, my parents' business flourished, and that was when I fell in love with capitalism. The desire to leave Nigeria was not as high as it is today. The rampant slaughtering was not as they are now. Farmers could farm in PEACE.

It is the reason till thy kingdom comes, I will forever hate people who campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. I really hate them.

pansophist:
The club is like a gambling house. You will always come out poorer than you went in with.

Man, I quoted you in the Foreign Politics topic you created and got banned till the next day. Emailed the mod to reverse the ban, nothing comot. I no do again. Maybe on a different section.

fadilaMaikiriki:
Hello all!

What's your opinion about women with multiple piercings? What do you think of that or them? Does it affect your opinion about such a woman? Will your opinion about a woman change if you notice she has more than the usualpiercings on the ear lobes? I have about 4 piercings on my ear lobes. I don't know if someone's opinion about me will change if they notice that. Or if those piercings will have any effect on how the person sees me.

I don't think ill of ladies with a lot of piercings. Some could be cultural. Others could be fashion or some form of identity. But I stay clear from ladies with lots of piercings and tattoos. Let them dey their dey, while I dey my dey.

arena07:
I understand your viewpoint, but not everyone possesses the endurance to withstand prolonged hours of menial labor. From my perspective, it appears that both the United States and Europe offer more favorable working conditions.

Why do you think it is menial work? Isn't part-time job common across all developed countries for students? If you mean after studies, if you know the language to a considerable extent and have relevant skills, especially as a STEM graduate, chances of getting a good job are higher. No discrimination against native Japanese, as both foreigners and natives undergo the same process.

Pman8:
Bro I am happy seeing this comment here,,,I live in europe and I have seek out employment in major farmland owners here..I have worked with several crop producers here and I can tell you that the major place they invest funds is not even on the crop production but in the security of the farmland and private security for their protection.

They invest majorly in securing the farmland with electric fencing, CCTV, Farmland Alarm, they outsource security of farmland to a competent security firm...They have security personnel with all kinds of equipment Gun, tasers, walkie e.t.c patrolling the farmland every second and minute and hour of the day...

In all their farmland they have a security outpost..they make use of a greenhouse too, you need to see their set up!
You come to Nigeria, there are farmers earning like 100million-1billion naira per annum and they cannot invest 1% of their revenue into securing their farmland or even their own personal security..And again the government isnt helping out either...

Good to read that security actually gets the bulk of investments in the farms you have visited/toured. But I am still sceptical about the bold, because at that stage it is no more a business aimed at producing crops but securing them. How does a company justify ploughing resources into an item/area she does not intend to monetise? I am really curious on the kind of crops these European farmers cultivate, because I imagine how it will look like securing large swathes of cassava, palm oil or cocoa farmlands.

But let's go with what you said. In Europe, you are most likely dealing with thieves just like everywhere. However, in Nigeria, you are dealing with a state-backed ethnic militia that if you attack them, you are reported to the country's recognised military outfits. How would you feel if you get arrested because you shot at Fulani herdsmen who attacked your farmlands? I mentioned Nwuneli that depends on outgrowers, how then do you protect against such? Which kind money outgrowers get? The issue is not really securing your farm land, but securing it against a state-backed force. Do you want to fight the government?

ednut1:
frankleen now does babalawo /ifa stuff hahaha. What a clown

Seeing the picture. I have three possible reasons why he is into this stuff; one is to cash out from the folks who are interested in it. The other two, I reserve my comment.

Islandboi:
how is it worth paying? You cum under 30mins and your eyes go clear

It is the person's money. Allow the person to enjoy it. What is wrong with some of you that you don't understand different consumers have different ways to flex or unwind? And are willing to spend any amount to do so? Your type go insult me if I buy a Tag Heuer watch for $5K because no be the same time e go tell me? Did I tell you I am buying it just because I want to be told the time? You think celebrities and rich men who spend as high as 1M naira on an escort last over an hour? So, no be the same road BMW X7 and Toyota Camry go ride on?

You sound pained that a man like you is spending more than you do on toto. Instead of making more money, you want to dictate how he spends his. What sort of mentality is that? Is it your 30 minutes?

stephano100:
Can wait to read this, please publish the article & notify me🙏😁

I don bookmark this page. It is going to take time sha.

UYEMDO35:
Absolutely I will never miss anything about Nigeria if I japa comot for dis Godforsaken kontry.

Easy to write/type/say. The proof is you spending at least six months outside Nigeria.

To your topic: I miss the food and my family members. When a person has stayed at least 25 years in a particular location and later relocated elsewhere, you crave things in that previous environment.

Other than the aforementioned, nothing else. The safety, tranquillity and diligence with which things work are priceless to me.

arena07:
I have observed that you base in Japan, how are you coping with academic and work? Japan long hours work na die

Academic work is pretty independent. You are shown some stuff; they expect you to take it from there. It is largely research-based rather than taught as in the UK. The classes are pretty easy. The koko lies in research and experiments. Working hours are long, overtime is loved. People do their jobs diligently and take it seriously. For someone coming from a country with a high unemployment rate, nothing concerns me with long hours.

worry357:
Simple answer
Your children will hate you forever for depriving them of an upbringing in an advanced country. They will curse you until they dance on your grave.

If they have citizenship of a developed country, I dare say make them grow up in Africa for a limited time. The time spent will infuse the confidence, and charisma needed to slug it out when they move back to the developed country. The level of confidence a person who grew up in a black dominated environment has compared to a counterpart who grew up in say Norway is going to be entirely different. The koko is the passport. Secure that and raise your kids in Ghana.

Let me see who will come to tell me my daughter wants to be a boy because of kin ni kon

1Sharon:
Dooes that include Nigerians that were born in the UK, because you know we exist right?

You guys don't get it. If someone moves to a new country and struggles, it's not so easy to just move back.

Agreed.

Look at Lagos state, alot of people aren't indigenous and they struggle. Do they conceive moving back? Who tells them to go back to their state of origin?

Are you not following events in Nigeria? Lagos is ronu-ing these days.

It is poor vulnerable Nigerians that truly need to relocate. The present stock are simply greedy and copyiing others.

Well, research has shown that when citizens of a particular country get rich, they relocate to richer countries. The rate at which Mexicans relocated to the US skyrocketed when the GDP per capita hit $10K. The same is with China and India. Does it mean that China is not doing well? But they are everywhere. As it is, young Chinese who have money from their parents japa to Japan, Singapore and Hong Kong. Before the trade war with the US, they were moving enmass via student visas. The same with India, where the best and brightest are moving out of India.

https://www.hoover.org/research/africa-2050-demographic-truth-and-consequences (this article referenced that survey about inhabitants in newly rich countries migrating to richer ones).
https:///buH8miqB9Q (The one about India).

Human wants are insatiable. The more money a person has, the greater the choices.

Phrankleen is trying to tell Nigerians as it is, back in the day Nigerians used to tell rosy stories about the West and lie about their achievements. Now people are telling them as it is and they're accusing them of holding them back and trying to stop their progress. Why are Nigerians so hard headed with a pack mentality?

To a great extent, this is a UK problem. The UK economy is not as well diversified as Germany or Switzerland. Although, those latter two are harder to migrate to coupled with language problems. Another reason is that people went with big expectations. Maybe it is me, but I go into situations having low expectations and preparing for the worst. Another problem is selling their assets to move to the UK. That can be good in, say, Canada since permanent residence could be easily and straightforward attained or in the US where money can be made easily.

The UK is not just it considering the profiles of these persons who complain. You don see doctor complain before? An auditor who worked in a Big4?

It is sickening how ignorant Nigerians think moving to the West alone automatically guarantees their success or means they've made it in life. I'm not anti-japa, I support Doctors & nurses going to the West, these are people that are guaranteed to become somebody

I do agree with the bold, especially as it concerns the UK. God knows I have never fancied that country except if I was to attend Imperial College or Oxbridge. It never caught my interest. The onus is on our people to know why they are migrating, don't sell off your assets, have low expectations, not move in with the entire household etc. Some countries are only good to relocate to on a student visa as a single person. The UK is one of such. Luckily, dependents can work (depending on the visa). In the US, dependents cannot work.

OK how about Jamaica?

Just there. The relocation by OP is hinged on how much she has. Because with more money, she gets more options. Also important are working skills. Jamaicans have it better as they can move to the US to do farm work and earn dollars. OP wants to move because of cultural reasons, so Africa is the only place. If she was just looking for a black dominated country, Jamaica can fill in the blank, plus Barbados and Bahamas. Interestingly, both Bs countries have stringent immigration policies against fellow blacks from poorer countries. Even poor people don't like other poor people.

This life no balance.

Nyascobar1414:
Male feminist ko?

Nothing like a male feminist. Any male feminist you see is either using it to hunt for toto or ignorant or has gayish tendencies. Feminism of today don spoil. Nothing good can come out of that movement. Now, don't get me wrong, Nigeria needs some aspect of feminism, but that is mostly in Northern Nigeria. And we know too well that Islam and feminism are like oil and water.

I was once a feminist. I have posts dating to 2013-2014 where I was chanting ignorantly about feminism. But ever since, feminazis don hijack am. The major problem is that our stock of feminists derives inspiration from the West, just like other regions do. So, I cannot really blame them. But applying Western feminism to Nigeria will lead to problems. That is the issue. But will they listen?

Dre183:
Hope alcohol plenty there?

Alcohol is available. East Asians drink a lot of alcohol, and it cuts across both genders. However, after a riot by mostly Indian labourers due to working conditions, the Singaporean government introduced a time limit when alcohol could be served in certain places. She also increased the tax on alcohol.

HRprof:
My 10 take home from Singapore
1. Singapore is 100% safe

Yes, it is freakingly safe. The rules are rules. Everybody must follow it. Singapore does not bend its rules. However, I was chatting with a Singaporean doctor and told him the reason Singapore is safe is largely because of the rules. Because when compared to Japan which has rules too, but are largely culturally inspired, Japanese can behave the way they do even without any government law. But remove the laws in Singapore, and an increasing number of people will break them.

2. Cleanliness of the country is superb, in fact is so clean that your conscience will not allow you to drop a dirt on the street. Hotels and business areas are inspected by agency to ensure they are SG clean certified., some are given certificates of SG clean which they displayed at the reception,

This is true. One of the cleanest cities on the planet.

3. CCTV cameras are everywhere

Very true. You cannot hide from the government. E no dey possible.

4. Prostitution is not allowed

Not true. I have asked this question twice, one to the doctor and two on a public page. The government legalises prostitution, but it comes with its rules and restriction. Sex workers are tested periodically, pay taxes and are confined to Geylang district.

5. Crime like drug trafficking and kidnapping is death sentence not negotiable

Again, rules are rules in Singapore. I did not know no dey. Ignorance is no excuse.

6. Singapore is expensive. I Interviewed a Singaporean guy who narrates the living conditions of the low income earners using himself as an example. He work 3 jobs and his total monthly income is 2k Singapore dollars which is almost same with USD his family stayed in Malaysia where his kid’s school because of cheap education, he visits them weekends. Many low income earners live in shared apartments 3 guys per room. Mind you this guy is not educated so he does menial jobs to survive.

Most likely a Malay Chinese or even Malay itself. Singapore is expensive to live in, which is why salaries are high, especially for citizens. Foreign talents as the government calls them are those with superior work experience and qualifications to augment certain skills gap in the economy. However, Indians in India have used a loophole in the trade agreement the Singaporean government signed with India to fill almost every position, including those blue Singaporeans (those who have been there since independence call themselves that name) can fill.

Ask Singaporeans, the Chinese ones, what they think about Indians in Changi Business Park. The Indians from India used the native Indian population to mask themselves and fill positions. The Chinese Singaporeans got angry and complained bitterly on social media platforms. They threatened to vote out the PAP (has been in power since 1965). The government had to revise some of the employment laws making it very hard for average or slightly above-average folks to be employed. There is the S and E pass. Another one is the ONEVisa Pass, but strictly for the top 1% of workers/business people. There is also the Tech Visa, but with strict conditions.

The cost of living is like Switzerland—even her universities, although world-class, are very expensive for foreigners. Most scholarships are allocated to citizens from neighbouring countries rather than far away, except a few from the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy.

7. Government monitors everybody bank transactions if you get more inflows than what you earn as monthly income you will be subject to questions.

The "gahmen" monitors everything you do. Protests or rallies cannot be held unless applied two weeks before the date and must be at Hong Lim Park. The last time a protest against government policies was held was in 2013, when citizens campaigned against the White Paper plan to increase the population from 5 million to 6.9 million. Singapore has one of the lowest birthrates globally, but not as low as South Korea.

8. At the food court a popular street food restaurant you must remove your tray to the dishwasher after eating or else you pay a fine.

A tradition in East Asia.

9. When you mentioned you are from Africa what comes to their mind is South Africa. It happens that Singapore has kind of relationship with South Africa.

I cannot think of any presently. But Singapore enjoys a good relationship with South Africa. To be fair though, South Africans tend to stick to the host country's laws. The spate of drug smuggling by Nigerians pre-2007 really vexed Singaporean elites. They really hate that stuff, especially if the smuggler's country is not a major trading partner. Lee Kuan Yew even mentioned Nigeria(ns) when addressing a journalist about the death penalty.

As a Nigerian with a Nigerian passport in Singapore, you will be treated differently from a South African or African American. For instance, few Indians from the mainland tend to misbehave, but the government is mindful of how they are treated due to trade relations with India and the native Indian population.

10. Lastly, if you are on tourist visa and overstayed you will be tracked down and deported no hidden place.

Rules are rules. I say it in Singapore's defence that the rules are so simple as ABC. If you don't like the rules, don't break them.

Sincere apologies for almost taking over your thread, but anytime I see anything related to Singapore, it ignites an interest in me. I have followed events in the country for ten years now. I know the politicians by their names, pictures, the universities they attended and courses they studied. Lee Hsien Loong, son of Lee Kuan Yew studied at Cambridge like his father. But he did Computer Science, not Law. Both made a double first class. The incoming prime minister is Lawerence Wong who grew up with a single mother. Recently retired from politics is Tharman Shanmugaratnam who I really admire. If he had not retired would have been the president - which is an appointed position rather than elective. You also have Josephine Teo who made a gaffe about public housing and Vivian Balakrishnan, foreign minister, who is a medical doctor. In Singapore, public officials earn very high salaries and are held to high standards. Teachers are well paid, but only the best and brightest are recruited to be teachers. Singapore does not employ foreigners to teach in public schools. I wept when Lee Kuan Yew died. He is the number one politician I revere. The second is Abe Shinzo.

Let me stop here for now.

Majulah Singapura!

HRprof:
More pictures

That is The Pinnacle by Duxton at One Cantonment Road!

That is public housing o

HRprof:
So I head to another tourist destination called SANTOSA decide to take a sky ride for the first time my mind cut

Sentosa Island. The only place where foreigners are allowed to purchase residential property in the country. Freakingly expensive!

HRprof:
More pictures
1. Residential building
2. Breakfast
3. Shopping mall

The famous HDB

If you could, visit the one at One Cantonment Road. The Pinnacle by Duxton. Also, visit The Interlace, a private residential building. There is another which I admire - D'Leddon by late Zaha Hadid.

HRprof:
l notice a kind of tradition among restaurant customers mostly the street food restaurants when a customer finish eating is the customer’s responsibility to take away the place to the dishwasher. I saw a notice on the wall also dishwasher wearing a T-shirt written. Thank you for returning your stray

The same applies in Japan and other cities with a large proportion of East Asians. In Japan, there is no penalty but when you see others doing it, nobody go tell you to do as they do.

HRprof:
Singapore is the most beautiful country in the world. The safest and cleanest . I thought Paris is heaven until I visited Singapore

Hong Kong is cleaner than Paris, but not as clean as Singapore. In fact, I dare say Dubai is cleaner than Paris. Most western cities cannot compete with cities in developed Asia o. If you go to China, you fit shout. Cities in Asia are clean and most importantly safe. Singapore is freakingly safe. The Economist Intelligence Unit has conducted a rankings of safest cities globally. From the inception sometime around 2015/2016 to date, the top three cities are in Asia. Tokyo, the world's populated city, is the safest. Singapore comes second, and Osaka third.

HRprof:
There are rules in Singapore that blow my mind

- shewing gum in public. Is prohibited
- feeding pigeons in public is prohibited
The above is to keep Singapore clean as the cleanest country in the world

Singapore is still using right hand wheel car and only the rich own a car because their government wants to discourage citizens from populating the city with cars and encourage then go by public transport therefore set a rule that your car should not be older than three years meaning you must change your car every three year to a brand new.
The country No send their citizens

The bold is not entirely true. It is ten years after which you apply for a renewal. If you don't get it, the car must be sold out. The certificate to be eligible to buy a car is known as the COE - Certificate of Entitlement. The COE can cost twice or thrice the actual base price of the car. The COE is different from the car. You cannot buy a car without the COE. And it is bidding process where you compete with folks who want to buy a Rolls Royce even if yours na Toyota Camry.

Also, driving in Singapore is expensive due to the Electronic Road Pricing system where motorists are charged for driving on certain roads within a particular period of time. The public transport system is efficient, safe, affordable, but not as punctual as Japan or Hong Kong or even Taiwan. Between 2016 - 2018, she experienced a lot of train delays and breakdown due to over usage. Thankfully, the government had to work it out because people lamented and started saying the government should handover train management to the Japanese.

HRprof:
Yes for Nigeria it my not applicable to other country visiting Singapore

I met with a Burundi lady she said she does not require any visa to visit Singapore she just book her flight down to Singapore I was surprised imagine Burundi.

Before 2006/7, Niegrians enjoyed visa free access to Singapore. But after a spate of drug smuggling (the smugglers were hanged), she cancelled the visa free access and made it very difficult for Nigerians to enter Singapore. Even Kemi Onabanjo of McKinsey was denied a student visa to do her MBA program at INSEAD Campus in the country.

HRprof:
After eating I branch at fruits shop to buy fruits. I don’t know the name of the fruit but test nice

That is Durian, Very bitter eh. Nice to see another Singapore thread on Nairaland. I know that country like the back of palm but I have never been there. I even got invited by three Singaporeans, but let me not rush the process.

In Lee Kuan Yew I trust.

purples25:
I don't even understand the mom's wisdom. Honestly. If I was her, I wouldn't try to exhibit and parade myself in front of his friends. What's the deal? Does she want to become friends with the son's friends too or what?

If I am her, even acting with wisdom, I will first assess the situation. These boys are rich but not wise, and he needs their connection to move forward in life and later help mom. Because they are not wise, they may try to dismiss her son if they find out she's the mother. If I was her therefore, I will not call out to him or associate with him when he is with them. As long as he is coming back home and still with us in reality, no problem. That particular time is not the time to start acting like a baby, trying to validate 'I am his mother! I am his mother!' For what now, haba! How will your son move if you are always sticking to him like chewing gum?

I, in her shoes, will let him gain what he must gain from them. When he is done benefiting from them, and moves up so high with so much power, then they cannot do anything when I am finally introduced as mom.

I see her behavior as childish.

She's been on the streets since, she didn't understand the way of social oppression here? MUST she reinforce her status as his mother at that instance? What's this desperation for relevance from her?

Even though I am of the opinion that one should not deny the mom publicly, I find this perspective very interesting and insightful.

prophetfire:
. What of Nigeria that stood by them spending huge cash and spearheading the fight then?
What's the reward? Xenophobia!!!

Well, the argument by South Africans is that Nigerians commit a lot of crimes in South Africa. Also, they benefitted a lot from the USSR compared to us. Moreover, Russia is stronger than Nigeria. So, it makes sense aligning with a stronger fellow than your mate.

Raalsalghul:
What type of infrastructure do you mean?

Almost the kind of infrastructure found in developed countries. For instance, many citizens from developed countries can live in Malaysia and enjoy an acceptable standard of living as their home countries at a low cost. Such is not possible in Nigeria. However, issues like crime and acceptable level of public service have lower standards than developed countries. Also, another way to assess how developed or stable or rich a country is based on the strength of her passport. Malaysia's passport is pretty strong for a Muslim-populated nation. Before the UAE rose up the ranks, she was the only Muslim-majority country with a pretty strong passport.

1Sharon:
Lol. Why wouldn't he hold onto his British passport?

I am of the opinion that Nigerians in the diaposra who pontificate that Nigerians in Nigeria should not relocate should move back to Nigeria. And when they do, they should let go of their developed countries' citizenships and residency statuses. It is practicing what they preach.

No to hypocrisy.

Exactly. Haiti is a poor country like Nigeria, so what's the OP's point?

Nigeria is pretty governable, and the economy is Africa's biggest. Haiti is a wasteland, poor, totally ungovernable and completely lawless. It is a magnified sh!thole! It is better to reside in Borno than in Haiti. Tensa20 has given OP options. She should do the needful.

Hatrick01:
wannaclownzit, this nairaland.
Take ur obesity matters to ur frog head president (the president putin's ally wannabe i mean).
And dont forget to take along ur HIV stats while going. (thats if he too aint a patient)

The then USSR was behind the ANC when whites dehumanised South Africans on their land. When Mandela was imprisoned because he challenged brutal racism, it was the USSR that offered succour, funds, training, protection etc. Expecting the party to turn her back when Russia needs her moral support is total disloyalty and very unfair. The ANC is right to stand by Putin.