₦airaland Forum

Basseti:
Ok, now U are sounding ridiculous.

Its bad enough to try and draw similarities btw xtian and muslim fanatics to try and justify Islamic extremism. To also try and use conspiracy theories to protect terrorist actions is just pitiable. There is no ample evidence in America or anywhere for that matter that suggests that 9/11 was orchestrated by Americans themselves. U are just clutching on straws.

Now I'm really gettting very disappointed on Nairaland christians (I know alot christians in real life have more understanding of English language than those on NL). WHICH OF MY POST HAVE I TRIED TO JUSTIFY EXTREMISM BE IT ISLAMIC, XTIAN?

Secondly, which one be my own now ooo. I don't work for national geographic. I have never met any of their reporter/researcher. I didn't feature in the video doc. I just said their is a video documentary made by the world respected National Geographic about Non-muslim Americans (Who actually suffered the loss of 911 and feels the pain the most) saying and proving that it was an inside job. If their so called evidence is wrong, na dem sabi why they want to protect the terrorist now. I even said whether it is true or not is not my business. So why is that statement eating Nairaland christians up?

The truth is it will continue to eat you up as long as you continue to habour that hatred within you. That's what you suffer when you just want to hate a group of people just to prove that na you holy pass.

The growth in the UK is from immigration and Muslim breeding not conversion. Same in the US except for African Americans who see it as a protest or a connection to the lost 'homeland'.

That's what you guys always say. But as far as I'm concerned tts o.k. No problem now. Are you happy. Time will tell

darqly:
@gists- your logical inference is SKEWED! Not all muslims can be judged by the parameters of my uncle, likewise its highly improbable and very faulty to compare ONE Bologi to ALL muslims. For each life he saved, 10 were lost elsewhere. Have u ever had cause to seek refuge in a christians home?

Sorry, I don't remember saying that in any of my post. What I said is that the "area boys" killing in the north represent a minority of muslims. Sadly though their activities is what the world see.

darqly:
Have u ever had cause to seek refuge in a christians home?

Luckily for me, I have never had to live in christian dominated area. Therefore, I don't know how violent you guys can get. But some posters have alleged on this thread that christians have slaughtered muslims in the north in christian dominated areas. You might want to go back a few post to get the info and challenge them.

darqly:
I cannot foist my beliefs on you ever, but if you regularly impose your views on me VIOLENTLY, fundamentally you must have a problem. Its chilling that muslims chant allahu akbar as they commit these atrocities.

See me see wahala ye,,, I dey see danger. . .  My brother, from our short discussion so far, have I in any form tried to impose my view on you at all let alone  violently. Is this what you resort to? LEt me refresh your memory about what I said:

gists:
Again I remain on my philosophy - I have absolutely no interest in changing your perception or that of anybody. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion/believe about me/muslims/Islam right or wrong. As far as I am concerned, what you (by you I mean every single body spreading such uninformed information) it changes absolutely nothing and it matters not because we're not obliged to be apologetic or to try and please you.

Will Jesus be proud of you for this cheap blackmail? I have come across many wonderful christians, I know for sure christianity is far from what you have displayed.

darqly:
@gists- If these regular atrocities are committed by just a few adherents of your faith-RASCALS-as you labelled them, then your religion either draws the wrong type or just fails to instil the moral guidance its supposed to. I still put it to you- why don't other religions react as violently and spontaneously as islam? Still on my yoruba-muslim uncle, he hates the west(capitals of hedonism he calls them)but patronises the advances they've made in technology, health and education- why the double-talk? Do you still write on slates and stone tablets? This petty hypocrisy amuses me more than it irritates me.
@cyborg- you also read conspiracy theory 101 about 9/11? Internal job my foot, go and re-read your post and realize how gullible you are in your desperation to protect your religion even when there's overwhelming evidence proving otherwise. I leave you with one question- You pledge total belief in the koran abi? Is that verse about killing 'INFIDELS' in the koran or not? In adhering with the teachings of your prophet, do you accept KILLING as a commandent to be OBEYED in your faith? Come back when you have my answers.

Just one question: Did you do the google search I asked you? then using your words, it must also be that your religion either draws the wrong type or just fails to instill the moral guidance its supposed to Truth is all mothers religions do have them. And may I ask why would you want to label all muslims based on your uncle's personality. Rev. King is also someone's uncle you know. Do you think it will be correct to judge all christians by his way of life? Again I remain on my philosophy - I have absolutely no interest in changing your perception or that of anybody. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion/believe about me/muslims/Islam right or wrong. As far as I am concerned, what you (by you I mean every single body spreading such uninformed information) it changes absolutely nothing and it matters not because we're not obliged to be apologetic or to try and please you.

HOWEVER, I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY CONDEMN WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING THE EVIL POLITICAL KILLING IN THE NORTH.

As for the 9-11, I try not to discuss the topic. But one thing I still can't understand about Nigerian christians is the passion with which they want to convince everybody that islam is behind the attack when even NON-MUSLIM AMERICA SAID THEY HAVE AMPLE EVIDENCE TO SHOW ITS AN INSIDE JOB. Whether it is an inside job or not is not my business. However, I found the documentary made by NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC on the topic very interesting. I'm no longer in the habit of providing links when it is readily available to all humans with internet connection. Google search national geographic 911 truther (in any order)

New Voice:
Bologi's attitude is commendable. I also hid in a Muslim's house till evening of that Monday's madness; but the issue is this - the percentage of the Northern Muslims that do such things is insignificant. If all of them that condemn these acts will actually put their lives on line to stop them, we won't be talking about things like this again. On my own street, Hausa-Muslims owing a petty trader some money gathered to kill her during the riots, they almost succeeded until some 'Bologis' came to help her. Many weren't that lucky, close to same place, other Hausa-Muslims were tactically directing people to places where they were slaughtered as animals. There are good ones, but the bad ones totally overwhelmingly outnumber them. Northern leaders need do more than defending their tribe and religion, but prove it by educating their people if they are not just deceiving us by what they always say after every unrest.

God bless you for your honesty. May the good God that you serve always protect you and your family anywhere you are. Pls tell them ooo maybe they will listen to you (something tells me they won't and label you as a muslim trying to buy credibility for Islam - I don hear wehn for nairaland b4)

Eko Ile:
And who's wisdom, good judgment and foresight gave us Fashola end even Aregbeshola?

Tinubu is a dynamic leader with keen eyes for smart and credible public administrators.

It's ok for you to be stingy with your credits, just don't expects others to be like you,

Give him credit for what? I personally don't have anything against him. I tot the people voted for Fashola and Aregbesola even though the latter got some assistance to reclaim his stolen mandate. Are you saying every single thing that these guys do should be credited to Tinubu and they don't deserve the accolades themselves? That'll be very close to hero-worship

jerseyboy:
@darqly,  Islam will be virtually non-existent in the South West in 3 generations. The force of history and civilization will see to this. Islam only survives when it is protected. The S/W is open territory for competition.

Wrong again. I am a yourba muslim and I know for sure going by the rate at which the S/W muslim youths are going the future of Islam is very bright in Yoruba land.

darqly:
@tolu, you will spend infinity correcting impressions of your religion but actions speak far louder. History shows the despicable acts of muslims in northern nigeria and unless you want to claim sheer ignorance, you just can't disprove these facts. Whenever the killings want to start in Jos,we hear the ladan calling prayers @ awkward times and your adherents assemble and arm themselves before pouncing on hapless innocents.Before bukuru market was looted and burned, your mosque was the gathering point that evening btw 10-12midnite. And you're telling us your religion forbids violence ke? I don't know what variant of islam you people practice in nigeria but it sure as hell isn't the way to paradise. Have u seen the dismembered and mutilated corpses in the aftermath of each massacre organized by muslims? What drives a man to KILL a fellow being,in such a vicious manner, in the name of religion? Why don't christians or animists wake up and kill their neighbours occasionally, have u thought to ask? Forget your lame excuse about iliteracy and poverty as the root cause- I have a learned uncle that rejoiced when 9/11 occured. His teenage daughter was aghast and she's presently questioning more and more her faith in this religion and its tenets. In case you don't know, a northern muslim would sooner kill you than a christian- in jos they refer to your type as 'munafiki'- ask your hausa friends to translate. The world is slowly realizing the threat that islam portends to global peace.God bless mallam Bologi and save us from godless murderers. Alaikum salaam.

I recognise the peaceful nature of your tone. That's why I just decided to respond again but not to convince you though. Just to give a perspective (right or wrong its entirely up to you). First of all, fact is Mr. Bologi is a muslim. But what you may not believe is, his type are far more in population (i.e the majority) that the rascals that did the evil act in the north. I know this will be difficult for you to believe, but if you can just look at it from the perspective of Nigeria's image abroad. The image of Nigeria has been battered to the extent that if you are lilly-livered, you will find it hard to associate yourself with this country. However, the battered image is just the hand work of a few thousand (possibly even hundreds) out of 150million. Same thing applies to Islam. All the negative examples you setup your mind to see are just the hand work of the minority extremist and propagated by the media. The media has been known to be addicted to atrocities/war/crime etc because truth be told bad news sells. And there are extemist in every religion, only that you see the one you have conditioned your mind to see (or should I say the media have conditioned your mind to see). To prove me wrong just type any religion i.e christianity, judaism etc in google with the word atrocities/extremist etc and you'll  be supprised at what you'll see. Please ignore islamic sites in the search results because it can be said that they are just spreading lies about other faith. Just go to other non-islamic sites and read the attrocites. But does that make that religion evil? I'm sure you are wise enough to know its not true.

I'm a yoruba man, but sorry to say I don't see why Tinunbu should get the credit for what's done by Fashola and Aregbesola.

Asiwaju9ja:
1. unforgiving  2. violent 3. intolerable  4. wickedness 5. indoctrination 6. one track mindset 7. Irrational.
These are the qualities of most Muslims. Your Mai Guard will be the first to kill you. For just this comment a single Muslim that thinks he's more educated (Scholar) than the rest of them can pronounce a fatwa on somebody o! How many Muslims have commented? few. The others are angry at Mr. Bologi Period.

Wrong, the others are proud of Mr Bologi and just LAUGHING at your ignorance. We are not obliged to respond to your posts showcasing your extremely limited knowledge of Islam. We will not give energy to such negative post by responding. I only wish those trying to convince you and others like you best of luck because I know your mind is made-up about what you want to believe about Islam. Some of us have tried in vein in the past to show people like you what Islam is and have given up on you guys (I guess its not my calling to convince people, and so I've moved on).

Asiwaju9ja:
1. unforgiving  2. violent 3. intolerable  4. wickedness 5. indoctrination 6. one track mindset 7. Irrational.

Am I obliged to change your perception about me/Islam? DEFINITELY NO. This is what you want to believe about muslims abi? Let's assume your are right. Are you happy now?  

Meanwhile, there are somethings that should go in the religious section on this thread.

BetaThings:
And Rev King is not a christian; Neither is Bush ( http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110422/ap_on_re_us/us_elbaradei_memoir ), or the Pope that celebrated the St bartholomews day Massacre, or the one that participated in the Battle of Lepanto, no, the French Wars of Religion were not fought by christians
Yes, the IRA members are not christians.
The recent violence in Akwa Ibom were wrought by muslims
The man says he is a muslim and you are contradicting that behind a computer from miles away!

Most are not? Please tell me how many muslims have you personally interacted with - in school, neighbourhood, business etc

A lot of you guys have propaganda sewn tight into your brain

Pls don't mind the guy/babe. Its obvious some people will say (write) anything without thinking just to express their anti-Buhari; anti-North; anti-Muslim; anti-Islam sentiments. This one is just an exceptional case of stupidity from an individual with 1-digit I.Q

violent:
just wondering if this dude is still laughing

I think he said something like "is everything a laughing matter?"
What a clown; make him just sharap  

Kenyy:
Please tell them if my Southern Educated Illiterates would hear!

I'm sure in 4yrs time, the electorates will be more enlightened matured in electing the president (hopefully). However, let me also add that I'm not saying we should sheepishly always vote for northern candidates. For me (a yoruba man) I will vote for a credible Igbo candidate e.g Dora Akunyili (who has definately bed combination of qualification from almagiri's point of view i.e southern christian woman) if she contests against well known corruption icons e.g IBB, Atiku, Bode George, Alao Akala, Uduaghan etc.  I will vote for her as president ahead of those guys, as long as she's not contesting on PDP's platform (I don't believe PDP can produce a credible candidate - I stand to be corrected)

luckyboy1159: Am not really saying that I should have voted for BB OR Ribadu but should have relaxed at home than voting for a president that have no guts. Now this is the reason for my comments b4 any critics. Since Goodluck was emerged as the acting president, there has been break down of law in the northern parts of Nigeria ranging from bomb blasts, killings by boko haram and co, killings in Jos and so much more. In those days i thought he will make things right when he is finally elected by the people. But now is the worst. With deep sense of sorrow am writing this and tear are almost dripping my eyes that every now and then the christians and non housas will be massacad in their numbers and nothing is being done about it. If you go to kaduna and it environs now you will see dead bodies everywhere. According to CAN they are yet to figure out how many they are in number but injured ones are in their thousands. What a world!!!. The next thing GEJ Did was to sack the interior minister. When OBJ was the president was it the interior minister that sent military men to river state when things seems to get out of hands and ordered them to shoot at site those involved in the unrest, was it the interior minister that sent the military to Udi and ordered them to shoot at sight those involved. And other places like Bayesa, onisha in the case of massob. And other places. Mr president is so weak. Been afraid of what the northern godfathers will say if he takes any decisive action. I only pray that God shall one day revenge.

I voted for BB for just two purposes:

1) To stop fraud which in my opinion constitute 95% of Nigeria's problem
2) To stop the perennial killing in the north which in my opinion is tied to fraud (for me poverty/joblessness can't be separated from fraud)

It was obvious that GEJ can't do much about this two-point agenda going but his track record as deputy/governor in Bayelsa and acting/president of Nigeria. In my opinion, he is just business as usual for PDP and only those close to him and almost notthing for the general public for the next 4yrs (but I sincerely  hope he proves me wrong for the sake of the country). Even if he wants to stop the killings he will be very careful not to step on some toes in the north. We need someone who doesn't care whose horse is gored (Like the way Yar'adua gave a standing order on boko haram and traveled out of the country not caring about their god-fathers.) and like you rightly said about OBJ.

So my friend next time pls don't stay away from the polls because in Nigeria, the ballot paper you ought to have used will be used anyway by some crazy people on your behalf to bring in another candidate (I suspect that what happen with the unusually high turnout in SS and SE). And PLEASE NEVER AGAIN VOTE ON THE BASIS OF TRIBE OR RELIGION (PEOPLE GET KILLED WHEN WE DO THAT).

My believe is that their is nothing God cannot do, but there many things He will not do (especially when He gave us the opportunity to do it ourself)

klas:
While commending the collaboration and dedication to democracy by the Chairman of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC), Prof. Attahiru Jega, civil societies and any other people in government, the statement said: “They provided a real opportunity for the Nigerian people to select their most senior leaders.

Why did she use the word SELECT rather than ELECT? Was she trying to pass a message across or am I just reading meaning to that statement?

ekt_bear:
They know it was rigged, but don't care. Or at least, not enough to interfere/withdraw their approval of the outcome.

Unfortunate and might seem unfair, but that is life. They have no incentive to stick their neck out.

The U.S have been known to speak with both sides of their mouth. One minute they say this, the next minute something completely opposite depending on where their interest lies. And they intelligently/subliminally say so that they only care about their interest with statements like "in American best interest" and in most cases not necessarily because they really care about justice. That's why they support rebels in Libya and keep mute on the Bahrain crisis and seem confused on Syria and Yemen. Fact is that they do have stakes/interest in the Niger Delta, where they need peace to keep the oil flowing. So in American's best interest, her diplomacy is understandable.

dazangel11:
Abacha n Mariam went into Aso Rock, Only Mariam came out. Obasanjo went in with Stella,only Obasanjo came out. Yaradua went in with Turai, only Turai came out, so Jonathan! Jonathan! Jonathan!!! Hmmmmm. I wish u Goodluck

PLEASE OOOOO, we've been exercising patience for a long time. It will be a major disaster of mammoth proportion is we lose our PATIENCE now (GOD FORBID).

Dav.e:
^^^

I'm not denying nor confirming the child-voter allegation, but if you have ever done photo/picture editing, it will not be difficult to find that these pictures are products of someone's computing creativity with photo-editing softwares. If the story is true (andI suspect its true because of inec scroll message on NTA), however, nobody has till date come up with concrete evidence that the child voters voted for cpc. They COULD have been recruited by the well established pdp rigging machinery.

phraoh:
Some of you talk Nonsense on this thread like the GISTS guy who said he saw his thumb-printed[b] NASS ballot paper on PRESIDENTIAL election day even when he didnt come for the NASS election[/b],i wonder if he is an INEC official or a CORPER PRESIDING OFFICER to have seen it.Arant nonsense.He also said that he was sure that it was the PDP that did that,WHAT KINDDA ASSUMPTION IS THAT,what if it was one of the other parties that did it.NIGERIAN POLITICIANS ARE ONE OF THE RARE OPTIMISTS I HAVE SEEN IN POLITICS,EVEN WHEN THE ODDS ARE AGAINST SOMEBODY,HE/SHE STILL HAS CONFIDENCE OF WINNING.WHEN HE/SHE LOOSES,HE CRYS THAT HE HAS BEEN RIGGED OUT.mscweeew

You seem to write good English. But I'm surprised you can't understand simple statement. If a post is not clear to you, its better to ask the poster to explain what he/she means rather than showing your limited ability to comprehend simple statements in public places. I did not say I saw the ballot paper and I am certainly not an inec official nor a corp member.

This is what I said: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=649594.msg8158675#msg8158675

I didn't go 4 d senatorial poll because I don't blive in any of the candidate of all the parties. But I voted in this presidential polls and was[b] I was rudely shocked to see that the check-box for the NASS polls against my name was ticked. Meaning that someone had thumb-printed in my name for one of d candidates[/b] (my guess is PDP is d culprit, which is the party that swept all the seats in my area).

Everybody that voted was first accredited using the voters' register. On that register, there are check-boxes for NASS, Presidential and Gov. poll against every eligible voter on the register. Each check-box is ticked after you are given the ballot paper. You probably didn't vote or just not observant enough. Next time pls just ask for clarification rather than making a fool of yourself.

Finally, I also said (based on the results of the NASS polls) that my guess is PDP is the culprit. The word "GUESS" does not confirm it was PDP. But their is evidence to show multiple thumb-print of ballot paper either for those that didn't come for the election or to substitute the ballot paper of those that voted for the "unwanted" candidates of other parties

Zapence:
i guess (massive) under-aged voting ain't cheating to you.

Of course I agree completely it is cheating if its true. But my question to you is; can u confirm d (massive) under-aged voting was for cpc or u just want to bliv that because it happened in the north. Who told you pdp couldn't have pulled that stunt? Look at it like this: GEJ is a xtian southerner. A popular notion is that d northern muslims will not vote 4 him right? It is said that Sambo even lost in his state. But he (GEJ) miraculously got more than d required 25% in practically all of d northern states. I will not be surprised if the well-oiled pdp rigging machinery was put to recruit the alleged under-age voters and that explains how he met the requirement. (the theory sounds more logical going by the antecedents of the POVERTY DEVELOPMENT PARTY PDP)

wendytilda:
OMgosh! Dude, first of all that video is about senatorial election, not presidential (and how genuine is the video?!)  Second of all, almost every Nigerian I know and the people they know, (I’m Ibo BTW) pretty much only talked about and voted for GEJ (It’s not even about PDP)and even international observers, who are good at concentrating on and bringing out negativity in Nigeria agree/saw that the election was free and fair, so save your breath cause there is no way you could ever convince people otherwise!
If anything, seeing  from this evidence http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/04/17/purefoy.nigeria.election.split.cnn?iref=allsearch  there was underage voting in the North!

This is a very narrow thinking. I know the video was on the senatorial election. But what makes you think the same thing didn't happen in the presidential election. But the video didn't confirm if PDP was the evil one. Neither is their anything that confirms the under-age voting in the north were for cpc. The essence is the show that the election was marred with fraud whether it is multiple thumb-printing of ballot papers or the under-aged voting.

wendytilda:
and even international observers, who are good at concentrating on and bringing out negativity in Nigeria agree/saw that the election was free and fair, so save your breath cause there is no way you could ever convince people otherwise!
If anything, seeing  from this evidence http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/04/17/purefoy.nigeria.election.split.cnn?iref=allsearch  there was underage voting in the North!

You are quick to say the election was free and fair because our brother is the beneficiary of this fraud (I'm a southerner -yourba but I'll say the truth for the sake of posterity) and even feel proud that the int'l observers confirms it yet you say there were under aged voters in the north confirming only one part of the fraud (which could have been for CPC or PDP after-all PDP got the required 25% in the north where they were not expected to. Nobody knows whether this is not how they got it.). Doesn't that sound like you are talking from two sides of the mouth? I don't intend to convince anybody because around the world have been known to dance to popular tunes.

Sagamite:
I never said there was no electoral rigging in SS and SE, so you really do not need to show me the video.

I said, it was not significant enough to alter the final results.

The reality is that, the ABSOLUTE maximum Buhari could have got in those regions is about 15%.

If he can't get 10% votes in SW where there are muslims and lower GEJ/PDP support, what do you expect him to pull in a place that hates muslims, is PDP current homebase and the home region of GEJ?

Honestly, the rigging in SS and SE is really less consequential than the age-fraud that favoured Buhari. So I can't see Buhari's argument.

I think both should be dealt with, but I think the age-fraud was more of a serious issue in the elections.

And come on, don't go down this line of North having the population to pull such registration numbers. That is fighting logic.

It is IMPOSSIBLE register 100% of eligible voters ANYWHERE in the world. Not even America.

The video i shared didn't confirm anything in my opinion. It only showed the election was marred with fraud not free and fare as everybody want to bliv. WE CANNOT CONCLUDE FROM THE CLIP WHICH OF THE PARTIES WAS BEHIND THE FRAUD AND SAME GOES FOR THE UNDER-AGED VOTING (you can't convince me they were cpc supporters)!!

And to say that you "think the age-fraud was more of a serious issue in the elections" shows how biased, hypocritical and unfair you are to Nigeria . Imagine peoples' votes being shredded and one silly woman thumb prints for a whole polling unit. This in your opinion is a less serious issue right?

My point for the last time is as long as we tend to sweep away any act of fraud (no matter how small it may seem) today because it favors us, then people will continue to die (I pray non of your relative is among the victims) and be rest assured its going to HURT us big in future.

I'm not concerned about why BB/cpc lost that's in the past. I'm interested in moving Nigeria forward but concerned we still can't conduct a fraud-free election (the election was peaceful though which is a step forward anyway)

Sagamite:
Stop fooling yourself!

The North DO NOT have enough adults to produce the level of registered voters. FACT! The fact that observers did not say anything as it is the destined loser does not change that fact.

Rigging by any party should be condemned but it is funny a party is only condemning the one that does not favour it but ignores the one that does MASSIVELY. The same one that does not favour it, even if rectified will still mean he would lose even if his favouring electoral fraud is not rectified.

He lost when he did not perfom in the SW an NC. Simple.

You sound like you are taking this personal. Nigeria will be better if we channel such passions as yours to the real issues as opposed to hatred WE (i.e Nigerians, not you only) dish out at each other.

I'm not discussing why or how he lost. I'm trying to be fair for the sake of d future when we will be paid dearly with our own coins. And u re so sure the north does not have the adult population as valid/eligible voters. This is not only an insult to the north (I'm a yoruba man mind you) it is also not inline with Nigeria's demographic stats.

Personally, I don't attach much importance to the observers' view of the election because they will only comment on what they see. They usually dont get to see scenes like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5JSE1YrCs or is it that they just mischievously decide to turn a blind eye (just as they seemed to have done to the under-aged voters)

Sagamite:
No doubt.

I agree.

But it is really lame for Buhari to claim cheating when he benefited from circa 5m votes from illegible voters. (i.e. assuming only 50% of the core North, were the age cheating took place, voted for him and 50% for the other 3)

He can't complain about supposed vote rigging which was not significant enough for observers to shout, but yet ignore the blatant cheating of 10m hyper-unscrupulous voting by kids.

Even if 15% (which is the absolute maximum that will vote for him in the SE and SS) were taken from GEJ and given to him but his 5m+ fraudulent votes were subtracted, he would still lose. WITH A WIDER MARGIN as his 15% will not come up to 5m!

He should face it, he lost because he did not get the right number of votes in SW (where there was no rigging) and did not dominate in the North and Middlebelt (where there was no rigging except the voter registration fraud).

If he had been competitive in the SW, he would have had a chance.

And it must also be that the 10m voting kids was also not significant enough for the observers to shout as well. Or were they blind to this anormally? This is understandable anyway since GEJ and co didn't complain of under aged registering and obviously did nothing about it so why should d observers? (they must have had their game plan all along). And what makes u conclude that the alleged under-aged voter voted 4 cpc. Who says pdp can't pull off this unholy act as they have been known for all these years.

Every party has`d right to complain (PEACEFULLY) if it feels cheated. Rigging by whichever party should be condemned no matter how insignificant it may be perceived. Its dangerous to sweep it under d carpet today simply because it favours your candidate because of d day you will be on the other side.

IN ALL D ELECTION HAS BEEN WON AND LOST AND NIGERIA SHOULD MOVE ON EVEN IF THEY WILL CONTEST THE RESULT IN COURT.

Sagamite:
And I have documented it with simple statistics.

It is impossible for all people eligible to vote in an advanced country to be registered. I don't see how that will be possible in a fifth world country.

Only 150,000 of the 428,000 eligible to vote (38%) in Djibouti registered to vote in their election in this same month of April, but in North of Nigeria (where illiteracy, rurality and inaccessibility is most embedded) we are seeing over 110% eligible voter registration.

Utter fraud!

Use this same logic and it should not be hard to see the utter fraud on the claim that close too 100% of registered voters miraculously showed up for the polls in SS and SE. I don't mind gej or anyone bring the president (as long as he wins cleanly and with integrity), but he and pdp should not insult our intelligence.

intrepid:
Nigerians now have the proof that they too can have an election where the votes count.It does not really matter what percieved errors or shortcomings that cropped up;the main point is that for once,we are being acclaimed as having got it right both home and abroad.

Nigerians voted for GEJ,and not PDP.This same feat would have been perfomed still had he been in another party.PDP did well by not allowing the issue of zoning to take its full cause,else i think it would have been the final requiem for the party.

Have you seen this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5JSE1YrCs are proud of the manner (from the video) your president was elected?
I don't mind having gej nor anybody as d president as long as that individual was fairly elected by the people as opposed to the fraudulent method as seen in the video.

beeke:
You see my good friend even as of then 1992 election d north would have opposed in d strongest terms the candidature of a two Christian to rule our nation even right from d SDP primaries they will make sure they dont emerge as d flag bearer.

wen you talk about nepotism, tribalism and religious fanaticism the northern Nigeria are second to none. and that is the fact

Like I said MAYBE NOT NOW (as in today's reality) and also you forget the fact that I mentioned earlier - the president's sit is the elective position not the v.p. If they voted for obj and gej both xtians. The v.p as far as I am concerned is not an elective but more like an appointment position  (did the people of Nigeria vote for Sambe when Ya'radua died?) and can be replace through well defined procedure. So the religion/tribe does not "totally" factor in. If not for the political doggedness of Atiku, OBJ would have successfully yank him off and replace him with another person probably a northern xtian AND I DARE SAY NOTHING THE NORTH COULD HAVE DONE. From my limited knowledge of the constitution, their is no place for all these religious craps (except the federal character BULL- S H I T).

From your highlighted choice of words, nobody really knows what could have happened, but the fact is that election still stand till today as the freest and fairest in Nigeria (GEJ election was just a peaceful one) and we all agree everybody voted not on the basis of religion or tribe.

Let's even agree for the moment that Nigeria splits, my question is "AND THEN WHAT?" so that the IFEs and MODAKEKEs can resume their age long petty land disputes in SW, same goes for IJAWs and the ILAJEs, etc etc Splitting Nigeria may look fashionable on paper but I doubt we all won't be the worse for it thereafter.

solomonwal:
He is a bad loser. What gave him the assurance that he is going to win. He should accept the result in good faith. If he is interested in serving the nation as he made us to believe, he should put himself at the disposal of the elected president for the service of the nation. I think CPC have hidden agender and all Nigerians should reject the party in the governorship election.

If he is a bad loser, why is he not contesting SW results? If he is going to lose fine, someone must definitely lose. But to cheat is what is not allowed.

beeke:
Abiola election was proclaimed to be free and fare but my question to you is: if Abiola were to be a Christian and his deputy a Christian do you think d north could have voted for them?
but regardless of the facts that the two were muslims the majority Christian south turned out en mass to vote for them, so tell me who among the sides that are filled with tribalism and religious bigots

I think they would have voted for them just as they voted for obj and now gej (amid exchanges of ghana-must-go this time around). Maybe not now that the religious polarity is much more pronounced. Remember, the president is the one they are voting for not the vp. yet gej got more than the required 25% in most of the north

beeke:
WILL YOU SHUT UP YOUR MOUTH, SO YOU LEFT WITH YOUR LIFE INTACT AND YOU EXPECT A CHANGE ARE YOU NOT AWARE THAT CHANGES DONT COME CHEAP, COS IF YOU BELIEVE IN CHANGE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LAY DOWN YOUR LIFE FOR IT IF YOU CLAIM TO LOVE NIGERIA THEN BE READY AT ALL TIME TO PUT YOUR LIFE FORWARD BEFORE NIGERIA.

Thank you very much mr adviser. Your profile says you are from PH. I'm sure you are aware your Governor intends to (may have even done it self) put your state in debt in form of a bank loan on the grounds that the he doesn't want to tamper with the money he is saving for the state. Since you are wise enough to give advise, I'm sure you are also smart enough to know that interest rates on bank loans far out-weighs that of savings.Its just simple logic. Now if you love your state you should be ready to do anything (including laying down your life) to stop the man that want to (or that has already) throw you and your children and your grand children to decades of poverty.

Just out of curiousity, when will Nigerians start voting purely on basis of merits/performance as opposed to tribal/ethnic/religious grounds. I'm a pure yoruba man and I certainly wasn't looking to get my pound of flesh for JUNE 12 (that was about 18yrs ago, I'm determined not to live perpetually in the past). Similarly, I wasn't looking for power shift to the south and I certainly didn't vote on religion basis. All I want is to solve 95% of Nigeria's problem (CORRUPTION) and the perennial killings in the North (JOS inclusive) by voting the candidate that in my opinion has the capacity to deliver these two-point agenda.

N.B: To all those that bliv the north just want their son in power. While this might be true to some extent, can anyone tell me the rational behind the northerners voting GEJ ahead of their son Atiku during the primaries (Remember they also voted Abiola ahead of Tofa in 1993). It appears from my poor knowledge of history that we the southerners are the actual tribalistic ones. We have never voted for a northerner ahead of our son. We'll rather rig to make sure our son wins the polls.

hbrednic:
I am very sorry if i have offended you anyway,but pls desist from calling the president an empty head.( u know he is a family man ).one love

No wahala. No need for any cyber fight, at least its not worth it for any politician GEJ or Buhari. AND I APOLOGIZE TO ALL NIGERIANS FOR THE FOUL LANGUAGE ON THE PRESIDENT ELECT.
LONG LIVE NIGERIA

goggs:
Full disclosure: I didnt vote Goodluck

CPC lost because their campaign was seriously flawed. I supported the party but to my chagrin;
(i) They concentrated in their area of strength (NE,NW) and
(ii) neglected areas that more efforts should have gone to (NC, SW) and
(iii) refused to make serious concessions to other areas likely to be hostile to their ambition (SS,SE)

The result; Buhari was the hero in the NW and NE, but a nobody in the SS, SE and regarded in passing in NC, SW

I supported/voted for Buhari too. But in my opinion (GEJ supporters should know that I am entitled to my opinion) CPC lost because of rigging. Maybe PDP didn't have to rig in SW. But they did in SS and I'm tempeted to say they rigged in SE as well. If PDP could magically produce someone to vote in my name and use my vote because I didn't go 4 d for NASS polls. Its hard to beliv that they didn't do the same for the presidential polls for people that didn't go for the polls. I dare say that going by what they did to me in NASS polls, they also did for millions of others that didn't go for the presidential polls.

somze:
ACN got more votes than CPC in most of the South South and South East except in Anambra, Enugu and Cross River. I believe these are the states CPC has a problem with. Even if you remove these states and Rivers State, Goodluck still wins the election. So once again just what this noise is about is beyond me.

ACN is not a real treath in SS and SE to PDP so they don't have to perform any majic in ACN's direction.

Having said that I think Nigeria should move on with GEJ except CPC wants to contest the result in the court.

Thatdave:
clueless GEJ beat cluefilled buhari!

Yeap!! thanks to the master riggers. Read my personal experience a few post back and it will give you a glimpse of how they did it. 12yrs of acts of rigging no be joke

hbrednic:
whatever you have is your fu-cking business.sore irritating bad loser  

Who is d bad loser here? did I ever curse you? why did you such bad language on me? All I have said is my personal experience on the polls and hard fact. Well, its obvious the facts/truth is just too much for you to handle. Go in peace.

hbrednic:
DONT SAY WE.you are in a sinking boat alone,sorry i cant help you.
My own Nigeria is cruising progressively to the promise land and yes GEJ is the captain.

Yes cruising,  Just like the Titanic. And by the way I never asked for your help, I can swim and thank God I have my personal life raft (if you know what that is)