₦airaland Forum

pedrilo:
go and check 2015 election result, we dnt need majority of northern votes, once we get a handful from the three geopolitical zones in the north, plus majority votes from SS/SE, plus ekiti, we are good to go!

Thank God you are facing reality now but ekiti can't give you enough votes to do the magic. You still need to get more votes from the SW to do it and that's where the problem lies again, majority of South westerners just like northerners won't vote for northerner with a running mate from the SE.

Me think the pdp chairmanship going to the SS is a ploy to give The SW the VP slot [the Fayose connection], reason I said the SE will be played again. An APC northern candidate with a running mate gain from the SW will edge it against a PDP northern candidate with a running mate from the SE. Think about it.

bounty007:
just as you guys..after rejecting buhari for four times with his igbo vice..

automatic fell in love..when osinbajo came.. with your hatred against Gej n igbo's.


falling in love is a natural thing.. it comes and goes..

guess we're in love now.

but are they in love with you? Answer is No, mark my words you guys are in for a huge shock and you will blame the yorubas again.

bounty007:
but their northern vote with a vice from the east..
beat your great Awolowo.. who already have been a Vice/ minister of finnace.

keep dreaming.. 2019 will open all this afon cretins little political brain.

ok all of a sudden the northerners are now your beautiful bride after throwing all the insults and calling them all sort of names. You guys suddenly love the fulanis because of you want to come into aso rock thru the backdoor. They are no longer killing you again and destroying your farms.

Interesting!

pedrilo:
wait a minute, u guys from SW tink too much of urselves pls! the SS/SE is already PDP, a strong northern presidential candidate will divide northern votes unlike 2015 where Buhari floored GEJ in the north, ur SW vote plus a divided northern vote cannot do the magic this time around. cheers

majority of northerners will never vote for a northerner candidate with a running mate from the SE, take that to the bank.

The SE will be played again in 2019 and more cries of marginalization will follow.

anonimi:
Very mighty indeed.
That is why the All Poverty Congress, APC zombies did propaganda of barawo bubu's daughter married to an Igbo christian in 2015. Not so
Thankfully the internet never forgets.
What a deceptive bunch!








https://newafricanmagazine.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Screen-Shot-2015-05-07-at-11.11.48.png

is pdp that is not deceptive right? your photos still can't save the pdp

pedrilo:
A chairman cannot emanate from a region where the party doesnt have strength
if the chairman of a party cannot deliver his region to the party, he surely will not have the effrontery to ask other NWC member to do same and this will affect the party's fortune at the polls.
SW should first demonstrate that they are united b4 seeking to lead the unity of our party
If you live an unhappy life as a single man, getting married to a woman will not automatically bring happiness into ur life, u need to fix ur life first!
SW pls put ur house in order first, PDP chairmanship position will not fix ur internal regional rancor

Ok o, by the time PDP will loose again in 2019, hope Tinubu and the SW will not be blamed again

Billyonaire:
Every supporters of Buhari are now manufacturing excuses for their ancient stupidity. Billyonaire's principle is known. Any candidate I support whether he wins election or not, has always been the best option available on the ballot.

I supported Jonathan and now I am supporting Atiku. Those who are interested in the future need to support those who have a future, and not some relic of the past who regurgitate memory of bestial history as a panacea for tomorrow's evolution.

Tomorrow is a product of today's imagination.

I see real changes.

Let's Atikulate our future and Buharize our past.

so atiku is the future at over 70? chai

Jaymaxxy:
The same Igbos who warned us not to be slaves to Hausa fulanis are now rooting for Atiku. Is our God not a wonderful God?

Truly He is the Almighty God

Bolustical:
GTBANK has made banking more convenient for me.

I love the bank.

But they should work on their staff temperaments.

dem be contract staff earning peanuts hence the bad temperament.

raumdeuter:
Attache by force. Attach to Atiku, attach to SS attach to Israel

[b]Why is it always SE who struggles to attach themselves to anyone and everyone. Is it because they know how inconsequential they ar[/b]e

They have no identity, smple

firstjoe:
Political calculation

Fayose will settle for Vice-President

you guys want to make the SE cry again and blame the SW for their woes? count me out o

yarimo:
Kikikiki how many people are in Bayelsa state? That is how PDP scam GEJ in 2015

abeg make una no wound with laugh o

Keneking:
Atiku effect

shuo, for this one again!

onatisi:
they have to present their candidate ,honestly if buhari is presented again then apc has a very very very slim chance . in the next couple of weeks , most likely by February , ppl will start moving from one party to another .

Exactly, so we would aslo see movements from pdp into apc or you think the outcome of the pdp convention will be favourable to everyone?APC may not produce their candidate until PDP present theirs even atiku may not be pdp candidate at the end of the day. Politics is also like biscuit, you don't know where it will crack. It's still early days

Amaechi may just be heading back to the PDP and he will be warmly welcomed back even after all the abuses Nigerians mumu sha

onatisi:
forget those shouting on nairaland , when the ticket is won and that is if he wins it . his foot soldiers will move into town . this is politics , every party does it . we saw how apc invaded niraland before 2015 and the social media . i like atiku and sincerely speaking i think he lost his best chance in 2015 but lets see what will happen again

and you think APC too will fold their hand abi?

safarigirl:
how many CFs did Spain use on their road to the World Cup in 2010?

I think the problem most people insisting on two CFs are having is that they have not left football of the 90's and they still think football teams need CFs.

They are called Forwards these days...and the term is all encompassing for whoever is in front. So, whether it's a winger, a striker or a false 9....they are forwards and their job is to score goals.

We have Iwobi, Iheanacho, Moses x2, Ighalo, Musa in that role already. We have one CF and he does not even have the goal scoring records of the none CFs, so, what is all this noise about?

Even the Croatian coach in that news article stated clearly that our attack is VERY VERY dangerous....without the CFs you people are insisting on. Is that not what we need?

What will ANOTHER CF bring that we don't already have?

I had mentioned this before in one of my posts, the players you have mentioned have lots of goals in them. with the one touch play that the eagles are beginning to perfect now, even our defenders will score. football has evolved, apart from the croatian coach, even messi is worried and insisting that higuain must be back to their squad. our forward line presently is deadly, not many defences can cope with the speed of a moses on the right and iwobi on the left before you you even talk of the other players.

Alphanancy:
You dont get it. They plan to get the VP from the SW.

so the SE will be played again? hmm na wa o!

The kind of discourse on that twitter page is what we should be seeing on nairaland

Icon4s:
Bro, this one is as clear as day and night. Ogbeche CANNOT become the Eagles captain if he returns. No controversy about this.

And captaincy is not just about giving instructions to the other players.

ok i hear, but we don't want older players than mikel in this team, enough said.

Mujtahida:
This is a serious matter ooo because one bad egg is all it takes to spoil so much good work. Aimee Jacquet dropped the excellent Ginola and superb Cantona and built his WC winning team around a young Zidane. We all remember the problems Anelka caused Dominech and Balotelli fighting with Mancini. This is a strong point oo. Being a good footballer is not enough.

these players have got issues, not all coaches can cope with their idiosyncrasies so prevention is better than cure, case in point conte felt he had enough of costa so he let him go simple.

Icon4s:
So are we saying that if Ogbeche makes the team he becomes the captain?

that is why he can't be invited o, cos he can't take instruction from those junior to him. Let's stop all these theories for Christ sake, seniority is a big issue in Africa and remember that the level of academic education of some of our players are low so there are issues. dem no be oyinbo at all that can call their papa by name. Let's be frank o!

Remember the crisis in the Ghanaian team many years ago due to the superiority contest btw yeboah and abedi pele! somethings are better avoided to keep your team intact. These players are not angels as we think sometimes

komekn:
Consider how you are thinking and rationalising motivation and determination.

Using your sense of reasoning that means Ronaldo, Messi and Danny Alves after achieving everything they are no longer motivated for excellence.

Furthermore that the main determinant of hunger motivation and desire to win is being young. That's waste basket reasoning. Isaac Success had a little money and what happened to his desire to win and succeed

Those are nonsensical propositions with no substance what so ever.

your comparison has no basis, most african players are generally known not to be hungry for success for their national teams after making fame and money. case in point, the average Cameroonian still feels samuel eto after all his huge success at club level never contributed much to the national team. With all the fame abaumeyang[sorry for my spelling error], what has he offered the Gabonese national team? Even the great drogba under performed for ivory coast and never won any trophy for them so what are you saying?

Comparing martins to messi and ronaldo. Jesus Christ! Now this ain't funny any more. You talking academically and not reality bruv

Mujtahida:
There's nothing more delicate for us to guide than the team spirit. We can fail tactically on the pitch and still win matches but if we fail in maintaining the team spirit we will achieve nothing even if we have Gaurdiola as our coach. France in 2010 WC, Italy in Euro 2008, Ghana, Nigeria and Cameroun have suffered from disaffection that destroys harmony in the team. We cannot afford to make that mistake again.
That being said does Martins have a record of insubordination like the rest you have mentioned?
I feel Rohr will invite him to assuage his supporters but still drop him for the final cut. But question is what if he performs well?

Martins got issues with Eguavoen for failing to turn up for a particular tie if I remember well. Truth is the coaches and the nff still knows this players more than us on this forum, the fact that we hardly hear in in the media does not mean stuff don't happen in the team off the pitch even wikipedia has it on record where martins failed to turn up for some matches despite being invited. Some off the pitch issues in the past with nff officials especially in a match against Namibia if I remember is one major reason no nff official will want Enyeama near the eagles ahain and even enyeama himself knows this.

I still insist that any player older than mikel both in age, in long serving in the national team and not part of the wcq should be left out for now.

Icon4s:
Martins came in before Mikel. But Mikel has stayed longest in the team by virtue of his number of appearances.

Martins has been on and off.

But also Ogbeche came in before Enyeama and if Ogbeche makes the team who would you say is more Senior between him and Enyeama?

ok so martins senior mikel be that sefini, ogbeche senior enyeama be that. In Nigeria, in work places especially the civil service under which structure the eagles is being managed, seniority is by who go into the service earlier. Simple

forgiveness:
According to your assertion Onyekuru failed to deliver but why do you still want him in the team?

he's still young, I can tolerate him but not martins,

Icon4s:
Are you sure he didn't imply oldest by age?

Goke7 oya come clear the air here.

oh sorry I don't know that this was a bone of contention, I simply mean a player who came into the Eagles fold earlier, looks like both martins and mikel came in same time if I remember right? so based on that can we say who is actually more senior?

forgiveness:
Iheanacho flopped big time in his first two games for the SE and several times as a CF. Why you no want talk about this truth? Oh! The truth is bitter.

Iheanacho as a young player can still be pardoned but not a player of martins status. Why? Iheanacho still has a lot of years to play for the Eagles but not martins who is close to retirement. we can't afford a trial and error with martins for now when we have hungry younger players who are looking for just 10 mins, how much chance have we given to the likes of kayode and onyekuru before we talk about martins. You've been crying out for the likes of Kayode nah

komekn:
That's not a measure of success and the basis for exclusion.

You consider it from another perspective if we were running without him if he had been in the team be would have been flying. Imagine the SE with him not without him and how much better he could be.

so how much has the team been better with martins in recent times. A great player brings so much value to the team like we see an experienced mikel whenever he plays. The Eagles have now qualified for the wcq and suddenly we remember we can be better with a martins. Doesn't work like that bruv. It took just 45 mins for us to know how much value ebuehi and an idowu can bring to a team, martins was handed same chance in the recent past[when in mls and even in china] and he failed to deliver yet we keep insisting he should be recalled on the basis of his exploits back in milan and newscastle. Am sorry it's not working for me.

SerVik:
Like somebody said, it is better for these young players to be average than for the old ones. The average performances of this young stars will serve as valuable experience for the future. What future do we have with someone like Martins?

help me ask them o! I don tire!

SerVik:
Here you go again. Stop living on past glory, this is the same way you've been embarrassing yourself with Alampasu's clean sheet against Porto 2years ago now it's uche's top scorer award in 2010. Uche was invited in 2014 for nations cup qualifiers, he did nothing special. Against congo he scored from the penalty spot, he did not win the penalty, emenike did. Against south Africa, we needed Sone Aluko's brilliance to earn a draw, again ike uche was on the pitch, nothing special. Truth is we have a special spot for certain players and when those players don't live up to expectations, we try to find certain excuses, just as you are using injury as an excuse to justify haruna's atrocious performance. Was haruna certified fit or not for the game? That haruna's performance was one of the worst performances I have ever seen from a professional. Injury or not, he flopped.

Finito

This is my major headache on this forum, other players are blamed for favourite players' flop and its not getting funny anymore

Kog45:
Gok man good you said culture which mean we have imbibed it but not written rules.

The captain of a team can only be decided by a coach, comes tomorrow if Rohr said Mikel is no longer the captain that's it.Remember old Musa was removed as vice captain for younger Onazi,mind you Echiejele is still in the team

When Rohr was appointed the first thing he said was Mikel remain my captain just to set the record straight that am not ready to appoint another captain.

Let's go down to memory lane a bit on eagles captain,hope you still remember afcon 1984 Muda Lawal was the oldest with 4 afcon appearance but young Keshi was the captain.

Paul Hamilton made Andrew Uwe his captain at the despite having older players like Peter Rufai, Henry Nwosu,Ademola Adeshina even when Keshi came back fully during afcon and Olympics qualifiers in 1987,Andrew Uwe was still the captain

Hope you remember how Alloy Agu captain the team during early Westerhoff era with the presence of Ademola Adeshina,Andrew Uwe,Rasheed Yekini.

There was never a time Enyeama captain Eagles with the presence of Joseph Yobo in camp.Enyeama only captain the team on the field if Yobo find himself on the bench and this happened at Afcon 2013,this made Enyeama to handover captain band to him in the final to collect the cup.

The same scenario played itself at Tunisia 94 when Austin Eguavoen handed over captain band to Keshi after final game to collect the cup.

Remember Sunday Olishe was made the captain at the expense of older Finidi George 2000-2002 and no issue on it.

It was only Chuckwu(1980)Keshi(1990-1994)Austin Okocha(2002-2006)Kanu (2006-2010)Yobo(2010-2014)Enyeama (2014-2016)now Mikel, these are the beneficiaries of oldest being the captain.

My man it all depends on coaches decision cos a lot of things are put into consideration before a captain of the team is chosen.

Great post but @the bolded, this is what has made it a precedence in the team and we know how Musa being made captain by Oliseh unsettled things. This was what rohr noticed that made him stick with Mikel. Even in other national teams in the world, we see how the captain band issue can be a problem among senior players from Germany to Ghana, it can be very sensitive.