₦airaland Forum

Etrusen:
it means that pH is among for it to be referred to as a state like u said "it was in nairaland that u knew that pH is in Rivers" because that's the essence of the topic


so b4 coming nairaland if u what ask what is pH ?
u will say it is a state.

so that's what the topic is all about.

Ooh my bad

Lol, Portharcourt should be there

Etrusen:
you are absolutely right

what baffles is that the federal government will still be calling the sultan for traditional meeting and affairs rather than their islamic affair

the Yoruba's are gradually keying into the northern system thereby leaving their ancestry and lowering themselves (the kings) to the sultan. it all started from Ilorin then to Oyo now coming all through osun and the others.

When i keep telling the yorubas are traitors to the south and fulltime cowards they call it hatespeech and even banned me for airing the truth, if i was Yoruba i will keep pointing to my fellow kingsmen how they are cowards.....

I bet the population of yoruba Muslim in the west before 1914 wasnt more 5 million but after the creation of nigeria there was rapid increase of muslim convert for quick political gains....


Anyway the southern is a king and a religious leader if we wont call him king then some traditional rulers like ife, the various kings in lagos apart from oba of Lagos and the igwes in the east wouldn't also be regarded as king if we can allow that then sultan is a king and a religious leader

Etrusen:
what about ph

He nor join most people identify the state as Portharcourt, na nairaland make me know am as rivers self

When you mention rivers over here, they mistake it as cross river

Benin
Ibadan
Calabar
Warri

The rest na gara

N3cR0mAZc3R:
See this fool. Who cares whether your a yoruba or not.

I don't know why you guys can't get a good night sleep without always trying to bash the yorubas ehn.

Bunch of fools.

Bunch of cowards,

GarangDeMabior:
that's why I say bini and yoruba na same thing.

You can hardly differentiate a bini man from a yoruba man

You guys are something else, if i ever be half yoruba i would be so shy to air it publicly

Tribes of coward, and inborn slaves to d fulanis

I only said that to pull a stunt on that guy

Am a full blooded benin.... An i also pray to take upon a bini lady,.....

So my family will take years before another tribe will dilute it,

AreaFada2:
Oh you are partly Yoruba too.
.

haha

N3cR0mAZc3R:
Your not even a yoruba yet wants to decide which yoruba king should come first. Smh

I don't really care anymore about who comes first in the list but please and please just remove oba of bini from that list cause he's no yoruba Monarchy.

My mom is yoruba from ondo so i also have a say

N3cR0mAZc3R:
How do you even know that am from kwara state bro?
Am definitely more yoruba than you of you don't know.

Why should it be only ife and benin who should be having conversation here when obas from various other yoruba regions seems to be listed in the OP?

Once again oba of bini is not a yoruba king and can't be the first on the list.
The op needs to understand this.

Am the op, and am benin, did you read my bolded

If oba of benin is removed fron the list then the number one should be alafin for me and not ooni

Etinosa123456:
See tears... She's unable to prove that Deji osupa wasn't removed

Does that mean you accept that Benin conquered Akure and installed a new Deji

Lol calm down small


Please biko leave her alone you don do collateral damage to her, pardon her she ought to be on a research isolation right now, on the evidence i asked her to bring, if you keep doing this she will find excuse not to go


Can you imagine she told me they found some Maltose cross on ife sculpture i said i need to see some puctures of it,
Ans: she started insulting her fams.....

I also asked her to prove the ife sculptures were made in ife and if the sculptures represented ife cultures or they were alien to ife, or probably the sculpture were simply bought from art vendors by the ife people i only asked her for proves?

Again she insulted her family as the answer and how nairaland has seen her face before

She equated dahomey recognition to ife as being
East of dahomey and how they equated ife as the rising sun from the east east and they prayed to it,
I also asked her for the evidence and she gave the usual insult to her families


I just want to appeal to you to let her be so she can find time to bring all this evidence to me


You have crushed her enough.... With her peaceful infiltration stories.....

N3cR0mAZc3R:
Abi OP yiii dey mad niii. Oba of bini is not a yoruba king and ooni of ife is number 1 with second place going to Alaafin of oyo.

Ogun dey kill u,.... Are you from ife, if not shut up, all these yorubas from kwara will putting mouth like they are even from the town they are arguing on,


Only ife and benin should be having this discussion not people who ir doesnt concern....

Oba of benin yoruba my foot

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Etrusen:
how did u manage to interpret some of the words although some of your interpretation are still wrong e.g the one you said "add some wisdom to mine" and the one you said "I will ask Oba Ewuare".

it's like my test for u must have stressed u out and I guest u have trying this all day but there is always no harm in learning

areafada was able to read and reply me completely using Edo language you can use wisdom to find your answer from his work.

we have no problem bro but you have to understand that even when you are good there are people who have been there before you came no matter the age. Benin history has been my mine focus more than half of my life even at that I still have people I admire.

one love bro.

Doesnt also change the fact that all your life studying on the history is correct

Benin had so many parable, relating to the heavenly beigns, but those were myth

benin used to leave in different segmented settlement before oba eweka united all the settlement as one, maybe those various rulers were nickname ogiso sky kings but the emerge of eweka who probably was still an ogiso himself wared, with other ogiso and defeated them and formed a bigger
Which probably emerged a new dynasty called oba
This is the possible explanations if indeed the ogiso did exist which i doubt because no evidence to than oral accounts,

It could also be those ogiso kings were called oba and not ogiso like what we are being told obagodo were word coined recently, to attack the yorubas , but one thing i know is if indeed ogiso existed and eweka displaced them, definitely eweka was never from any Yoruba land

Start your benin research history from there, the problem with most of you is you so much believe oral accounts and you read not evaluate but believe as longs as it appeals to your like then it must be truth.....

This screenshot was done in 1969 in relation of what you heard from elders in the 70s


Am not impressed the way you tell history, your knowledge on benin history is too dogmatic

OmoOlofin:
gayboy, fist of all I’ve successful rendered you a nuisance on Nairaland to the extent that you’re now being denied by your own Edo people. Interesting.

Secondly, what you term as “waiting for evidence” is actually a further evidence of your slowness and mental retardation.

You dumb request is similar to requesting that you need a picture of your brain in order to really believe that you have a brain.

And this despite the different independent doctors’ reports confirming to you, after series of tests, that there is some organ (called brain — although useless) sitting right within your cranium.

Does one really have to break-down your dumbness to you before you realize it?

Are you that dull that you can’t really figure out how dull you are ??

I warned that you should stop disgracing your innocent family all over Nairaland.

The words of s scornful lady are directed to her
consort kinsmen


TAO11 if you have boobs send me as evidence

OmoOlofin:
gayboy, fist of all I’ve successful rendered you a nuisance on Nairaland to the extent that you’re now being denied by your own Edo people. Interesting.

Secondly, what you term as “waiting for evidence” is actually a further evidence of your slowness and mental retardation.

You dumb request is similar to requesting that you need a picture of your brain in order to really believe that you have a brain.

And this despite the different independent doctors’ reports confirming to you, after series of tests, that there is some organ (called brain — although useless) sitting right within your cranium.

Does one really have to break-down your dumbness to you before you realize it?

Are you that dull that you can’t really figure out how dull you are ??

I warned that you should stop disgracing your innocent family all over Nairaland.

TAO11 do you have boobs if yes send me pictures


Am i being too hard on you

Ok.send me an article from dahomey that atest ife to the east and how they worshiped ife and recognised it as the sun from the east......



........

And pictures of your boobs or, i dont believe it


Note: when two benins are talking i expect you to keep shut and stay far,


Bunch of mouthed cowards

Etrusen:
otemwen o ghan I kakabo kponmwen we vbe vbin ya nu ta,sokpan I gha no we ote so, sokpan nu rie wanmwen yo mwen re.

My brother i want to thank you for what you have said, but i will ask you some questions but you will add some wisdom to mine



okao vbo ore: ovbie seserese we khin ra? ke vbe we I gha vbe ro ni rhien igiogbe gbe nu ke re kevbu khu nu tue vbo wie vbe de gha gbe.
we gha setin rie mwanwen yo mwen re I gha khuene ota ya nu gha no mwen re, sokpu ma na setin khuene mwenre o ta ni no we re, u setin ya ne Oghidian no yan ason Adakamioruyen

If you add your wisdom to mine i will answer everything you will ask and if i cant answer you i will ask oba ewuare


Please interpret the bolded

tu gha to oten o ghan.������

Igbise yor.....

TAO11:
Hahaha Don’t put Ife where he said Uhe.


@gregyboy is it true that your lineage is even a fake Rdo lineage after all??

Someone said that — cc: Etrusen

You really want to do this,


Am asking do you want me to interfere.... Watch your mouth i i didnt come for you i came for my edo brothers


I have wasted you enough.....

Anyway i am still waiting for my evidence

My edo brother would not let you be with their ogiso moonlight tales

TAO11:
You keep running away from one flogging to another flogging.

You’ve left the Ada after the disgrace.

Now to this, I never claimed there wasn’t any such account in circulation.

My argument was clearly that these accounts emanate originally from Benin itself; became popularized by early European writers starting from Dapper, 1600s; but are never corroborated by the accounts from these particular kingdoms themselves, viz. Owo, Akure or Ekiti, etc.

Every bit of your comment shows that you’ve been following this thread from the back of your phone.

Desperate sad kid, aka Etinosa.

TAO11 am still waiting for your evidence

I hope you havnt forgetting

My benins brothers are disturbing you from my assignment, but find spare time to reply me,


Am currently reading the debate i promise not to interfere

Daum:
The old man who told me about Izoduwa is dead now. He barely spoke pidgin. He was not formally educated. He told me this story in a village called Evboesi in Ohrionmwon. Evboesi is more closer to Abraka in Delta state than it is to Benin city. So this old man never read any history books and there was no press conference way back in 70s. These were folklores that were passed down from father to children.


Whatever Europeans wrote about us was what they heard from us or observed when they came to us. But it doesn't change the fact that they still can't know the history of our people better than us.

And how did he narrate izoduwa history, repeat it the way he said it, dont add you own explanation

Dont put ife were he said uhe just narrate exactly how he told it,

Our history needs to be put on research

Etrusen:
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this gregyboy is not a Benin guy I ask him question using Benin but he could not reply but areafada and happen to be that areafada is a product from Oba loins "Lamogun"

I bet to ask gregyboy 10 questions face to face and he will fail.

And you are not benin

Etrusen:
I bet to ask u 10 question with Benin face to face and you will fail all

Ask them here,


Stop talking myth ask me the question


I have lot of questions to ask you

I hope you wont be lazy to type yoruba man

Just bcus u write and speak benin doesnt make u benin, i know many people who are not benin but they do,


If you believe in the oromiyan myth so much yoy shouldnt be lazy to type,....


I hate the fact youre claiming benin and even to the palace and still youre insulting we benins with your weak debate


Afar can you trace the oromiyan history through document


If this rubbish myth have to stop then the palace must first stop circulating it,

Etrusen:
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this gregyboy is not a Benin guy I ask him question using Benin but he could not reply but areafada and happen to be that areafada is a product from Oba loins "Lamogun"

I bet to ask gregyboy 10 questions face to face and he will fail.

U need not to ask me, face to face ask me here

Etrusen:
this clearly show u are not a Benin person but pretending to be one. I purposely decided to write some words in old Benin in order know if you true but u failed because I sense your words and writing.
but to prove my a words were genuine areafada replied me fluently and u that call your self a Benin historian can't do the same and that makes me to wonder how u can be able to translate what u don't understand and I even doubt if you can even speak the language.

this is the problem of many historians today in Nigeria trying to do what they know what they know nothing about.

please go and start afresh because Benin is deeper than u can imagine

SIGN OUT

I speak the language fluently, it would be a shame for me not to,

I write and read the benin pidgin writing and not the standard writeups


That doesnt not change anything,


Youre speaking rubbish and tangling our history with myth made up after 1914

Drop your pride and learn the truth

Face me clear and prove all this nonsense you're writing

Prove them, here dont write any benin to me again write in English or send your voicenote in benin

Etrusen:
let me ask you but I don't know if you understand edo language but u should think it through yourself by trying with this

ovbi _child
Ada _ the curved sword
Ovbi _ child
Eben _ the pointed one

please where is owner there ? I don't know where u got owner from because owner in Benin is "na rhien" but i can't see it there or any other added words there

personally I know that praise you are talking about because I have been to the palace more than 4 times especially during coronation I was also at Usama palace where the Oba was crown

Usama palace was the first palace built in oronmiyans period and oronmiyan administration was done there up till Oba Ewedo ascended the throne

when it come to Benin words and meaning or history and even adage, it is in my blood and devotion. I personally have carried Edo study from almost all my life. most of the interpretation u give I just look at it and laugh and sometimes I don't feel like replying because I know u are not Benin

so madam let just leave Benin because it's more than what the ordinary person out there think it is ��

and respect for your time.

Stop saying rubbish which oromiyan, oga stop this nonsens

Leave TAO11 and face me

Stop adding oromiyan to our history


Face me lets debate on the validity of oromiyan, if indeed he existed

If he existed and you win i go leave culture thread for you


Nonsense oromiyan which oromiyan


You be yoruba man

valirex:
They are

The nigga cant even type in benin properly

They are this desperate, see yorubas don open mouth for e head,


If na benins person, then i nor fit be bini

Etrusen:
oye vbu we ma rhien idu vbe Rio.��

You're not a benin person i cant even read what you wrote in benin, please write them in english or use voicenotenn , just stay of benin history you're inexperienced at it or you probably a traitor , you know nothing on benin history,than just repeating gigo, the yorubas are using you to count their teeth, maybe its all in your plan anyway to save tye face of Tao11 from my destruction


Am just busy now, to have any debate with anyone but you're pushing me to, haven't you disgrace we binis enough
Just stop whatsoever ever you think you're doing and run back to were you came from.....

Even a Yoruba coward wont even converse as you do,

I was thinking you had something new, na just notice me you be, we don notice you abeg nor dey disgrace us pass this one,

If you were a Yoruba guy i wont debate you, i will tell you to simply never to mention me again

Even. If you come from the palace that won't still you ab edge over we who dont,

Just stay clear yoruba guy

Etrusen:
otemwen o ghan I kakabo kponmwen we vbe vbin ya nu ta,sokpan I gha no we ote so, sokpan nu rie wanmwen yo mwen re.
okao vbo ore: ovbie seserese we khin ra? ke vbe we I gha vbe ro ni rhien igiogbe gbe nu ke re kevbu khu nu tue vbo wie vbe de gha gbe.
we gha setin rie mwanwen yo mwen re I gha khuene ota ya nu gha no mwen re, sokpu ma na setin khuene mwenre o ta ni no we re, u setin ya ne Oghidian no yan ason Adakamioruyen

tu gha to oten o ghan.������

Ima emwen nu gben lahor degbe gben ladian d standard edo writing ologor na tie, try nu simplify
D writing vbe ni ya gbo go mwen


De Tua lowe voice note, toni aman se

Etrusen:
you are absolutely right my brother but gregyboy is not understanding those facts

I will be dwelling in such mystical talks, i know how mythical tales distort true history


Ogiso never existed they were stories to make benin royal stool divine, idu, owodo they were obas and not ogiso


Stop thinking of adding yorubas to our history because i know the izoduwa mythical history is what you're aiming at,

You want to draw the battle there, and discuss myth with your fellow yorubas

Etrusen:
Oga ogiso was just in form of Oba title given to any one who is crown but they have their own name added to the Oba e.g Oba Erediauwa and Oba Ewuare are they not two two people entirely ? but they have the "oba" added to their name to show who they are.
that is how it was in ogiso dynasty we have 31 ogisos before oba dynasty among whom are
Ogiso Igodo
ogiso Ere
ogiso Orire and so on.
please I hope this is clear ?

and for that of "erhinmwidu" you said
it is the ancestral alter for the past kings till date handled by the isekhure of Benin.
the erhinmwidu is always regarded as the number Oba of Benin deity because it's the mark of his fathers and father's fathers.
just like the name stands
erhinmwin_spirits
idu_ Edo
but because the Oba is Edo pillar all things revolve round him thats while have names like
obaredo
obarisiagbon
obayangbon
obaradesagbon. etc

please I hope you understand?

erhinmwidu was an oba not ogiso, i dont know what you guys are aiming with this ogiso issue
Trying to turn myth into truth,


Ogiso never existed our kings were always oba

Benins have so many myth talking about the sky

Ogiso is fucking myth,


Unless you want to give me a tangible reasons why the transition between the ogiso and oba


Dont tell me that Oronmiyan shit if you're to give me any answer

AreaFada2, i am believing this is your second account if indeed he is truly not yoruba

Etrusen:
my brother am not a Yoruba man but Edo with 100% asset
I mean no insult na but for us to discuss with respect for each other dignity not insulting anyone online.
if you made a point and the other person is not acknowledging the point please leave him to go with his trouble rather insulting each other.

You be yoruba

Etrusen:
Oga ogiso was just in form of Oba title given to any one who is crown but they have their own name added to the Oba e.g Oba Erediauwa and Oba Ewuare are they not two two people entirely ? but they have the "oba" added to their name to show who they are.
that is how it was in ogiso dynasty we have 31 ogisos before oba dynasty among whom are
Ogiso Igodo
ogiso Ere
ogiso Orire and so on.
please I hope this is clear ?

and for that of "erhinmwidu" you said
it is the ancestral alter for the past kings till date handled by the isekhure of Benin.
the erhinmwidu is always regarded as the number Oba of Benin deity because it's the mark of his fathers and father's fathers.
just like the name stands
erhinmwin_spirits
idu_ Edo
but because the Oba is Edo pillar all things revolve round him thats while have names like
obaredo
obarisiagbon
obayangbon
obaradesagbon. etc

please I hope you understand?

Oga go sit down, wetin u dey talk

Ogiso were just normal rulers then oromiyan came to displace them

You're not edo stop pretending


I ask you few questions and you were giv
giving me stories of how lazy you wers to typs, but you type a full page accolding TAO11