₦airaland Forum

GabrielYulaw:
You were raised well. The boy was very lucky to have you and others like you around. But the fact remains that if you are disabled in this country there's like a 98% chance of you being endlessly discriminated against and mocked because of your disability. And I mean ENDLESSLY.

cococandy:
And you know a funny thing, it’s the people who are deeply against abortion and women’s right to choose that will be the first to abort a fetus with Down syndrome. That’s why I read all the hypocritical and religious garbage they spew here daily and shake my head

Pinkzebra:
We all sound as though here in Nigeria people do all necessary test when pregnant. How many parents even do these test or can afford to ? Those who have children with disability.often times didn't find out until after birth .
I'm sure if most if these parents were given the choice at about say trimester , they will abort it.
Having said that , I do not judge a parent who choose to abort neither do I praise the one who decide to have them . Our capacity and tolerance level differs and our ability to fight off social stigmatization differs too.
But I do believe that people with down syndrome are humans and shouldn't be treated less of a person . But this is Nigerian , we are the most religious and get we are hypocrite. We criticize whatever we don't understand and we We do not understand humanity and that the world � is for all

Hintona:
How?

Their parents are not even there when these children taunt them.

Hintona:
This is true.

I know a woman who has three kids with down syndrome. Their age mates usually make fun of them. The eldest one is always looking sad.

GabrielYulaw:
Two people out of how many?

I didn't say disabled people shouldn't be born. Their parents should just know what they are signing up for.

GabrielYulaw:
I don't even understand. Like why is such a topic even up for debate?

Are we talking about the same kids with Down syndrome that I have never seen or heard people except their immediate family say good things about? The same kids who get regularly mocked and insulted by people they are far older than.

It's been 15 years at least but I still remember a roughly 20-year old boy with this condition being mocked by a boy of 5-7 years. The Down syndrome boy chased the little boy home to report his misdeeds to his parents. It was sad asf.


Why are we debating this please? If you feel you can't abort a kid with Down syndrome that's okay. Just be aware of the lifelong cross you are carrying.
And be very aware that the kid will need care all their life and be passed on to one of your other kids or relatives to take care of. And be aware that the said relatives or siblings might not share the love you have for your kid with Down syndrome and might physically, sexually and emotionally assault them.

I've come in contact with quite a few kids with Down syndrome and they can be really cute and seem reasonably happy. But they didn't sign up to the never-ending degradation and oppression that almost everyone they meet subjects them to.
I don't feel it's fair for them to make them go through such pain and suffering when they could have just been aborted.

NarcissistKing:


I have a beautiful soul actually.

NarcissistKing:
Lol

I think I would, but I really like being in my space. I might actually want people around me now, and next minutes, I wanna be alone.

GabrielYulaw:
It's not really about despising them. For me it's just that I can't do anything much to protect and prepare them for this cruel world.

Nigerians are extremely wicked to the disabled and mock, insult, discriminate against them without letup or any provocation of any sort. You should see the looks and muttering they direct to the disabled.

The only way I can have a disabled child is if I can be there 24/7 from morning to night and from school to church. Otherwise, the kind of oppression they go be chopping will make even the devil want to kill himself.

NarcissistKing:
I don't get emotionally attached to things or people easily, irrespective of whatever. You can say I'm heartless (lol). I definitely know I'm gonna despise such child because I am not really good at handling children, especially when such child comes with limitations.

GabrielYulaw:
Okay sha. When the time comes have the baby and see what's up. You can get away with it in the abload where there are helpful social services, but not in a country like Nigeria.

NarcissistKing:
Gonna do it without thinking twice! Can't have a child that I'm gonna despise!

bigjackass:
If you were the child in question won't you wish you were aborted, than live an almost meaningless life

1Sharon:
soon as your wife starts cheating, just know there's something that you are not doing, go down on your knees and pray, don't let another man break your home. Always appear neat the way you were the very first time you approached her and don't yell at her all the time, show her care and love so that she will not look outside, sometimes walk around naked and don't wear anything to bed, always try to catch her attention. Thanks and God bless you as you do so.

Denvacandy:
We got married in 2018 and things where going smooth, i was working with a company in port harcourt and i can bodly say i was very okay, taking flight is not an issue.

When she wanted to give birth to our first child, it was through CS and i paid every damn bills amounting to 500k or so.

We moved down to ogun state and i was taking flight monthly to see her from port harcourt.

Fast forward to 2020, the comapny fold up and i lost my job, i came down to ogun fully with my wife and everything went down, feeding was hard and my savings is drying up.

You know how woman do and how to satisfy them so my savings eventually dried up and the reality was down.

She applied for a teaching job at govt school and she got employed and i was always at home.

Do she was supportive but its didnt took long when she changed and started treating me badly.

I was so sad the day she utter all terirble words to me, on how have not been a good husband and how i have not been dropping money for food and co.

how i have not been taking care of her, i almost moved to tears and i refused to eat her food for some period, i was being supported by a street friend.

How can someone you have sacrificed so much for all of a sudden change and bring out thier true color.

Favfables1:
1. Madam calm down and read before you comment o... The thread is "should evil be justified REGARDLESS OF THE INTENTION" ((take note of the caps words))...
I'm simply saying if the intent ((which can be based on circumstance)) is self defense ((just as I stated up there)), then that supposed act cannot be termed "evil", buh if otherwise, then it isn't justifiable...

2. That's because you don't calm down to read and UNDERSTAND... You only argue blindly ((or for whatever other reason))...
Because if you had UNDERSTOOD my write up, then maybe your comments would have had more sense to them ((no offense))...

And I take God name beg you...
Read and understand before you come back on my mention...

Favfables1:
Did you actually take time to read and understand what I wrote before commenting? ((No offense))

I'm not justifying evil madam...
I'm saying that, an act in itself can be termed "good" or "evil" depending on the circumstance surrounding it...

Lemme use the instances you sited up there...

1. You kill a person in cold blood ((it's bad))

2. You kill a person to save yourself ((that's self-defense, and that's awk))

In both instances, you killed a person...
((Which I'm sure you have been told in church and by adults that it's bad, right??))

Buh in one case, it's "deemed" as an evil act and frowned upon ((cold blood murder)), buh in another case, you probably will be commended for it ((self-defense)) ...

Thus one can say, that an act termed "evil" is circumstantial ((dependent on circumstance))

I hope you get now??
And just before you come on my mention, please read it slowly this time...

Favfables1:
I agree with him...
Some supposed "evil" can be deemed "acceptable" depending on the circumstance...

Take for instance, we're told that killing a person in cold blood is bad, buh let's assume you were kidnapped and by some stroke of luck, your kidnappers forgot to lock the door, you courageously took the risk and peeped through the door, thinking of a way to escape... The sight that greets you from where you're peeping through is one of your kidnappers fast asleep on the chair, with his/her gun on the floor... Once again you summoned the courage and reach for his/her gun, hoping to use it as leverage to find your way out of their den, and just as youre about to leave after picking the gun, he/she wakes up and blocks the door...

You have two options, shoot him)her and escape or waste your time negotiating with him/her until his/her reenforcement arrives...

What would you do??

Olufemiolaolu:
No, we don't. I hate it when women weaponize sex. Majority of women do this. Women are just full of unnecessary drama.

Boomboost:
It's smart that you pointed out sex as a duty, however, enthusiasm can be self-generated. She can pretend to like it and we go out for dinner afterwards. We eat anything she wants

olaniyiYAH:
That can't possible as it must be an active role not volunteer

whodeyhere:
I think ones a man nuts, he has enjoyed the sex. But the issue is how comfortable a man would be when having sex with an unresponsive woman. How can such men keep it up?>

Morals:
Yes I have, just to broaden your narrow view you use to see the world by concluding a concept you have refered to as PEDOPHILE as being universal. It is nothing but an opinion. The World ain't Black and White.

Morals:
There is no beating around the bush here, am only upholding your logic of the world ain't Black and White, simple. Which in essence infers that what you choose to call child abuse is not as so defined by someone else based on their cultural beliefs, custom religion even freedom of thought. The World ain't Black and White.

Morals:
In support of your notion that the world ain't Black and White. And with the complexity of the human race, one will assume that when adults get married, for the fact that they are adults it is a Constance that it will go well, free of abuse. The World is truely not Black and White but shades of many colours.l Different strokes for different Folks.

Pnutbota:
In conversations, dealings and the likes.

Morals:
So it is obvious how we choose to see the world through different prisms. Most times we it it through the prism of BIAS not even Black and White.

pocohantas:
Fathers are gold.

The only man that wants you to be greater than him.

The only man that will give you urgent 2k without asking “so when are you coming?”

The only man that you can chop his money and not pay back in any form. Just be fine and great, he is alright.

One coconut head will na come from God knows where and want to rub shoulders with your father because he paid bride price. Kai! Young guys are badly behaved. If not they should know their place, somewhere below the father.