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MacDaddy01: Ode, big fool, agbaya!

What is a lil boy going to teach adults about sex or marriage or slavery in the bible?

it seems u never read my comment well...

Why wuld a child take adults on bible courses related to sex,marraige etc.....that'll be absurd....

D child can discuss bible stories and some other important points to his contemporaries or some few adults......

I'm sure u never read my comment well....

I asked how old was josiah.....??

Young ones can indeed give a witness....
Young ones who were taught truths from d bible from infancy .can .prÉach,but
DefÍnitly not. Assuming over sight roles like what I'm seeing on d pix the op put up...

what I don't agree with is a child laying hands on adults....its wrong........

obadiah777: LOL my name is obadiah777. i am reincarnated.

Lmao.....u don begiÑ re-incarnate now now??

No do o

The HOLY spirit na person??

Lord_Reed: No sir it is not far beyond unity, it is the perfect unity of mind that God has proposed for the church.

John 17:21:
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. (KJV)

Our unity with God does not make us the same as God, it makes us one with Him but not same.

The unity is not unity of body as some suppose but a unity of purpose and mind. Jesus does not have the same body as the Father nor do either of them have the same body as the Spirit.

There is no confusion if you understand this.

U make sense o.....

frosbel: This is were we part ways. Jesus Christ went to Hades or the grave , not Hell.

I was just trying to let that guy know that the word that shuld have been used is ""HADES"" or ""SHEOL"" the common grave of mankind....

I was also trying to help the guy understand that HELL isn't a place of torment,but ""GRAVE""....

Hope u understand where I'm heading to...:-)....

I wanted to surprise d guy with the fact that if Jesus did go to HELL,then it definitly isn't a place of torment........:-)......

Translation and rendering problem.....

belabela: Frosbel,

I like your thinking but let me share with you what I found out in the bible and contrast it with what is popular today in Christendom.

Heaven is the place where God lives. It is above the sky. The old English bibles use this word interchangeable to mean the sky or the outer space or the dwelling place of God.

When people die they do not go to heaven as popularly thought in many Christian assemblies today rather they go to the underworld (or the place of the dead). Jesus himself explained that this place is divided largely into two parts. Hell and paradise. Paradise is a place of rest, comfort and peace while hell is a place of torment. You will notice that when the thief was about to die Jesus did not promise to take him to heaven rather he promised that he would meet him in paradise.

In the bible Enoch and Elijah were taken up to heaven and theologians argue Moses too must have been taken up. Whatever the case those who had gone to heaven had gone with their bodies and not just spirit. Jesus himself had to be raised to go back to heaven.

Did Jesus go to hell? The bible never said that and I would say NO. Did he go to paradise? YES he did. Everyone would either go to paradise or hell when they die. That is a fact consistent in scriptures.

Heaven (the abode of God)would remain but the bible says at the end of time God would descend to the earth and live amongst men. This may not be popular but it's exactly what the bible says

DiÐ Jesus go to hell??

YES he did.....

Acts 2:27 $30, 31...

King James Version (KJV)
27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in HELL,
neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see
corruption.


30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing
that God had sworn with an oath to him, that
of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh,
he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the
resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not
left in HELL, neither his flesh did see
corruption.



Jesus indÉed spent 3 good days in HELL...but was not forsaken by HIS FATHER....

Thank u

How old was Josiah when he became king??

I'm not in support of this boy laying hands on people or assuming d role of an overseer...that'll be very wrong...

But this lil boy sure can preach about God from house to house or to persons with some bible knowledge......

Sure he can!!!!!

But what I'm seeing on that pix is wrong......the child is suppose to be with his parents learning more bible stories...:-)

Lmao.....

The way u hell fire adherents view God is exactly the way the nigerian legal system can be viewed.....

In nigeria as we know when u steal public funds that run into billions u go scot free....infact u are celebrated and even given the space to steal more.....the penalty is never commensurate to the corrupt action carried out by the politician.....

But when some1 on the street steals bread or one's cell phone,that poor thief is burnt to death........

What do I mean??

If adam,eve and satan the originators of the human ""wahala"" would face the penalty of everlasting death,why shuld we the offsprings of our 1st parents burn continously,for all eternity in a furnace or where ever it is fire burns (I just don't actually know when hell fire was created and also the venue)...........??

Is that justice??

See let me tell y'all.....

It is either one gains everlasting life or dies without d hope of ressurection....

The opposite of everlasting life is total death....

No 2 ways about it

Ubenedictus: sorry friend, but the gravity of a sin is also measure by whom is offended. When i beat up a guy in my street called ijawkid, he could sue me for assault and battery, when i throw stones or beatup GBJ, im charge with teason. If someone takes from his neighbor he is charged for stealing when you steal the coat of arms in d national assembly (i have forgotten it name) you would also face charges of teasons, mind you the jail terms arent the same. When i offend the wicked old man in my village many may say to the old man "serves u right" if i play the same prank with my parents, everyone would say to me "you are a disrespectful spoilt child". But when i offend one who is infinite goodness, love, mercy etc my sin is no longer finite, by the fact that i offended infinite goodnes and infinite justice, my sins becomes infinite and so my punishment. So my friend it would be stupid to call a willful sin finite.

Now I ask u the ultimate question.....

How would a God of Justice sentence our 1st parents who put the whole of humankind into this dillema we are in to death (destruction),then we the offsprings to literal eternal or everlasting torment in fire?? Where is the justice mr ubenidictus........??

The thought of fire roasting persons for all eternity was never taught amongst 1st century christians who already knew how God dealt with wickedness in the past(noahs day and sodom $ gomorrah).........

This doctrine of the literal burning of sinners for all eternity for finite sins they commited had a pagan origin..............

What sin can be greater than the one adam and eve commited??what sin can be greater than the sin satan has commited??

Satans fate ends up in the ""lake of fire"".......which means second death.........""DEATH"" death without ressurection......total destruction and annihilation.........

Satan would die and never to be heard of....

If satan would be living forever along with his co-horts in a fiery furnace,then is the gift of everlasting life meant for the righteous alone??

Frosbel has asked that question ,but no answer.....

The gift God gives is everlasting life...........

If people are going to literally live forever in hell fire then infact its a blessing to them.....

Ihedinobi: How hungry you are for a fight with me. Didn't I already tell you that I won't give you one? Get on with your life, dude, and forget a little about me.

Ihe my man wad up....what's cooking??...

How u doing??.....

Sweetnecta: @truthislight: you failed in your prophesy of me being finished just like the Bible failed on Ishmael being wildass of a man.

The God of the Bible blessed Ishmael first. Then cursed him to be a wildass man; trying to render His own blessing upon the lad useless. Lad is always innocent, unlike grown up folks.

So Allah made the blessing stick by raising us the Rasullu-amin [sa] with the last revelation and completion of perfect deen/process of Ibadat on him [Muhammad [sa] the last Messenger and seal of Prophet-hood of God under whose messenger-ship Islam that started on the first man, our father Adam [as] was finally completed].

I am inviting you to the Post graduate program of way of life, instead of staying in corrupted grade school still or at best mushroom undergraduate program.

Ns your life. I already told you you are wrong. Proof: You see 100 fold, you dey deny say if you leave 1 wife you no go get 100 fold of am, 100 wives which the wife you left will not be one of them. It means that the christian God will make am for you. Nothing for christian woman. See?

And Jesus did not marry, a confirmed bachelor. How on earth do you take marital advise from a bachelor? It like taking law advise not from lawyer, but from bricklayer.

So we shuld take advice from Jesus if only he was married abi??

His vast wisdom wasn't enough uh??

Sweetnecta: @Ijawkid: Your religious brother, truthislight has disagreed with you about everlasting life. He has dragged you to disbelieving that Jesus is also God, so is Holy Ghost/spirit and Yahweh of OT is God too. Though Jesus said Ellah with which you form HALLEluiah HALLElujah is his God.

@Truthislight: You are busted and Ijawkid should sue you or tell you to stop thinking for him, if he is honest to his own statement. You are driving further and faster into darkness upon darkness. Even faster than the already in the abject darkness that Ijawkid is already in.

@Ijawkind and Truthislight: compare your responses and see how different you guys are to each other on the same issue, my statement in quote.

Ijawkid said the immediate below as response to the quoted from me, while truthislight said what was below the quote as response to the same quote from me. How are these two following the same book, having the same holy spirit teaching them puzzles normal mind. The holy spirit is absolutely a ghost that does not teach or lead anyone to a successful destination. At least not good spiritual destination.


by ijawkid(m): 7:57pm On Aug 25
Hey!!!!!!!!

Everlasting life will both be experienced by persons both In heaven and on earth....d bible says that....

Read matthew 5:3 $ 5.......

New International Version (NIV)
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.

Look up those verses........

Eternal life will be enjoyed both in heaven and on earth..........no 2 ways about it........

This is d bible talking.....

But in trying to support ur 72 virgins in heaven by quoting scriptures frm d bible ur Ón a long thing






by truthislight: 11:27am
i dont really wish to join this thread at first even now.

But i notice that your information is not base on facts.

1. I and Ijawkid dont really ascribed to the trinity doctrine but you have attributed it to us.

2. I and Ijawkid dont accept that all rigtheous person will go to heaven but again you have attributed is to us.

3. I and Ijawkid dont ascribed to the immortality of the soul but you are have imputed it to us.

4. We dont know what you call holy ghost, what we know is holy spirit.

Is it also possible that what you are inputting to the scriptures are not the TRUTH?

You are of the view of what is the use of eternal life without 100 wives?

^^^^
lol
you are finish because of the lust urges in your brain.

Do you imagine it is all human that operate at such degree of lack of self control?

You input lies to other people just to justified your own urges/lust/lack of self control.

Jesus did not even have a wife let alone ask his followers to marry more than one wife, you wish to take his word out or context and justify you insatiable urge for sex.

Suit yourself.

Are u sure u read what truth is light wrote down??

He said we both don't believe in the trinity and that all righteous persons will go to heaven......we agree......why are u saying we are contradicting each other??he also said we both don't believe in the immortality of the soul........that's correct.....so what's ur problem??its like u didn't read his comment well...............

Cool down and read d comments...........

What have u to say about the scripture I quoted??

obadiah777: Bruh, this here is GOOD NEWS TRANSLATION

1 In the beginning, when God created the[b] universe[/b], 2 the earth was formless and desolate. The raging ocean that covered everything was engulfed in total darkness, and the Spirit of God was moving over the water. 3 Then God commanded, "Let there be light" - and light appeared. 4 God was pleased with what he saw. Then he separated the light from the darkness, 5

Do u know I love the GOODnews bible a lot??

Its so good.......

Its good u referred to that translation.......

frosbel: It all has to do with tradition.

People have been programmed by thousands of years of false teaching , most of which started from the catholic church and found their way into protestantism.

Many churches today hold onto false doctrines such as :

1. Tithes
2. Rapture
3. Eternal torment
4. Israel as a chosen nation physically


When you think for yourself and research scripture to reveal the truth, they call you a heretic.

My bro I tell u......these are doctrines d apostles never taught......

It really does have to do with tradition......

Romans 11:25

##New International Version (©1984)
I do not want you to be ignorant of this
mystery, brothers, so that you may not be
conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening
in part until the full number of the Gentiles
has come in.
##New Living Translation (©2007)
I want you to understand this mystery, dear
brothers and sisters, so that you will not feel
proud about yourselves. Some of the people of
Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only
until the full number of Gentiles comes to
Christ.


Considering and concluding the illustration of the symbolic olive tree that paul talked about in the preceding verses,it is clear paul was not talking or fortelling an eleventh hour mass conversion of the Jews to christianity as some may think......verse 26 might make many wanna think that......

Let's see verse 26
New International Version (©1984)
And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
"The deliverer will come from Zion; he will
turn godlessness away from Jacob.
.........

But on the contrary the pauls expression ""all isreal"" meant all spiritual ISREAL..christians who have been selected by holy spirit...He was saying in effect that the failure of the natural Jews to accept the messiah would not thwart Yahwehs purpose to have a spiritual ""OLIVE TREE"" full of productive branches....

This is in harmony with Jesus's own illustration of Himself as a vine whose nonproductive branches will be looped off.......

Jesus himself said @ john 15:1 $ 2

New International Version (NIV)
The Vine and the Branches
15 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the
gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me
that bears no fruit, while every branch that
does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be
even more fruitful..........

It is true that the modern state of isreal was not fortold in the bible,the establishment of the nation of spiritual ISREAL(the isreal of GOD) certainly was!!......

So we gotta identify and associate with that spiritual nation in these time of the end and not clinging to a physical or any physical nation..........galatians 3:8 $ 9......


I'll be back for 2 thesellonians.....

Yeah evil ones can tempt or torment us physically.....ofcus!!!!!!


We can be persecuted,beaten,slapped just like it happened to Jesus,spat on, or even killed........

...............

Its very true we can be tormented.......

No christian can be torment free in this time of the end.....except d christians lives outside this planet....:-)

Abeg tell them ooo......

How can persons who committed finite sins be purnished infinitely??

I go come throw C-4 for the venue o...lol


Just joking..

Make sure some muslims dnt get to u guys

Sweetnecta: @Truthislight: maybe you guys will finally see the light instead of the wretched darkness you have lived all your lives in? even you christians dont have uniformity belief of what heaven which is paradise is; what may qualifies a person, etc. You see confusion of the highest order? ijawkid is of the opinion of the untraceable 'planting garden' type of eden of Adam is the paradise, while still the same ijawkid proposes something in the sky. in either case what eternal reward is no christian knows it. but while he denies what Jesus of the bible says about the one wife you abandoned, they cover it up with what the not so virile Paul said. who is the hypocrite; the one who says his God is jesus, yet abandoned his saying to pick up the saying/opinion of paul or we the muslims telling you to see the light?
who is not following Jesus; paul who said the opposite of what Jesus said, though claiming that he is a slave of Jesus sent by Yahweh or we the muslims who say that the God of Jesus is Ellah from HALLEuyah, bowing to this God and reminding you to follow the already came another comforter?


pure hypocrisy. where does it say that or your holy ghost is the devil giving you wrong details? read the thing plainly, jo and stop going to the abyss of darkness which will never benefit you.


doing what with the empty everlasting life? even 100 wives is just about not enough especially considering your pastime is boy/girl friends thingy.


just like the emphasis on God is my father while i am truly is slave/servant messenger, human prophet? such a crock.


whats the use of 1 father for a grown man who is a father or even grandfather? but he has him. so deal with 100 fathers, 100 wives, 100 mothers, 100 multiplied by each siblings.


i think you can not handle the truth. but you want the 100 homes, horses, hectares of land, etc. there will be any death after death and judgment. so the 100 promised you is to make your house fuller than full.
interesting that people did not even realize that Jesus promised them 100 houris because the wife abandoned will not be that 100 wives, but newly minted 100 wives.

Hey!!!!!!!!

Everlasting life will both be experienced by persons both In heaven and on earth....d bible says that....

Read matthew 5:3 $ 5.......

New International Version (NIV)
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.

Look up those verses........

Eternal life will be enjoyed both in heaven and on earth..........no 2 ways about it........

This is d bible talking.....

But in trying to support ur 72 virgins in heaven by quoting scriptures frm d bible ur Ón a long thing

obadiah777: hehe my nigga Seriallink. i been around. perused other sections for a while, watched a few olympic games. did a name change and bounced right back like a yoyo

Lol.....the yoyo boy......

And which other sections were u perusing??hope u didn't go pitch ya tent in the romance section....lol

vedaxcool: Desperation explains the above! culminating to your inability to make complete sentences! Everlasting too will be spent on earth! Are u sure u making sense there? Unless u fall amongst the group of christians who believe heaven will be on earth the term everlasting life means just that everlasting life no everlasting then die then everlasting get that? I hope u are prepared for the overwhelment of 100 wives after leaving 1! Is that a great deal? Besides u will be leaving the 1 for the sake of Jesus!

It seems u never read d scriptures I quoted.....

obadiah777: DITTO. VERY WONDERFUL ANSWER

Buzu boy....is that u??....:-)

Christians can't repair d world.....d world is ruled by satan...leave it for him until Jesus destroys human kingdoms....

No christian can......

Even when he or she has good intentions Satan the GOD of this world will massage d persons mind into doing vile things.....

Go read daniel 2:44 to find out what will heal the world.....

Humans can't,,,,,,not even christians...

Christ himself even avoided this ish........

vedaxcool: Ijwkid is desperate, the verse is clear u leave one wife u get 100 + everlasting life! Why is he now separating the two? Now what is everlasting life? Clearly it refers to paradise! and what did jesus say u get in paradise! 100 mates for every one u leave for his course!

I aint desperate bro....its just the truth....

The individuals who lost there wife(s) would get them back.........

Not in heaven,but here on earth....

Everlasting life too will be spent on earth......

I just quoted scriptures to support it......

There isn't any marraige in heaven....get that!!!!!

Callotti: See wahala o?
Na by force to read thread?
Wonders!

Lucky you! Sleep don dey casssh moi.

Lol....good for u.....if u like no go sleep.....

Dey here dey curse GOD....

ArmageDdon is lurking around d corner.....

Keep ya head up!!!!!!!!

Oboy leave GOD alone naaaaaaaaaa........

Billyonaire: There is a massive Asteroid in our solar system with precision of falling into Atlantic Ocean in 2088, the impact from estimates will be like thousands of Hiroshima nuclear bomb, the Tsunami and quakes may annihilate all lifeforms on the planet and send us all back into etheric dark matter, the soul (solar) source of our being. Life as we know it, might change forever. This truth is kept secret so the entire planetary inhabitants wont panic. Astronomers are seeking any planet that can hold human species for certain number of years. What ever remains of the planet, they can return to populate the world again. This Secret ambition is not for preservation of race and tribe, but for preservation of human species. You go pay me oh for all these secrets o.

Hmmmm....:-)...

Sounds like scientific ARMAGEDDON......

By that time I go don die sef....make our great grand children find way evade that disaster o........

Then it must mean a member of the church sneaked this whole thing out.......

Which is wrong....

Lol..this story long o

Lol......

Ur correct.....many here have to always confirm informations b4 they start spreading......

Instead of curiously running thru an info that might not be accurate,individuals shuld investigate d source of that info b4 commenting......

Sweetnecta: ^^^^ ijawkid, ijawkid, ijawkid.
how many times i called you above? full count of 3 it was.

aren't you ashamed of arguing this obvious point?

Who is correct; you and paul and psalm or Jesus?

did you read where there is real eating and drinking expected in the heaven Jesus is familiar with?
did you read where Yahweh says to Adam you and your wife?

Did you read where Jesus said after regeneration and read where somebody eating with him is looking forward eating in the kingdom of God?

you disbelieve in your God Jesus is what your problem is. you are a hypocrite by this.
of all the meek people in christianity, no one will not die and then judgment day.

so when do they inherit the earth and get the 100 wives for each wife left? after death when all you wait for is judgment or before death when no one of you had left his wife for Jesus, ever? maybe this is the reason paul contradicts Jesus and then contradicts himself by saying if you divorce, no more marriage for you?

abeg. let others who may be bold a little contribute. your type who is afraid of his own shadow should go sidon.

Lol....

Now what hÀve I done now??

I just said sometin frÓm d bible......

If u want to force down ur own thinking into the heads of many here just to prove that muslims who will enjoy 72 virgins in heaven is justified by using that scripture found in d accounts of the gospel ,then its not gonna work.......

I have told u were it is possible persons will eat,drink and do all human stuffs when Gods kingdom comes....

HERE ON EARTH.......

Gods kingdom will be extended to the earth if u understand what I'm saying........

Listen and listen good......

Don't come here messing around and thinking persons can be married in heaven.....it aint going to happen......and for the 72 virgins u guys are awaiting is just a dream....wake up bro to reality......

In heaven nobody gets married...........

Instead of u to ask for more scriptures that will show u my points ur there refuting my whole write up.....

Oboy take am easy o........