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saintvc: WE REMEMBER JESUS

Catholic remember the action of Jesus. From birth to baptism to preaching to miracle to last supper to death.

We are universal

at a particular day, the reading, bible verse, gospel, psalm is the same worldwide. Go to the lowest catholic vilage or fly to st peter basilica in vatican sity, the mass is the same

We talk with authority

catholics make bold claims and stand by it. We claim the church cant make mistake. We say the holycominium is Jesus body and blood. BELIVE IT OR NOT. Catholics tell you MARY, AUGUSTINE, FRANCIS etc are in heaven..Take it or leave it.

We always celebrate

from angels, to Mary , to Jesus.in a parish called st patrick, they celebrate St patrick day

WE CONTAIN TENSION

Many churches have folded over little issues. The arrest of revrend King crippled the church.The catholic church has been persecuted and attacked many times,yet she stands.

We have role models

we hav people who havd passed through the earth strugles and belive they are in heaven.such people encourage us. Do u want to remain a virgen, ST MARIA GORETTI prèferd to die than loose her virginity.

I WAZ BORN A CATHOLIC, I AM A CATHOLIC AND I WIL REMAIN A CATHOLIC

The catholics were the ones who persecuted people...killed people..burnt people on stakes....

Engaged in wars that claimed d lives of many...

Catholics infact were not persecuted,they were d persecutors

obowunmi: Jesus fasted for 40 days and 40 nights. The bible records it - so I know.

Jesus did fast I know..

But did he command his followers to fast??

Now that's d question u shuld ask urself,,...

Fasting is optional not mandatory....

And it shuldnt be done publicly...

I believe when Jesus fasted no one saw Him,....he fasted in secret .....

What is this??

obowunmi: I recently did 7 days no water or food and that sent me to the hospital.

Fasting can be very dangerous.

Lol.......

Fasting is not mandatory,neither is it a precept that christians must follow strictly in order to be approved by GOD.....

Fasting shuld be by choice...and it shuld not be announced.....members of a church are not be coerced into fasting...parents shuld nt coerce there kids too into fasting....

Lastly::::::....fastings shuld not be announced...it shuld be done secretly....and no one shuld knw u did fast except the Father...

Shikena!!!!

frosbel: I have noticed that on Nairaland, you can post all the logic, facts and evidence and our members will walk past it all as if they are blind.

My belief from the scriptures is definitly righteous persons will live on this earth forever.........not all good persons will go to heaven........

Jesus's word confirms that @ matthew 5;3 $ 5

New International Version (NIV)
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
.....

Jesus said it and I believe it.....

Add me up on WAGSKEHINDE@yahoo.com

JIL: 1 John 1:8 - If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

What kinda sin??

Murder and genocide??

Goshen360: ^^^

[size=15pt]I changed my mind.......I am now for tithe, no more anti-tithe teacher. You want to debate me? Try me if you can...... [/size]

My brother...wetin happen??u wan collect tithe??....:-)

Goshen360: @ Ijawkid and truthislight,

Wow!

Well, I believe you guys should sit down and simple comprehend the scripture. I STOPPED to blame ANY CHRISTIAN since the day the Lord opened my eyes to the truth that.....

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Our knowledge is incomplete and our ability to speak what God has revealed is incomplete. 1 Cor. 13:9

The verse I gave up there SHOULD have read, IF the Holy Spirit is not separate from God........"why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost.....thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God the Holy Ghost. And besides, why do you guys think Jesus would say, sin against the Father (Yahweh) shall be forgiven, sin against the son shall be forgiven but sin against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven. Who then is the Holy Ghost that sin against shall not be forgiven

The context of the verse I quoted up there simple calls the Holy Ghost God in the sense that it talks about LYING TO HOLY GHOST AND THE NEXT VERSE CALLS THIS HOLY GHOST GOD and there is evidence in scripture that the Holy Ghost is distinct from God. The bible doesn't speak in tongues my brothers. I guess I might be busy today but I will resume this discussion when am back.

@ Ijawkid,
The verse you quoted simply talks about "authority/submission". Jesus off course......

New Living Translation (©2007)
Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. Philippians 2:6

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

(You can read different translations of this verse here: http://bible.cc/philippians/2-6.htm).

For whatever reason, best known to the Holy Spirit who inspired the word, I do not know why the Holy Spirit was not in the verse of I Cor. 11:3. I will be back to share more. Thank you.

That verse nver said the holy spirit or the spirit of Holiness is GOD.....
Verse 3 says annanias tried to cheat the spirit of Holiness....

Verse 4 never says that that spirit of holiness is GOD...it didn't goshen....its not explicit.........

## for example if one embraces the spirit of the world that person automatically belongs to Satan who is the source of that spirit.....that doesn't make that spirit that pervades the world a person....
Similarly annanias lieing to the spirit of holiness is tantamont to him lieing to the source from which that spirit came from..and that source and person is GOD.....



Ok to clarify issues show more verses that explicitly show the holy spirit is a GOD or GOD...there has to be isn't it??....we need explicit verses that will say ""the holy spirit is a GOD or that the holy spirit is GOD""...or where someone or Yahweh says that the holy spirit is ""ELOHIM"".....

For this trinity dogma to hold there must be explicit verses not vague verses....

And on the 1 corinthians 11:3....

U don't have to wonder why the holy spirit isn't on that list.....I want u to use ur imagination to fix the holy spirit on that headship laDder...

If it is a person there must be a way out...

Except we can conclude that the holy spirit is just like the other myriads of angels in heaven..(They are also called ELOHIM)....so as not to be fixed on that arrangement...

Remember we have to be fully convinced beyond reasonable doubt that the holy spirit is GOD and that it is or he is a person......

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I will like u to analyze this scripture and ask urself pertinent questions.....1 corinthians 2:12

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Now we have received, not the spirit of the
world, but the spirit which is of God; that we
might know the things that are freely given to
us of God.
.....

Now can u kindly tell us on this forum here if the spirit of the world is a person......

Is it??

Goshen360: @ truthislight,

Let us start with this scripture of the Holy Spirit/Ghost being called God. Let's start here and if time permit me, I will show your more, okay.

But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back [part] of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. Acts 5:3-4 Kjv.

What do you see of this scripture? Tell me your understanding here and we will continue from there.

My bro goshen...

I would like to differ on that scripture u just quoted...

Those verses do not explicitly prove that the holy spirit is GOD or GOD........

Its just like any other verse...

Because verse 4 is not implying that the holy spirit is GOD...not @ all...

Remember for ananias to had cheated the spirit of holiness according to how the aramaic reendition renders it(""Why has
Satan filled your heart to cheat The Spirit of
Holiness"",he definitly was filled with the spirit of satan,the spirit of the world that fostered greed and materialism...

If u could remember frosbel did ask a vital question of which many nver took note of...

The opposite of the spirit of HOliness emanating from Yahweh as its source is the spirit of Satan or the Spirit of the world......

Now frosbel asked:::is the spirit of the world a person ?? SataÑ is the GOD of this world,satan is a GOD,...but the spirit of deception,the unholy spirit that comes from Satan the GOD of this world and influences many to do bad(e.g...the heathens here on nairaland..lol) isn't a person or a God.....

Also remember:::it is either a christian is filled with the Holy spirit(spirit of holiness) or the spirit of the world......

Hope ur getin my point......

I appreciate the scripture u put up there,but I'll also want u to go back and really find out if verse 4 was saying the holy spirit is GOD....

There isn't really any explicit verse that will tell u that the HOLY spirit is GOD...not one...

And I will just want u to give me a break down of this verse and assume where u might wanna fix the holy spirit.....

1 corinthians 11:3....
1 Corinthians 11:3
New International Version (NIV)
3 But I want you to realize that the head of
every man is Christ, and the head of the
woman is man,[a] and the head of Christ is God.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
However, I want you to realize that Christ has
authority over every man, a husband has
authority over his wife, and God has authority
over Christ.......

Now that scripture explicitly is talking about headship and persons involved in the ladder or heriarchy of headship starting from GOD the Father and Jesus(omitting the holy spirit who if he was a person and another GOD would be part of that headship arrangement).....and then its extension down to man and wife.....

Yahweh---Jesus---Man---woman....

I wuld sincerely wanna ask u....

Where in this arrangement would u fix the Holy spirit if he is GOD and part of a God head??

Thank u bro...
Agape!!!!

Goshen360: ^^^
I guess you and this brother (okeyxyz) are saying the same thing to our brother Frosbel. This brother said on the other thread and I kind of agree with his view and yours.



@ Frosbel, e be like say you don read/study too much and now confused . Abeg take am easy o.

Why do we reside on the Yahweh and Jesus premise??..

Because right there in heaven we only see 2 persons...

Yahweh sitting on his majestic throne and Jesus his son sitting the right hand of Yahweh...,,the holy spirit if its a person is no where to be found.......

And frosbels point is Jesus is not Yahweh...

Goshen if I may ask u;;;;;:::::


IS JESUS d same person as YAHWEH??

Is Jesus the same as the Father??

The trinity dogma teaches that Yahweh and Jesus are equal(that no one is greater than the other)...it also now teaches(the modified version) that Yahweh is Jesus and Jesus is Yahweh(not 2 distinct persons).......

Another question...::::can any1 just show me 1 scripture that uses the. Expression ""GOD the Holy Spirit""??or that explicitly calls the holy spirit a GOD or GOD??

I need these answers so that we can further scan this doctrine called trinity...

Catholics even killed persons to enforce this pagan doctrine of triad GODS....

I still stick to Jesus's words and recitation...

""Listen O isreal Yahweh our GOD is 1 GOD""....
Not 3 GODS in 1 Godhead....neither 1 person manifesting in 3 forms....

Mr_Anony: No my brother, God's nature of Trinity is not one of those things a christian can "beg to differ" on.

The problem with rejecting Trinity is that once you do that, you will immediately start to discount some parts of the bible as fake and then gradually the bible looses it's authority for you and from there, it's a steady decline into apostasy.

I'm pretty occupied at the moment but I'll make out time and we'll properly have this chat.

On the contrary it is when u accept d pagan triology that u'll have a problem explaining scriptures.....

And u'v had that problem a million times...

The doctrine has been over-modified and still it sounds absurd and off track....

Show us just 1 verse that has d expression ""GOD the holy spirit"" and I will agree the holy spirit is GOD and part of the trinity...

But no way!!!!....it is not in d bible.....

Rather u have to start bringing few verses to back up a point that never existed.......

U talk about 3rd person,but again disagree that it is not 3 gods but 1.....

If u guys choose to hold on to the modalism dogma I will tryna understand....but by d definition of the trinity I can see most of u are running away from it.....

3 distinct persons,but making 1 person @ d same time....sounds like noob saibot to me....


The doctrine is pagan like d purgatory and mary worship....shikena!!!!

obadiah777: YEAH ME TOO. I AM MORE OF AN EBA GUY MYSELF IF I CAN GET ANY THAT IS.

Lol...

U can get enough garri/eba if u come back to the almighty nigeria...

Hope u'v been keeping track of the GARRI association of nairaland...??lol...

Goshen360:

If ANY MAN be in Christ, he is a NEW CREATURE.....(you can complete the rest).

Oh thanks my bro for that warm answer...

I am new in Christ and no egbesu worshipper...

Pagan 9ja wants me to run around with red straps on my head and arm and then with white chalk all over my body...lol...

The boy funny gan!!!!!!

obadiah777: IN THE NYSC BUKATERIA SOLIDIFYING HIS BELLE WITH AKPU AND OFE ONUGBU SO HE CAN HAVE ENOUGH POWER TO WIN SOULS ON NL TONIGHT. HE TOLD ME TO PASS THIS MESSAGE TO YALL. HE TOLD ME TO GIVE YALL HIS PICTURE. SENT IT TO ME THROUGH HIS BB http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3ucKfSXR3-vVW1rIUWcsmbGzx7ZYkIMlnUKxmjtw7d1xCueL6&t=1

Hahahahahah.....

if u know how much I hate fufu/akpu eh.....

It smells like deadi body....lol

Oh pagan boy....lol....

I might be an ijaw man on the outside(state of origin),but I am a follower of Christ on the inside...

So u expect me to run around with guns and doing ode-eshi abi??

Lol

Joagbaje: Froebel check this out

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The same oÑe that came as a dove right??....

.....

So who is greater amongst Jesus and the holy ghost??

Because we already know Yahweh is greater than Jesus....

Do the maths then find out if the holy spirit is actually a distinct person.....

And ask urself if the holy spirit didn't know when d world would end......its a person right??

Jesus said angels(persons),himself(person) do not know the day and hour...

He said only Yahweh(1 person) knows the day and hour......did the holy spirit know or didn't know....??

If the holy spirit is really a person then I think Jesus totally forgot about the holy spirit while uttering those true sayings........

And if the holy spirit indeed is a person then we can agree with some persons who say GOD commited adultery.....what do u think??

Trinity will drive us mad and make us believe rubbish....

Rich4god: Thats where the trinity comes in, He was with God the Father.

So from ur understanding we can say...

1....Yahweh(the Father) who Jesus was with is 1 GOD....

2...Jesus(the figurative word) is also another GOD...

That makes 2 GODs...right??

How many GODs §huld we serve??

Because john 1;1 is indeed speaking of 2 personage....

Father and son....right??

There is nothing trinity about john 1:1....

And where is the holy spirit in john 1:1??

Where was he??

Rich4god: The word is Jesus... The word was God, the word was with God and the word was made flesh... Jesu was with God, Jesus was God and Jesus was made flesh.

The Word(Jesus) was with GOD...right??

Which GOD??

Rich4god: And what do you have to say about John 1:1.

What did u deduce from the verses u read as regards oneness??

And before I start with john 1:1.......

I'll want to ask u a lil question......

How many Gods were mentioned in john 1:1.......??

<< John 1:1 >>
New International Version (©1984)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and the Word was God.
.....

Which God was the word with??

And was the word the GOD he was with??

How many persons are talked about in john 1:1??

Compare john 1:1 with (1 john 1:1-3)....

Rich4god: @ijawkid... What do you have to say about John 1:1. And what did Jesus mean when He said that "I and the Father are one".

So u mean since u'v been readn d bible u don't know what d expression "" I and the Father are one"" means??

Please read these verses and tell me what oneness means......


John 17:20-24

20 “I do not ask for these only, but also for
those who will believe in me through their
word, 21 that they may all be one, just as you,
Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also
may be in us, so that the world may believe
that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you
have given me I have given to them, that they
may be one even as we are one, 23 I in them
and you in me, that they may become perfectly
one, so that the world may know that you sent
me and loved them even as you loved me.
24 Father, I desire that they also, whom you
have given me, may be with me where I am, to
see my glory that you have given me because
you loved me before the foundation of the
world. .....

U can do the maths and tell me what Jesus meant by "" I and the Father are one""

Rich4god: @Ijawkid... Plz, i have a question for you. You said Jesus gave His disciple the authority to forgive sins... Now, did the disciple die with that authority or did they pass it down to other christians.

u haven't my question 1st.....

Did d apostles forgive sins or were able to forgive sins according to john 20:22 $ 23??

Yes or NO....

Because I know the apostles did...did it make them GOD??

Answer now......

Rich4god: Dont get me wrong. When i say trinity, i mean in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirity. My question again... Why are we not baptized in the name of God only, but instead it is in the name of the 3 Persons(trinity)?. When Christ breathed to the apostles, He said "recieve the Holy Spirit", why didnt He say "recieve God the Father (or God's spirit)?. Note = "May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit... Why did Paul have to call out the 3Person's why not just mention God alone.

So tell us where paul says the HOLY spirit is a GOD or is GOD...

Are u assuming the holy spirit is GOD??

Because I can assume angel gabriel is God almighty too.....


Where is it written that the holy spirit is GOD....show me an explicit verse....

Right here,right now......

Oya start.......

Rich4god: Only God 4gvs sins... If Jesus is not God, how can He 4gv sin?. Why do we have to be baptized in name of the trinity, why not in the name of God only?.

This is d reply to ur answer......john 20:22 $ 23.....

22 And
with that he breathed on them and said,
“Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive
anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do
not forgive them, they are not forgiven...

Question for u...

Is it true Jesus's disciples could forgive sins??

My point??

God(Yahweh) gave Jesus authority to forgive sins,the same way Jesus gave his disciples the authority to do d same as is quoted up there......

Yahweh has d greatest authority...he is d source of all power...and Jesus who isn't Yahweh gets his power from Yahweh....

Read 1 corinthians 11;3.....
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
However, I want you to realize that Christ has
authority over every man, a husband has
authority over his wife, and God has authority
over Christ.
......

That's how it goes bro.....

So Jesus forgiving sins doesn't make him Yahweh......the authority to do that was given to him,he didn't just assume it....

italo: *fingers crossed*

Is "" I AM THAT I AM"" the same with ""I AM""

Let me school u on this.......

""I AM THAT I AM"" which also means "" I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE"" is what best,and closely explains the meaning of the tetragrammaton(YHWH)....

Try putting I am that I am in Jesus's statement....

""Before abraham was I am that I am""

Or

"" Before abraham was I will be what I will be""

Does it make sense??

Or what if Jesus said ""before abraham was I WILL BE"".....
How does that sound??

""I am "" is nobodies name mr.......

The pharisees were actually wondering how Jesus could know so much about abraham when he was just in his 30's.....

..And Jesus made them know he had existed as a spirit being in heaven b4 coming to the earth.....

Before abraham was "" I AM"" proves Jesus's pre-existence in heaven b4 coming to the earth,not that he is Yahweh........

If with all what frosbel has written to show u Jesus isnt Yahweh then I still don't knw what can help.....

How can ""I AM"" since that's d new meaning or an equivalent of Yahweh came to d earth and didn't know when the world would end,but rather said only 1 person(of which he isn't that person) knows d day and hour,??

Would Jesus not be suffering from multiple personality disorder to not know when the world would end if he is Yahweh??

Besides u haven't answered frosbels question if Yahweh can die??

Can Yahweh die??
If YES then Yahweh isn't GOD almighty...

If NO,then Jesus isn't Yahweh....

Chikena!!!!!!!........

Let the I AM expression not decieve u my bro......

We use that expression everyday,...that doesn't make us Yahweh does it??

OLAADEGBU: God's command says:

"Whosoever transgresses, and abides not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son" (2 John 9).

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which you have learned, and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple" (Rom.16:17-18 ).

If the Word of the Lord said it, and I believe it, that settles it for me.

What does d word of GOD say??

Does it ever talk about the holy trinity??

Imagine how"" holy"" is attached to a doctrine as false as the trinity......

Jesus is not Yahweh....shikena....

Ola agree and be blessed.....

The trinity has turned u into sometin else....

@ john 4:24 Jesus says"" God is a spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and truth........""


If Jesus was the Father(Yahweh) how could he have made this statement to Jews who indeed concured with the fact that God can never be seen.....The jews fully knew that only representatives of Yahweh could be seen and felt.....as for Yahweh no one can see Him and yet live.....

If Jesus was God he wuld never make such statement since he was flesh and all eyes could see him...........can spirits be seen?? Can God be seen??...Jesus is not Yahweh...

John 1:18 expansiates...

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
No one has ever seen God. God's only Son, the
one who is closest to the Father's heart, has
made him known......

Okpari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Besides just open one verse in d bible that calls the holy spirit a GOD or GOD....please show everybody.....

Because we really need the holy spirit to complete d formular...

ogoamaka99: @ Frosbel
Sorry, frosbel you are confused and you are writing to confuse others. What you are writing is an evidence that you are not a Christian as you have no relationship with the HOLY SPIRIT.. If not how can one who deny the HOLY SPIRIT claim to be a christian? Outside HOLY SPIRIT how can you know the BIBLE.
You may have been a christian but are now possessed with the spirit of error.So i advice you to go and read the following Scriptures- John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: [/b]but ye know him;[/b] for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you".
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the[b] Spirit of truth,[/b] which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, [b]he will guide[/b] you into all truth: for he shall [/b]not speak of himself; but whatsoever [b]he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Acts 8:29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away [/b]Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Acts 21:11 And when he was come unto us, he took Paul's girdle, and bound his own hands and feet, and said, [b][b]Thus saith the Holy Ghost, [/b]So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man that owneth this girdle, and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.
Please answer me, can you use HE for someone that is not a person.?Can someone not a person give instruction? Can someone not a person say something? Please go and repent and stop deceiving people.

Lol....

Please I want u to find a place to put the holy spirit in this ladder of headship...

1 corinthians 11:3....

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
However, I want you to realize that Christ has
authority over every man, a husband has
authority over his wife, and God has authority
over Christ.

.....

Please and please if the holy spirit is a person and part of a Godhead,fix Him in that headship arrangement......

obadiah777: Yeah Jesoul welcome back from the valley of the dry bones.

Lol.....

From the valley of hinnom....lol...

italo: Two questions to those who say Jesus is not God.

Whose name is 'I AM?'

Who said "before Abraham was, I AM?"

When did I AM become Gods name??

So anywhere or anytime people use the. Expression ""I AM"" then it means they are Yahweh too??

When in d world did the expression "" I am"" mean God or meant exclusively to mean Yahweh??

So if u go for an interview and an employer shuld ask:::: are u ITALO?? And u reply ::yes
"" I AM""......
I think that should make u Yahweh or God...


Can u please tell me the full meaning of the hebrew tetragrammaton??

Tell me.....

And I'll get back to u......

Ptolomeus: Not for me to answer him, but the bible ...

Exegesis: Matthew verses 16-19
16 But to whom shall I compare this generation? It is like children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
17 And they say: 'We played the flute, and you did not dance; we wailed, and you did not mourn.
18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil. 19 The Son of man (Jesus), eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

"The Lord Jesus drank wine" Luke 7:34

I think there is room for doubt: Jesus drank wine (and I did too much) and also was a glutton.

Lol.....

""They say"".........

Who were d persons saying Jesus was a glutton??

Hypocrites and haters and also critics of that time were the ones who falsely accused Jesus......

They were hypocrites who could see how holy and Good Jesus was but would still be arrogant to acknowledge it....

The trinity dogmata will always make its adherents think like children and like crazy scientists............


Olaadegbu and co. Are actually trying to convince us that GOD can die...

Then what makes Yahweh a.k.a Jesus according to some persons here differ from ZEUS and ARTHEMIS??.....

If Yahweh can die then why should I worship him....??

......

Sick dogma.....

The bible says no one has ever seen GOD(never)....no reason what so ever would warrant humans seeing GOD,because its impossible.....

But here we are hearing something different...

Crazy dogma indeed....

frosbel keep up with d good work.....

If Jesus came to do not his own will, then wasn't he lying??

The people na fraud.....

PAGAN 9JA:
yes jesus ate greedily. even before he was about to die, he was thinking of food:

https://www.turnbacktogod.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/the-last-supper-03.jpg

Lol...

Now I knw u got notin to say...

Jesus just ate and yet u say he ate greedily....


Where u the one who gave him d excess food to eat??